The Dumpster Rapist is sorry: Blames 'Party Culture' for Sexual Assault

[HenryBHough]

Here I thought he meant The Democrat Party - and that MIGHT have excused him in front of a liberal judge.................

 

[ClosedCaption]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

Thanks for those facts detective. They were in front of judges and lawyers! Wow, thanks!

 

[ClosedCaption]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

What??? Mr Factual was wrong? Now who will he blame? The media or the rapist?

 

[Elvis Obama]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Oooohh! CNN! Well, CNN is wrong. I think that's 126,394 times they've been wrong, but my count may be overly generous. The initial charges included rape, but those charges were dropped before the trial began.

 

[WinterBorn]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Oooohh! CNN! Well, CNN is wrong. I think that's 126,394 times they've been wrong, but my count may be overly generous. The initial charges included rape, but those charges were dropped before the trial began.

He was convicted. What were the charges?

 

[Elvis Obama]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Well, I guess that Elvis is saying that his failure to carry through with the rape that he intended, warrants some gratis. Good thing he had not brought his Viagra....

Ahhh, the rape he intended! You see I can't argue about that. I don't know what he intended. I only discuss facts, not assumptions. With you, it's just the opposite.

 

[WinterBorn]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Oooohh! CNN! Well, CNN is wrong. I think that's 126,394 times they've been wrong, but my count may be overly generous. The initial charges included rape, but those charges were dropped before the trial began.

According to Mercury News:
"Turner, 20, was convicted by a jury in March of assault with intent to commit rape of an intoxicated woman, sexually penetrating an intoxicated person with a foreign object and sexually penetrating an unconscious person with a foreign object. The first offense -- assault to commit rape --carries a mandatory prison sentence. But Judge Aaron Persky, citing Turner's youth, lack of a criminal record and the fact that alcohol was involved in the January 2015 assault, agreed with a probation department recommendation and sentenced him last week to six months in county jail instead."

The AP, Fox News and other media outlets refer to Brock Turner as a convicted rapist.

 

[WinterBorn]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Well, I guess that Elvis is saying that his failure to carry through with the rape that he intended, warrants some gratis. Good thing he had not brought his Viagra....

Ahhh, the rape he intended! You see I can't argue about that. I don't know what he intended. I only discuss facts, not assumptions. With you, it's just the opposite.

I think him being caught ON TOP OF HER pretty much shows what he intended.

 

[Elvis Obama]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Oooohh! CNN! Well, CNN is wrong. I think that's 126,394 times they've been wrong, but my count may be overly generous. The initial charges included rape, but those charges were dropped before the trial began.

He was convicted. What were the charges?

Google it. I normally don't tell people to look thing up for themselves, but in this thread I insist. I hate seeing criminal cases tried in the court of public opinion, but if people are going to venture down that path, they better do so on the basis of FACT.

 

[WinterBorn]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Oooohh! CNN! Well, CNN is wrong. I think that's 126,394 times they've been wrong, but my count may be overly generous. The initial charges included rape, but those charges were dropped before the trial began.

He was convicted. What were the charges?

Google it. I normally don't tell people to look thing up for themselves, but in this thread I insist. I hate seeing criminal cases tried in the court of public opinion, but if people are going to venture down that path, they better do so on the basis of FACT.

I posted what I found. That and the fact that the rest of the news media refers to him as a "convicted rapist". He was convicted of penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person. The penetration was with his finger. In some states that is rape, and in others it is sexual assault.

Arguing such nonsense does not change the fact that the charges warranted prison time.

 

[Michelle420]

Brock Turner, the former Stanford University swimmer who was convicted last week of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman on campus, blamed the “party culture” of “college life” for his actions.

Ex–Stanford Student Blames ‘Party Culture’ for Sexual Assault

And why did the media run with this picture

Instead of this one:

He looks creepier in the first one.

 

[Vandalshandle]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Well, I guess that Elvis is saying that his failure to carry through with the rape that he intended, warrants some gratis. Good thing he had not brought his Viagra....

Ahhh, the rape he intended! You see I can't argue about that. I don't know what he intended. I only discuss facts, not assumptions. With you, it's just the opposite.

Gee, Elvis, I wasn't the prosecutor, judge, or on the jury! I suspect that your beef is with them, not me!

These are the facts that are producing the outrage.
He was charged, and found guilty of intent to rape
He got a 6 month slap on the wrist.

 

[Elvis Obama]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Well, I guess that Elvis is saying that his failure to carry through with the rape that he intended, warrants some gratis. Good thing he had not brought his Viagra....

Ahhh, the rape he intended! You see I can't argue about that. I don't know what he intended. I only discuss facts, not assumptions. With you, it's just the opposite.

I think him being caught ON TOP OF HER pretty much shows what he intended.

