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As hard as it is to believe, the President of the United States.....the very same one who owned last year's "Lie of the Year," ( 'If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor....')...yeah, that one....
...unveiled his latest attempt at reprising his award winning performance.

This one:
Obama says the Islamic State 'is not Islamic.'

And, wonder of wonders, his sycophants are turning themselves inside out trying to prove the truth of the obvious falsehood.

OK....read the following horror tale from New Jersey, and let's see the "not Islamic" fest continue.





1. "NEW YORK CITY — A New York radio personality is calling for increased attention to the June murder of a 19-year-old Livingston man, calling it evidence that “domestic terrorism is already here.”

2. ....host of WPLJ’s “The Todd Show”, discussed the death of Brendan Tevlin for more than eight minutes this morning, asking why the case has not received more attention despite the alleged murderer’s admissions that he killed Tevlin as an act of vengeance for U.S. military actions in the Middle East.


3. ....an act of jihad, perpetrated by a fellow American who sympathized more with those who want to annihilate us than with his own country and its people,”...

4. Essex County authorities have charged 29-year-old Ali Muhammad Brown with killing Tevlin in a West Orange intersection on June 25. Since being taken into custody on July 18, he has confessed to the murder, along with three others in Washington state, saying they were carried out as retribution for innocent lives lost in Iraq, Syria and other parts of the Islamic world.

5. Pettengil criticized President Barack Obama and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder for not referencing the case in recent addresses and downplaying the level of threat radical Islamists currently living in America ....focusing instead on other protests such as those in Ferguson, Mo.,...“If there was ever a reason to riot in the streets in the name of humanity it would for this case."
Brendan Tevlin s murder evidence that domestic terrorism is already here says radio host AUDIO NJ.com




6. "...the police initially called it as a robbery gone wrong.That is what it may have fist appeared to be; however, the murder of 19 year old Brendan Tevlin was far from a robbery, it was an act of terrorism and as the defendant, Ali Muhammad Brown, called it … a “Just Kill”. Ali Muhammad Brown, a devout Muslin told prosecutors that, “All these lives are taken every single day by America, by this government. So a life for a life.” Ali Muhammad Brown..."

7. Once again we are witness to political correctness where the MSM refuses to cover what they consider uncomfortable. It is okay to riot in the streets when a black teen is shot by a white police officer, but it is not okay to even cover the story when a white teen is murdered as a result of domestic terrorism by one who follows Islam?

8.Officers said Brown fired 10 shots into Tevlin’s Jeep Liberty when it was stopped at intersection early in the morning in West Orange, N.J. Then he got into the 19-year-old’s car and drove it to a nearby apartment complex to abandon it "
The Untold Story by the MSM 8230 Ali Muhammad Brown Called Murdered 19 Year Old Brendan Tevlin as a 8220 Just Kill 8221 and said Was an act of 8220 Vengeance 8221 Against U.S. Military Killings in the Middle East Update Audio PLJ 8217 s Todd Pettengill Scared Monkeys




9. "....he murdered a New Jersey teenager as revenge for Muslims killed overseas."
Suspect says he murdered New Jersey teen as revenge for U.S. military killings in Middle East police - NY Daily News



10 ."....the murder of 19-year-old college student Brendan Tevlin....On June 25, Tevlin was driving home to Livingston when he was shot and killed in West Orange....Tevlin had no prior contact with Brown or the other two men charged with his murder."
Ali Muhammad Brown suspect in Brendan Tevlin murder accused in 2 Seattle murders - News 12 New Jersey




It seems that, unlike Trayvon Martin, if Barack Obama had a son, he would not have looked liked Brendan Tevlin.
 
The liberal state controlled media will never cover this story. We might as well rename it Pravda and base all media headquarters in the whitehouse.
 
The liberal state controlled media will never cover this story. We might as well rename it Pravda and base all media headquarters in the whitehouse.
Except the press and the Obama administration do not get along. Nice try promoting bullshit though, many on the right will believe you.
 
The liberal state controlled media will never cover this story. We might as well rename it Pravda and base all media headquarters in the whitehouse.
Except the press and the Obama administration do not get along. Nice try promoting bullshit though, many on the right will believe you.




"...the press and the Obama administration do not get along."

Not quite up (down) to the level of Obama says the Islamic State 'is not Islamic.'

