The Constitution: Where They Stand

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1. The Constitution is the only set of laws that the people of this nation have agreed to be governed by. But the Founders knew that, by man's nature, aggrandizement would always be sought; no where was this more evident than in the judiciary.
The Constitution is the oldest written charter of government in use in the world today.
Today, we have a major political party that sees the Constitution as a bar to their power.



2. A 2001 INTERVIEW OF Sen. Barack Obama saying some pretty remarkable things about what he sees as the inadequacy of our Constitution has recently come to light. They go to the core of what this election is about and, even more fundamentally, what America is and may be.
It's perhaps good to remember first what makes America different from other countries. Unlike in other places that are defined by geography and ancestry, to be an American comes from subscribing to a particular set of ideas that are very, very different from those held in much of the rest of the world.
Obama in his interview disparages the Constitution as merely "a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can't do to you. Says what the federal government can't do to you but doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf."

....Obama, like many leftists before him, is unhappy with the constraints of our Constitution. ....that sort of thinking—that government should do it—is precisely what saps volunteerism and helps explain why both the Obamas' and the Bidens' charitable contributions are so pitiful.
It's also important to remember that if the government is doing something for one person—"redistributive change" as Obama wants, it must do something to someone else—which is exactly what our Constitution specifically precludes."



3. Earlier, the Republicans wanted a reading of the Constitution in Congress....

"Other lawmakers decried the exercise altogether, saying the Constitution is a living document that shouldn't be followed to the letter.
"They are reading it like a sacred text," Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., the former chairman of the House Judiciary subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, told The Washington Post.
Nadler derided what he called the "ritualistic reading" as "total nonsense" and "propaganda" intended to give Republicans claim to the document. He argued that the Founders were not "demigods" and that the document's needs for amendments to abolish slavery and other injustices showed it was "highly imperfect."



4. Imagine putting on our Supreme Court, a Justice who disavows the first amendment. Justice Kagan opposes free speech.
"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Brandenburg v. Ohio - Wikipedia



5. Another Democrat/Liberal Justice who has no respect for the US Constitution.
SC Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg ~ to Egypt: "I would not look to the US constitution"



 
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Did someone not let Polislick know that Oblama is not president and it is the Repubs who played hypocrite over appointing judges?
 
A 2001 INTERVIEW OF Sen. Barack Obama saying some pretty remarkable things about what he sees as the inadequacy of our Constitution has recently come to light. . . Obama in his interview disparages the Constitution as merely "a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can't do to you. Says what the federal government can't do to you but doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf."
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That's funny, because Obama was unwittingly explaining how the Constitution does not limit the government, but rather allows for the unmanageable expansion. If the Constitution were to definitively describe what the government can do, then it would correctly be limiting the government.
 
A 2001 INTERVIEW OF Sen. Barack Obama saying some pretty remarkable things about what he sees as the inadequacy of our Constitution has recently come to light. They go to the core of what this election is about and, even more fundamentally, what America is and may be.
It's perhaps good to remember first what makes America different from other countries. Unlike in other places that are defined by geography and ancestry, to be an American comes from subscribing to a particular set of ideas that are very, very different from those held in much of the rest of the world.
Obama in his interview disparages the Constitution as merely "a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can't do to you. Says what the federal government can't do to you but doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf."
:4_13_65:
That's funny, because he is unwittingly explaining how the Constitution does not limit the government. If the Constitution were to definitively describe what the government can do, then it would correctly be limiting the government.
The Constitution doesn't limit the govt. the courts do.
 
Did someone not let Polislick know that Oblama is not president and it is the Repubs who played hypocrite over appointing judges?

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I saw no improprieties the Republicans used to appoint judges that the progressives didn't institute under Obama.

If you don't like the rules instituted by progressives then perhaps they should think about how those rules could be used against them.

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Did someone not let Polislick know that Oblama is not president and it is the Repubs who played hypocrite over appointing judges?

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I saw no improprieties in the Republicans used to appoint judges that the progressives didn't institute under Obama.

If you don't like the rules instituted by progressives then perhaps they should think about how those rules could be used against them.

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The rules made up by Graham and Mcconnell?
 
Did someone not let Polislick know that Oblama is not president and it is the Repubs who played hypocrite over appointing judges?

View attachment 410582

I saw no improprieties in the Republicans used to appoint judges that the progressives didn't institute under Obama.

If you don't like the rules instituted by progressives then perhaps they should think about how those rules could be used against them.

*****SMILE*****



:)

The rules made up by Graham and Mcconnell?


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Which rules would those be?

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Speaking of where Democrats stand vis-a-vis the US Constitution....


In order for the statute to be valid, there must be a compelling governmental interest that can be furthered only by the law in question. Also called compelling governmental interest test and, in the case of a state statute, the compelling state interest test.
The compelling state interest test is distinguishable from the rational basis test, which involves claims that do not involve a suspect class and involve a liberty interest rather than a fundamental right.

Compelling-state-interest-test refers to a method of determining the constitutional validity of a law. Under this test, the government’s interest is balanced against the individual’s constitutional right to be free of law. However, a law will be upheld only if the government’s interest is strong enough.
Compelling-State-Interest-Test Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.



Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors of their right of free speech.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????



No Democrat voter has ever successfully answered that query....but, they're not really Americans, are they.
 
Speaking of where Democrats stand vis-a-vis the US Constitution....


