The Dems just don't get it!

It's hard to take you seriously when you state that the ACA was the first time that government got involved in healthcare... :lmao:
The problem is, I didn't say that.

The first time the government got into healthcare, was medicare. And everybody loves that.
 
What you refer to as "calling people names" - the rest of the world refers to as "reality". Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was caught in so many embarrassing lies that the Obama Administration ran her off. Do you realize how bad one has to be for the lying Obama Administration to find one's lies disturbing?!?
Prove that it's a lie, then we'll talk about how disturbing it is.
 
Democrats in this country still don't get the fact that they are not going to win anything until they stop kissing the butt of the same sponsors the Reps are kissing and start acting in concert with the real liberal and progressive movements in this country.

The Crisis within the Democratic Party
In one of the most striking political comebacks in U.S. history, the Republican Party marched in lockstep to victory in the midterm elections and seized control of the House of Representatives and state houses across the nation. Republicans made a battle plan, they disciplined their troops, and the corporations paid for the ammunition.

Unless the Democrats do something drastically differently during the next two years, the rich and powerful will cement their victory around the body of democracy and dump the barrel of freedom into the deep dark waters of cash politics where it will be lost forever.

The biggest reason the Dems are in the position they are in now, is because liberals can see them for what they really are, which is just the flip side of the republican coin. And you're not going to get liberals, progressives or millennials to vote for you until you stop bailing out Wall Street, suppressing constitutional rights, voting for wars of aggression and compromising with the rich and powerful fascists that run this country.

Look at all the protests across this country today, that's not just because people can't stand right wing representatives, it's because YOU DEMS dropped the ball on democracy!
All they have to do is drop all the commie like PC stuff and make themselves great again, a task I"ll concede is hugely greater than making America great again since all that takes is ignoring the PC crowd.
 
Two simple questions for you, Billo...

If that were really true...that the Obama Stimulus created jobs in the Private Sector? Then why did they have to invent that new statistic "jobs created and saved...and why would blue collar workers in the Rust Belt not be so thrilled with all the jobs that Democrats created that they would have turned out in DROVES to vote for more of the same with Hillary Clinton? Why would they vote for a Republican if Barry's Stimulus REALLY created jobs for the Private Sector?
I didn't say he created jobs in the private sector. The private sector wasn't hiring. And when the private sector isn't hiring, the government has to step in and get people back to work.

The economy doesn't care whether it is a private dollar, or a public dollar; all the economy cares about, is spending. 70% of the economy is consumer spending. Putting people back to work, increases spending. The more spending, the more demand. The more demand, the more investing from the private sector. Once the private sector starts investing and hiring increases, then the government can back off let capitalism do what it naturally does.
 
Healthcare is a $2-$3 trillion a year industry.
Ignoring the rest of your astoundingly stupid post - this one little sentence alone here is fall down hilarious. You act like "healthcare" is the name of a corporation such as Microsoft.

When you consider that "healthcare" includes over 5,500 hospitals nationwide, over 15,000 nursing homes, hundreds of thousands of primary care practices, endless physical therapy facilities and practices, and medications - that $2 to $3 trillion per year is shockingly small.

To give you an idea - if one were to divide that $3 trillion by just 15,000 nursing homes nationwide (and there are more than that) it comes out to $200 million a piece. Shockingly small by today's standards (since you're not very bright: to give you an idea, Apple did $47 billion just in the 4th quarter of 2016 alone).

And that doesn't include medications, hospitals, PCP's, PT's etc. You truly are a moron my friend. You can't think beyond the end of your nose.
 
It's hard to take you seriously when you state that the ACA was the first time that government got involved in healthcare... :lmao:
The problem is, I didn't say that.
You did say that - liar! Post #212:
Yeah - thanks to the idiot left-wing hatriotism that you support. Healthcare used to be extremely affordable until you communists got government involved.
You really say the most stupid things.

Healthcare is a $2-$3 trillion a year industry. The ACA was created because healthcare WASN'T affordable, you dumbass!

That is clear as day. I stated that it was affordable until you got government involved (which started in 1967) and you responded with "you say the stupidest stuff - the ACA was created because healthcare WASN'T affordable".

Oops....:lmao:
 
Ignoring the rest of your astoundingly stupid post - this one little sentence alone here is fall down hilarious. You act like "healthcare" is the name of a corporation such as Microsoft.

When you consider that "healthcare" includes over 5,500 hospitals nationwide, over 15,000 nursing homes, hundreds of thousands of primary care practices, endless physical therapy facilities and practices, and medications - that $2 to $3 trillion per year is shockingly small.

To give you an idea - if one were to divide that $3 trillion by just 15,000 nursing homes nationwide (and there are more than that) it comes out to $200 million a piece. Shockingly small by today's standards (since you're not very bright: to give you an idea, Apple did $47 billion just in the 4th quarter of 2016 alone).

And that doesn't include medications, hospitals, PCP's, PT's etc. You truly are a moron my friend. You can't think beyond the end of your nose.
An x-ray costing $400 is obscene. $32,000 for a one night stay in the hospital, is obscene. 51% of all bankruptcies in the country, are due to escalating healthcare costs.
 
