The Disreputable Robert Mueller

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    Robert Mueller is an honorable man….I mean that in the same way Antony meant this about Brutus: “…for Brutus is an honorable man; they are all honorable men…”


    While the stain is rapidly spreading over Comey, Rosenstein, McCabe, Strzok, Lynch,….and Obama, all of them are snakes, and are covered by that same quote.




    1.Right off the top, Mueller has a history with Trump that should have required him to recuse himself, and refuse the special counsel position



    “Trump argued that Mueller had three conflicts of interest preventing him from leading a fully unbiased investigation, according to the New York Times. The first two conflicts being Mueller’s previous work for a law firm that represented Jared Kushner; the second being Mueller interviewing to return for a second stint as FBI director immediately before being appointed as special counsel in May.

    But arguably the most eye-catching alleged conflict of interest involves a purported dispute between Mueller and the Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Virginia, in October 2011. President Trump claimed Mueller resigned his membership at the club due to the alleged disagreement over fees and believes he still holds a grudge against him over the matter.

    Mueller, who was FBI director at the time of the alleged dispute, denied the incident and any potential hard feelings.

    “Mr. Mueller left the club in October 2011 without dispute,” special counsel spokesman Joshua Stueve said in July.”
    Why did Mueller quit Trump’s golf club? Dispute reportedly key to president’s desire to fire special counsel




    2. Unless Mueller is a total fool, he knew from day one that there was no substance to the collusion charges. Yet…..he ruined lives by pretending.


    3. Stocking his ‘team’ with Clinton donors and anti-Trump partisans proves what he was about.


    4. Although Mueller had right to look into anything that arises in connection with the alleged events, he refused to direct investigation toward Clinton…gave immunity.





    The man signed on to the attempted…..failed…..coup to depose a duly elected President.


    No honor or repute of any sort should ever be attached to this man.
     
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    His good buddies at the FBI and DOJ will roll over on him.
     
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    Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, willie.....I wanna see charges!
     
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    Those conflicts are pretty weak.

    As a card-carrying member of the Great RIght-Wing Conspiracy, I find very little to complain about with Mueller. The letter creating the position was more broad than it should have been, but with those marching orders he did was he was told to do. He is certainly to be commended for keeping their work confidential for that long period of time - something that every other relevant deliberative body over the past three years has failed to do.

    I dare say it would be difficult to find a dozen qualified lawyers in Washington who do not think Trump is a total dick, so complaints about the political inclinations of the staff lawyers are also a bit strained.

    And truly, how can you complain about his work product? The people he indicted were clearly guilty of crimes, and those for whom he could not establish a Prima Facia case were let off without indictment. Congress may use some of his work product to try to embarrass Trump and his posse, but you can't lay that on Mueller.

    Mueller is not "disreputable" by any rational measure. Indeed, you look like the mirror image of those attacking Barr right now.
     
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    If he was so partisan and corrupt, you'd think he'd have been able to frame the Pres. for collusion but he blew it (assuming Barr's summary is accurate). Obviously, he is also incompetent.
     
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    Yes, he is.

    He destroyed lives when he KNEW there was no collusion.

    He threatened Flynn's Son, he bankrupted him and several other Men who actually know what Honor is.

    Mueller was, and still is, an apparatchik. A hired gun. A mercenary POS.

    The people that work in the 'Justice' Department are interested in anything but...

    They are careerists. Ladder-climbers. Cold-Blooded sharks with dead eyes. Assassins.

    They care nothing for Justice, guilt or innocence.

    I do not believe any of them do. They're all Lawyers. And lawyers have the same 'honor' as a cold-blooded killer.
     
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    "Those conflicts are pretty weak.
    As a card-carrying member of the Great RIght-Wing Conspiracy, I find very little to complain about with Mueller."


    You couldn't be more wrong.
    You could try to be, but you wouldn't be successful

    Or, can you explain the glaring partiality herein: (I bet you can't)-


    1.The Hillary campaign paid for an anti-Trump Russian creation called the dossier: they used law firm Perkins Coie to funnel money to GPS Fusion and Christopher Steele


    2. The Hillary campaign screamed that they had been hacked, but refused to allow any government agencies to inspect the supposedly hacked servers

    3. The FBI admitted that they knew the dossier was fake from the start, but used it to get a FISA warrant to surveil Trump and associates

    4. A secret cabal at the highest levels of the FBI and the DoJ worked with GPS Fusion to undermine the Trump campaign...before and after the election.

