The Liberal Version of Civil Rights

7.Jeremy Tedesco was the lawyer who won that pro-America, pro-Constitution, decision at the Supreme Court.

Here, he speaks about it.






“…Jack Phillips won on the premise that government has no business targeting or punishing individuals because of their religious beliefs….”


“…government hostility toward religion has no place in our society….”




8. “Three Colorado bakeries were asked to create cakes opposing same sex marriage, they said they didn’t want to create them because they supported same-sex marriage, and the Colorado Civil Rights Commission, when they received complaints of discrimination, …said ‘you’re fully exonerated,’….
….yet Jack Philips is being forced by the government to promote same-sex marriage through his art….”



A shockingly biased attempt by the Liberal Colorado Civil Rights Commission, a mirror image of the Mueller-Comey-McCabe farrago.
 
Where in the Bible does it say gays should not marry?? No where.

This isn’t about what the Bible says about gay marriage, it’s about individual religions liberty.

Individual religious liberty was not taken away from the baker. His bakery is not a church. Why not honor FGM , while we honor and allow jewish sucking circumcision.

Well clearly the SCOTUS disagreed with you on that....so ......
 
7.Jeremy Tedesco was the lawyer who won that pro-America, pro-Constitution, decision at the Supreme Court.

Here, he speaks about it.






“…Jack Phillips won on the premise that government has no business targeting or punishing individuals because of their religious beliefs….”


“…government hostility toward religion has no place in our society….”




8. “Three Colorado bakeries were asked to create cakes opposing same sex marriage, they said they didn’t want to create them because they supported same-sex marriage, and the Colorado Civil Rights Commission, when they received complaints of discrimination, …said ‘you’re fully exonerated,’….

….yet Jack Philips is being forced by the government to promote same-sex marriage through his art….”


A shockingly biased attempt by the Liberal Colorado Civil Rights Commission, a mirror image of the Mueller-Comey-McCabe farrago.


Yet Mueller is a Republican and I don't think a liberal. When I think of a liberal I think of someone like Trump, thief , cheater and female assaulter.
 
Where in the Bible does it say gays should not marry?? No where.

This isn’t about what the Bible says about gay marriage, it’s about individual religions liberty.

Individual religious liberty was not taken away from the baker. His bakery is not a church. Why not honor FGM , while we allow jewish sucking circumcision.
I wonder if religious people could sue gay people for discriminating against their beliefs?
 
Where in the Bible does it say gays should not marry?? No where.
Oh please. It clearly speaks ill of homosexuality. Marriage or not.

Where?
leviticus and romans

First no one lives according the mosses law, so no stoning today, if we did 3/4 of the globe pop would be stoned and the rest with no eyes, or hands. Tel Aviv is the go to homosexual place so Jews do not even live under it.

Second of all:
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised.Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over' to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death,'> they not only continue to do these very things but also approve'> of those who practice them.

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Paul letters to Romans, now Paul suggested not even to marry unless one couldn't control their urges, IN OTHER words, only get married for sex.

So homosexuals have been around for centuries, do you know why it became legal, to get the benefits of marriage , SS, inheritance, health insurance, VA benefits, etc.
I have no problems with gay marriage. In fact, i completely support it.
But to say its not in the bible is a damn lie.

People who are not Christians love to tell people who are Christians how they should live out their faith. Kind of like members of the Elks telling Masons how to run their ceremonies.
 
Where in the Bible does it say gays should not marry?? No where.

This isn’t about what the Bible says about gay marriage, it’s about individual religions liberty.

Individual religious liberty was not taken away from the baker. His bakery is not a church. Why not honor FGM , while we honor and allow jewish sucking circumcision.

Well clearly the SCOTUS disagreed with you on that....so ......

why the Hindu religion believes in it, some Hindu's. Still we allow grown jewish men to suck an infants bleeding penis. Explain this to me?
 
Oh please. It clearly speaks ill of homosexuality. Marriage or not.

Where?
leviticus and romans

First no one lives according the mosses law, so no stoning today, if we did 3/4 of the globe pop would be stoned and the rest with no eyes, or hands. Tel Aviv is the go to homosexual place so Jews do not even live under it.

Second of all:
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised.Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over' to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death,'> they not only continue to do these very things but also approve'> of those who practice them.

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Paul letters to Romans, now Paul suggested not even to marry unless one couldn't control their urges, IN OTHER words, only get married for sex.