...but, deserving of dishonorable mention.
 
The liberal state controlled media will never cover this story. We might as well rename it Pravda and base all media headquarters in the whitehouse.
Except the press and the Obama administration do not get along. Nice try promoting bullshit though, many on the right will believe you.


are you kidding? except for Fox they are up his ass. The administration hates Fox because they dare to present both sides. propaganda doesn't work when both sides are given equal time.
 
Ummm... I don't think your OP is making the point you think it's making:


.... he killed Tevlin as an act of vengeance for U.S. military actions in the Middle East.

3. ....an act of jihad, perpetrated by a fellow American who sympathized more with those who want to annihilate us than with his own country and its people,”...

...saying they were carried out as retribution for innocent lives lost in Iraq, Syria and other parts of the Islamic world....

6. ....“All these lives are taken every single day by America, by this government.

7. Once again we are witness to political correctness where the MSM refuses to cover what they consider uncomfortable. It is okay to riot in the streets when a black teen is shot by a white police officer, but it is not okay to even cover the story when a white teen is murdered as a result of domestic terrorism by one who follows Islam?

(^ poster's own speculation/post hoc fallacy)

8.... an act of 8220 Vengeance 8221 Against U.S. Military Killings in the Middle East Update Audio PLJ 8217 s Todd Pettengill Scared Monkeys

9. "....he murdered a New Jersey teenager as revenge for Muslims killed overseas."


What do these all have in common?

All political motivations, reactions to political events. Spiced with post hoc.
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The liberal state controlled media will never cover this story. We might as well rename it Pravda and base all media headquarters in the whitehouse.
Except the press and the Obama administration do not get along. Nice try promoting bullshit though, many on the right will believe you.


are you kidding? except for Fox they are up his ass. The administration hates Fox because they dare to present both sides. propaganda doesn't work when both sides are given equal time.

Exactly. QED above.
 
Ummm... I don't think your OP is making the point you think it's making:


.... he killed Tevlin as an act of vengeance for U.S. military actions in the Middle East.

3. ....an act of jihad, perpetrated by a fellow American who sympathized more with those who want to annihilate us than with his own country and its people,”...

...saying they were carried out as retribution for innocent lives lost in Iraq, Syria and other parts of the Islamic world....

6. ....“All these lives are taken every single day by America, by this government.

7. Once again we are witness to political correctness where the MSM refuses to cover what they consider uncomfortable. It is okay to riot in the streets when a black teen is shot by a white police officer, but it is not okay to even cover the story when a white teen is murdered as a result of domestic terrorism by one who follows Islam?

(^ poster's own speculation/post hoc fallacy)

8.... an act of 8220 Vengeance 8221 Against U.S. Military Killings in the Middle East Update Audio PLJ 8217 s Todd Pettengill Scared Monkeys

9. "....he murdered a New Jersey teenager as revenge for Muslims killed overseas."


What do these all have in common?

All political motivations, reactions to political events. Spiced with post hoc.
shoot-foot.gif






Wow.....I don't have to rub your face in it today!

You did it yourself!
 
Ummm... I don't think your OP is making the point you think it's making:


.... he killed Tevlin as an act of vengeance for U.S. military actions in the Middle East.

3. ....an act of jihad, perpetrated by a fellow American who sympathized more with those who want to annihilate us than with his own country and its people,”...

...saying they were carried out as retribution for innocent lives lost in Iraq, Syria and other parts of the Islamic world....

6. ....“All these lives are taken every single day by America, by this government.

7. Once again we are witness to political correctness where the MSM refuses to cover what they consider uncomfortable. It is okay to riot in the streets when a black teen is shot by a white police officer, but it is not okay to even cover the story when a white teen is murdered as a result of domestic terrorism by one who follows Islam?

(^ poster's own speculation/post hoc fallacy)

8.... an act of 8220 Vengeance 8221 Against U.S. Military Killings in the Middle East Update Audio PLJ 8217 s Todd Pettengill Scared Monkeys

9. "....he murdered a New Jersey teenager as revenge for Muslims killed overseas."


What do these all have in common?

All political motivations, reactions to political events. Spiced with post hoc.
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Islam is as much political as it is religious.
 
Shifting an act of political terrorism into the realm of the religious has a specific manipulative purpose.

