The Four Pillars of Progressivism

The last Democrat President to start or escalate a war was Johnson in Viet Nam (started under Eisenhauer), but unlike Democrats, every Republican since Nixon has started a war or conflict. Nixon - Cambodia, Reagan - Granada, Bush I - Gulf War, Bush II - Afghanistan and Iraq.

To suggest that Democrats are aggressively militaristic is to be wilfully blind. Trump ran on a policy of building up the military. History tells us that every Republican military build-up leads to another Republican war. Gotta play with all the new toys after all.

Also Bush I: Panama, a blatantly illegal action. And Reagan funded contras and propped up Bin Laden.

Jimmy Carter notes that his administration never dropped a bomb, never fired a shot. That's not true of any other POTUS since Herbert Hoover. That's part of why the war nuts try to portray him as a "failure" --- he didn't give 'em a war to play with.


did you miss the gas lines and the failed hostage rescue?
I really miss our failed Manhattan Project for fusion (an energy with a future).


it ended WW2 saving thousands of American and Japanese lives. BTW, Truman was a democrat.
The point is, we had a Manhattan project for a weapon of mass destruction and to create the Hellish conditions of Warfare on Earth, but no Manhattan project for fusion (an energy with a future) nor even a Mission to Mars.
 
From near as I can tell, there are 4 pillars of Progressivism which is their foundation. All four of these pillars is an assault on the Constitution. Why? Because the Constitution is a document that attempted to create a government that is limited. In other words, those in government are viewed as not having any superior intellectual capacity or righteous character than the average citizen. Such outrageous thinking must be destroyed so that every aspect in our lives is overseen and regulated by government who are the master race. Why without Big Brother monitoring our every move, we would all be dying in the streets as we render the planet inhabitable environmentally.

1. Illegal Immigration. Illegal immigration is the first pillar. It carries with it the notion that borders are not needed. We hear many Progs today say as much. So if there are no borders, then there are no sovereign nations. If there are no sovereign nations, then the Republic becomes obsolete, along with its documents such as the Constitution. Then an all powerful world government can be set up with a more "enlightened" Constitution that will be offered.

2. Massive debt. Massive debt will eventually destroy the Republic. It is not a matter of if, but when. No nation can continue trillion dollar deficits indefinitely. How they got this far is nothing short of a miracle. And as the Republic folds, again, so do it's documents.

3. Assault on Christianity. Many think that morality and government are separate, but in reality, all laws represent a moral code. Moreover, only a moral society can be trusted with freedom. As Ben Franklin once said, "In these sentiments, sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its faults, if they are such; because I think that a General government necessary for us, and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered; and I believe further that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as toned despotic government, being incapable of any other." If society loses its moral soul and becomes a nation of convicts, then a warden is required to maintain order. Ripping morality out of schools and the rest of society is key to their cause. It's like I've always said, prison is a Prog utopia. Everyone has equal housing, dress, food, education, and health care and all of it is free. Not only that, these are "gun free zones" and every day is a gay pride day.

4. Centralized all powerful government. The last pillar upon which Progressivism rests is an all powerful centralized government. The only time this is not embraced is when it infringes upon one of the other pillars. For you see Progs today run around chanting state rights when it comes to illegal drug legalization or moving illegals around from sanctuary city to sanctuary city. For example, refeer use is a federal crime, as is illegal immigration. Progs are simply openly defying these rules of law as states like Colorado legalize the use of reefer or cities openly declare themselves a refuge for illegals. However, when it comes to any other issue, state rights go bye, bye. Instead, with Obama in office writing EO's that violate federal law on such things as immigration, then all of a sudden the federal government becomes the ultimate authority again. Then when states like Arizona try and stand up to enforce immigration laws on the books, they get sued by Obama and company and forced to comply with the law,. We have now become a nation of men, not laws, which further degrades the Constitution as a meaningless document to be reinterpreted awayor simply ignored by Progs to the point where no one even refers to it anymore.

Zero for four! You don't have a clue what Progressivism is about!

Perhaps you should stop listening to performance artists, or at least stop taking what they say seriously....

Why don't you tell me then? What is a "true" Progressive?
 
The Four Pillars of Progressivism


1.) Tax.

2.) Spend.

3.) Borrow.

4.) Buy votes.

"If it moves, tax it, if it keeps moving, regulate it, if it stops moving, subsidize it."

-Ronald Reagan
 
The Four Pillars of Progressivism


1.) Tax.

2.) Spend.

3.) Borrow.

4.) Buy votes.

Notice how Democrats tax BEFORE they spend. That's how you pay for programs. Republicans CUT TAXES before they spend, leading to borrowing. Democrats dont' increase the deficit - that would be Republicans - Clinton balanced the budget, as did Carter. When Obama took over, the government was running a HUGE deficit for the wars and because of the stock market crash, but by January of this year, the national debt was coming down, meaning the deficit was pretty much wiped out.

Democrats aren't buying votes, they're buying better schools, roads, infrastructure, and providing medical care for the poor. They're doing what first world nations are SUPPOSED to do which is to provide services for their citizens. Republicans only help corporations at the expense of citizens.

Given Trump's history of bankruptcy, I expect more of the same from him. He already can't tell that the US has a trade surpluss with Canada, and he's attacking Canada on trade. Since we've already gone two rounds on softwood lumber, both of which the US lost, let's make it three in a row, shall we?
 
The Four Pillars of Progressivism


1.) Tax.

2.) Spend.

3.) Borrow.

4.) Buy votes.

Notice how Democrats tax BEFORE they spend. That's how you pay for programs. Republicans CUT TAXES before they spend, leading to borrowing. Democrats dont' increase the deficit - that would be Republicans - Clinton balanced the budget, as did Carter. When Obama took over, the government was running a HUGE deficit for the wars and because of the stock market crash, but by January of this year, the national debt was coming down, meaning the deficit was pretty much wiped out.

Democrats aren't buying votes, they're buying better schools, roads, infrastructure, and providing medical care for the poor. They're doing what first world nations are SUPPOSED to do which is to provide services for their citizens. Republicans only help corporations at the expense of citizens.

Given Trump's history of bankruptcy, I expect more of the same from him. He already can't tell that the US has a trade surpluss with Canada, and he's attacking Canada on trade. Since we've already gone two rounds on softwood lumber, both of which the US lost, let's make it three in a row, shall we?

Wait...wut? Congress has run a trillion dollar deficit for some time. Now if they only spent money they brought in I can understand wanting to increase taxes, but they will spend the same regardless of what they bring in. That's why it makes no sense to me increasing taxes. For what exactly? Is $20 trillion to high of a debt? They spend money like it's not with half wits like Sanders saying people need "free college", so it would appear that it is all monopoly money anyway. It's like Dick Cheney said, "Deficits no longer matter" and every Dim seems to follow Dick Cheney's lead on debt.
 
From near as I can tell, there are 4 pillars of Progressivism which is their foundation. All four of these pillars is an assault on the Constitution. Why? Because the Constitution is a document that attempted to create a government that is limited. In other words, those in government are viewed as not having any superior intellectual capacity or righteous character than the average citizen. Such outrageous thinking must be destroyed so that every aspect in our lives is overseen and regulated by government who are the master race. Why without Big Brother monitoring our every move, we would all be dying in the streets as we render the planet inhabitable environmentally.