Do you know what their relative positions were? With the kind of precision that is used in a criminal case? Can you say that their positions indicated non-consensual sex or consensual? At some point she becomes unconscious. If he knew that and went ahead, he's guilty. He never admitted it, and the girl has no memory of these events. What was brought out in trial which proved, beyond a reasonable doubt that he was aware that she had become unconscious? I have no idea? Do you? Perhaps the Judge's light sentence indicated that he didn't think a very high degree of proof had been brought out?

 

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[Vandalshandle]

There is a slight discrepancy in justice between the kid in California convicted of intending to rape an unconscious woman, getting 6 months in the slammer, and Emmett Till, a black kid who "flirted" with a white woman, in the South and was lynched.

Emmett Till - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suspect that true justice for both was somehow lost in the process.

 

[Katzndogz]

There is a slight discrepancy in justice between the kid in California convicted of intending to rape an unconscious woman, getting 6 months in the slammer, and Emmett Till, a black kid who "flirted" with a white woman, in the South and was lynched.

Emmett Till - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suspect that true justice for both was somehow lost in the process.

One happened in 2016 and the other happened in 1955.

If Brock had raped that woman in 1920, he would be a married man today.

 

[Vandalshandle]

There is a slight discrepancy in justice between the kid in California convicted of intending to rape an unconscious woman, getting 6 months in the slammer, and Emmett Till, a black kid who "flirted" with a white woman, in the South and was lynched.

Emmett Till - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suspect that true justice for both was somehow lost in the process.

One happened in 2016 and the other happened in 1955.

If Brock had raped that woman in 1920, he would be a married man today.

Well, I guess that means that everything is ok. Cosby will be pleased. He never raped a conscious woman, and my understanding that if he is convicted, he faces 10 years. This case will bring a big relief to him.

 

[Elvis Obama]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Oooohh! CNN! Well, CNN is wrong. I think that's 126,394 times they've been wrong, but my count may be overly generous. The initial charges included rape, but those charges were dropped before the trial began.

He was convicted. What were the charges?

Google it. I normally don't tell people to look thing up for themselves, but in this thread I insist. I hate seeing criminal cases tried in the court of public opinion, but if people are going to venture down that path, they better do so on the basis of FACT.

I posted what I found. That and the fact that the rest of the news media refers to him as a "convicted rapist". He was convicted of penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person. The penetration was with his finger. In some states that is rape, and in others it is sexual assault.

Arguing such nonsense does not change the fact that the charges warranted prison time.

He was given prison time. Not enough, you say. What do you know about it, I say. What allows you to say you know better than the judge? Perhaps the judge felt that a miscarriage of justice had occurred. That either the jury or the defense failed to do their jobs properly. Perhaps that's why his sentence was light. What knowledge do you have, either of California law or of the facts of this case, which makes your judgement better than his?

 

[Elvis Obama]

The contempt for fact demonstrated in this thread and in the media is disgusting. Turner was not tried for rape, and therefore was not convicted of rape.

The people who have the greatest command of the facts in this case are the judge and the lawyers. The lawyers who declined to prosecute for rape and the judge who imposed a light sentence. Naturally it's the Monday morning quarterbacks who are in the right. Enjoy your unearned, fact-free moralizing.

According to CNN, he was convicted of the following:
"Turner, 20, was convicted in March of the intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person, penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person."

That certainly warrants more than 6 months in county.

Oooohh! CNN! Well, CNN is wrong. I think that's 126,394 times they've been wrong, but my count may be overly generous. The initial charges included rape, but those charges were dropped before the trial began.

He was convicted. What were the charges?

Google it. I normally don't tell people to look thing up for themselves, but in this thread I insist. I hate seeing criminal cases tried in the court of public opinion, but if people are going to venture down that path, they better do so on the basis of FACT.

I posted what I found. That and the fact that the rest of the news media refers to him as a "convicted rapist". He was convicted of penetration of an intoxicated person and penetration of an unconscious person. The penetration was with his finger. In some states that is rape, and in others it is sexual assault.

Arguing such nonsense does not change the fact that the charges warranted prison time.

That you regard such facts as "nonsense" says everything that needs to be said about your ability to discuss the law. No, precise definitions and nomenclature are actually pretty important to the law. Sorry.

 

[Katzndogz]

There is a slight discrepancy in justice between the kid in California convicted of intending to rape an unconscious woman, getting 6 months in the slammer, and Emmett Till, a black kid who "flirted" with a white woman, in the South and was lynched.

Emmett Till - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suspect that true justice for both was somehow lost in the process.

One happened in 2016 and the other happened in 1955.

If Brock had raped that woman in 1920, he would be a married man today.

Well, I guess that means that everything is ok. Cosby will be pleased. He never raped a conscious woman, and my understanding that if he is convicted, he faces 10 years. This case will bring a big relief to him.

The difference being, Cosby drugged those women. In the Stanford case, no one was drugged. She got shitfaced on her own.

Suppose we started raising boys to be men with the idea that they shouldn't take advantage of the weaker sex and should protect the vulnerable.

Fuck that. It's patriarchal.