So homosexuals have been around for centuries, do you know why it became legal, to get the benefits of marriage , SS, inheritance, health insurance, VA benefits, etc.
I have no problems with gay marriage. In fact, i completely support it.
But to say its not in the bible is a damn lie.

People who are not Christians love to tell people who are Christians how they should live out their faith. Kind of like members of the Elks telling Masons how to run their ceremonies.

Was this baker not allowed to pray to his God, was he not allowed to go to a church of his choice, did he bake and décor a cake for a serial rapist and murderer, when was he made judge and jury of who he can serve and who he can't if he is the owner of a public business.

Religious rights end when it interferes with others rights. Soon this baker will not want to bake a cake for Muslims due to some unforeseen religious conscious he has.
 

First no one lives according the mosses law, so no stoning today, if we did 3/4 of the globe pop would be stoned and the rest with no eyes, or hands. Tel Aviv is the go to homosexual place so Jews do not even live under it.

Second of all:
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised.Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over' to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death,'> they not only continue to do these very things but also approve'> of those who practice them.

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Paul letters to Romans, now Paul suggested not even to marry unless one couldn't control their urges, IN OTHER words, only get married for sex.

So homosexuals have been around for centuries, do you know why it became legal, to get the benefits of marriage , SS, inheritance, health insurance, VA benefits, etc.
I have no problems with gay marriage. In fact, i completely support it.
But to say its not in the bible is a damn lie.

People who are not Christians love to tell people who are Christians how they should live out their faith. Kind of like members of the Elks telling Masons how to run their ceremonies.

Was this baker not allowed to pray to his God, was he not allowed to go to a church of his choice, did he bake and décor a cake for a serial rapist and murderer, when was he made judge and jury of who he can serve and who he can't if he is the owner of a public business.

Religious rights end when it interferes with others rights.
No one has a right to anothers property.
Maybe you need to figure out what "right" means :thup:
 
Yet Mueller is a Republican and I don't think a liberal. When I think of a liberal I think of someone like Trump, thief , cheater and female assaulter.

Sure, you and Mueller both...:rolleyes:

You "think"?
You don't THINK.....which is why you reach the conclusions you do.
But when you try, your mental weakness is overly persuaded by indoctrination rather than genuine independent, informed thought.

If you ever learn to truly think and put aside your self-interests in order to see the bigger picture your view will change. We'll all hold our breath....
 
No one has a right to anothers property.
Maybe you need to figure out what "right" means :thup:

Yet this is EXACTLY what a large percentage of modern Leftist believe.....Socialism and ultimately, Marxism then Communism.

Suggesting that no one has a right to their private property....only the State should have those.
 
Where in the Bible does it say gays should not marry?? No where.
Oh please. It clearly speaks ill of homosexuality. Marriage or not.

Where?
To name a few;
Genesis 19
Leviticus 18 & 20
Romans 1:18-32
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
1 Timothy 1:8-10


Still stoning folks to death over blasphemy?
Still only eating animals with a split hoof?
Still making animal sacrifices at the temple?
 
No one has a right to anothers property.
Maybe you need to figure out what "right" means :thup:

Yet this is EXACTLY what a large percentage of modern Leftist believe.....Socialism and ultimately, Marxism then Communism.

Suggesting that no one has a right to their private property....only the State should have those.
Yeah, you believe that shit? Try not paying real estate taxes, and they have been around longer than Marxism or Marx himself..
 
Where in the Bible does it say gays should not marry?? No where.
Oh please. It clearly speaks ill of homosexuality. Marriage or not.

Where?
To name a few;
Genesis 19
Leviticus 18 & 20
Romans 1:18-32
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
1 Timothy 1:8-10



Christians do not go by the OT and law of Moses, and 1 Cor:
neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Read EZE 16 to find out why God destroyed S & G.

Tim is quoting Cor: but anyway here goes:
1 Timothy 1:8-10 New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
We know that the law is good, provided that one uses it as law,9 with the understanding that law is meant not for a righteous person but for the lawless and unruly, the godless and sinful, the unholy and profane, those who kill their fathers or mothers, murderers, 10 the unchaste, sodomites, kidnappers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is opposed to sound teaching,

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The Trump Admin has become kidnappers now.
 
Don’t look at me, I always default to the individual liberty side of an argument.


Of course, that would be properly termed 'the American side.'

None of these favor the individual over the collective: Fascism, Socialism, Communism, Liberalism, Progressivism or Nazism.

