Discussion in 'Politics' started by P@triot, Jan 7, 2018.
Yes.....you don't like the truth, facts or reality, so you call it bullshit.....
Keep telling us it's raining while you piss on our legs......
Oh Look, Another Reason Why We Should Be Skeptical Of Democrats On Gun Control
Now, YouGov has a poll showing that 82 percent of Democrats want to ban semiautomatic firearms, while they’re evenly split on a total handgun ban. This is where the party stands on gun rights, our civil right to own firearms. They want to shred the Second Amendment and the gauge of Democratic Party members offers a dark vision of what could come if enough of these people are elected to Congress. Allahpundit broke down the numbers:
Democrats are also evenly split at 39/41 on, uh, whether to repeal the Second Amendment.
The cost of an unarmed population is higher in blood and money......the more Americans who are armed, the safer we are...
We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
Armed Americans make us safer.....this is the research that shows how many times a year Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack, and often, mass shooters...
A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....
The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....
GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense
GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys
Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, military)
DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, military)
L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, military)
Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, military)
DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, military)
Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, military)
Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops, military)
Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, military)
DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)
Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."
(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology, U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.)
Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer
Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, military)
Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..
If you take the studies from that Kleck cites in his paper, 16 of them....and you only average the ones that exclude military and police shootings..the average becomes 2 million...I use those studies because I have the details on them...and they are still 10 studies (including Kleck's)....
the US suffers 8 times the per capita rate of gun murders as the average for Western Europe. the rate is 4 times as high as Switzerland, the nearest contender. even if America did make "worse parents", it couldn't be that bad.
this reasoning about bad parenting runs so deep that black parents say parenting is the problem even when they are criticized for being the very parent they themselves believe to be the problem.
Anyone calling for a gun ban
Don't kid yourself and think that the only rifle the extremists want banned is the so called assault rifle
Even morons with thicker skulls than the gun grabbers will eventually realize that the so called assault rifle is no different than any other semiautomatic rifle and the call will go out to ban all semiautomatic weapons including handguns
Did you ever ask yourself why these extremist control freaks want to ban the single most popular rifle in the country?
It's not because it is used in murders
It's naive to think that the government will be there to protect you or your family when it is needed
And the membership of the NRA increases because of people like you who want to restrict the rights of people who have committed no crimes.
YOU people are the best recruiters the NRA has
YOU people and the most effective marketers for firearms
Most homes don't own an AR of any kind. The homes that do own an AR own multiple ARs. You can scream BS all you want to that but you can't change facts. I don't know of a single AR owner in in my entire neighborhood but most have at least one gun be it a handgun, shotgun or hunting rifle. Most only own two of those three. And it's not always a handgun and another type.
The AR owners I know are a bit on the ultra right wing side of things and almost all sing the same tune of , "They are trying to take all my guns" song and own more than 3 ARs among other types. They are ready for that ARmed Revolution that never comes. Some of us are armed to prevent the gun nutz from bring the Revolution to our door steps. If you aren't worried that your gun nutzoid neighbor might go off one of these days and start the Revolution then you should be. He's been preparing for iit for a very long time.
But we can't go and force them to get a Shrink Test. Man, Oh Man, would that cause an uproar about their 1st amendment rights. Or we can't allow law enforcement to start watching them closely. They are Right Wingers. Can't have that. When these folks go off the reservation, it's really, really bad and they do it with all their buddies. And they all claim to be protected by the the 2nd amendment. Yet, they scream and holler wanting the checks and balances for the left wingers who own guns.
Newsflash: The flash points of both sides really aren't left or right wingers at all. They are both just nut jobs. And should be treated as such. Allow your Law Enforcement the tools to do their jobs. But you Rightwinger don't want that to happen. It will not only get rid of some of the Left Winger Nutjobs but it will also get rid of some of the Right Winger Nutcases and you can't have that. So you just make sure you scream the loudest about how dangerous the left is.
Listen Dingle Berry, blame the stupid fucks who enacted the GUN FREE ZONES ACT including the dumb asses in SCOTUS
The miserable pieces of shit are always trying to circumvent the Constitution.
The criminally insane found that killing innocent children at the minimum security prisons was like shooting fish in a barrel.
Fighting the imaginary ghost I see. It’s all about what people are going to say, not actually about what they are saying. Not a convincing arguement IMO
Once again you illustrate that you don't know shit about firearms.
Do any of those homes have in them a .223 or 5.56 caliber semiautomatic rifle?
If they do they then have a rifle that is equivalent to an AR 15 in caliber and performance the only appreciable difference is solely cosmetic.
And don't pretend that the banning of the AR 15 would not lead to the call for banning other semiautomatic rifles
Separate names with a comma.