The Constitution does not work for Communism/Fascism/Socialism/Marxism/Progressivism/Liberalism...

[IResist]

The Constitution granted powers to the federal government it otherwise did not have under the Articles of Confederation. The Constitution has evolved and has been amended several times. This is the 21st century, not the 18th century.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The Constitution granted powers to the federal government it otherwise did not have under the Articles of Confederation. .

this is true but the powers granted were 1% of those assumed by the Federal govt today. The Constitution was designed to keep us free from the primary source of evil throughout human history : large liberal govt. Liberals oppose . This is why they spied fro Stalin and why Bernie Sanders honeymooned in the USSR and why single payer Obama voted to left of Sanders.

Madison ,Federalist #40
"The truth is, that the great principles of the Constitution proposed by the convention may be considered less as absolutely new, than as the expansion of principles which are found in the Articles of Confederation" The Constitution was supposed to simply be an extension of the Virginia Compact and the Annapolis Convention which were primarily designed to promote free trade among the states

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. This is the 21st century, not the 18th century.

yes and we have seen the great liberals of the 20th Century;Hitler Stalin and Mao so appreciate the wisdom of our Founders more than ever!! Do you know why liberals spied for Hitler and Stalin but not for Mao??

 

[IResist]

Hitler wasnt a liberal.

We cannot return to the days of the Founding Fathers. We can respect them and honor them, but we have to move forward and evolve.

 

[Syriusly]

Communism vs Constitutional Republic

The Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights, collectively known as the Charters of Freedom, have guaranteed the rights and freedoms of Americans for over 200 years.

Classical liberalism
Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism which advocates civil liberties and political freedom with representative democracy under the rule of law and emphasizes economic freedom.
Classical liberalism - Wikipedia

How Communism Works

Simply put, communism is the idea that everyone in a given society receives equal shares of the benefits derived from labor. Communism is designed to allow the poor to rise up and attain financial and social status equal to that of the middle-class landowners. In order for everyone to achieve equality, wealth is redistributed so that the members of the upper class are brought down to the same financial and social level as the middle class. Communism also requires that all means of production be controlled by the state. In other words, no one can own his or her own business or produce his or her own goods because the state owns everything.

Social liberalism - Wikipedia In American political usage, the term "social liberalism" describes progressive stances on socio-political issues like racism, sexism, homophobia and same-sex marriage, inequality, war, women's bodily autonomy and abortion, gun control, and social justice, as opposed to "social conservatism"

Back in the 1940's and from then on, America was at war with Socialists/Communists/Fascists/Progressives/Liberals/Marxists, where the presidents of the US went to war against these EVILS to expunge the US of it. Even in the US, Communism was spreading its roots throughout and a policy was enacted to root them out. The left called it McCarthyism.

McCarthyism - Wikipedia

Ah once again the Right wants to eliminate the competition of ideas.

Poor fascist snowflakes.

 

[Pete7469]

What do you mean "Rooted out"

I hate the mother fuckers but I'm content to let them swallow or murder all thier own genetic garbage naturally.

Rolling back regressive modifications to the Constitution like the 21st did is a great start. Simple English:

Amendment 28. The 16th and 17th Amendment are hereby nullified.

That's draining the fucking swamp.

 

[Pete7469]

Hitler wasnt a liberal.

We cannot return to the days of the Founding Fathers. We can respect them and honor them, but we have to move forward and evolve.

No, hitler was a competent leftist. He actually built shit and had the German economy going. He didn't kill anywhere near as many people as your beloved stalin and a fraction of Mao's death toll. Keep pretending he was a "right winger" because he is to the right of your sniveling servile ass.

He was still WAY left wing of anything people you're programmed to hate stand for.

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How do you "evolve" from a free market libertarian society? By becoming a human ant colony collective?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Hitler wasnt a liberal.
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HItler (national Socialist) Stalin and Mao were not typical big govt liberals?? What were they????
Do you know why our liberals spied for Hitler and Stalin( gave Stalin the bomb) but not Mao?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Hitler wasnt a liberal.