1. Illegal Immigration. Illegal immigration is the first pillar. It carries with it the notion that borders are not needed. We hear many Progs today say as much. So if there are no borders, then there are no sovereign nations. If there are no sovereign nations, then the Republic becomes obsolete, along with its documents such as the Constitution. Then an all powerful world government can be set up with a more "enlightened" Constitution that will be offered.

2. Massive debt. Massive debt will eventually destroy the Republic. It is not a matter of if, but when. No nation can continue trillion dollar deficits indefinitely. How they got this far is nothing short of a miracle. And as the Republic folds, again, so do it's documents.

3. Assault on Christianity. Many think that morality and government are separate, but in reality, all laws represent a moral code. Moreover, only a moral society can be trusted with freedom. As Ben Franklin once said, "In these sentiments, sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its faults, if they are such; because I think that a General government necessary for us, and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered; and I believe further that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as toned despotic government, being incapable of any other." If society loses its moral soul and becomes a nation of convicts, then a warden is required to maintain order. Ripping morality out of schools and the rest of society is key to their cause. It's like I've always said, prison is a Prog utopia. Everyone has equal housing, dress, food, education, and health care and all of it is free. Not only that, these are "gun free zones" and every day is a gay pride day.

4. Centralized all powerful government. The last pillar upon which Progressivism rests is an all powerful centralized government. The only time this is not embraced is when it infringes upon one of the other pillars. For you see Progs today run around chanting state rights when it comes to illegal drug legalization or moving illegals around from sanctuary city to sanctuary city. For example, refeer use is a federal crime, as is illegal immigration. Progs are simply openly defying these rules of law as states like Colorado legalize the use of reefer or cities openly declare themselves a refuge for illegals. However, when it comes to any other issue, state rights go bye, bye. Instead, with Obama in office writing EO's that violate federal law on such things as immigration, then all of a sudden the federal government becomes the ultimate authority again. Then when states like Arizona try and stand up to enforce immigration laws on the books, they get sued by Obama and company and forced to comply with the law,. We have now become a nation of men, not laws, which further degrades the Constitution as a meaningless document to be reinterpreted awayor simply ignored by Progs to the point where no one even refers to it anymore.

Zero for four! You don't have a clue what Progressivism is about!

Perhaps you should stop listening to performance artists, or at least stop taking what they say seriously....

Why don't you tell me then? What is a "true" Progressive?

I left you a whole page-long link on it back in 182. You should maybe break down and read it.
 
The 17th Amendment was the biggest coup d'etat for the progressive movement. Repeal it, and you may slow the inevitable advancement of liberalism and an ever bigger central government.

The 17th Amendment happened because people were tired of the corrupt buffoons that the state legislatures kept sending to washington.

We were quite capable of selecting our own corrupt buffoons.

The Founding Fathers would disagree. They did not want a direct democracy, rather, they wanted a mix.

This is why the House was directly elected by the people and why those in the Senate were selected by state governments.

Just see how the Founding Fathers valued direct democracy verses representation. Those in the House were only given 2 years to serve and those in the Senate were given 6 years to serve. In addition, there are only 2 Senators per state verses a myriad in the House. So I ask you, how much confidence did the Founding Fathers have with direct voting from the people to elect suitable candidates vs. those in state government? Obviously they trusted the states to pick better representatives.

Of course, Progs would scoff at this and refer to the US government in the same breath as a democracy. Well guess what, the US is a Republic, not a democracy. The Founding Fathers knew better than to create a direct democracy.
Every Media Mouthpiece for the 1% Can Go Eat a Knuckle Sandwich

You political bullies want us to worship the Constitution the way Fundamentalists worship the Bible or Koran. You want us to take the words of the Federalists as infallible Gospel inspired by God. The Founding Fodder, lawyers for the 1% working behind closed doors, established a theocracy with the political class and its owners as imams Real men make their own laws and spit at your insulting accusations about "mob rule, two wolves and a sheep," and all those talking points preached by conceited blowhards.

I grow weary of Progs trashing the Founding Fathers because of issues like slavery and then blaming such things as Christianity.

Well guess what, these Christians were divided and Christians ultimately took up arms to destroy slavery in the US, so stuff it. Can you imagine half the Islamic world rising up to end mistreatment of women and treating women as second class citizens under the Koran? I can't.

Just say that you have no respect for the Constitution or the Founding Fathers. Be an honest Prog for a change.

Regardless of your imaginarium capacity, Christians were on both sides of Slavery. Countless ministers praised and rationalized it in defense, countless others railed against it, right back to Bartholomé de las Casas. Cromwell sent captured (pagan) Irish to the West Indies in slavery to make "Christians" out of them. And when they looked to the Holey Babble for a pretext to justify it --- they didn't have far to look. Ex. 21:2-6 and 22:1-3. Deut. 15:12-18. Leviticus 25:44-46. Etc etc etc.

Whatever happened to keep Slavery around and whatever happened to abolish it, neither was an effect of Christianism. It was an effect of ethics. It was a matter of finally doing the right thing instead of doing the profitable thing. Religion, that could be played either way, and was. And still is.
 
The last Democrat President to start or escalate a war was Johnson in Viet Nam (started under Eisenhauer), but unlike Democrats, every Republican since Nixon has started a war or conflict. Nixon - Cambodia, Reagan - Granada, Bush I - Gulf War, Bush II - Afghanistan and Iraq.

To suggest that Democrats are aggressively militaristic is to be wilfully blind. Trump ran on a policy of building up the military. History tells us that every Republican military build-up leads to another Republican war. Gotta play with all the new toys after all.

Also Bush I: Panama, a blatantly illegal action. And Reagan funded contras and propped up Bin Laden.

Jimmy Carter notes that his administration never dropped a bomb, never fired a shot. That's not true of any other POTUS since Herbert Hoover. That's part of why the war nuts try to portray him as a "failure" --- he didn't give 'em a war to play with.


did you miss the gas lines and the failed hostage rescue?
Their Primary Duty Supersedes Presidential Illusions

The Iranian teenage mob occupied the embassy before that and left after a day, so Carter said it was just Freedom of Speech and proved that the Nazislamis were "democratic."

The Marines were cowards for not mowing that mob down each time. That's why the symbol of their surrender was a yellow ribbon.
 
On a side note - After 8 years of progressivism in the WH, 8 years of progressive leadership in the Senate, and 4 years of Pelosi leadership in the House - income inequality/disparity, one of Holy Grails of the movement - decreased considerably! j/k no, it didn't.

Kennedys = Bushes

That was by design. The born-rich leaders on both fake sides want to destroy the middle class, the Right from Wall Street down and the Left from the ghetto up. The Right secretly believes, "I've got mine, and I'm not going to let you get yours," while the Left preaches, "I've got mine, and I'm going to give yours away."

Our received political ideas remind me of a cartoon about a medieval battle where the two sides' flags were exactly the same. But if you looked at the stick-figure emblem from right to left, it was a duck; from left to right, it was a rabbit.