In order for the statute to be valid, there must be a compelling governmental interest that can be furthered only by the law in question. Also called compelling governmental interest test and, in the case of a state statute, the compelling state interest test.
The compelling state interest test is distinguishable from the rational basis test, which involves claims that do not involve a suspect class and involve a liberty interest rather than a fundamental right.

Compelling-state-interest-test refers to a method of determining the constitutional validity of a law. Under this test, the government’s interest is balanced against the individual’s constitutional right to be free of law. However, a law will be upheld only if the government’s interest is strong enough.
Compelling-State-Interest-Test Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.



Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors of their right of free speech.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????



No Democrat voter has ever successfully answered that query....but, they're not really Americans, are they.

And President Adams had a law passed that took away the right of the press to freedom of speech.
 
Speaking of where Democrats stand vis-a-vis the US Constitution....


In order for the statute to be valid, there must be a compelling governmental interest that can be furthered only by the law in question. Also called compelling governmental interest test and, in the case of a state statute, the compelling state interest test.
The compelling state interest test is distinguishable from the rational basis test, which involves claims that do not involve a suspect class and involve a liberty interest rather than a fundamental right.

Compelling-state-interest-test refers to a method of determining the constitutional validity of a law. Under this test, the government’s interest is balanced against the individual’s constitutional right to be free of law. However, a law will be upheld only if the government’s interest is strong enough.
Compelling-State-Interest-Test Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.



Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors of their right of free speech.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????



No Democrat voter has ever successfully answered that query....but, they're not really Americans, are they.

And President Adams had a law passed that took away the right of the press to freedom of speech.



It appears that you are endorsing the Democrat antipathy to free speech.


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PoliChic, you cannot have this discussion with people who don't understand that the U.S. Constitution places limits on the powers of Congress and the Federal Government. You might as well have a "baseball" discussion with someone who wonders whether the batter should run to the right (1st base) or to the left (3d base) after he hits the ball.

It is pointless.
 
PoliChic, you cannot have this discussion with people who don't understand that the U.S. Constitution places limits on the powers of Congress and the Federal Government. You might as well have a "baseball" discussion with someone who wonders whether the batter should run to the right (1st base) or to the left (3d base) after he hits the ball.

It is pointless.


I get your point, but I'm goin' wit' Confusius on dis.....It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.


My target audience isn't folks who know stuff, like you.....it is the government school grad who has been 'educated' via the Mushroom Management System:

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My mission is to offer the truth, linked, sourced and documented.
 
" Delimiters Of Legitimate Aggression "

* Free Speech And Psychological Damage *

4. Imagine putting on our Supreme Court, a Justice who disavows the first amendment. Justice Kagan opposes free speech.
"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Brandenburg v. Ohio - Wikipedia
The politically correct memes being applied as hate speech , etc . , are superlatives applied as an expeditious measure to character assassinate others with who one disagrees to implement ones own opinion as the socially accepted norm .

Contemporary civics and political science does not implement a definition of violence as illegitimate aggression because it emphatically rejects that any aggression is legitimate , in particular where free association to include or exclude other individuals based upon race or creed ( religion ) is at issue .

The source of such a misconception is a matter of legacy from non aggression principles theorists who failed to accurately associate non aggression with pacifism , that is no aggression , even as defense against illegitimate aggression .

Another source of insufficiency is the difficulty with standardizing a definition of illegitimate aggression , though unlawful physical aggression against person or property that includes assault , or theft , or libel , or slander are generally accepted qualifiers .

The relative standard of illegitimate aggression as emotional aggression , along with forced self sufficiency - that is abstaining from financial or emotional support - non inclusion , is the current focus for the religion of secular humanism .

And by the way , the term vulgar term is pantywaste .
 
" Delimiters Of Legitimate Aggression "

* Free Speech And Psychological Damage *

4. Imagine putting on our Supreme Court, a Justice who disavows the first amendment. Justice Kagan opposes free speech.
"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:

"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Brandenburg v. Ohio - Wikipedia
The politically correct memes being applied as hate speech , etc . , are superlatives applied as an expeditious measure to character assassinate others with who one disagrees to implement ones own opinion as the socially accepted norm .

Contemporary civics and political science does not implement a definition of violence as illegitimate aggression because it emphatically rejects that any aggression is legitimate , in particular where free association to include or exclude other individuals based upon race or creed ( religion ) is at issue .

The source of such a misconception is a matter of legacy from non aggression principles theorists who failed to accurately associate non aggression with pacifism , that is no aggression , even as defense against illegitimate aggression .

Another source of insufficiency is the difficulty with standardizing a definition of illegitimate aggression , though unlawful physical aggression against person or property that includes assault , or theft , or libel , or slander are generally accepted qualifiers .

The relative standard of illegitimate aggression as emotional aggression , along with forced self sufficiency - that is abstaining from financial or emotional support - non inclusion , is the current focus for the religion of secular humanism .

And by the way , the term vulgar term is pantywaste .


Pantywaist.


Neither 'speech' nor 'justice' require any modifiers.
 
" Sixties Culture Change Hip Huggers Throw Back "

* Look Ma No Panty Lines With This Butt Floss *

Pantywaist.
Neither 'speech' nor 'justice' require any modifiers.
:) I can only presume the difference between panties at the waist versus panties at the hip .
 
Great thread !!!!

Very concerning !

Barak Obama always struck me as someone who was not totally consigned to what the constitution said.

I dare say that Kamala Harris is of the same fabric.
 

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