MarathonMike
Diamond Member
The Kyoto Protocol is an international treaty which extends the 1992 United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) that commits State Parties to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, based on the premise that
(a) global warming exists
(b) human-made CO2 emissions have caused it.
Item (b) is the problem because this premise is based on climate data that was skewed to produce the desired result, that being human caused C02 emissions have driven global temperatures higher. In other words, the Kyoto Protocol makes a claim and basically states "prove that human made C02 didn't cause global warming".
That is of course impossible to prove or disprove which is exactly the argument the "deniers" put forth. No one can determine what the human contribution to global warming is. You would need a time machine and the ability to turn off most of the CO2 sources. Only Then would you KNOW the temperature difference was due to human-made C02 emissions.
Now is it a good idea to limit air pollution? Of course it is. Is it reasonable to make a direct cause and effect link between air pollution and higher global temperatures? Of course not. How does anyone know the temperature rise isn't part of a macro cycle spanning hundreds, thousands or tens of thousands of years? Without a time machine, you can tinker with computer models you want and you will still NOT KNOW.
(a) global warming exists
(b) human-made CO2 emissions have caused it.
Item (b) is the problem because this premise is based on climate data that was skewed to produce the desired result, that being human caused C02 emissions have driven global temperatures higher. In other words, the Kyoto Protocol makes a claim and basically states "prove that human made C02 didn't cause global warming".
That is of course impossible to prove or disprove which is exactly the argument the "deniers" put forth. No one can determine what the human contribution to global warming is. You would need a time machine and the ability to turn off most of the CO2 sources. Only Then would you KNOW the temperature difference was due to human-made C02 emissions.
Now is it a good idea to limit air pollution? Of course it is. Is it reasonable to make a direct cause and effect link between air pollution and higher global temperatures? Of course not. How does anyone know the temperature rise isn't part of a macro cycle spanning hundreds, thousands or tens of thousands of years? Without a time machine, you can tinker with computer models you want and you will still NOT KNOW.