I wish you idiots on the right would stop trying to tell those on the left what WE believe, because none of you have the first clue. Most of you don't know what the Republican platform actually promotes or does not promote, how can you possible know what others are thinking?

Instead, you cover your own feelings of insecurity and ignorance by pretending you know ALL, and completely ignoring the utter disaster that has been Republican economic policies, and Republican foreign policy - stock market crashes and endless wars is no way to run a prosperous country.

And blaming the poor is getting so old. They're not the ones in control. They're not the ones getting richer every single year.
begging the question is the only way, the right wing can be right, twice a day.
Nine Clowns With Gavels and Gowns

Marbury v. Madison begged the question. SCROTUS interpreted the Constitution as giving it the right to interpret the Constitution.


yes, interpret, not rewrite.
The "Rule of Law" Is the Rule of Lawyers

The power to interpret is the power to destroy.
 
On a side note - After 8 years of progressivism in the WH, 8 years of progressive leadership in the Senate, and 4 years of Pelosi leadership in the House - income inequality/disparity, one of Holy Grails of the movement - decreased considerably! j/k no, it didn't.

Kennedys = Bushes

That was by design. The born-rich leaders on both fake sides want to destroy the middle class, the Right from Wall Street down and the Left from the ghetto up. The Right secretly believes, "I've got mine, and I'm not going to let you get yours," while the Left preaches, "I've got mine, and I'm going to give yours away."

Our received political ideas remind me of a cartoon about a medieval battle where the two sides' flags were exactly the same. But if you looked at the stick-figure emblem from right to left, it was a duck; from left to right, it was a rabbit.

I wish you idiots on the right would stop trying to tell those on the left what WE believe, because none of you have the first clue. Most of you don't know what the Republican platform actually promotes or does not promote, how can you possible know what others are thinking?

Instead, you cover your own feelings of insecurity and ignorance by pretending you know ALL, and completely ignoring the utter disaster that has been Republican economic policies, and Republican foreign policy - stock market crashes and endless wars is no way to run a prosperous country.

And blaming the poor is getting so old. They're not the ones in control. They're not the ones getting richer every single year.
begging the question is the only way, the right wing can be right, twice a day.
Nine Clowns With Gavels and Gowns

Marbury v. Madison begged the question. SCROTUS interpreted the Constitution as giving it the right to interpret the Constitution.
Why shouldn't the Supreme Court adjudicate our supreme law of the land?

The legislature only legislates.
The Supreme Court Thinks It Is the Supreme Being

Judges can't judge laws; that would make them Founding Fathers. They can only judge whether a particular case fits the law passed by the legislature or by referendum.
 
From near as I can tell, there are 4 pillars of Progressivism which is their foundation. All four of these pillars is an assault on the Constitution. Why? Because the Constitution is a document that attempted to create a government that is limited. In other words, those in government are viewed as not having any superior intellectual capacity or righteous character than the average citizen. Such outrageous thinking must be destroyed so that every aspect in our lives is overseen and regulated by government who are the master race. Why without Big Brother monitoring our every move, we would all be dying in the streets as we render the planet inhabitable environmentally.

1. Illegal Immigration. Illegal immigration is the first pillar. It carries with it the notion that borders are not needed. We hear many Progs today say as much. So if there are no borders, then there are no sovereign nations. If there are no sovereign nations, then the Republic becomes obsolete, along with its documents such as the Constitution. Then an all powerful world government can be set up with a more "enlightened" Constitution that will be offered.

2. Massive debt. Massive debt will eventually destroy the Republic. It is not a matter of if, but when. No nation can continue trillion dollar deficits indefinitely. How they got this far is nothing short of a miracle. And as the Republic folds, again, so do it's documents.

3. Assault on Christianity. Many think that morality and government are separate, but in reality, all laws represent a moral code. Moreover, only a moral society can be trusted with freedom. As Ben Franklin once said, "In these sentiments, sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its faults, if they are such; because I think that a General government necessary for us, and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered; and I believe further that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as toned despotic government, being incapable of any other." If society loses its moral soul and becomes a nation of convicts, then a warden is required to maintain order. Ripping morality out of schools and the rest of society is key to their cause. It's like I've always said, prison is a Prog utopia. Everyone has equal housing, dress, food, education, and health care and all of it is free. Not only that, these are "gun free zones" and every day is a gay pride day.

4. Centralized all powerful government. The last pillar upon which Progressivism rests is an all powerful centralized government. The only time this is not embraced is when it infringes upon one of the other pillars. For you see Progs today run around chanting state rights when it comes to illegal drug legalization or moving illegals around from sanctuary city to sanctuary city. For example, refeer use is a federal crime, as is illegal immigration. Progs are simply openly defying these rules of law as states like Colorado legalize the use of reefer or cities openly declare themselves a refuge for illegals. However, when it comes to any other issue, state rights go bye, bye. Instead, with Obama in office writing EO's that violate federal law on such things as immigration, then all of a sudden the federal government becomes the ultimate authority again. Then when states like Arizona try and stand up to enforce immigration laws on the books, they get sued by Obama and company and forced to comply with the law,. We have now become a nation of men, not laws, which further degrades the Constitution as a meaningless document to be reinterpreted awayor simply ignored by Progs to the point where no one even refers to it anymore.

Zero for four! You don't have a clue what Progressivism is about!

Perhaps you should stop listening to performance artists, or at least stop taking what they say seriously....

Why don't you tell me then? What is a "true" Progressive?

In my opinion, a Progressive is a person who believes:

1. "We the People of the United States.....do ordain and establish...."

This means that the Government is based on the People, it is NOT ordained by God. It is therefore strictly secular.

2. "....promote the general Welfare...."

It is the responsibility of the government to instantiate programs and policies for the benefit of the majority of the people, while not violating the rights of minorities. This means that as our society and economy has evolved, especially since industrialization, it's the responsibility of the government to evolve so as to adapt to the needs of the people.

3. Anything that does not violate the rights of another should be legal. (From the Rights of Man, but I can't seem to locate the exact quote).

4. There is no inalienable or Constitutional right to do business. It's the government's responsibility to set standards for business to insure that business does not violate people's rights.

5. "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

This means that the government will not give preference to the wealthy and/or powerful. It also means that the government has a responsibility to ensure that no one is persecuted due to race, religion, ethnic origin, sexual orientation...etc...

The 'pursuit of happiness' is limited if that pursuit violates the rights of another.

6. There is no mention of 'Capitalism' in the Constitution. It IS NOT a founding principal, but may be inferred as a limited right, to a point, as it would be an exercise of liberty.

7. The Rights as per the U.S. Constitution and Declaration of independence should be extended to all people, not just Americans.

8. The principals of the "Rights of Man" should be respected as a secondary reference for human rights.

9. The government exists to serve all the people.

10. The economy exists due to the economic environment created by the dominant military force. The government should be that dominant military force and should set economic policies and initiate programs according the to principals listed above.

11. All other principals, powers and responsibilities of the government per the U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence should be adhered to.

Any other questions?
 