We cannot return to the days of the Founding Fathers. We can respect them and honor them, but we have to move forward and evolve.

evolve toward socialism when it just killed 120 million??? How stupid is that? Our founders did everything possible to prevent that by in effect making liberalism illegal. Liberals lack the IQ to understand freedom so they turn to magical govt!! Its child-like!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Ah once again the Right wants to eliminate the competition of ideas.

not really, the Constitution seeks to limit our governing idea to freedom from big liberal govt, while the bill of rights permits any ideas at all including liberal ideas. Most of the violence you see around the country today is from liberals trying to prevent conservatives from speaking. Do you understand?

 

[Pete7469]

Hitler wasnt a liberal.
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HItler (national Socialist) Stalin and Mao were not typical big govt liberals?? What were they????
Do you know why our liberals spied for Hitler and Stalin( gave Stalin the bomb) but not Mao?

I doubt Isubmit knows anything. He seems like just another computer generated algorithm.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Hitler wasnt a liberal.

We cannot return to the days of the Founding Fathers. We can respect them and honor them, but we have to move forward and evolve.

In terms of American philosophy and the classical liberalism upon which the country is founded, to what should we evolve that would remain within those founding parameters, which are mandated by the national agreement, and not slip into the nonsensical European-based social justice-permeated systems on a mere whim of current times?

 

[IResist]

Our Founding Fathers were liberal. Hitler's ideology was right wing, not left wing.

It would be wrong to nullify the 16th and 17th Amendments. A liberal government is what helps those. It doesn't take away freedom. Going back in time takes rights away.

 

[IResist]

Hitler wasnt a liberal.

We cannot return to the days of the Founding Fathers. We can respect them and honor them, but we have to move forward and evolve.

In terms of American philosophy and the classical liberalism upon which the country is founded, to what should we evolve that would remain within those founding parameters, which are mandated by the national agreement, and not slip into the nonsensical European-based social justice-permeated systems on a mere whim of current times?

America has more freedoms and rights now than in the 1790s.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Hitler wasnt a liberal.

We cannot return to the days of the Founding Fathers. We can respect them and honor them, but we have to move forward and evolve.

In terms of American philosophy and the classical liberalism upon which the country is founded, to what should we evolve that would remain within those founding parameters, which are mandated by the national agreement, and not slip into the nonsensical European-based social justice-permeated systems on a mere whim of current times?

America has more freedoms and rights now than in the 1790s.

Such as? Please answer without conflating 19th Century cultural mores with those of the 21st Century.

Just curious.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Our Founding Fathers were liberal.

if they were liberal then they were liberals for tiny tiny govt who schemed through the Constitution to keep our govt tiny and with only a few enumerated powers forever!!

Welcome to your first lesson in American History!!:

"The government of the United States [federal government] is a definite government confined to specified objects [powers]. It is not like state governments, whose powers are more general. CHARITY IS NO PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE DUTY OF THE GOVERNMENT."
-60)James madison


Jefferson: "Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated."

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. A liberal government is what helps those..

the greatest help or social welfare program is Republican capitalism. Ever hear of East/West Germany?

 

[IResist]

. A liberal government is what helps those..

the greatest help or social welfare program is Republican capitalism. Ever hear of East/West Germany?

We see what Republican capitalism does out here. It squeezes the poor and middle class to give to the rich. Trickle down does not work.

 

[IResist]

Our Founding Fathers were liberal.

if they were liberal then they were liberals for tiny tiny govt who schemed through the Constitution to keep our govt tiny and with only a few enumerated powers forever!!

Welcome to your first lesson in American History!!:

"The government of the United States [federal government] is a definite government confined to specified objects [powers]. It is not like state governments, whose powers are more general. CHARITY IS NO PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE DUTY OF THE GOVERNMENT."
-60)James madison


Jefferson: "Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated."

It was to flee the oppression from England and thankfully we have also evolved from the days of the Founders.

 

[IResist]

Hitler wasnt a liberal.

We cannot return to the days of the Founding Fathers. We can respect them and honor them, but we have to move forward and evolve.

In terms of American philosophy and the classical liberalism upon which the country is founded, to what should we evolve that would remain within those founding parameters, which are mandated by the national agreement, and not slip into the nonsensical European-based social justice-permeated systems on a mere whim of current times?

America has more freedoms and rights now than in the 1790s.

Such as? Please answer without conflating 19th Century cultural mores with those of the 21st Century.

Just curious.

Well, in the days of the Founders, there was slavery, women and blacks didn't have suffrage rights. There were no gay rights. Only rich white property owners could vote and clearly not everyone was equal back then.