    5. FBI found classified data on Huma and Anthony Weiner’s laptop….so they gave them a pass

    6. The FBI decided no charges against Hillary before they interviewed her…..with no record kept of the interview, and not under oath.

    7. Both Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills were found to be lying to the FBI….but given a pass ...and allowed to keep their laptops, and destroy any evidence on same

    8. FBI agents Strzok and Page and McCabe talked over a plan to overturn the election….an ‘insurance policy’

    9. Loretta Lynch with Comey’s acquiescence, worked to benefit Hillary’s campaign

    10. Obama knew about Hillary’s use of unsecured emails, as he conversed with her on same…kept his name out of the reports.

    11. BTW…..Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein were all government officials when Hillary received the $145 million bribe for the sale of our uranium.

    ....Robert Mueller was the FBI Director during the time of the Russian uranium probe, and so was his successor James Comey who took over in 2013 as the FBI was still developing the case. Rod Rosenstein, then-U.S. Attorney....


    12. The FBI offered to pay Christopher Steele if he could corroborate the dossier….so he told Yahoo New’s Michael Isikoff about the dossier, had him print the information….then told the FBI that Isikoff independently discovered the “facts”…

    Steele admitted, in a British court, that he leaked the material to Yahoo. September 23 Yahoo ran the story.

    The FBI took the Isikoff Yahoo story to the FISA court to get the warrant….then fired Steele for sharing it with news outlets.

    13. After the FBI fired Steele, he continued to confer with Bruce Ohr and the DoJ…and Rod Rosestein and Sally Yates.

    In September of 2016, this was Steele’s statement to Bruce Ohr that he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.”


    14. And in another stunning revelation, the memo asserts that Justice Department official Bruce Ohr was used to pass information from the author of the dossier, Christopher Steele, to the DOJ.
    Ohr’s wife, Nellie Ohr, worked at the time for Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm research firm that commissioned the dossier. Bruce Ohr, who worked closely with Deputy Attorney Generals Sally Yates and Rod Rosenstein, passed his wife’s opposition research on Trump to the FBI, the memo says.


    15. Fired by the FBI as untrustworthy, Steele is maintained by the DoJ as a contact, and all the while, Bruce Ohr’s wife is drawing a salary from the group Hillary hired to produce the dossier….GPS Fusion.

    Bruce Ohr’s wife’s connections to Hillary’s paid dossier-producers, GPS Fusion, was never disclosed to the FISA court.

    16. Not Hillary Clinton’s Campaign, nor the DNC, nor Christopher Steel, nor Fusion GPS, nor Bruce Ohr’s wife, the roles of none of these participants in the creation of the dossier….not a one was revealed to the FISA court.

    17. The memo also says that the FBI’s deputy director, Andrew McCabe, told Congress that a FISA warrant against the campaign adviser, Carter Page, would not have been granted without use of the dossier. That despite the FBI later determining that very little of the Democrat-funded document was corroborated


    18. Let’s compare the zealous and very aggressive action by Mueller against Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos, and Carter Page with the immunity and passes given above…..

    19..The memo notes that the Papadopoulos information “triggered” the FBI investigation into possible Trump campaign collusion.
    It says that there is no evidence that Page and Papadopoulos engaged in a conspiracy. “
    Spy Warrant Granted Based On Dossier And News Stories Planted By Fusion GPS



    …and lots of evidence of associations of Democrats with the Kremlin….

    …completely different treatment.

    20. And all of the players in on the fix were demanding the Memo not be released….and lied about why it should not be released.





    Take your time.
     
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    Either he has an immunity deal he arranged when he saw the handwriting on the wall, or he heard footsteps, and bailed out.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    You don't have a problem with the FBI/DOJ being used to investigate and release damaging information on the POTUS, while at the same time hiding by way of redactions information damaging to the FBI/DOJ?
     
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