Couldn't resist the moron could we?
So a 10 year Moscow mi6 guy is wrong?
I thought nothing said had been proven wrong.
Maybe we should list his actual claims/points.
I'll try to wade through your message
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The Disreputable Robert Mueller
- Thread starter PoliticalChic
- Start date
So a 10 year Moscow mi6 guy is wrong?
I thought nothing said had been proven wrong.
Maybe we should list his actual claims/points.
I'll try to wade through your message
So why did comey publish anti Hillary texts that did her in?None of that relates to the dossier being public knowledge during campaign.The October 19th 2016 date refers to FISA application on Carter Page.How could the dossier be used to help Hillary when nobody knew about the dossier during the campaign?
I used to think you dopes were playing dumb......
The dossier was issued on Oct. 19, 2016, according to reporting this week from The Post.
We do know one element contained in it. The Post first reported on the warrant (known as a FISA warrant, short for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) in April. "
Analysis | What we know about the warrant to surveil Carter Page
"...in April 2016, Marc Elias — a top Democratic campaign lawyer — retained Fusion GPS through his firm of Perkins Coie on behalf of both Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Perkins Coie, at Elias’s behest and with the bills ultimately paid by Clinton and the DNC, continued to fund Fusion’s work through the end of October 2016, though the people involved say that neither the campaign nor the DNC was aware of the details of Fusion’s work."
Steele’s dossier circulated in the media during the fall of 2016..."
The Steele dossier on Trump and Russia, explained
Clearly, the dossier is contemporary with the Left/FBI attack on Trump associates.
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
This (as always) is done in secret and isn't publicly known.
The dossier was only made public after Trump assumed office, by buzzfeed. About a month after Trump was swornin.
"...the memo states that then-deputy director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, quote, testified before the committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISA court without the Steele dossier information? Democrats say he never said that, did he?
NUNES: Yes. I mean, it’s a summation of a long interview. And that is definitely what he said. Not to mention, we have other witnesses who said very similar things. So, the fact of the matter is, the main things that were used to go out and get this warrant was the dossier and the story that corroborated the dossier.
Nunes on Memo: This Is About FBI Using Oppo Research To Get FISA Warrant On Trump Campaign
3. Even when the story blew up:
"FBI Director James Comey has been caught going around to secret Congressional briefings in “recent weeks” touting the lurid fake “Trump dossier.” He has been claiming that it is a major foundation of the FBI’s investigation of purported Russian collusion with Trump to interfere in the election—months after theFBI had already assessed the “dossier” as non-credible."
The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
"Each FISA application — the original one in October 2016, and the three renewals at 90-day intervals — is labeled "VERIFIED APPLICATION" (bold caps in original). And each one makes this breathtaking representation:
'The FBI has reviewed this verified application for accuracy in accordance with its April 5, 2001 procedures, which include sending a copy of the draft to the appropriate field office(s).'
In reality, the applications were never verified for accuracy."
McCarthy concludes that the FBI was "at best, being hyper-technical, and thus misleading."
So, after all the spinning, these are the undisputed facts: The FBI went to court to get a wiretap on a U.S. citizen it claimed was a Russian agent. It based this charge mainly on an uncorroborated, salacious document financed by the Clinton campaign. It failed to clearly disclose the funding source. Nor did it reveal that it had independently corroborated any of its claims."
At Best, The FISA Application Shows FBI Misled The Court To Wiretap Trump Campaign
Why are you afraid to answer this query?
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
All that stuff happened in secret.
As far as the FISA warrants: were renewed three more times after the initial application. Each renewal included more evidence than the last.
Its moot anyways, because thats not what triggered Mueller probe.
Everyone, but you, knows what triggered the Mueller fiasco: Hillary lost.
No anti Donald material?
The October 19th 2016 date refers to FISA application on Carter Page.How could the dossier be used to help Hillary when nobody knew about the dossier during the campaign?The Kremlin was the subject of much of the dossier.
But yes, its certainly likely that the Kremlin fed some misinformation to Steele, yet the bulk of it remains corroborated.
"..., yet the bulk of it remains corroborated."
Another lie I will shred:
"After 18 months of steely-eyed investigation, the only parts of the dossier that have been "confirmed" are bland factual statements -- Moscow is a city in Russia -- while the untrue parts are anything having to do with Trump or his associates.
As New York Times national security reporter Matthew Rosenberg explained to MSNBC's easily excited Chris Hayes last March:
"Both journalists and others who had copies of it for a long time have not been able to report much of it out. We've heard that, you know, the FBI and the Intelligence Community believe about 30 percent of it may be accurate, but most of that 30 percent, if not all, has been non-Trump stuff."
February 7, 2018 - CARTER PAGE: AGENT 000
“Not one claim concerning Trump in the Steele Dossier has ever been verified by the FBI, according to Andrew McCabe himself in recent testimony to the House Intelligence Committee. The only confirmed fact is unsurprising: former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page traveled to Moscow on his own dime and met with various Russians—all perfectly legal.
Comey and then-CIA Director John Brennan laundered the Steele Dossier through the U.S. intelligence community to give it an aura of credibility and get it to the press. It was also used by the FBI and senior DOJ officials to secure wiretap warrants from a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court. Then its contents, via court-authorized FISA warrants, were used to justify the illegal unmasking of the identities of wiretapped Trump officials.”
The Politicization of the FBI
“Agents did not believe that either the source or Mr. Steele was deliberately inventing things, according to the former official. How the dossier ended up loaded with dubious or exaggerated details remains uncertain, but the document may be the result of a high-stakes game of telephone, in which rumors and hearsay were passed from source to source.” Mueller Report Likely to Renew Scrutiny of Steele Dossier
The purpose was to
a. sink Trump
b. elect Hillary
c. influence morons like you.
I used to think you dopes were playing dumb......
The dossier was issued on Oct. 19, 2016, according to reporting this week from The Post.
We do know one element contained in it. The Post first reported on the warrant (known as a FISA warrant, short for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) in April. "
Analysis | What we know about the warrant to surveil Carter Page
"...in April 2016, Marc Elias — a top Democratic campaign lawyer — retained Fusion GPS through his firm of Perkins Coie on behalf of both Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Perkins Coie, at Elias’s behest and with the bills ultimately paid by Clinton and the DNC, continued to fund Fusion’s work through the end of October 2016, though the people involved say that neither the campaign nor the DNC was aware of the details of Fusion’s work."
Steele’s dossier circulated in the media during the fall of 2016..."
The Steele dossier on Trump and Russia, explained
Clearly, the dossier is contemporary with the Left/FBI attack on Trump associates.
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
This (as always) is done in secret and isn't publicly known.
The dossier was only made public after Trump assumed office, by buzzfeed. About a month after Trump was swornin.
"...the memo states that then-deputy director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, quote, testified before the committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISA court without the Steele dossier information? Democrats say he never said that, did he?
NUNES: Yes. I mean, it’s a summation of a long interview. And that is definitely what he said. Not to mention, we have other witnesses who said very similar things. So, the fact of the matter is, the main things that were used to go out and get this warrant was the dossier and the story that corroborated the dossier.
Nunes on Memo: This Is About FBI Using Oppo Research To Get FISA Warrant On Trump Campaign
3. Even when the story blew up:
"FBI Director James Comey has been caught going around to secret Congressional briefings in “recent weeks” touting the lurid fake “Trump dossier.” He has been claiming that it is a major foundation of the FBI’s investigation of purported Russian collusion with Trump to interfere in the election—months after theFBI had already assessed the “dossier” as non-credible."
The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
"Each FISA application — the original one in October 2016, and the three renewals at 90-day intervals — is labeled "VERIFIED APPLICATION" (bold caps in original). And each one makes this breathtaking representation:
'The FBI has reviewed this verified application for accuracy in accordance with its April 5, 2001 procedures, which include sending a copy of the draft to the appropriate field office(s).'
In reality, the applications were never verified for accuracy."
McCarthy concludes that the FBI was "at best, being hyper-technical, and thus misleading."