A political act results, predictably, out of a political history - international politics in this case. Understanding that background requires a great deal of study of contexts and history. You have to navigate all kinds of complexities including your own country's part in that history, and what it means here, and what it means there, and third parties, and fourth parties, in order to grok the "why" of it. That produces a large swath of POVs and contingencies and mitigating factors. It can make the brain hurt.

But convert the same political act into a religious one, and eeeeeverything suddenly gets much easier. Now you can sell the despised religion as the enemy -- no matter if the perpetrators weren't even religious people if you can sell them as adherents to that religion, you sell the idea of "Evil". Evil is a base emotion, divorced from the rational, and serves as a tool to open up the can of Rabid that you want from the populace.

The Rabid that you want, that is, if you're trying to sell a war. You can't start a war with rationality.

The concept "Evil" is an advertising tool, just as fast food stores paint their environment red because it makes people hungry. As an emotion, fear is a gut reaction. It shoots first and asks questions later (if at all). And that's what the advertiser wants -- the image (perception) of the Emmanuel Goldstein entity as the embodiment of pure Evil, to be despised and eradicated from the planet. No more international political study-- new Instant Religi-whiz, now with special ingredient Fear-it-all, gets those brain-hurts out and leaves a nice rabid populace ready to kill. No muss, no fuss.

And it begins with simple terminology -- truth is always the first casualty in warmongering. You don't have to sell 9/11 as a "religious" basis --- it's already been sold to you in the phrase "Islamic militants" (and in this case the fearnonger blobs blogs quoted) and you dutifully ingest and do what you're expected to do --- pass it on to the Grand Meme. That serves as one more affirmation.

And that's what they want.

So carry on. Good puppet. Demagogue bone! Go git it!
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A terror group basing itself on religious principles and supported or not least not confronted by that religion is a religious terror group.

I don't remember anyone having to sell the Afghanistan War to the public or Congress.
 
A terror group basing itself on religious principles and supported or not least not confronted by that religion is a religious terror group.

I don't remember anyone having to sell the Afghanistan War to the public or Congress.

It would be, yes. Similarly, propaganda to define a political target as a "religion" is a sales tool that's been visited on the gullible since time immoral. And further, serves to push the target into a religion class they may not have even wanted -- simply for solidarity of defense.*

Kif-kif. Same thing. Both sides coalesce around the illusion, however specious. And that always ends well. (/sarc)


* Hell, we see a version of it here every day. "You democrats/libtards/wackos all....."... "you Repubs/conservatives/wackos are all....". What the hell kind of exchange is that hasty generalizer expecting?

Incidentally --- I don't see the OP speaking of Afghanistan. Nice try, cigar not forthcoming.
 
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Shifting an act of political terrorism into the realm of the religious has a specific manipulative purpose.

A political act results, predictably, out of a political history - international politics in this case. Understanding that background requires a great deal of study of contexts and history. You have to navigate all kinds of complexities including your own country's part in that history, and what it means here, and what it means there, and third parties, and fourth parties, in order to grok the "why" of it. That produces a large swath of POVs and contingencies and mitigating factors. It can make the brain hurt.

But convert the same political act into a religious one, and eeeeeverything suddenly gets much easier. Now you can sell the despised religion as the enemy -- no matter if the perpetrators weren't even religious people if you can sell them as adherents to that religion, you sell the idea of "Evil". Evil is a base emotion, divorced from the rational, and serves as a tool to open up the can of Rabid that you want from the populace.

The Rabid that you want, that is, if you're trying to sell a war. You can't start a war with rationality.

The concept "Evil" is an advertising tool, just as fast food stores paint their environment red because it makes people hungry. As an emotion, fear is a gut reaction. It shoots first and asks questions later (if at all). And that's what the advertiser wants -- the image (perception) of the Emmanuel Goldstein entity as the embodiment of pure Evil, to be despised and eradicated from the planet. No more international political study-- new Instant Religi-whiz, now with special ingredient Fear-it-all, gets those brain-hurts out and leaves a nice rabid populace ready to kill. No muss, no fuss.

And it begins with simple terminology -- truth is always the first casualty in warmongering. You don't have to sell 9/11 as a "religious" basis --- it's already been sold to you in the phrase "Islamic militants" and you dutifully ingested and did what you were expected to do --- passed it on to the Grand Meme. That serves as one more affirmation.

