The Collapse of Journalism in America

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Great article. Since when did it become an acceptable professional guideline to be a partisan hack for one party or against a candidate as badly as ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN and others have become for the Clinton campaign and against Trump?

Why should anyone trust any of these snooze organizations for reliable information about anything any more given their inability to remain objective at all?

http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/

But something else happening before our eyes is almost as important: the complete collapse of American journalism as we know it.

The frenzy to bury Trump is not limited to the Clinton campaign and the Obama White House. They are working hand-in-hand with what was considered the cream of the nation’s news organizations.

The shameful display of naked partisanship by the elite media is unlike anything seen in modern America.

The largest broadcast networks — CBS, NBC and ABC — and major newspapers like The New York Times and Washington Post have jettisoned all pretense of fair play. Their fierce determination to keep Trump out of the Oval Office has no precedent.

Indeed, no foreign enemy, no terror group, no native criminal gang, suffers the daily beating that Trump does. The mad mullahs of Iran, who call America the Great Satan and vow to wipe Israel off the map, are treated gently by comparison.

By torching its remaining credibility in service of Clinton, the mainstream media’s reputations will likely never recover, nor will the standards. No future producer, editor, reporter or anchor can be expected to meet a test of fairness when that standard has been trashed in such willful and blatant fashion.

How's that different than the NY Post doing the same thing to Clinton?

Cart before the horse.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

This all began off two factors -- (a) the transition of News to a commercial profit-making enterprise, and (b) Lush Rimjob.

The former cheapens what's defined as news, not at all ameliorated by its being controlled by an increasingly shrinking number of corporations with whose interests objective News conflicts, i.e. if you own a television network and also make nuclear power generators and war machines ---- then your network is not going to be trustworthily reporting on nuclear power and war. In the old daze the networks were still commercial but the News was treated as a public service pill they would swallow and operated at a loss, subsidized by the mindless sitcoms that followed.

And (b) served to bring about the Eliminationist polarization that we swim in today, the soup where one's adversaries become dehumanized creatures to be rounded up and exterminated. We see it every day on this board.

The money factor plays a role but the culprit is the culture. It begins with academia teaching (propagating) a left bent as standard.

 

[Pogo]

This all began off two factors -- (a) the transition of News to a commercial profit-making enterprise, and (b) Lush Rimjob.

The former cheapens what's defined as news, not at all ameliorated by its being controlled by an increasingly shrinking number of corporations with whose interests objective News conflicts, i.e. if you own a television network and also make nuclear power generators and war machines ---- then your network is not going to be trustworthily reporting on nuclear power and war. In the old daze the networks were still commercial but the News was treated as a public service pill they would swallow and operated at a loss, subsidized by the mindless sitcoms that followed.

And (b) served to bring about the Eliminationist polarization that we swim in today, the soup where one's adversaries become dehumanized creatures to be rounded up and exterminated. We see it every day on this board.

The money factor plays a role but the culprit is the culture. It begins with academia teaching (propagating) a left bent as standard.

There is no "left bent" in simple profiteering. As I keep telling people, nobody makes a dime off of pushing an ideology. They make dimes and dollars from ensnaring eyeballs to sell them commercials. And that means the objective is whatever will catch attention.

That's why most of our "news" consists of freak shows. They sell.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

This all began off two factors -- (a) the transition of News to a commercial profit-making enterprise, and (b) Lush Rimjob.

The former cheapens what's defined as news, not at all ameliorated by its being controlled by an increasingly shrinking number of corporations with whose interests objective News conflicts, i.e. if you own a television network and also make nuclear power generators and war machines ---- then your network is not going to be trustworthily reporting on nuclear power and war. In the old daze the networks were still commercial but the News was treated as a public service pill they would swallow and operated at a loss, subsidized by the mindless sitcoms that followed.

And (b) served to bring about the Eliminationist polarization that we swim in today, the soup where one's adversaries become dehumanized creatures to be rounded up and exterminated. We see it every day on this board.

The money factor plays a role but the culprit is the culture. It begins with academia teaching (propagating) a left bent as standard.

There is no "left bent" in simple profiteering. As I keep telling people, nobody makes a dime off of pushing an ideology. They make dimes and dollars from ensnaring eyeballs to sell them commercials. And that means the objective is whatever will catch attention.

That's why most of our "news" consists of freak shows. They sell.

The NYT is the template and the have very little advertising in conspicuous places.
You're a shill.