So, after all the spinning, these are the undisputed facts: The FBI went to court to get a wiretap on a U.S. citizen it claimed was a Russian agent. It based this charge mainly on an uncorroborated, salacious document financed by the Clinton campaign. It failed to clearly disclose the funding source. Nor did it reveal that it had independently corroborated any of its claims."
At Best, The FISA Application Shows FBI Misled The Court To Wiretap Trump Campaign
Why are you afraid to answer this query?
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
Why are you preoccupied with moron?
Dead giveaway for zero college debating skills.
Insult and you lose
Kim Philly???Do you understand the difference between the Russian government (aka Kremlin) and the Russian people?You have actual link?The Dossier claimed it's sources were linked to the Kremlin, when the Dossier was used by Obama and the Intelligence Community to illegally spy on Trump, this claim was given weight. Now that they want to impeach Trump for even mentioning to Ukraine that they should follow up on the obvious corruption of Biden family, the Left has reversed itself.Everybody in Russia has free will, just like here in the USA not everybody supports Trump. They have phones and internet in Russia. The Russians who helped Steele were acting on their own behalf as indiviuals. Not everybody loves Putin in Russia, just like any other country where a leader isnt universally liked.
Putin himself said he wanted Trump
Why Putin hates Hillary.
1) Top 10 crimes Mueller report considers
John Solomon has zero credibility
2) It was the FBI surveilling Russian influence, and they warned Trump Campaign that Russia was doing it. However, the campaign had a shitload of contacts with Russia that were picked up in the process.
3) That is a conspiracy memo
4) here are two common instances in which Americans’ names are included in the reports
Trump's FBI director say there wasnt spying
In summary, think before you post. Use credible sources.
You fool no one!
You do know a conservative group bought the dossier originally?
"You do know a conservative group bought the dossier originally?"
That's a lie.
Watch me shred it.
The attempted obfuscation by the Left, the Democrats/Liberals, is to point out that the firs to hire Fusion GPS was a never-Trump website, the Washington Free Beacon.
THEN, Hillary directed $ millions to that company to get the Kremlin to provide the fabrications we call the 'dossier.'
Again?
The Washington Free Beacon used only domestic sources as opposition research.
The Democrats colluded, collaborated, conspired with Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin.....to sink the Trump candidacy.
And the Kremlin was happy to do so: they wanted the candidate that they had a history of bribing to be President.
"Lawyers for the conservative publication Washington Free Beacon informed the House Intelligence Committee Friday that the organization was the original funder for the anti-Trump opposition research project with Fusion GPS.
The Free Beacon funded the project from the fall of 2015 through the spring of 2016, whereupon it withdrew funding and the project was picked up by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.
The original arrangement between the Free Beacon and Fusion GPS involved opposition research into multiple Republican candidates, not just front-runner Donald Trump.
Sources close to the Free Beacon stress that the project, when the Free Beacon funded it, had nothing to do with Russia and did not involve Christopher Steele, the former British spy who gathered anti-Trump dirt in Russia. Steele was retained by Fusion GPS when the project was funded by Democrats, and not in its initial phase, when the Free Beacon was involved." Washington Free Beacon funded original Fusion GPS anti-Trump opposition effort
Soooo....only one entity paid Russia to involve itself in the election.....the DNC.
The incident that gave cover to the Democrats and gave rise to Mueller is the question of collusion with RUSSIA.
Steele was working with Russian people outside of government, such as ex-KGB.
A great explanation is here: They want you to believe Clinton colluded with Russia to defeat herself
Don't forget the FBI who favored Hillary so much that Comey torpedoed her campaign, by announcing re-opening of her email issue one week prior to voting.
No, dunce.....Steele was the latest version of Soviet spy in MI6, Kim Philby, who did Putin's bidding.
1. [Supposed author of the dossier,] Steele was a “confirmed socialist” in college at Oxford when he was hired by MI6, another point of suspicion for someone who would be dispatched to Moscow as a spy and later serve as head of the Russian desk at MI6, all extremely sensitive positions." The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
2.. Christopher Steele, Hillary's employee, got the 'dossier' via
Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch linked to Vladimir Putin, according to a new report.
CHRISTOPHER STEELE REPORTEDLY WORKED FOR SANCTIONED RUSSIAN OLIGARCH
Christopher Steele Reportedly Worked For Sanctioned Russian Oligarch
3. Russia is a dictatorship.
Nothing emanates from Moscow without Putin's imprimatur....
The 'information' in the infamous 'dossier' came from Russia.
Now.....if Putin wanted Trump to win.......would there have ever.......ever.....been a dossier?????
QED......the candidate of Vladimir Putin was Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.
4. If any collusion occurred, it was through Democrats, the only folks for whom we have actual evidence of collusion.
I think there's been a few since him
Apologies PhilbyKim Philly???Do you understand the difference between the Russian government (aka Kremlin) and the Russian people?You have actual link?The Dossier claimed it's sources were linked to the Kremlin, when the Dossier was used by Obama and the Intelligence Community to illegally spy on Trump, this claim was given weight. Now that they want to impeach Trump for even mentioning to Ukraine that they should follow up on the obvious corruption of Biden family, the Left has reversed itself.
You fool no one!
You do know a conservative group bought the dossier originally?
"You do know a conservative group bought the dossier originally?"
That's a lie.
Watch me shred it.
The attempted obfuscation by the Left, the Democrats/Liberals, is to point out that the firs to hire Fusion GPS was a never-Trump website, the Washington Free Beacon.
THEN, Hillary directed $ millions to that company to get the Kremlin to provide the fabrications we call the 'dossier.'
Again?
The Washington Free Beacon used only domestic sources as opposition research.
The Democrats colluded, collaborated, conspired with Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin.....to sink the Trump candidacy.
And the Kremlin was happy to do so: they wanted the candidate that they had a history of bribing to be President.
"Lawyers for the conservative publication Washington Free Beacon informed the House Intelligence Committee Friday that the organization was the original funder for the anti-Trump opposition research project with Fusion GPS.
The Free Beacon funded the project from the fall of 2015 through the spring of 2016, whereupon it withdrew funding and the project was picked up by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.
The original arrangement between the Free Beacon and Fusion GPS involved opposition research into multiple Republican candidates, not just front-runner Donald Trump.
Sources close to the Free Beacon stress that the project, when the Free Beacon funded it, had nothing to do with Russia and did not involve Christopher Steele, the former British spy who gathered anti-Trump dirt in Russia. Steele was retained by Fusion GPS when the project was funded by Democrats, and not in its initial phase, when the Free Beacon was involved." Washington Free Beacon funded original Fusion GPS anti-Trump opposition effort
Soooo....only one entity paid Russia to involve itself in the election.....the DNC.
The incident that gave cover to the Democrats and gave rise to Mueller is the question of collusion with RUSSIA.
Steele was working with Russian people outside of government, such as ex-KGB.
A great explanation is here: They want you to believe Clinton colluded with Russia to defeat herself
Don't forget the FBI who favored Hillary so much that Comey torpedoed her campaign, by announcing re-opening of her email issue one week prior to voting.
No, dunce.....Steele was the latest version of Soviet spy in MI6, Kim Philby, who did Putin's bidding.
1. [Supposed author of the dossier,] Steele was a “confirmed socialist” in college at Oxford when he was hired by MI6, another point of suspicion for someone who would be dispatched to Moscow as a spy and later serve as head of the Russian desk at MI6, all extremely sensitive positions." The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
2.. Christopher Steele, Hillary's employee, got the 'dossier' via
Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch linked to Vladimir Putin, according to a new report.
CHRISTOPHER STEELE REPORTEDLY WORKED FOR SANCTIONED RUSSIAN OLIGARCH
Christopher Steele Reportedly Worked For Sanctioned Russian Oligarch
3. Russia is a dictatorship.
Nothing emanates from Moscow without Putin's imprimatur....
The 'information' in the infamous 'dossier' came from Russia.
Now.....if Putin wanted Trump to win.......would there have ever.......ever.....been a dossier?????
QED......the candidate of Vladimir Putin was Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.
