The living wage

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    Let me explain a few things to the knuckle dragger's.

    1.A living wage IS NOT minimum wage, and it is paid by the employer, not the government. It is fair wage for any area or family size in America, and sets the lowest wage paid, not the highest. An employer can reward workers for more work.

    A living wage gives a worker his living, and that after all is why we work. Other luxuries such as cars, etc. are above the living wage.

    2.When you have a living wage workers can buy more from the market. That means more production. That means more workers being hired.

    3.A living wage will reduce taxes. When workers come off social programs like unemployment and welfare, your taxes will go down on paying for social programs they were on, as the burden is spread around.

    4.The new workers taxes will lower the amount of taxes you have to pay.

    5.It is a myth to think that the cost of items will go up to cover living wages. Living wages are set according to the local area living expenses. With more items being sold, employers would have no reason to raise wages.

    6.A living wage will stop two people working in a household, and let one worker spend a 40 hour work week for his employer, giving him more time with his family.

    7.Crime will go down as more moms stay home, and society has less latch key children to deal with. ie. less drug use, pregnancy, break ins & crime as parents monitor children.

    8.Teenagers will not be in the workforce, rather home studying, hence raising America out of the low intellectual levels children face today.

    9.Households that chose to have both spouses working or one spouse holding down two or more jobs, will be penalized with higher taxes, perhaps 75% on the additional jobs. This is to cover the costs of an unemployed person they are keeping from working and increased problems for society. ie. crime children, pregnancies, etc.

    10.Workers can start employment with the basics they need to do the job in their area, shelter, food, clothes, utilities.

    http://www.livingwage.geog.psu.edu/
     
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    People live on minimum wage now so your argument is full of shit. Further it is NOT the Federal Governments business what an employer pays his employees. Might be a States business if the people agree and vote for it in an amendment to their State Constitution.
     
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    No it's not.

    No one "lives' On the minimum wage..

    They either get supplemental help from the government or have multiple wage earners in the household.

    We've got something like a 13 trillion dollar economy..with some 24% of that going to 2% of the people in this country.

    Lately companies have been booting employees..leaving the rest to pick up the slack and not paying the overtime..thanks to the rule changes by the Bush administration.

    That's theft.

    Additionally..the TARP basically covered the losses of the big risk takers. And they are at it again..paying themselves multimillion dollar bonuses.

    That's theft as well.

    Why is it conservatives reward this horrendous behavior...while punishing the poor?
     
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    Maybe the 'knuckle draggers" won't notice, but it appears to me to grant the government much more power. If that is indeed the case, then I would oppose such a proposal.
     
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    Let me explain something to the Liberal/Fascist/Communists:

    None of your nanny state meddling ideas have ever worked.
     
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    I know several people who live on minimum wage
     
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    HAHAHA!!!!

    Yeah, I laughed halfway through that.

    OP says more teens at home, and not at work, will lead to more students at home studying.
    OP says more stay at home moms will mean less crime, less unwanted pregnancy, etc.


    Hey, OP, ride through the ghetto tomorrow. Notice all the teens NOT working, and all the moms NOT working and all staying at home. Then notice the LOW crime in the ghetto, notice all the teens studying, and notice all the women NOT pregnant out of wedlock.

    Your theory is dead on arrival. Sorry.

    You're basically saying people should be entitled to get paid more than the market value for their labor.

    In other words "I wanna bigger paycheck!!!".

    Yeah, working for a living sucks doesn't it.
     
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    already tried in another thread.
    FAIL.
    Now, as I asked before, who gets to decide wage levels? BY government mandate?
    Who pays the additional cost?
    Does it apply to small business as well? Or do you propose exemptions? DO you think larger companies would stand for this?
    What would be your minimum wage? $15, $20 $30 per hour? Who pays? Where does the revenue come from after you waive you magic wand and this unfunded mandate becomes law?
    Look, this has no chance of even getting a mention in Congress.
    So why are you bothering to start ridiculous threads such as this.
    I have an idea. Start a business and without regard to your revenue stream I want you to pay all of your employees a minimum of $20 per hour. No questions asked. You DO IT!
    Then report back in two months after your business fails just like all other socialistic programs. FAIL!
     
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    You mean like ending slavery and banning child labor?
     
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