1. "We the People of the United States.....do ordain and establish...."

This means that the Government is based on the People, it is NOT ordained by God. It is therefore strictly secular.



5. "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

This means that the government will not give preference to the wealthy and/or powerful. It also means that the government has a responsibility to ensure that no one is persecuted due to race, religion, ethnic origin, sexual orientation...etc...

The 'pursuit of happiness' is limited if that pursuit violates the rights of another.

Honestly, do you ever hear yourself talk? How can you say that God did not ordain a country, on the one hand, and then say that our Creator has endowed us with certain unalienable rights
 
1. "We the People of the United States.....do ordain and establish...."

This means that the Government is based on the People, it is NOT ordained by God. It is therefore strictly secular.



5. "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

This means that the government will not give preference to the wealthy and/or powerful. It also means that the government has a responsibility to ensure that no one is persecuted due to race, religion, ethnic origin, sexual orientation...etc...

The 'pursuit of happiness' is limited if that pursuit violates the rights of another.

Honestly, do you ever hear yourself talk? How can you say that God did not ordain a country, on the one hand, and then say that our Creator has endowed us with certain unalienable rights

The Declaration of Independence is a statement of principals that justifying our breaking away for the British Empire. The U.S. Constitution is a charter that forms our Government. The Government is ordained by the people, per the Constitution. It is VERY clear about that. It is not ordained by God.

It is not inconsistent to believe that God has endowed us all with inalienable rights, but that the Government is ordained by the people.

Try not to scramble the purpose and meaning of these documents. The U.S. Constitution is the law of the land. The Declaration of Independence is a secondary reference.
 
From near as I can tell, there are 4 pillars of Progressivism which is their foundation. All four of these pillars is an assault on the Constitution. Why? Because the Constitution is a document that attempted to create a government that is limited. In other words, those in government are viewed as not having any superior intellectual capacity or righteous character than the average citizen. Such outrageous thinking must be destroyed so that every aspect in our lives is overseen and regulated by government who are the master race. Why without Big Brother monitoring our every move, we would all be dying in the streets as we render the planet inhabitable environmentally.

1. Illegal Immigration. Illegal immigration is the first pillar. It carries with it the notion that borders are not needed. We hear many Progs today say as much. So if there are no borders, then there are no sovereign nations. If there are no sovereign nations, then the Republic becomes obsolete, along with its documents such as the Constitution. Then an all powerful world government can be set up with a more "enlightened" Constitution that will be offered.

2. Massive debt. Massive debt will eventually destroy the Republic. It is not a matter of if, but when. No nation can continue trillion dollar deficits indefinitely. How they got this far is nothing short of a miracle. And as the Republic folds, again, so do it's documents.

3. Assault on Christianity. Many think that morality and government are separate, but in reality, all laws represent a moral code. Moreover, only a moral society can be trusted with freedom. As Ben Franklin once said, "In these sentiments, sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its faults, if they are such; because I think that a General government necessary for us, and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered; and I believe further that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as toned despotic government, being incapable of any other." If society loses its moral soul and becomes a nation of convicts, then a warden is required to maintain order. Ripping morality out of schools and the rest of society is key to their cause. It's like I've always said, prison is a Prog utopia. Everyone has equal housing, dress, food, education, and health care and all of it is free. Not only that, these are "gun free zones" and every day is a gay pride day.

4. Centralized all powerful government. The last pillar upon which Progressivism rests is an all powerful centralized government. The only time this is not embraced is when it infringes upon one of the other pillars. For you see Progs today run around chanting state rights when it comes to illegal drug legalization or moving illegals around from sanctuary city to sanctuary city. For example, refeer use is a federal crime, as is illegal immigration. Progs are simply openly defying these rules of law as states like Colorado legalize the use of reefer or cities openly declare themselves a refuge for illegals. However, when it comes to any other issue, state rights go bye, bye. Instead, with Obama in office writing EO's that violate federal law on such things as immigration, then all of a sudden the federal government becomes the ultimate authority again. Then when states like Arizona try and stand up to enforce immigration laws on the books, they get sued by Obama and company and forced to comply with the law,. We have now become a nation of men, not laws, which further degrades the Constitution as a meaningless document to be reinterpreted awayor simply ignored by Progs to the point where no one even refers to it anymore.
You do not have a clue what progressives believe.
Here are my "pillars." Let the heads explode!!

. All lives matter. No one should have insufficient shelter, food, water or health care
2. All people and should enjoy equal protection under the law. No one should suffer from discrimination, humiliation or violence because of their race, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation, sexual identity, or disability

3. The earth matters. It is the only one we have and the environment must be protected for our posterity. Climate change is not a hoax

4. Income and wealth disparity must be revered through a fair, progressive tax structure. A nation that is on the way to a plutocracy and oligarchy will not survive for long

5. No one should have to work more than one full time job to pay the bills, while CEOs make obscene amounts of money that cannot be justified.
6. War and the use of force in the world must be a very last resort, used only when diplomacy fails and the United States is facing a real and grave danger.

7. This is a nation built of immigrants . People seeking to come to this country for a better life economically, or to flee strife in their home land should not be shunned or feared. Entire groups should not be marginalized and rejected because of the actions and fanaticism of some.

8. Trade with other nations should be fair, not free, meaning that the consideration of protecting the environment, preventing the exploitation of workers, and consumer safety should be placed over profit and trade deficits

9. Boarders should be secured using appropriate technology and manpower, not half baked ideas that appeal to a political base and are not practical or cost effective
10. Criminal Justice must be reformed to reduce the prison population of non violent offenders, and to address the issue of racial disparity in arrests, prosecution and sentencing. The death penalty must be abolished . Drug crimes must be treated as a public health problem instead of a criminal matter

11. The federal government has the responsibility for actively protecting the health and welfare of all citizens , both from physical harm, and discrimination. The tenth amendment must be understood in the context of the entire constitution, especially the bill of rights and the 14th amendment. States may not violate the US constitution, and voters do not get to decide matters of civil rights.

12.Guns must be kept out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people. High capacity assault weapons must be kept out of the hands of everyone not in the military or law enforcement. There must be a national and uniform policy.

13. It is time for the Equal Rights Amendment protecting women from discrimination is ratified, and the passage of the Employment non discrimination, as well as laws addressing discrimination in housing and places of public accommodation for LGBT people.

14. Religious freedom does not mean the ability to use religion as a weapon to discriminate against others. The first amendment applies equally to all, not just conservative Christians who have weaponized religion.

15. Public education must remain free and well funded and without religious beliefs influencing it. Real science, not junk science must be taught. Real history, not whitewashed revisionist history must also be taught. +Meaningful sex education, not abstinence only is a must. Children are the future

16. Abortion should be rare, but available when necessary. That can be achieved, not by denying women the right to choose but by allowing contraception to be readily available, and by supporting other policies and programs that can prevent unwanted pregnancies and provide supports to women to chose to carry an unexpected pregnancy to term.

17. Financial and insurance institutions must be well regulated in order to prevent another near collapse of the global economy as almost happened in 2008 as the result of greed, and recklessness of the banks.