 

[GWV5903]

The topic of this thread really isn't the collapse in journalistic ethics. It's about supposedly how horrible the press has treated Trump.

The "Title" is about the collapse and you would have to be totally biased if you cannot see it, I am not a Trump supporter BTW. The day the bell rang clear was July 7th, 2016 when Comey testified, replace Trump with any of the other possible Republican candidates and the Mainstream Liberal Media would still not have BBQ'ed Clinton...

The MSLM is by far the majority comparatively to Fox and they have their own moments as well. When your head is buried in the sand I understand it's hard to recognize...

It just pretends to be about journalistic ethics.

Have you heard of Dan Rather? Maybe you forgot most American's don't hold Journalist much higher than politicians and lawyers...

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

You don't need to go any further than the W Post pursuing Nixon and Watergate while Benghazi and its cover-up are exponentially worse. Not only did the WP, etc., give this admin a pass on that but Bernstein is actually cheering for Hillary.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Suppose it's not any different. The topic is the collapse of journalism and concommitant rejection of all prior journalistic ethics. Not who has trashed someone the worst.
Now that journalism has collapsed and is devoid of ethics and integrity, it is unlikely to ever regain the prior position of public trust.

------------------------------------------- thanks, you spoke the truth really well Tipsy !!

The Mass Corporate owned Media has dug its own grave, and now all we need is for trustworthy websites to evolve on the net and we can shovel the dirt on their coffins.

Pffttt. Even the allegedly non MSM have lost their ever lovin' minds.

OK, you win, all of humanity has lost their minds.

Might as well just give up and party our lives away.

Why not.

Our children and grandchildren are already picking up the tab for the profligacy.

Why not finish spending their inheritance.

They won't be saddled with a inheritance tax.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Assanges outfit is probably the last bastion of legitimate journalism left on the planet.

And we wonder why he is wanted dead.

 

[Sundance508]

Great article. Since when did it become an acceptable professional guideline to be a partisan hack for one party or against a candidate as badly as ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN and others have become for the Clinton campaign and against Trump?

Why should anyone trust any of these snooze organizations for reliable information about anything any more given their inability to remain objective at all?

http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/

But something else happening before our eyes is almost as important: the complete collapse of American journalism as we know it.

The frenzy to bury Trump is not limited to the Clinton campaign and the Obama White House. They are working hand-in-hand with what was considered the cream of the nation’s news organizations.

The shameful display of naked partisanship by the elite media is unlike anything seen in modern America.

The largest broadcast networks — CBS, NBC and ABC — and major newspapers like The New York Times and Washington Post have jettisoned all pretense of fair play. Their fierce determination to keep Trump out of the Oval Office has no precedent.

Indeed, no foreign enemy, no terror group, no native criminal gang, suffers the daily beating that Trump does. The mad mullahs of Iran, who call America the Great Satan and vow to wipe Israel off the map, are treated gently by comparison.

By torching its remaining credibility in service of Clinton, the mainstream media’s reputations will likely never recover, nor will the standards. No future producer, editor, reporter or anchor can be expected to meet a test of fairness when that standard has been trashed in such willful and blatant fashion.

How's that different than the NY Post doing the same thing to Clinton?

Suppose it's not any different. The topic is the collapse of journalism and concommitant rejection of all prior journalistic ethics. Not who has trashed someone the worst.


Now that journalism has collapsed and is devoid of ethics and integrity, it is unlikely to ever regain the prior position of public trust.

We need to have congressional hearings in regards to a blatantly biased media.....America needs the truth and it needs a honest media...we need to wake up and demand that the media do their utmost to promote the truth not some agenda .....and no news outlet is more compromised than the governments Public Broadcast Service ...heavily biased for years....where has congress been?...cut their funding if they cannot operate without bias.

The media standard should be....'you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free'....aka without truth liberty cannot exist.


http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/

 

[WaitingFor2020]

This all began off two factors -- (a) the transition of News to a commercial profit-making enterprise, and (b) Lush Rimjob.

The former cheapens what's defined as news, not at all ameliorated by its being controlled by an increasingly shrinking number of corporations with whose interests objective News conflicts, i.e. if you own a television network and also make nuclear power generators and war machines ---- then your network is not going to be trustworthily reporting on nuclear power and war. In the old daze the networks were still commercial but the News was treated as a public service pill they would swallow and operated at a loss, subsidized by the mindless sitcoms that followed.

And (b) served to bring about the Eliminationist polarization that we swim in today, the soup where one's adversaries become dehumanized creatures to be rounded up and exterminated. We see it every day on this board.