4. If any collusion occurred, it was through Democrats, the only folks for whom we have actual evidence of collusion.
I think there's been a few since him
No oz/papa London meeting?None of that relates to the dossier being public knowledge during campaign.The October 19th 2016 date refers to FISA application on Carter Page.How could the dossier be used to help Hillary when nobody knew about the dossier during the campaign?
I used to think you dopes were playing dumb......
The dossier was issued on Oct. 19, 2016, according to reporting this week from The Post.
We do know one element contained in it. The Post first reported on the warrant (known as a FISA warrant, short for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) in April. "
Analysis | What we know about the warrant to surveil Carter Page
"...in April 2016, Marc Elias — a top Democratic campaign lawyer — retained Fusion GPS through his firm of Perkins Coie on behalf of both Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Perkins Coie, at Elias’s behest and with the bills ultimately paid by Clinton and the DNC, continued to fund Fusion’s work through the end of October 2016, though the people involved say that neither the campaign nor the DNC was aware of the details of Fusion’s work."
Steele’s dossier circulated in the media during the fall of 2016..."
The Steele dossier on Trump and Russia, explained
Clearly, the dossier is contemporary with the Left/FBI attack on Trump associates.
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
This (as always) is done in secret and isn't publicly known.
The dossier was only made public after Trump assumed office, by buzzfeed. About a month after Trump was swornin.
"...the memo states that then-deputy director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, quote, testified before the committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISA court without the Steele dossier information? Democrats say he never said that, did he?
NUNES: Yes. I mean, it’s a summation of a long interview. And that is definitely what he said. Not to mention, we have other witnesses who said very similar things. So, the fact of the matter is, the main things that were used to go out and get this warrant was the dossier and the story that corroborated the dossier.
Nunes on Memo: This Is About FBI Using Oppo Research To Get FISA Warrant On Trump Campaign
3. Even when the story blew up:
"FBI Director James Comey has been caught going around to secret Congressional briefings in “recent weeks” touting the lurid fake “Trump dossier.” He has been claiming that it is a major foundation of the FBI’s investigation of purported Russian collusion with Trump to interfere in the election—months after theFBI had already assessed the “dossier” as non-credible."
The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
"Each FISA application — the original one in October 2016, and the three renewals at 90-day intervals — is labeled "VERIFIED APPLICATION" (bold caps in original). And each one makes this breathtaking representation:
'The FBI has reviewed this verified application for accuracy in accordance with its April 5, 2001 procedures, which include sending a copy of the draft to the appropriate field office(s).'
In reality, the applications were never verified for accuracy."
McCarthy concludes that the FBI was "at best, being hyper-technical, and thus misleading."
So, after all the spinning, these are the undisputed facts: The FBI went to court to get a wiretap on a U.S. citizen it claimed was a Russian agent. It based this charge mainly on an uncorroborated, salacious document financed by the Clinton campaign. It failed to clearly disclose the funding source. Nor did it reveal that it had independently corroborated any of its claims."
At Best, The FISA Application Shows FBI Misled The Court To Wiretap Trump Campaign
Why are you afraid to answer this query?
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
All that stuff happened in secret.
As far as the FISA warrants: were renewed three more times after the initial application. Each renewal included more evidence than the last.
Its moot anyways, because thats not what triggered Mueller probe.
Everyone, but you, knows what triggered the Mueller fiasco: Hillary lost.
Robert Mueller is an honorable man….I mean that in the same way Antony meant this about Brutus: “…for Brutus is an honorable man; they are all honorable men…”
While the stain is rapidly spreading over Comey, Rosenstein, McCabe, Strzok, Lynch,….and Obama, all of them are snakes, and are covered by that same quote.
1.Right off the top, Mueller has a history with Trump that should have required him to recuse himself, and refuse the special counsel position
“Trump argued that Mueller had three conflicts of interest preventing him from leading a fully unbiased investigation, according to the New York Times. The first two conflicts being Mueller’s previous work for a law firm that represented Jared Kushner; the second being Mueller interviewing to return for a second stint as FBI director immediately before being appointed as special counsel in May.
But arguably the most eye-catching alleged conflict of interest involves a purported dispute between Mueller and the Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Virginia, in October 2011. President Trump claimed Mueller resigned his membership at the club due to the alleged disagreement over fees and believes he still holds a grudge against him over the matter.
Mueller, who was FBI director at the time of the alleged dispute, denied the incident and any potential hard feelings.
“Mr. Mueller left the club in October 2011 without dispute,” special counsel spokesman Joshua Stueve said in July.”
Why did Mueller quit Trump’s golf club? Dispute reportedly key to president’s desire to fire special counsel
2. Unless Mueller is a total fool, he knew from day one that there was no substance to the collusion charges. Yet…..he ruined lives by pretending.
3. Stocking his ‘team’ with Clinton donors and anti-Trump partisans proves what he was about.
4. Although Mueller had right to look into anything that arises in connection with the alleged events, he refused to direct investigation toward Clinton…gave immunity.
The man signed on to the attempted…..failed…..coup to depose a duly elected President.
No honor or repute of any sort should ever be attached to this man.
wThe Kremlin was the subject of much of the dossier.Dossier Russian Sources included those that were Kremlin linked.Do you understand the difference between the Russian government (aka Kremlin) and the Russian people?You have actual link?
You do know a conservative group bought the dossier originally?
"You do know a conservative group bought the dossier originally?"
That's a lie.
Watch me shred it.
The attempted obfuscation by the Left, the Democrats/Liberals, is to point out that the firs to hire Fusion GPS was a never-Trump website, the Washington Free Beacon.
THEN, Hillary directed $ millions to that company to get the Kremlin to provide the fabrications we call the 'dossier.'
Again?
The Washington Free Beacon used only domestic sources as opposition research.
The Democrats colluded, collaborated, conspired with Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin.....to sink the Trump candidacy.
And the Kremlin was happy to do so: they wanted the candidate that they had a history of bribing to be President.
"Lawyers for the conservative publication Washington Free Beacon informed the House Intelligence Committee Friday that the organization was the original funder for the anti-Trump opposition research project with Fusion GPS.
The Free Beacon funded the project from the fall of 2015 through the spring of 2016, whereupon it withdrew funding and the project was picked up by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.
The original arrangement between the Free Beacon and Fusion GPS involved opposition research into multiple Republican candidates, not just front-runner Donald Trump.
Sources close to the Free Beacon stress that the project, when the Free Beacon funded it, had nothing to do with Russia and did not involve Christopher Steele, the former British spy who gathered anti-Trump dirt in Russia. Steele was retained by Fusion GPS when the project was funded by Democrats, and not in its initial phase, when the Free Beacon was involved." Washington Free Beacon funded original Fusion GPS anti-Trump opposition effort
Soooo....only one entity paid Russia to involve itself in the election.....the DNC.
The incident that gave cover to the Democrats and gave rise to Mueller is the question of collusion with RUSSIA.
Steele was working with Russian people outside of government, such as ex-KGB.
A great explanation is here: They want you to believe Clinton colluded with Russia to defeat herself
Don't forget the FBI who favored Hillary so much that Comey torpedoed her campaign, by announcing re-opening of her email issue one week prior to voting.
But yes, its certainly likely that the Kremlin fed some misinformation to Steele, yet the bulk of it remains corroborated.
"..., yet the bulk of it remains corroborated."
Another lie I will shred:
"After 18 months of steely-eyed investigation, the only parts of the dossier that have been "confirmed" are bland factual statements -- Moscow is a city in Russia -- while the untrue parts are anything having to do with Trump or his associates.
As New York Times national security reporter Matthew Rosenberg explained to MSNBC's easily excited Chris Hayes last March:
"Both journalists and others who had copies of it for a long time have not been able to report much of it out. We've heard that, you know, the FBI and the Intelligence Community believe about 30 percent of it may be accurate, but most of that 30 percent, if not all, has been non-Trump stuff."
February 7, 2018 - CARTER PAGE: AGENT 000
“Not one claim concerning Trump in the Steele Dossier has ever been verified by the FBI, according to Andrew McCabe himself in recent testimony to the House Intelligence Committee. The only confirmed fact is unsurprising: former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page traveled to Moscow on his own dime and met with various Russians—all perfectly legal.