18. Consumers must be protected from physical harm and financial exploitation by banks, insurers and mortgage companies

19. Health insurers should be put out of business. We need a single payer system

20. Big Pharma- that charges ridiculous prices and sometimes withholds lifesaving drugs from the market because they are not profitable must be rained in.
Enjoy!!
 
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From near as I can tell, there are 4 pillars of Progressivism which is their foundation. All four of these pillars is an assault on the Constitution. Why? Because the Constitution is a document that attempted to create a government that is limited. In other words, those in government are viewed as not having any superior intellectual capacity or righteous character than the average citizen. Such outrageous thinking must be destroyed so that every aspect in our lives is overseen and regulated by government who are the master race. Why without Big Brother monitoring our every move, we would all be dying in the streets as we render the planet inhabitable environmentally.

1. Illegal Immigration. Illegal immigration is the first pillar. It carries with it the notion that borders are not needed. We hear many Progs today say as much. So if there are no borders, then there are no sovereign nations. If there are no sovereign nations, then the Republic becomes obsolete, along with its documents such as the Constitution. Then an all powerful world government can be set up with a more "enlightened" Constitution that will be offered.

2. Massive debt. Massive debt will eventually destroy the Republic. It is not a matter of if, but when. No nation can continue trillion dollar deficits indefinitely. How they got this far is nothing short of a miracle. And as the Republic folds, again, so do it's documents.

3. Assault on Christianity. Many think that morality and government are separate, but in reality, all laws represent a moral code. Moreover, only a moral society can be trusted with freedom. As Ben Franklin once said, "In these sentiments, sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its faults, if they are such; because I think that a General government necessary for us, and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered; and I believe further that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as toned despotic government, being incapable of any other." If society loses its moral soul and becomes a nation of convicts, then a warden is required to maintain order. Ripping morality out of schools and the rest of society is key to their cause. It's like I've always said, prison is a Prog utopia. Everyone has equal housing, dress, food, education, and health care and all of it is free. Not only that, these are "gun free zones" and every day is a gay pride day.

4. Centralized all powerful government. The last pillar upon which Progressivism rests is an all powerful centralized government. The only time this is not embraced is when it infringes upon one of the other pillars. For you see Progs today run around chanting state rights when it comes to illegal drug legalization or moving illegals around from sanctuary city to sanctuary city. For example, refeer use is a federal crime, as is illegal immigration. Progs are simply openly defying these rules of law as states like Colorado legalize the use of reefer or cities openly declare themselves a refuge for illegals. However, when it comes to any other issue, state rights go bye, bye. Instead, with Obama in office writing EO's that violate federal law on such things as immigration, then all of a sudden the federal government becomes the ultimate authority again. Then when states like Arizona try and stand up to enforce immigration laws on the books, they get sued by Obama and company and forced to comply with the law,. We have now become a nation of men, not laws, which further degrades the Constitution as a meaningless document to be reinterpreted awayor simply ignored by Progs to the point where no one even refers to it anymore.
You do not have a clue what progressives believe.
Here are my "pillars." Let the heads explode!!

. All lives matter. No one should have insufficient shelter, food, water or health care
2. All people and should enjoy equal protection under the law. No one should suffer from discrimination, humiliation or violence because of their race, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation, sexual identity, or disability

3. The earth matters. It is the only one we have and the environment must be protected for our posterity. Climate change is not a hoax

4. Income and wealth disparity must be revered through a fair, progressive tax structure. A nation that is on the way to a plutocracy and oligarchy will not survive for long

5. No one should have to work more than one full time job to pay the bills, while CEOs make obscene amounts of money that cannot be justified.
6. War and the use of force in the world must be a very last resort, used only when diplomacy fails and the United States is facing a real and grave danger.

7. This is a nation built of immigrants . People seeking to come to this country for a better life economically, or to flee strife in their home land should not be shunned or feared. Entire groups should not be marginalized and rejected because of the actions and fanaticism of some.

8. Trade with other nations should be fair, not free, meaning that the consideration of protecting the environment, preventing the exploitation of workers, and consumer safety should be placed over profit and trade deficits

9. Boarders should be secured using appropriate technology and manpower, not half baked ideas that appeal to a political base and are not practical or cost effective
10. Criminal Justice must be reformed to reduce the prison population of non violent offenders, and to address the issue of racial disparity in arrests, prosecution and sentencing. The death penalty must be abolished . Drug crimes must be treated as a public health problem instead of a criminal matter

11. The federal government has the responsibility for actively protecting the health and welfare of all citizens , both from physical harm, and discrimination. The tenth amendment must be understood in the context of the entire constitution, especially the bill of rights and the 14th amendment. States may not violate the US constitution, and voters do not get to decide matters of civil rights.

12.Guns must be kept out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people. High capacity assault weapons must be kept out of the hands of everyone not in the military or law enforcement. There must be a national and uniform policy.

13. It is time for the Equal Rights Amendment protecting women from discrimination is ratified, and the passage of the Employment non discrimination, as well as laws addressing discrimination in housing and places of public accommodation for LGBT people.

14. Religious freedom does not mean the ability to use religion as a weapon to discriminate against others. The first amendment applies equally to all, not just conservative Christians who have weaponized religion.

15. Public education must remain free and well funded and without religious beliefs influencing it. Real science, not junk science must be taught. Real history, not whitewashed revisionist history must also be taught. +Meaningful sex education, not abstinence only is a must. Children are the future

16. Abortion should be rare, but available when necessary. That can be achieved, not by denying women the right to choose but by allowing contraception to be readily available, and by supporting other policies and programs that can prevent unwanted pregnancies and provide supports to women to chose to carry an unexpected pregnancy to term.

17. Financial and insurance institutions must be well regulated in order to prevent another near collapse of the global economy as almost happened in 2008 as the result of greed, and recklessness of the banks.

18. Consumers must be protected from physical harm and financial exploitation by banks, insurers and mortgage companies

19. Health insurers should be put out of business. We need a single payer system

20. Big Pharma- that charges ridiculous prices and sometimes withholds lifesaving drugs from the market because they are not profitable must be rained in.
Enjoy!!

1. So all lives matter? What about the unborn lives? What about conservatives who are target by the IRS? What about the deplorables who support Trump? What about the veterans who are put on secret death lists by the VA in Arizona? What about innocent police officers who are hunted down in the streets by BLM and murdered, simply because of their race and the fact they are law enforcement? What about the Asian man who had a perfect 4.0 average and a perfect score on the SAT who could not get into Yale because he was not black? How about the baker who sees making a cake for a ceremony he considers an abomination and refuses to make them a wedding cake? How about the people of Libya who did nothing to the US and did not threaten the US in any way who were all bombed to hell and back so that ISIS could take over their country? Do any of these lives matter?

2. If all people should enjoy equal protection under the law, then why create groups like the NAACP? Why seek to create groups who only look out for the rights of gays, etc.? Why not create an entity that will want to investigate a shooting of a white teenager by a policeman as well as a black one? As near as I can see, what the left has done is create groups that simply divide America into race, sex, and political ideology.