I know you are anti civil rights, well too bad. civil rights are over religious rights when they intrude over civil rights.
 
Where in the Bible does it say gays should not marry?? No where.

This isn’t about what the Bible says about gay marriage, it’s about individual religions liberty.

Individual religious liberty was not taken away from the baker. His bakery is not a church. Why not honor FGM , while we allow jewish sucking circumcision.
I wonder if religious people could sue gay people for discriminating against their beliefs?


Like, say....for not coming to church????



That's funny, Marky
 
Where in the Bible does it say gays should not marry?? No where.
Oh please. It clearly speaks ill of homosexuality. Marriage or not.

Where?
leviticus and romans

Of course Romans, written by Paul, who inserted his own beliefs in place of what Jesus had said so many times.
Go ahead and trash moses too :rolleyes:

You mean the same Moses who hated handicapped people?

Leviticus 21
16 The Lord said to Moses, 17 “Say to Aaron: ‘For the generations to come none of your descendants who has a defect may come near to offer the food of his God. 18 No man who has any defect may come near: no man who is blind disfigured or deformed; 19 no man with a crippled foot or hand, 20 or who is a hunchback or a dwarf, or who has any eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles. 21 No descendant of Aaron the priest who has any defect is to come near to present the food offerings to the Lord. He has a defect; he must not come near to offer the food of his God. as well as the holy food; 23 yet because of his defect, he must not go near the curtain or approach the altar, and so desecrate my sanctuary. I am the Lord, who makes them holy.

24 So Moses told this to Aaron and his sons and to all the Israelites.

Or the one who hated crabs and shrimp and just about every other kind of sea food?

Leviticus 11
9 “‘Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the streams you may eat any that have fins and scales. 10 But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and scales—whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water—you are to regard as unclean. 11 And since you are to regard them as unclean, you must not eat their meat; you must regard their carcasses as unclean. 12 Anything living in the water that does not have fins and scales is to be regarded as unclean by you.

Or, since Melania was married before, the Moses who said Trump and Melania should both be killed?

Leviticus 20
10 “‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.

That Moses guy was a real hoot.
 
Where in the Bible does it say gays should not marry?? No where.

This isn’t about what the Bible says about gay marriage, it’s about individual religions liberty.

Individual religious liberty was not taken away from the baker. His bakery is not a church. Why not honor FGM , while we allow jewish sucking circumcision.
I wonder if religious people could sue gay people for discriminating against their beliefs?


Like, say....for not coming to church????



That's funny, Marky
Gay and lesbians are kicked out of churches, yes the religious assholes like to hate folks base on what they do. Unless you are an adulterer, robber, murder, sneak thief, child molester, etc, etc.
 
Oh please. It clearly speaks ill of homosexuality. Marriage or not.

Where?
leviticus and romans

First no one lives according the mosses law, so no stoning today, if we did 3/4 of the globe pop would be stoned and the rest with no eyes, or hands. Tel Aviv is the go to homosexual place so Jews do not even live under it.

Second of all:
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised.Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over' to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death,'> they not only continue to do these very things but also approve'> of those who practice them.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Paul letters to Romans, now Paul suggested not even to marry unless one couldn't control their urges, IN OTHER words, only get married for sex.

So homosexuals have been around for centuries, do you know why it became legal, to get the benefits of marriage , SS, inheritance, health insurance, VA benefits, etc.
I have no problems with gay marriage. In fact, i completely support it.
But to say its not in the bible is a damn lie.

People who are not Christians love to tell people who are Christians how they should live out their faith. Kind of like members of the Elks telling Masons how to run their ceremonies.


Tocqueville did his best to educate you two centuries ago.....

Let's see if it works now:



Although Christianity in its many varieties was the religion of the original colonies, Christianity does not preach operational dominance over the body politic in America.

Tocqueville compared this aspect to Islam: “Mohammed professed to derive from Heaven, and has inserted in the Koran, not only religious doctrines, but political maxims, civil and criminal laws, and theories of science. The Gospel, on the contrary, speaks only of the general relations of men to God and to each other, beyond which it inculcates and imposes no point of faith. This alone, besides a thousand other reasons, would suffice to prove that the former of these religions will never long predominate in a cultivated and democratic age, while the latter is destined to retain its sway at these as at all other periods.”
Tocqueville, “Democracy in America,” vol.2, p. 23.
 

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