Comey and then-CIA Director John Brennan laundered the Steele Dossier through the U.S. intelligence community to give it an aura of credibility and get it to the press. It was also used by the FBI and senior DOJ officials to secure wiretap warrants from a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court. Then its contents, via court-authorized FISA warrants, were used to justify the illegal unmasking of the identities of wiretapped Trump officials.”
The Politicization of the FBI
“Agents did not believe that either the source or Mr. Steele was deliberately inventing things, according to the former official. How the dossier ended up loaded with dubious or exaggerated details remains uncertain, but the document may be the result of a high-stakes game of telephone, in which rumors and hearsay were passed from source to source.” Mueller Report Likely to Renew Scrutiny of Steele Dossier
The purpose was to
a. sink Trump
b. elect Hillary
c. influence morons like you.
?I'm still waiting for actual examples/videos of testimonies.
And omg a golf dispute is in there?
Why don't you investigate Ronnie crimes, the worst in history?
dudmuck
Diamond Member
It was started by Papadopoulos bragging to an Australian diplomat, and then Trump firing Comey.None of that relates to the dossier being public knowledge during campaign.The October 19th 2016 date refers to FISA application on Carter Page.How could the dossier be used to help Hillary when nobody knew about the dossier during the campaign?
I used to think you dopes were playing dumb......
The dossier was issued on Oct. 19, 2016, according to reporting this week from The Post.
We do know one element contained in it. The Post first reported on the warrant (known as a FISA warrant, short for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) in April. "
Analysis | What we know about the warrant to surveil Carter Page
"...in April 2016, Marc Elias — a top Democratic campaign lawyer — retained Fusion GPS through his firm of Perkins Coie on behalf of both Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Perkins Coie, at Elias’s behest and with the bills ultimately paid by Clinton and the DNC, continued to fund Fusion’s work through the end of October 2016, though the people involved say that neither the campaign nor the DNC was aware of the details of Fusion’s work."
Steele’s dossier circulated in the media during the fall of 2016..."
The Steele dossier on Trump and Russia, explained
Clearly, the dossier is contemporary with the Left/FBI attack on Trump associates.
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
This (as always) is done in secret and isn't publicly known.
The dossier was only made public after Trump assumed office, by buzzfeed. About a month after Trump was swornin.
"...the memo states that then-deputy director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, quote, testified before the committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISA court without the Steele dossier information? Democrats say he never said that, did he?
NUNES: Yes. I mean, it’s a summation of a long interview. And that is definitely what he said. Not to mention, we have other witnesses who said very similar things. So, the fact of the matter is, the main things that were used to go out and get this warrant was the dossier and the story that corroborated the dossier.
Nunes on Memo: This Is About FBI Using Oppo Research To Get FISA Warrant On Trump Campaign
3. Even when the story blew up:
"FBI Director James Comey has been caught going around to secret Congressional briefings in “recent weeks” touting the lurid fake “Trump dossier.” He has been claiming that it is a major foundation of the FBI’s investigation of purported Russian collusion with Trump to interfere in the election—months after theFBI had already assessed the “dossier” as non-credible."
The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
"Each FISA application — the original one in October 2016, and the three renewals at 90-day intervals — is labeled "VERIFIED APPLICATION" (bold caps in original). And each one makes this breathtaking representation:
'The FBI has reviewed this verified application for accuracy in accordance with its April 5, 2001 procedures, which include sending a copy of the draft to the appropriate field office(s).'
In reality, the applications were never verified for accuracy."
McCarthy concludes that the FBI was "at best, being hyper-technical, and thus misleading."
So, after all the spinning, these are the undisputed facts: The FBI went to court to get a wiretap on a U.S. citizen it claimed was a Russian agent. It based this charge mainly on an uncorroborated, salacious document financed by the Clinton campaign. It failed to clearly disclose the funding source. Nor did it reveal that it had independently corroborated any of its claims."
At Best, The FISA Application Shows FBI Misled The Court To Wiretap Trump Campaign
Why are you afraid to answer this query?
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
All that stuff happened in secret.
As far as the FISA warrants: were renewed three more times after the initial application. Each renewal included more evidence than the last.
Its moot anyways, because thats not what triggered Mueller probe.
Everyone, but you, knows what triggered the Mueller fiasco: Hillary lost.
The Professor
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Does anyone remember these words from Hillary Clinton, probably he greatest hypocrite of all times?
“Failure to accept the election results is a direct threat to our democracy”
FLASHBACK VIDEO: Hillary: Failure to Accept Election Results is 'Direct Threat to Democracy'
Never, in the entire history of the Unites States has there ever been such a display of hypocrisy. Hillary and her her Democrat minions have done everything they can imagine both legal and illegal to overturn the results of the 1960 election. They have no honor and no shame. Their only concern is to retain power that enables them to extort billions from special interests, including other governments.
“Failure to accept the election results is a direct threat to our democracy”
FLASHBACK VIDEO: Hillary: Failure to Accept Election Results is 'Direct Threat to Democracy'
Never, in the entire history of the Unites States has there ever been such a display of hypocrisy. Hillary and her her Democrat minions have done everything they can imagine both legal and illegal to overturn the results of the 1960 election. They have no honor and no shame. Their only concern is to retain power that enables them to extort billions from special interests, including other governments.
Psst, that was 70 years ago DarlinToday, of course, the excuse for singing the communist tune, by the Democrat Party, is forced indoctrination in government school. The course they neglected to teach might have begun with Kim Philby.
Philby was a double-agent, outwardly working for British Intelligence, MI6, their version of our CIA, but actually an ideological communist who worked for Russia. Philby was one of a number of British agents who leaned Left, and served Stalin.
BTW, another college-bred communist, who also worked for British MI6, and actually followed Philby’s model, has roiled American politics for nearly a decade: Christopher Steele.
3. [Supposed author of the dossier,] Steele confirmed socialist” in college at Oxford when he was hired by MI6, another point of suspicion for someone who would be dispatched to Moscow as a spy and later serve as head of the Russian desk at MI6, all extremely sensitive positions."
The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
Kim Philby did tremendous damage to the West…..Christopher Steele did as well.
Check our Iran contra if you want to be serious
It would be productive to list Steeles charges
Instead of just blabbing generalities.
Pity the repubs were in charge.
War hero Mueller, darn
All times?Does anyone remember these words from Hillary Clinton, probably he greatest hypocrite of all times?
“Failure to accept the election results is a direct threat to our democracy”
FLASHBACK VIDEO: Hillary: Failure to Accept Election Results is 'Direct Threat to Democracy'
Never, in the entire history of the Unites States has there ever been such a display of hypocrisy. Hillary and her her Democrat minions have done everything they can imagine both legal and illegal to overturn the results of the 1960 election. They have no honor and no shame. Their only concern is to retain power that enables them to extort billions from special interests, including other governments.
How about Ben wanting to refuse German immigrants?
They are swarthy, can't speak our language and are taking our jobs.
Sound familiar?
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Couldn't resist the moron could we?The Kremlin was the subject of much of the dossier.Dossier Russian Sources included those that were Kremlin linked.Do you understand the difference between the Russian government (aka Kremlin) and the Russian people?"You do know a conservative group bought the dossier originally?"
That's a lie.
Watch me shred it.
The attempted obfuscation by the Left, the Democrats/Liberals, is to point out that the firs to hire Fusion GPS was a never-Trump website, the Washington Free Beacon.
THEN, Hillary directed $ millions to that company to get the Kremlin to provide the fabrications we call the 'dossier.'
Again?
The Washington Free Beacon used only domestic sources as opposition research.
The Democrats colluded, collaborated, conspired with Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin.....to sink the Trump candidacy.
And the Kremlin was happy to do so: they wanted the candidate that they had a history of bribing to be President.
"Lawyers for the conservative publication Washington Free Beacon informed the House Intelligence Committee Friday that the organization was the original funder for the anti-Trump opposition research project with Fusion GPS.