3. So if you really believe in global warming, what is being offered by the government as a fix, which is Cap and Trade, is no fix at all. Any scientist worth their salt will tell you it is akin to putting bandage on a cancer. The real issue is money, surprise, surprise. Left wingers originally came up with cap and trade and the Chicago Climate Exchange. The goal was to create a huge pile of cash, about $15 trillion worth. Those who would have benefited reads like a who's who on the left, with Al Gore at the top of the list. Meanwhile hypocrites like Al live a jet set life with mansions to heat and cool all around the world. Did you know that one plane ride is equivalent to driving an SUV for one year? No, there is no serious solution to the global warming issue, only schemes for politicians to get rich.

4. Have you ever noticed that the rich states are all blue states? Have you noticed that wealthy men like Soros, and Buffett are all big liberals? In fact, Trump used to be one, assuming he ever changed. What about all the wealthy actors in Hollywood? Do you really think these people want to share anything with you, or perhaps they are all a bunch of demagogues who simply want to make it virtually impossible for you to ever reach their level of wealth.

5. No one should have to work more than one job to pay bills? Well if you increase minimum wages, they will have to work more to pay for increased costs of products and services they sell. If you have cap and trade, you will have to pay more to heat and cool your home. If you increase taxes, that will simply cause others to raise their prices to cover the expense. If government continues to inflate the dollar by printing money to pay for things we can't afford, then their dollar will be worth less and they will have to pay more for everything. Get it?

6. War should be a last resort? I suppose you had no problem with Obama going into Libya or escalating the war in Afghanistan then. If not, where are the threads you created in opposition to them? Hell, Hitlary wanted to set up a no fly zone in Syria which is code for, "we want to overthrow your dictatorial arse"

7. The US is a country of immigrants. However, it used to be that those seeking to enter had to prove their worth. For example, those at Ellis Island had to be healthy and relatively smart. They had to prove that they would contribute to society. Those who were too sick or stupid or had political ideologies that were troublesome were turned away. Today, Dims want to take anyone in who wants to come in. Now citizenship has become the world and anyone who wants to enter, which essentially destroys the whole notion of citizenship and nation sovereignty. Tell me, should have all of the Indians embraced the white man to come into their country? Was this not an invasion of conquest?

8. Trade with other nations should be fair? You sound like Trump now.

9. Actually, do some research on Operation Wetback. Back in the day Eike simply enforced labor laws to make sure that illegals were not being hired. Illegals then self deported. I would agree that a wall is not needed, but the problem is there is no will to enforce the borders nor to prevent illegals from being hired. What a wall would do would create a relatively permanent fixture that discourages illegal immigration no matter who is in power.

10. Legalize drugs, eh? Well I reckon if you are going to legalize illegals coming in to sell illegal drugs you may as well legalize drugs as well. Maybe the state could set up crack houses like they do stores that sell liquor. That sounds like progress, eh?

11. States may not violate the Constitution? How about Federal laws on immigration? I suppose it is OK to set up sanctuary states that house illegals even though it is against federal law. No, Progs don't care about the rule of law, they simply want their way and will either ignore the law or try and reinterpret the law or get the law changed to get their way. As I recall, Arizona tried to enforce federal immigration laws but was sued by Obama cuz he said that was a federal role, even though he was not fulfilling it. Of course, the outlaw liberal courts backed him but stop Trump from trying to implement federal laws on immigration. Unbelievable!!!!

12. I think you will find that the military kills far more innocent people in this world than private citizens ever will. And why is it that liberal havens like Chicago who have the most anti-gun advocates are the most violent?

13. Again, why not have a bill that protects all discrimination? Why single out groups to be raised above others? Have you ever noticed in Hollywood there are not famous Asian actors, unless they fit a stereotype and are into marshal arts. Imagine the stink if there were no famous black actors. Hypocrites!

14. Those of faith should not be forced to participate in a religious ceremony that they consider to be blasphemous.

15. If children are the future, why then does the state run education system come in 48th in the world when it comes to science and math in the US even though the US spends the most of any country on education? Should we empower the state even more when they do such a poor job, or is it time for reform? I don't see any public school allowed to teach Creation or even utter the horribly offensive word, "GOD", yet they public education system is in tatters. They even have sex education in the schools, even if parents may not approve of what is being taught. The state has become the parent. You have everything you could possibly want here, why are you whining?

16. Have you ever heard of Dr. Gosnell? He was an abortion doctor in the 1970's who was found to have a myriad of health violations. By all rights he should have been shut down. However, because he was an abortion doctor, they left him alone and simply stopped coming around to inspect him cuz abortion is such a political football. Now fast forward some 40 years. He continued to practice until someone complained. Then upon further investigation Gosnell had a grim history of abusing women and viable infants. In short, he became the nations #1 mass murderer overnight in his decades of practice. And guess what, he preyed most on minorities because they were the least likely to be able to come after him legally. There was a movie done about him but no Hollywood actor would take the role, cuz again, abortion is a political football and any opposition to is is viewed with contempt by Progs like you. I would even imagine that there are still a great number of Gosnells out their floating around unchecked.

I even recall a father who lost his teenage daughter to an abortion. Children are not so much allowed an aspirin from the school nurse without a parental notification but they can be driven to an abortionist and never notify the parents. BTW, the father has no legal recourse.

No, what we have today in the US is abortion at any price. It is a billion dollar industry. I notice you would rather target billion dollar insurance companies or drug companies than you would the abortion industry. Very telling.

17. So what did Obama do to "fix" the problem? LMAO!

18. Meaningless drivel

19. Yes, we know, the state should take over everything cuz they do everything so much better, like education. Why do you reckon some veterans opt not to go to the VA, which is government run health?

20. Yes, destroy the drug companies! That should help destroy more jobs which will create more uneducated people like yourself. Good thinking.
 
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From near as I can tell, there are 4 pillars of Progressivism which is their foundation. All four of these pillars is an assault on the Constitution. Why? Because the Constitution is a document that attempted to create a government that is limited. In other words, those in government are viewed as not having any superior intellectual capacity or righteous character than the average citizen. Such outrageous thinking must be destroyed so that every aspect in our lives is overseen and regulated by government who are the master race. Why without Big Brother monitoring our every move, we would all be dying in the streets as we render the planet inhabitable environmentally.

1. Illegal Immigration. Illegal immigration is the first pillar. It carries with it the notion that borders are not needed. We hear many Progs today say as much. So if there are no borders, then there are no sovereign nations. If there are no sovereign nations, then the Republic becomes obsolete, along with its documents such as the Constitution. Then an all powerful world government can be set up with a more "enlightened" Constitution that will be offered.

2. Massive debt. Massive debt will eventually destroy the Republic. It is not a matter of if, but when. No nation can continue trillion dollar deficits indefinitely. How they got this far is nothing short of a miracle. And as the Republic folds, again, so do it's documents.