An x-ray costing $400 is obscene. $32,000 for a one night stay in the hospital, is obscene. 51% of all bankruptcies in the country, are due to escalating healthcare costs.
I agree. I completely agree with you on that. But why does it cost that much? Why is a simple aspirin $10 in a hospital? Because they have to pass on the cost of the uninsured (and insured but not paying their co-pays and deductibles) on to everyone.

And why? Because of the Dumbocrats communism. Make all of society pay instead of everyone handling their own business.
 
All they have to do is drop all the commie like PC stuff and make themselves great again, a task I"ll concede is hugely greater than making America great again since all that takes is ignoring the PC crowd.
There are no "commies" in government (on either side of the aisle).
good to know, what about the commie like PC
 
You did say that - liar! Post #212:
I said the ACA was created because of ridiculous healthcare costs. I didn't say that was the first time government got into the healthcare industry.

That is clear as day. I stated that it was affordable until you got government involved (which started in 1967) and you responded with "you say the stupidest stuff - the ACA was created because healthcare WASN'T affordable".

Oops....:lmao:
How can they be affordable when the biggest cause of bankruptcies in the US are due to medical expenses?

 
I agree. I completely agree with you on that. But why does it cost that much? Why is a simple aspirin $10 in a hospital? Because they have to pass on the cost of the uninsured (and insured but not paying their co-pays and deductibles) on to everyone.

And why? Because of the Dumbocrats communism. Make all of society pay instead of everyone handling their own business.
The healthcare industry has one of the biggest lobby groups in Washington. Major healthcare companies have been allowed to merge due to the fact that we no longer enforce anti-trust laws. That has reduced competition. Reduced competition, reduces competitive pricing. When companies don't have to make their prices competitive, they go up!
 
How can they be affordable when the biggest cause of bankruptcies in the US are due to medical expenses?
Medical Bills Are the Biggest Cause of US Bankruptcies: Study
Exactly! And was that statistic the case pre-1967? No. No it wasn't. Medical costs weren't an issue when it was all handled in the free market. Healthcare providers had to keep their prices down or they wouldn't have patients (and there was no need to pass off costs from Patient A onto Patient B). That all changed when the government got involved.
 
I agree. I completely agree with you on that. But why does it cost that much? Why is a simple aspirin $10 in a hospital? Because they have to pass on the cost of the uninsured (and insured but not paying their co-pays and deductibles) on to everyone.

And why? Because of the Dumbocrats communism. Make all of society pay instead of everyone handling their own business.
The healthcare industry has one of the biggest lobby groups in Washington. Major healthcare companies have been allowed to merge due to the fact that we no longer enforce anti-trust laws. That has reduced competition. Reduced competition, reduces competitive pricing. When companies don't have to make their prices competitive, they go up!
That's simply not the case at all. You didn't see hospitals merging like this in 1954. It wasn't until government intervention (especially starting with the 1980's and Tip O'Neill) did it become impossible for smaller hospitals to stay in the game.

Government did what it always does: ran businesses out of businesses and ran the industry into the ground. Now everything is outrageous. And what did Obamacare do? It caused an even more drastic spike in healthcare costs. The polar opposite of what they promised.
 
Democrats in this country still don't get the fact that they are not going to win anything until they stop kissing the butt of the same sponsors the Reps are kissing and start acting in concert with the real liberal and progressive movements in this country.

The Crisis within the Democratic Party
In one of the most striking political comebacks in U.S. history, the Republican Party marched in lockstep to victory in the midterm elections and seized control of the House of Representatives and state houses across the nation. Republicans made a battle plan, they disciplined their troops, and the corporations paid for the ammunition.

Unless the Democrats do something drastically differently during the next two years, the rich and powerful will cement their victory around the body of democracy and dump the barrel of freedom into the deep dark waters of cash politics where it will be lost forever.

The biggest reason the Dems are in the position they are in now, is because liberals can see them for what they really are, which is just the flip side of the republican coin. And you're not going to get liberals, progressives or millennials to vote for you until you stop bailing out Wall Street, suppressing constitutional rights, voting for wars of aggression and compromising with the rich and powerful fascists that run this country.

Look at all the protests across this country today, that's not just because people can't stand right wing representatives, it's because YOU DEMS dropped the ball on democracy!
The Democratic party goal is to adopt the "New World Order" ideology with no borders, one world government, with a handful of powerful elites running the world, rotating puppet heads of the one world government, eliminate all religions but one (we can easily guess what one that is), dirt poor income for the illiterates and those powerful elites laughing all the way to the bank, until of course, the Islamists turn on them too, which they will.
 
See? Actually it was six. Pick one, puss.

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None of those threads have anything to do with this country kissing too much Israeli ass.
I see. You weren't really specific and now you are changing it from Dems to this country. I don't care enough about that subject. If American Jews want to be stupid and support the national socialist party of America they will deserve what they get.
 

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