The Free Beacon funded the project from the fall of 2015 through the spring of 2016, whereupon it withdrew funding and the project was picked up by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.
The original arrangement between the Free Beacon and Fusion GPS involved opposition research into multiple Republican candidates, not just front-runner Donald Trump.
Sources close to the Free Beacon stress that the project, when the Free Beacon funded it, had nothing to do with Russia and did not involve Christopher Steele, the former British spy who gathered anti-Trump dirt in Russia. Steele was retained by Fusion GPS when the project was funded by Democrats, and not in its initial phase, when the Free Beacon was involved." Washington Free Beacon funded original Fusion GPS anti-Trump opposition effort
Soooo....only one entity paid Russia to involve itself in the election.....the DNC.
The incident that gave cover to the Democrats and gave rise to Mueller is the question of collusion with RUSSIA.
Steele was working with Russian people outside of government, such as ex-KGB.
A great explanation is here: They want you to believe Clinton colluded with Russia to defeat herself
Don't forget the FBI who favored Hillary so much that Comey torpedoed her campaign, by announcing re-opening of her email issue one week prior to voting.
But yes, its certainly likely that the Kremlin fed some misinformation to Steele, yet the bulk of it remains corroborated.
"..., yet the bulk of it remains corroborated."
Another lie I will shred:
"After 18 months of steely-eyed investigation, the only parts of the dossier that have been "confirmed" are bland factual statements -- Moscow is a city in Russia -- while the untrue parts are anything having to do with Trump or his associates.
As New York Times national security reporter Matthew Rosenberg explained to MSNBC's easily excited Chris Hayes last March:
"Both journalists and others who had copies of it for a long time have not been able to report much of it out. We've heard that, you know, the FBI and the Intelligence Community believe about 30 percent of it may be accurate, but most of that 30 percent, if not all, has been non-Trump stuff."
February 7, 2018 - CARTER PAGE: AGENT 000
“Not one claim concerning Trump in the Steele Dossier has ever been verified by the FBI, according to Andrew McCabe himself in recent testimony to the House Intelligence Committee. The only confirmed fact is unsurprising: former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page traveled to Moscow on his own dime and met with various Russians—all perfectly legal.
Comey and then-CIA Director John Brennan laundered the Steele Dossier through the U.S. intelligence community to give it an aura of credibility and get it to the press. It was also used by the FBI and senior DOJ officials to secure wiretap warrants from a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court. Then its contents, via court-authorized FISA warrants, were used to justify the illegal unmasking of the identities of wiretapped Trump officials.”
The Politicization of the FBI
“Agents did not believe that either the source or Mr. Steele was deliberately inventing things, according to the former official. How the dossier ended up loaded with dubious or exaggerated details remains uncertain, but the document may be the result of a high-stakes game of telephone, in which rumors and hearsay were passed from source to source.” Mueller Report Likely to Renew Scrutiny of Steele Dossier
The purpose was to
a. sink Trump
b. elect Hillary
c. influence morons like you.
So a 10 year Moscow mi6 guy is wrong?
I thought nothing said had been proven wrong.
Maybe we should list his actual claims/points.
I'll try to wade through your message
"So a 10 year Moscow mi6 guy is wrong?"
Did you mean life-long communist?
1. [Supposed author of the dossier,] Steele was a “confirmed socialist” in college at Oxford when he was hired by MI6, another point of suspicion for someone who would be dispatched to Moscow as a spy and later serve as head of the Russian desk at MI6, all extremely sensitive positions." The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
2.. Christopher Steele, Hillary's employee, got the 'dossier' via
Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch linked to Vladimir Putin, according to a new report.
CHRISTOPHER STEELE REPORTEDLY WORKED FOR SANCTIONED RUSSIAN OLIGARCH
Christopher Steele Reportedly Worked For Sanctioned Russian Oligarch
"So a 10 year Moscow mi6 guy is wrong?"
Did you mean the latest iteration of Kim Philby???
3. Here's the quote that should not be overlooked:
Christopher Steele told [the DoJ] he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.”
Here is the question that has never been asked:
Steele is not even an American citizen…..what is behind this hatred of Trump, and his passion to end his chances of becoming President?
To understand Steele’s hatred of Trump, and, alternatively, his love of Hillary Clinton’s candidacy, one need understand who this man is, and his worldview......and it is all about Russia- the country, their aim for world domination, who they bribed and why Trump is an obstacle to this.
Kim Philby did tremendous damage to the West…..Christopher Steele did as well.
4. “Secret wartime documents passed by a British double agent to his Soviet handlers have been made public for the first time at a Moscow exhibition dedicated to the spy’s career.
Kim Philby was the most notorious of the “Cambridge five”, British communists who spied for Moscow and evaded suspicion for years due to their upper-class credentials.
He worked for the Soviet Union from the 1930s onwards and was unmasked in 1963. During his years working for British intelligence as a double agent, he passed hundreds of sensitive documents to the Russians.
One, dated 31 July 1944, is a record of a cable from the Japanese ambassador in Venice to the foreign minister in Tokyo, and recounts a meeting the ambassador had with Benito Mussolini, in which the Italian leader spoke of a visit to Germany to meet Adolf Hitler on 20 July, the day an assassination plot against the Nazi leader failed.”
Documents that Kim Philby passed to USSR on display for first time
It is interesting to conjecture as to why so many became communists during the first half of the 20th century.
Far harder is to justify those who cling to the evil doctrines at this late date.
5. “POLL: Democrats More Positive About Socialism Than Capitalism”
POLL: Democrats More Positive About Socialism Than Capitalism
So, what's this I hear....you're changing your avi to "Moron"???
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So why did comey publish anti Hillary texts that did her in?None of that relates to the dossier being public knowledge during campaign.The October 19th 2016 date refers to FISA application on Carter Page.I used to think you dopes were playing dumb......
The dossier was issued on Oct. 19, 2016, according to reporting this week from The Post.
We do know one element contained in it. The Post first reported on the warrant (known as a FISA warrant, short for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) in April. "
Analysis | What we know about the warrant to surveil Carter Page
"...in April 2016, Marc Elias — a top Democratic campaign lawyer — retained Fusion GPS through his firm of Perkins Coie on behalf of both Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Perkins Coie, at Elias’s behest and with the bills ultimately paid by Clinton and the DNC, continued to fund Fusion’s work through the end of October 2016, though the people involved say that neither the campaign nor the DNC was aware of the details of Fusion’s work."
Steele’s dossier circulated in the media during the fall of 2016..."
The Steele dossier on Trump and Russia, explained
Clearly, the dossier is contemporary with the Left/FBI attack on Trump associates.
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
This (as always) is done in secret and isn't publicly known.
The dossier was only made public after Trump assumed office, by buzzfeed. About a month after Trump was swornin.
"...the memo states that then-deputy director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, quote, testified before the committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISA court without the Steele dossier information? Democrats say he never said that, did he?
NUNES: Yes. I mean, it’s a summation of a long interview. And that is definitely what he said. Not to mention, we have other witnesses who said very similar things. So, the fact of the matter is, the main things that were used to go out and get this warrant was the dossier and the story that corroborated the dossier.
Nunes on Memo: This Is About FBI Using Oppo Research To Get FISA Warrant On Trump Campaign
3. Even when the story blew up:
"FBI Director James Comey has been caught going around to secret Congressional briefings in “recent weeks” touting the lurid fake “Trump dossier.” He has been claiming that it is a major foundation of the FBI’s investigation of purported Russian collusion with Trump to interfere in the election—months after theFBI had already assessed the “dossier” as non-credible."
The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
"Each FISA application — the original one in October 2016, and the three renewals at 90-day intervals — is labeled "VERIFIED APPLICATION" (bold caps in original). And each one makes this breathtaking representation:
'The FBI has reviewed this verified application for accuracy in accordance with its April 5, 2001 procedures, which include sending a copy of the draft to the appropriate field office(s).'
In reality, the applications were never verified for accuracy."
McCarthy concludes that the FBI was "at best, being hyper-technical, and thus misleading."