3. Assault on Christianity. Many think that morality and government are separate, but in reality, all laws represent a moral code. Moreover, only a moral society can be trusted with freedom. As Ben Franklin once said, "In these sentiments, sir, I agree to this Constitution, with all its faults, if they are such; because I think that a General government necessary for us, and there is no form of government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered; and I believe further that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as toned despotic government, being incapable of any other." If society loses its moral soul and becomes a nation of convicts, then a warden is required to maintain order. Ripping morality out of schools and the rest of society is key to their cause. It's like I've always said, prison is a Prog utopia. Everyone has equal housing, dress, food, education, and health care and all of it is free. Not only that, these are "gun free zones" and every day is a gay pride day.

4. Centralized all powerful government. The last pillar upon which Progressivism rests is an all powerful centralized government. The only time this is not embraced is when it infringes upon one of the other pillars. For you see Progs today run around chanting state rights when it comes to illegal drug legalization or moving illegals around from sanctuary city to sanctuary city. For example, refeer use is a federal crime, as is illegal immigration. Progs are simply openly defying these rules of law as states like Colorado legalize the use of reefer or cities openly declare themselves a refuge for illegals. However, when it comes to any other issue, state rights go bye, bye. Instead, with Obama in office writing EO's that violate federal law on such things as immigration, then all of a sudden the federal government becomes the ultimate authority again. Then when states like Arizona try and stand up to enforce immigration laws on the books, they get sued by Obama and company and forced to comply with the law,. We have now become a nation of men, not laws, which further degrades the Constitution as a meaningless document to be reinterpreted awayor simply ignored by Progs to the point where no one even refers to it anymore.
You do not have a clue what progressives believe.
Here are my "pillars." Let the heads explode!!

. All lives matter. No one should have insufficient shelter, food, water or health care
2. All people and should enjoy equal protection under the law. No one should suffer from discrimination, humiliation or violence because of their race, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation, sexual identity, or disability

3. The earth matters. It is the only one we have and the environment must be protected for our posterity. Climate change is not a hoax

4. Income and wealth disparity must be revered through a fair, progressive tax structure. A nation that is on the way to a plutocracy and oligarchy will not survive for long

5. No one should have to work more than one full time job to pay the bills, while CEOs make obscene amounts of money that cannot be justified.
6. War and the use of force in the world must be a very last resort, used only when diplomacy fails and the United States is facing a real and grave danger.

7. This is a nation built of immigrants . People seeking to come to this country for a better life economically, or to flee strife in their home land should not be shunned or feared. Entire groups should not be marginalized and rejected because of the actions and fanaticism of some.

8. Trade with other nations should be fair, not free, meaning that the consideration of protecting the environment, preventing the exploitation of workers, and consumer safety should be placed over profit and trade deficits

9. Boarders should be secured using appropriate technology and manpower, not half baked ideas that appeal to a political base and are not practical or cost effective
10. Criminal Justice must be reformed to reduce the prison population of non violent offenders, and to address the issue of racial disparity in arrests, prosecution and sentencing. The death penalty must be abolished . Drug crimes must be treated as a public health problem instead of a criminal matter

11. The federal government has the responsibility for actively protecting the health and welfare of all citizens , both from physical harm, and discrimination. The tenth amendment must be understood in the context of the entire constitution, especially the bill of rights and the 14th amendment. States may not violate the US constitution, and voters do not get to decide matters of civil rights.

12.Guns must be kept out of the hands of criminals and mentally ill people. High capacity assault weapons must be kept out of the hands of everyone not in the military or law enforcement. There must be a national and uniform policy.

13. It is time for the Equal Rights Amendment protecting women from discrimination is ratified, and the passage of the Employment non discrimination, as well as laws addressing discrimination in housing and places of public accommodation for LGBT people.

14. Religious freedom does not mean the ability to use religion as a weapon to discriminate against others. The first amendment applies equally to all, not just conservative Christians who have weaponized religion.

15. Public education must remain free and well funded and without religious beliefs influencing it. Real science, not junk science must be taught. Real history, not whitewashed revisionist history must also be taught. +Meaningful sex education, not abstinence only is a must. Children are the future

16. Abortion should be rare, but available when necessary. That can be achieved, not by denying women the right to choose but by allowing contraception to be readily available, and by supporting other policies and programs that can prevent unwanted pregnancies and provide supports to women to chose to carry an unexpected pregnancy to term.

17. Financial and insurance institutions must be well regulated in order to prevent another near collapse of the global economy as almost happened in 2008 as the result of greed, and recklessness of the banks.

18. Consumers must be protected from physical harm and financial exploitation by banks, insurers and mortgage companies

19. Health insurers should be put out of business. We need a single payer system

20. Big Pharma- that charges ridiculous prices and sometimes withholds lifesaving drugs from the market because they are not profitable must be rained in.
Enjoy!!

1. So all lives matter? What about the unborn lives? What about conservatives who are target by the IRS? What about the deplorables who support Trump? What about the veterans who are put on secret death lists by the VA in Arizona? What about innocent police officers who are hunted down in the streets by BLM and murdered, simply because of their race and the fact they are law enforcement? What about the Asian man who had a perfect 4.0 average and a perfect score on the SAT who could not get into Yale because he was not black? How about the baker who sees making a cake for a ceremony he considers an abomination and refuses to make them a wedding cake? How about the people of Libya who did nothing to the US and did not threaten the US in any way who were all bombed to hell and back so that ISIS could take over their country? Do any of these lives matter?

2. If all people should enjoy equal protection under the law, then why create groups like the NAACP? Why seek to create groups who only look out for the rights of gays, etc.? Why not create an entity that will want to investigate a shooting of a white teenager by a policeman as well as a black one? As near as I can see, what the left has done is create groups that simply divide America into race, sex, and political ideology.

3. So if you really believe in global warming, what is being offered by the government as a fix, which is Cap and Trade, is no fix at all. Any scientist worth their salt will tell you it is akin to putting bandage on a cancer. The real issue is money, surprise, surprise. Left wingers originally came up with cap and trade and the Chicago Climate Exchange. The goal was to create a huge pile of cash, about $15 trillion worth. Those who would have benefited reads like a who's who on the left, with Al Gore at the top of the list. Meanwhile hypocrites like Al live a jet set life with mansions to heat and cool all around the world. Did you know that one plane ride is equivalent to driving an SUV for one year? No, there is no serious solution to the global warming issue, only schemes for politicians to get rich.

4. Have you ever noticed that the rich states are all blue states? Have you noticed that wealthy men like Soros, and Buffett are all big liberals? In fact, Trump used to be one, assuming he ever changed. What about all the wealthy actors in Hollywood? Do you really think these people want to share anything with you, or perhaps they are all a bunch of demagogues who simply want to make it virtually impossible for you to ever reach their level of wealth.

5. No one should have to work more than one job to pay bills? Well if you increase minimum wages, they will have to work more to pay for increased costs of products and services they sell. If you have cap and trade, you will have to pay more to heat and cool your home. If you increase taxes, that will simply cause others to raise their prices to cover the expense. If government continues to inflate the dollar by printing money to pay for things we can't afford, then their dollar will be worth less and they will have to pay more for everything. Get it?