And that's what they want.

So carry on. Good puppet. Demagogue bone! Go git it!
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More remediation coming right up!

Mohammed professed to derive from Heaven, and has inserted in the Koran, not only religious doctrines, but political maxims, civil and criminal laws, and theories of science. The Gospel, on the contrary, speaks only of the general relations of men to God and to each other, beyond which it inculcates and imposes no point of faith. This alone, besides a thousand other reasons, would suffice to prove that the former of these religions will never long predominate in a cultivated and democratic age, while the latter is destined to retain its sway at these as at all other periods.” Tocqueville, “Democracy in America,” vol.2, p. 23.
 
The liberal state controlled media will never cover this story. We might as well rename it Pravda and base all media headquarters in the whitehouse.
Except the press and the Obama administration do not get along. Nice try promoting bullshit though, many on the right will believe you.


are you kidding? except for Fox they are up his ass. The administration hates Fox because they dare to present both sides. propaganda doesn't work when both sides are given equal time.
The media does not get along with the Obama administration. The liberal New York Times is one of the biggest complainers. Righties like you perpetuate these false rumours about Obama and the media and they are simply not true. These was a good article on the subject in Rolling Stone a few weeks ago, you should read it.
 
The liberal state controlled media will never cover this story. We might as well rename it Pravda and base all media headquarters in the whitehouse.
Except the press and the Obama administration do not get along. Nice try promoting bullshit though, many on the right will believe you.




"...the press and the Obama administration do not get along."

Not quite up (down) to the level of Obama says the Islamic State 'is not Islamic.'

...but, deserving of dishonorable mention.
As usual, you are unable to comment on what I said.
 
Approximately 100% of anti-abortion terrorism in the US has been committed by Christians. Does that make anti-abortion terrorism a Christian crime?
 
The liberal state controlled media will never cover this story. We might as well rename it Pravda and base all media headquarters in the whitehouse.
Except the press and the Obama administration do not get along. Nice try promoting bullshit though, many on the right will believe you.


are you kidding? except for Fox they are up his ass. The administration hates Fox because they dare to present both sides. propaganda doesn't work when both sides are given equal time.
The media does not get along with the Obama administration. The liberal New York Times is one of the biggest complainers. Righties like you perpetuate these false rumours about Obama and the media and they are simply not true. These was a good article on the subject in Rolling Stone a few weeks ago, you should read it.



Israel.....the only nation about which Obama has been quoted as "enraged."

You dunce.....here is the NYTimes backing Obama to the hilt on Israel:

1. ".....a sample of[NYTimes] headlines:

“As Israel Hits Mosque and Clinic, Air Campaign’s Risks Come Home;”

“Israelis Watch Bombs Drop on Gaza From Front-Row Seats;”

“Questions About Tactics and Targets as Civilian Toll Climbs in Israeli Strikes;” “Foreign Correspondents in Israel Complain of Intimidation;”

“Israeli Shells are Said to Hit UN School;”

“Military Censorship in Israel;”

“A Boy at Play in Gaza, a Renewal of War, A Family in Mourning;”

“Israel’s Supporters Try to Come to Terms with the Killing of Children in Gaza;”

“Israel Braces for War Crimes Inquiries on Gaza;”

“Resisting Nazis, He Saw Need for Israel. Now He Is Its Critic.”
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/183412/why-im-unsubscribing-to-the-new-york-times


2. Need more convincing of the Leftwing, anti-Israel bias of the NYTimes?


Sure.


" Then there are the [NYTimes] op-eds:

“Israel’s Puppy, Tony Blair;”

“Israel’s Bloody Status Quo;”

“How the West Chose War in Gaza;”

“Darkness Falls on Gaza;”

“Israeli Self-Defense Does Not Permit Killing Civilians;”

“Israel Has Overreacted to the Threats it Provoked;”

“Zionism and Its Discontents;”

“U.S. Should Stop Funding Israel, or Let Others Broker Peace;”

“Israel’s Colonialism Must End;”

“Unwavering Support of Israel Harms U.S. Interests, Encourages Extremism;”

“Eight Days in Gaza: A Wartime Diary: Life and Death in the Gaza Strip.” The last column consumed nearly the entire op-ed page."
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/183412/why-im-unsubscribing-to-the-new-york-times
 

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