So, after all the spinning, these are the undisputed facts: The FBI went to court to get a wiretap on a U.S. citizen it claimed was a Russian agent. It based this charge mainly on an uncorroborated, salacious document financed by the Clinton campaign. It failed to clearly disclose the funding source. Nor did it reveal that it had independently corroborated any of its claims."
At Best, The FISA Application Shows FBI Misled The Court To Wiretap Trump Campaign
Why are you afraid to answer this query?
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
All that stuff happened in secret.
As far as the FISA warrants: were renewed three more times after the initial application. Each renewal included more evidence than the last.
Its moot anyways, because thats not what triggered Mueller probe.
Everyone, but you, knows what triggered the Mueller fiasco: Hillary lost.
No anti Donald material?
So simple even a dunce like you should be able to understand it:
a. Comey goes public with a huge list of things Hillary did
b. Then he pulls the rug out and claims no prosecutor would indict......a lie.
c. "Thanks to the efforts of Judicial Watch to secure documents through the Freedom of Information Act, we now know that Comey was already drafting a letter exonerating Clinton in May 2016—prior to interviewing more than a dozen major witnesses. We also know that the FBI’s reaction to the impropriety of the tarmac meeting was not disgust, but rather anger at the person who leaked the fact of the meeting. “We need to find that guy” and bring him before a supervisor, stated one (name redacted) FBI agent. Another argued that the source should be banned from working security details. Not one email expressed concern over the meeting. An FBI director who truly had his trust shaken would have questioned the members of Lynch’s FBI security detail for the Arizona trip about how the meeting came to be. Comey didn’t bother.” The Politicization of the FBI
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The October 19th 2016 date refers to FISA application on Carter Page.How could the dossier be used to help Hillary when nobody knew about the dossier during the campaign?"..., yet the bulk of it remains corroborated."
Another lie I will shred:
"After 18 months of steely-eyed investigation, the only parts of the dossier that have been "confirmed" are bland factual statements -- Moscow is a city in Russia -- while the untrue parts are anything having to do with Trump or his associates.
As New York Times national security reporter Matthew Rosenberg explained to MSNBC's easily excited Chris Hayes last March:
"Both journalists and others who had copies of it for a long time have not been able to report much of it out. We've heard that, you know, the FBI and the Intelligence Community believe about 30 percent of it may be accurate, but most of that 30 percent, if not all, has been non-Trump stuff."
February 7, 2018 - CARTER PAGE: AGENT 000
“Not one claim concerning Trump in the Steele Dossier has ever been verified by the FBI, according to Andrew McCabe himself in recent testimony to the House Intelligence Committee. The only confirmed fact is unsurprising: former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page traveled to Moscow on his own dime and met with various Russians—all perfectly legal.
Comey and then-CIA Director John Brennan laundered the Steele Dossier through the U.S. intelligence community to give it an aura of credibility and get it to the press. It was also used by the FBI and senior DOJ officials to secure wiretap warrants from a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court. Then its contents, via court-authorized FISA warrants, were used to justify the illegal unmasking of the identities of wiretapped Trump officials.”
The Politicization of the FBI
“Agents did not believe that either the source or Mr. Steele was deliberately inventing things, according to the former official. How the dossier ended up loaded with dubious or exaggerated details remains uncertain, but the document may be the result of a high-stakes game of telephone, in which rumors and hearsay were passed from source to source.” Mueller Report Likely to Renew Scrutiny of Steele Dossier
The purpose was to
a. sink Trump
b. elect Hillary
c. influence morons like you.
I used to think you dopes were playing dumb......
The dossier was issued on Oct. 19, 2016, according to reporting this week from The Post.
We do know one element contained in it. The Post first reported on the warrant (known as a FISA warrant, short for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) in April. "
Analysis | What we know about the warrant to surveil Carter Page
"...in April 2016, Marc Elias — a top Democratic campaign lawyer — retained Fusion GPS through his firm of Perkins Coie on behalf of both Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Perkins Coie, at Elias’s behest and with the bills ultimately paid by Clinton and the DNC, continued to fund Fusion’s work through the end of October 2016, though the people involved say that neither the campaign nor the DNC was aware of the details of Fusion’s work."
Steele’s dossier circulated in the media during the fall of 2016..."
The Steele dossier on Trump and Russia, explained
Clearly, the dossier is contemporary with the Left/FBI attack on Trump associates.
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
This (as always) is done in secret and isn't publicly known.
The dossier was only made public after Trump assumed office, by buzzfeed. About a month after Trump was swornin.
"...the memo states that then-deputy director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, quote, testified before the committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISA court without the Steele dossier information? Democrats say he never said that, did he?
NUNES: Yes. I mean, it’s a summation of a long interview. And that is definitely what he said. Not to mention, we have other witnesses who said very similar things. So, the fact of the matter is, the main things that were used to go out and get this warrant was the dossier and the story that corroborated the dossier.
Nunes on Memo: This Is About FBI Using Oppo Research To Get FISA Warrant On Trump Campaign
3. Even when the story blew up:
"FBI Director James Comey has been caught going around to secret Congressional briefings in “recent weeks” touting the lurid fake “Trump dossier.” He has been claiming that it is a major foundation of the FBI’s investigation of purported Russian collusion with Trump to interfere in the election—months after theFBI had already assessed the “dossier” as non-credible."
The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
"Each FISA application — the original one in October 2016, and the three renewals at 90-day intervals — is labeled "VERIFIED APPLICATION" (bold caps in original). And each one makes this breathtaking representation:
'The FBI has reviewed this verified application for accuracy in accordance with its April 5, 2001 procedures, which include sending a copy of the draft to the appropriate field office(s).'
In reality, the applications were never verified for accuracy."
McCarthy concludes that the FBI was "at best, being hyper-technical, and thus misleading."
So, after all the spinning, these are the undisputed facts: The FBI went to court to get a wiretap on a U.S. citizen it claimed was a Russian agent. It based this charge mainly on an uncorroborated, salacious document financed by the Clinton campaign. It failed to clearly disclose the funding source. Nor did it reveal that it had independently corroborated any of its claims."
At Best, The FISA Application Shows FBI Misled The Court To Wiretap Trump Campaign
Why are you afraid to answer this query?
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
Why are you preoccupied with moron?
Dead giveaway for zero college debating skills.
Insult and you lose
"Dead giveaway for zero college debating skills."
a. I don't debate....I simply prove why I'm right
b. ....and I rip you a new one each and every time
c. Better hurry....someone else may scoop up that avi "Moron."
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Kim Philly???Do you understand the difference between the Russian government (aka Kremlin) and the Russian people?You have actual link?The Dossier claimed it's sources were linked to the Kremlin, when the Dossier was used by Obama and the Intelligence Community to illegally spy on Trump, this claim was given weight. Now that they want to impeach Trump for even mentioning to Ukraine that they should follow up on the obvious corruption of Biden family, the Left has reversed itself.
You fool no one!
You do know a conservative group bought the dossier originally?
"You do know a conservative group bought the dossier originally?"
That's a lie.
Watch me shred it.
The attempted obfuscation by the Left, the Democrats/Liberals, is to point out that the firs to hire Fusion GPS was a never-Trump website, the Washington Free Beacon.
THEN, Hillary directed $ millions to that company to get the Kremlin to provide the fabrications we call the 'dossier.'
Again?
The Washington Free Beacon used only domestic sources as opposition research.
The Democrats colluded, collaborated, conspired with Moscow, the Kremlin, Putin.....to sink the Trump candidacy.
And the Kremlin was happy to do so: they wanted the candidate that they had a history of bribing to be President.
"Lawyers for the conservative publication Washington Free Beacon informed the House Intelligence Committee Friday that the organization was the original funder for the anti-Trump opposition research project with Fusion GPS.
The Free Beacon funded the project from the fall of 2015 through the spring of 2016, whereupon it withdrew funding and the project was picked up by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.
The original arrangement between the Free Beacon and Fusion GPS involved opposition research into multiple Republican candidates, not just front-runner Donald Trump.