6. War should be a last resort? I suppose you had no problem with Obama going into Libya or escalating the war in Afghanistan then. If not, where are the threads you created in opposition to them? Hell, Hitlary wanted to set up a no fly zone in Syria which is code for, "we want to overthrow your dictatorial arse"

7. The US is a country of immigrants. However, it used to be that those seeking to enter had to prove their worth. For example, those at Ellis Island had to be healthy and relatively smart. They had to prove that they would contribute to society. Those who were too sick or stupid or had political ideologies that were troublesome were turned away. Today, Dims want to take anyone in who wants to come in. Now citizenship has become the world and anyone who wants to enter, which essentially destroys the whole notion of citizenship and nation sovereignty. Tell me, should have all of the Indians embraced the white man to come into their country? Was this not an invasion of conquest?

8. Trade with other nations should be fair? You sound like Trump now.

9. Actually, do some research on Operation Wetback. Back in the day Eike simply enforced labor laws to make sure that illegals were not being hired. Illegals then self deported. I would agree that a wall is not needed, but the problem is there is no will to enforce the borders nor to prevent illegals from being hired. What a wall would do would create a relatively permanent fixture that discourages illegal immigration no matter who is in power.

10. Legalize drugs, eh? Well I reckon if you are going to legalize illegals coming in to sell illegal drugs you may as well legalize drugs as well. Maybe the state could set up crack houses like they do stores that sell liquor. That sounds like progress, eh?

11. States may not violate the Constitution? How about Federal laws on immigration? I suppose it is OK to set up sanctuary states that house illegals even though it is against federal law. No, Progs don't care about the rule of law, they simply want their way and will either ignore the law or try and reinterpret the law or get the law changed to get their way. As I recall, Arizona tried to enforce federal immigration laws but was sued by Obama cuz he said that was a federal role, even though he was not fulfilling it. Of course, the outlaw liberal courts backed him but stop Trump from trying to implement federal laws on immigration. Unbelievable!!!!

12. I think you will find that the military kills far more innocent people in this world than private citizens ever will. And why is it that liberal havens like Chicago who have the most anti-gun advocates are the most violent?

13. Again, why not have a bill that protects all discrimination? Why single out groups to be raised above others? Have you ever noticed in Hollywood there are not famous Asian actors, unless they fit a stereotype and are into marshal arts. Imagine the stink if there were no famous black actors. Hypocrites!

14. Those of faith should not be forced to participate in a religious ceremony that they consider to be blasphemous.

15. If children are the future, why then does the state run education system come in 48th in the world when it comes to science and math in the US even though the US spends the most of any country on education? Should we empower the state even more when they do such a poor job, or is it time for reform? I don't see any public school allowed to teach Creation or even utter the horribly offensive word, "GOD", yet they public education system is in tatters. They even have sex education in the schools, even if parents may not approve of what is being taught. The state has become the parent. You have everything you could possibly want here, why are you whining?

16. Have you ever heard of Dr. Gosnell? He was an abortion doctor in the 1970's who was found to have a myriad of health violations. By all rights he should have been shut down. However, because he was an abortion doctor, they left him alone and simply stopped coming around to inspect him cuz abortion is such a political football. Now fast forward some 40 years. He continued to practice until someone complained. Then upon further investigation Gosnell had a grim history of abusing women and viable infants. In short, he became the nations #1 mass murderer overnight in his decades of practice. And guess what, he preyed most on minorities because they were the least likely to be able to come after him legally. There was a movie done about him but no Hollywood actor would take the role, cuz again, abortion is a political football and any opposition to is is viewed with contempt by Progs like you. I would even imagine that there are still a great number of Gosnells out their floating around unchecked.

I even recall a father who lost his teenage daughter to an abortion. Children are not so much allowed an aspirin from the school nurse without a parental notification but they can be driven to an abortionist and never notify the parents. BTW, the father has no legal recourse.

No, what we have today in the US is abortion at any price. It is a billion dollar industry. I notice you would rather target billion dollar insurance companies or drug companies than you would the abortion industry. Very telling.

17. So what did Obama do to "fix" the problem? LMAO!

18. Meaningless drivel

19. Yes, we know, the state should take over everything cuz they do everything so much better, like education. Why do you reckon some veterans opt not to go to the VA, which is government run health?

20. Yes, destroy the drug companies! That should help destroy more jobs which will create more uneducated people like yourself. Good thinking.

.Votto : " So all lives matter? What about the unborn lives?"

PP: I personally do not believe that life begins at conception, but I respect those who do if, and only if they also believe that human life is valuable after bith as well. Many of those who call themselves pro life atr not really pro life-they are just pro embryo

Votto :"What about conservatives who are target by the IRS?"

PP I don't know for a fact that the IRS was used for political purposes or that conservatives were targeted for their politics. However, if it was used in this way I would agree that it was wrong and I'm sure most progressives would also

Votto :"What about the deplorable who support Trump?"

PP What about them? I wish them no harm. Their lives matter. I just want to educate them so that they will see that other's lives also matter.

Votto:"What about the veterans who are put on secret death lists by the VA in Arizona? I don't know what that is about ."

PP Sounds like some horseshit conspiracy theory. But, neither I or progressives in general wish harm to the vets.

Votto: "What about innocent police officers who are hunted down in the streets by BLM and murdered, simply because of their race and the fact they are law enforcement?"

PP There is or was an element within BLM that advocated and committed acts of violence, but it's stupid to claim that progressives, in any way condone it. Keep in mind that BLM came about because some cops acted like black lives don't matter, but I do not paint all law enforcement with the same broad brush as you pint all BLM participants

Votto :"What about the Asian man who had a perfect 4.0 average and a perfect score on the SAT who could not get into Yale because he was not black?"

Not familiar with the case but affirmative action serves an important purpose. You finally hit on something that progressive actually believe.

Votto: " How about the baker who sees making a cake for a ceremony he considers an abomination and refuses to make them a wedding cake?"

PP Tough shit. Get another job . We cannot allow discrimination in places of public accommodation. Wow, another thing that progressive actually believe. You're on a roll!

Votto: "How about the people of Libya who did nothing to the US and did not threaten the US in any way who were all bombed to hell and back so that ISIS could take over their country? Do any of these lives matter?"

PP The US wanted ISIS to take over Libya?? Seriously? That is just stupid. Now if your talking about the 1986 attack to oust Gaddfi, it was Regan that did it. Not a progressive. Who attack Iraq in another nation building attempt. Now another president who also not a progressive is about to attack N. Korea for similar reasons.

PP Through out this paragraph, you have made what are mostly idiotic assumptions and generalizations about what progressives believe and want for the country. You have basically called me a hypocrite with each of your points, implying that I don't really believe that all lives matter. At the same time you have failed to discredit a single point that I made. That amounts to one gigantic logical fallacy. Actually, it is my favorite logical fallacy :

"tu quoque (To kwok we )(Latin for "you, too" or "you, also") or the appeal to hypocrisy, is a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position; it attempts to show that a criticism or objection applies equally to the person making it. This dismisses someone's point of view based on criticism of the person's inconsistency and not the position presented whereas a person's inconsistency should not discredit the position. Thus, it is a form of the ad hominem argument. To clarify, although the person being attacked might indeed be acting inconsistently or hypocritically, this does not invalidate their argument."

More later if I should find myself with nothing better to do, which is doubtful
 
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