Sources close to the Free Beacon stress that the project, when the Free Beacon funded it, had nothing to do with Russia and did not involve Christopher Steele, the former British spy who gathered anti-Trump dirt in Russia. Steele was retained by Fusion GPS when the project was funded by Democrats, and not in its initial phase, when the Free Beacon was involved." Washington Free Beacon funded original Fusion GPS anti-Trump opposition effort
Soooo....only one entity paid Russia to involve itself in the election.....the DNC.
The incident that gave cover to the Democrats and gave rise to Mueller is the question of collusion with RUSSIA.
Steele was working with Russian people outside of government, such as ex-KGB.
A great explanation is here: They want you to believe Clinton colluded with Russia to defeat herself
Don't forget the FBI who favored Hillary so much that Comey torpedoed her campaign, by announcing re-opening of her email issue one week prior to voting.
No, dunce.....Steele was the latest version of Soviet spy in MI6, Kim Philby, who did Putin's bidding.
1. [Supposed author of the dossier,] Steele was a “confirmed socialist” in college at Oxford when he was hired by MI6, another point of suspicion for someone who would be dispatched to Moscow as a spy and later serve as head of the Russian desk at MI6, all extremely sensitive positions." The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
2.. Christopher Steele, Hillary's employee, got the 'dossier' via
Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch linked to Vladimir Putin, according to a new report.
CHRISTOPHER STEELE REPORTEDLY WORKED FOR SANCTIONED RUSSIAN OLIGARCH
Christopher Steele Reportedly Worked For Sanctioned Russian Oligarch
3. Russia is a dictatorship.
Nothing emanates from Moscow without Putin's imprimatur....
The 'information' in the infamous 'dossier' came from Russia.
Now.....if Putin wanted Trump to win.......would there have ever.......ever.....been a dossier?????
QED......the candidate of Vladimir Putin was Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.
4. If any collusion occurred, it was through Democrats, the only folks for whom we have actual evidence of collusion.
I think there's been a few since him
Yup....up to and including Christopher Steele, pal of Hillary.
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It was started by Papadopoulos bragging to an Australian diplomat, and then Trump firing Comey.None of that relates to the dossier being public knowledge during campaign.The October 19th 2016 date refers to FISA application on Carter Page.I used to think you dopes were playing dumb......
The dossier was issued on Oct. 19, 2016, according to reporting this week from The Post.
We do know one element contained in it. The Post first reported on the warrant (known as a FISA warrant, short for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) in April. "
Analysis | What we know about the warrant to surveil Carter Page
"...in April 2016, Marc Elias — a top Democratic campaign lawyer — retained Fusion GPS through his firm of Perkins Coie on behalf of both Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Perkins Coie, at Elias’s behest and with the bills ultimately paid by Clinton and the DNC, continued to fund Fusion’s work through the end of October 2016, though the people involved say that neither the campaign nor the DNC was aware of the details of Fusion’s work."
Steele’s dossier circulated in the media during the fall of 2016..."
The Steele dossier on Trump and Russia, explained
Clearly, the dossier is contemporary with the Left/FBI attack on Trump associates.
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
This (as always) is done in secret and isn't publicly known.
The dossier was only made public after Trump assumed office, by buzzfeed. About a month after Trump was swornin.
"...the memo states that then-deputy director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, quote, testified before the committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISA court without the Steele dossier information? Democrats say he never said that, did he?
NUNES: Yes. I mean, it’s a summation of a long interview. And that is definitely what he said. Not to mention, we have other witnesses who said very similar things. So, the fact of the matter is, the main things that were used to go out and get this warrant was the dossier and the story that corroborated the dossier.
Nunes on Memo: This Is About FBI Using Oppo Research To Get FISA Warrant On Trump Campaign
3. Even when the story blew up:
"FBI Director James Comey has been caught going around to secret Congressional briefings in “recent weeks” touting the lurid fake “Trump dossier.” He has been claiming that it is a major foundation of the FBI’s investigation of purported Russian collusion with Trump to interfere in the election—months after theFBI had already assessed the “dossier” as non-credible."
The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
"Each FISA application — the original one in October 2016, and the three renewals at 90-day intervals — is labeled "VERIFIED APPLICATION" (bold caps in original). And each one makes this breathtaking representation:
'The FBI has reviewed this verified application for accuracy in accordance with its April 5, 2001 procedures, which include sending a copy of the draft to the appropriate field office(s).'
In reality, the applications were never verified for accuracy."
McCarthy concludes that the FBI was "at best, being hyper-technical, and thus misleading."
So, after all the spinning, these are the undisputed facts: The FBI went to court to get a wiretap on a U.S. citizen it claimed was a Russian agent. It based this charge mainly on an uncorroborated, salacious document financed by the Clinton campaign. It failed to clearly disclose the funding source. Nor did it reveal that it had independently corroborated any of its claims."
At Best, The FISA Application Shows FBI Misled The Court To Wiretap Trump Campaign
Why are you afraid to answer this query?
Who was the dossier aimed AGAINST, you moron?????
All that stuff happened in secret.
As far as the FISA warrants: were renewed three more times after the initial application. Each renewal included more evidence than the last.
Its moot anyways, because thats not what triggered Mueller probe.
Everyone, but you, knows what triggered the Mueller fiasco: Hillary lost.
No, you fool.....the Australian diplomat was a Clinton apparatchik.
“They started by telling the story of Alexander Downer, an Australian diplomat, as having remembered a bar conversation with George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign. But how did the FBI know they should talk to him? That’s left out of their narrative. Downer’s signature appears on a $25 million contribution to the Clinton Foundation. You don’t need much imagination to figure that he was close with Clinton Foundation operatives who relayed information to the State Department, which then called the FBI to complete the loop. This wasn’t intelligence. It was likely opposition research from the start.”
Former Clinton Pollster Calls For End to the Mueller 'Partisan Inquisition'
“Australian diplomat whose tip prompted FBI’s Russia-probe has tie to Clintons
The Australian diplomat whose tip in 2016 prompted the Russia-Trump investigation previously arranged one of the largest foreign donations to Bill and Hillary Clinton’s charitable efforts, documents show.
Former Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer’s role in securing $25 million in aid from his country to help the Clinton Foundation fight AIDS is chronicled in decade-old government memos archived on the Australian foreign ministry’s website.
Downer, now Australia’s ambassador to London, provided the account of a conversation with Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos at a London bar in 2016 that became the official reason the FBI opened the Russia counterintelligence probe.
But lawmakers say the FBI didn’t tell Congress about Downer’s prior connection to the Clinton Foundation. Republicans say they are concerned the new information means nearly all of the early evidence the FBI used to justify its election-year probe of Trump came from sources supportive of the Clintons, including the controversial Steele dossier.
“The Clintons’ tentacles go everywhere. So, that’s why it’s important,” said Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) chairman of a House Oversight and Government Reform subcommittee that has been taking an increasingly visible role defending the Trump administration in the Russia probe. “We continue to get new information every week it seems that sort of underscores the fact that the FBI hasn’t been square with us.”
Spokesman for the FBI and Russia special counsel Robert Mueller declined comment.
…. lawmakers say the FBI didn’t tell Congress about Downer’s prior connection to the Clinton Foundation. Republicans say they are concerned the new information means nearly all of the early evidence the FBI used to justify its election-year probe of Trump came from sources supportive of the Clintons, including the controversial Steele dossier.
Australian diplomat whose tip prompted FBI’s Russia-probe has tie to Clintons
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Psst, that was 70 years ago DarlinToday, of course, the excuse for singing the communist tune, by the Democrat Party, is forced indoctrination in government school. The course they neglected to teach might have begun with Kim Philby.
Philby was a double-agent, outwardly working for British Intelligence, MI6, their version of our CIA, but actually an ideological communist who worked for Russia. Philby was one of a number of British agents who leaned Left, and served Stalin.
BTW, another college-bred communist, who also worked for British MI6, and actually followed Philby’s model, has roiled American politics for nearly a decade: Christopher Steele.
3. [Supposed author of the dossier,] Steele confirmed socialist” in college at Oxford when he was hired by MI6, another point of suspicion for someone who would be dispatched to Moscow as a spy and later serve as head of the Russian desk at MI6, all extremely sensitive positions."
The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
Kim Philby did tremendous damage to the West…..Christopher Steele did as well.
Check our Iran contra if you want to be serious
It would be productive to list Steeles charges
Instead of just blabbing generalities.
Pity the repubs were in charge.
War hero Mueller, darn
"Psst, that was 70 years ago Darlin"
America was born 243 years ago, yet your side is still trying to destroy it.
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Psst, that was 70 years ago DarlinToday, of course, the excuse for singing the communist tune, by the Democrat Party, is forced indoctrination in government school. The course they neglected to teach might have begun with Kim Philby.
Philby was a double-agent, outwardly working for British Intelligence, MI6, their version of our CIA, but actually an ideological communist who worked for Russia. Philby was one of a number of British agents who leaned Left, and served Stalin.
BTW, another college-bred communist, who also worked for British MI6, and actually followed Philby’s model, has roiled American politics for nearly a decade: Christopher Steele.
3. [Supposed author of the dossier,] Steele confirmed socialist” in college at Oxford when he was hired by MI6, another point of suspicion for someone who would be dispatched to Moscow as a spy and later serve as head of the Russian desk at MI6, all extremely sensitive positions."
The Final Truth about the “Trump Dossier”
Kim Philby did tremendous damage to the West…..Christopher Steele did as well.
Check our Iran contra if you want to be serious
It would be productive to list Steeles charges
Instead of just blabbing generalities.
Pity the repubs were in charge.
War hero Mueller, darn
Wow....quite an effort wasted in trying to change the subject.
Even you must realize what a beating you've taken.
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1.“In the 1930s the Soviet Union recruited almost 40 Cambridge University students as spies during a time when many British and American intellectuals were challenging the politics and economics of the West. Many disillusioned students joined the so-called Communist International, or Comintern, an organization that billed itself as a means to unite Communists of all stripes from around the world but was actually a mechanism to promote a purely Soviet brand of Communism.
Though many of the Cambridge recruitees engaged extensively in espionage for years after they left Cambridge, only Harold "Kim" Philby, Donald Maclean, and Guy Burgess—the so-called "Cambridge Three"—succeeded in securing both British and American secrets at the highest levels of government. They gained access to information about U.S. counterespionage efforts, plans for atomic bomb production, and military strategies during the Korean War and were able to pass this information on to the Soviets.
In 1949 Philby was given a position in Washington, D.C. as the British intelligence liaison to the CIA and FBI, a highly sensitive position in which he would have access to information about most U.S. intelligence operations. Burgess and Maclean also held top positions in the U.S., both of them at the British Embassy.”
NOVA Online | Secrets, Lies, and Atomic Spies | Harold "Kim" Philby and the Cambridge Three
2.The argument could be made that the Depression turned many intellectuals away from capitalism…but whence the desire to betray their country???
And more to the point….how is it that over half a century later, American college grads are infused with the same sort of views???
. ".... the denizens of the Deep State that everyone in Washington likes to tell us doesn’t exist....made up of thousands of similarly credentialed, remarkably “un-diverse” civil servants and political appointees who saw themselves promoted rapidly during the eight years of the Obama administration. The appointees have left, but make no mistake — the progressive civil servants remain.
The present culture of the intelligence community and the shameless political shenanigans of the Obama administration combined to create this disaster. ....CIA leadership famously stood up to the Nixon administration when asked to domestically spy on Justice during Watergate, for example.
It seems that today we lack the character and the competence to ensure that the intelligence community honors the trust of the American people."
How the intel community was turned into a political weapon against President Trump
3. Thanks to the school system being under occupation by the Democrats/Progressives/Liberals/Communists, we see millions of potential Kim Philbys and Christopher Steeles being turned out like widgets from the production line.
Their target is America, American values and traditions, and American Presidents.
Though many of the Cambridge recruitees engaged extensively in espionage for years after they left Cambridge, only Harold "Kim" Philby, Donald Maclean, and Guy Burgess—the so-called "Cambridge Three"—succeeded in securing both British and American secrets at the highest levels of government. They gained access to information about U.S. counterespionage efforts, plans for atomic bomb production, and military strategies during the Korean War and were able to pass this information on to the Soviets.
In 1949 Philby was given a position in Washington, D.C. as the British intelligence liaison to the CIA and FBI, a highly sensitive position in which he would have access to information about most U.S. intelligence operations. Burgess and Maclean also held top positions in the U.S., both of them at the British Embassy.”
NOVA Online | Secrets, Lies, and Atomic Spies | Harold "Kim" Philby and the Cambridge Three
2.The argument could be made that the Depression turned many intellectuals away from capitalism…but whence the desire to betray their country???
And more to the point….how is it that over half a century later, American college grads are infused with the same sort of views???
. ".... the denizens of the Deep State that everyone in Washington likes to tell us doesn’t exist....made up of thousands of similarly credentialed, remarkably “un-diverse” civil servants and political appointees who saw themselves promoted rapidly during the eight years of the Obama administration. The appointees have left, but make no mistake — the progressive civil servants remain.
The present culture of the intelligence community and the shameless political shenanigans of the Obama administration combined to create this disaster. ....CIA leadership famously stood up to the Nixon administration when asked to domestically spy on Justice during Watergate, for example.
It seems that today we lack the character and the competence to ensure that the intelligence community honors the trust of the American people."
How the intel community was turned into a political weapon against President Trump
3. Thanks to the school system being under occupation by the Democrats/Progressives/Liberals/Communists, we see millions of potential Kim Philbys and Christopher Steeles being turned out like widgets from the production line.
Their target is America, American values and traditions, and American Presidents.
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1.“In the 1930s the Soviet Union recruited almost 40 Cambridge University students as spies during a time when many British and American intellectuals were challenging the politics and economics of the West. Many disillusioned students joined the so-called Communist International, or Comintern, an organization that billed itself as a means to unite Communists of all stripes from around the world but was actually a mechanism to promote a purely Soviet brand of Communism.
Though many of the Cambridge recruitees engaged extensively in espionage for years after they left Cambridge, only Harold "Kim" Philby, Donald Maclean, and Guy Burgess—the so-called "Cambridge Three"—succeeded in securing both British and American secrets at the highest levels of government. They gained access to information about U.S. counterespionage efforts, plans for atomic bomb production, and military strategies during the Korean War and were able to pass this information on to the Soviets.
In 1949 Philby was given a position in Washington, D.C. as the British intelligence liaison to the CIA and FBI, a highly sensitive position in which he would have access to information about most U.S. intelligence operations. Burgess and Maclean also held top positions in the U.S., both of them at the British Embassy.”
NOVA Online | Secrets, Lies, and Atomic Spies | Harold "Kim" Philby and the Cambridge Three
2.The argument could be made that the Depression turned many intellectuals away from capitalism…but whence the desire to betray their country???
And more to the point….how is it that over half a century later, American college grads are infused with the same sort of views???
. ".... the denizens of the Deep State that everyone in Washington likes to tell us doesn’t exist....made up of thousands of similarly credentialed, remarkably “un-diverse” civil servants and political appointees who saw themselves promoted rapidly during the eight years of the Obama administration. The appointees have left, but make no mistake — the progressive civil servants remain.
The present culture of the intelligence community and the shameless political shenanigans of the Obama administration combined to create this disaster. ....CIA leadership famously stood up to the Nixon administration when asked to domestically spy on Justice during Watergate, for example.
It seems that today we lack the character and the competence to ensure that the intelligence community honors the trust of the American people."
How the intel community was turned into a political weapon against President Trump
3. Thanks to the school system being under occupation by the Democrats/Progressives/Liberals/Communists, we see millions of potential Kim Philbys and Christopher Steeles being turned out like widgets from the production line.
Their target is America, American values and traditions, and American Presidents.
The cowardly Mueller disgraced himself, but there's no way the corruption of the deep state can ever be rooted out as long as the bulk of the MSM are as corrupt and contemptuous of natural and constitutional law, and the rights of the American people as the bureaucracy. The bureaucracy and the MSM are the enemy of the American people!
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