The money factor plays a role but the culprit is the culture. It begins with academia teaching (propagating) a left bent as standard.

There is no "left bent" in simple profiteering. As I keep telling people, nobody makes a dime off of pushing an ideology. They make dimes and dollars from ensnaring eyeballs to sell them commercials. And that means the objective is whatever will catch attention.

That's why most of our "news" consists of freak shows. They sell.

The NYT is the template and the have very little advertising in conspicuous places.
You're a shill.

I get the NYT and the first section is chock full of ads starting on pages 2 and 3. Some ads are full page.

 

[IcebergSlim]

Trump brings his negative press on to himself. The articles write themselves. Now run along and be a good little Republican and remember that Republicans believe that people should take responsibility for their actions and their words, remember? That goes for Mr. Trump too

Bullshit. Nothing Trump has done has been criminal or as deceptive and self serving as Hillary Clintons lies about her Foundation and its ongoing bribery, her record of failure as Secretary of State, her identification with light versions of Marxism and her endorsement of Black Lies Matter, her disregard for Americans that are suffering because of her playing loyal team mate to a failure of a President, the rule by decree Obama Regime, etc.

One thing we can be sure of is that no matter what Hillary Clinton does, she will be able to count on partisan hacks to come to her defense, hacks like yourself.

Bullshit. Nothing Trump has done has been criminal or as deceptive and self serving as Hillary Clintons lies about her Foundation and its ongoing bribery, her record of failure as Secretary of State, her identification with light versions of Marxism and her endorsement of Black Lies Matter, her disregard for Americans that are suffering because of her playing loyal team mate to a failure of a President, the rule by decree Obama Regime, etc.


And if asked to lend support to this set of Bold Assertions, you would reach into the bottomless font of reich wing clickbait......including the NYPost....

 

[WaitingFor2020]

Great article. Since when did it become an acceptable professional guideline to be a partisan hack for one party or against a candidate as badly as ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN and others have become for the Clinton campaign and against Trump?

Why should anyone trust any of these snooze organizations for reliable information about anything any more given their inability to remain objective at all?

http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/

But something else happening before our eyes is almost as important: the complete collapse of American journalism as we know it.

The frenzy to bury Trump is not limited to the Clinton campaign and the Obama White House. They are working hand-in-hand with what was considered the cream of the nation’s news organizations.

The shameful display of naked partisanship by the elite media is unlike anything seen in modern America.

The largest broadcast networks — CBS, NBC and ABC — and major newspapers like The New York Times and Washington Post have jettisoned all pretense of fair play. Their fierce determination to keep Trump out of the Oval Office has no precedent.

Indeed, no foreign enemy, no terror group, no native criminal gang, suffers the daily beating that Trump does. The mad mullahs of Iran, who call America the Great Satan and vow to wipe Israel off the map, are treated gently by comparison.

By torching its remaining credibility in service of Clinton, the mainstream media’s reputations will likely never recover, nor will the standards. No future producer, editor, reporter or anchor can be expected to meet a test of fairness when that standard has been trashed in such willful and blatant fashion.

How's that different than the NY Post doing the same thing to Clinton?

Suppose it's not any different. The topic is the collapse of journalism and concommitant rejection of all prior journalistic ethics. Not who has trashed someone the worst.


Now that journalism has collapsed and is devoid of ethics and integrity, it is unlikely to ever regain the prior position of public trust.

We need to have congressional hearings in regards to a blatantly biased media.....America needs the truth and it needs a honest media...we need to wake up and demand that the media do their utmost to promote the truth not some agenda .....and no news outlet is more compromised than the governments Public Broadcast Service ...heavily biased for years....where has congress been?...cut their funding if they cannot operate without bias.

The media standard should be....'you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free'....aka without truth liberty cannot exist.


http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/

Are you serious? You want the government to govern the press? What kind of freak are you?
The kind that advocates for the constitution but doesn't understand what it actually means?

 

[IcebergSlim]

You don't need to go any further than the W Post pursuing Nixon and Watergate while Benghazi and its cover-up are exponentially worse. Not only did the WP, etc., give this admin a pass on that but Bernstein is actually cheering for Hillary.

Benghazi and its cover-up are exponentially worse.

This would be an article of faith, I assume...

 

[Pogo]

Great article. Since when did it become an acceptable professional guideline to be a partisan hack for one party or against a candidate as badly as ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN and others have become for the Clinton campaign and against Trump?

Why should anyone trust any of these snooze organizations for reliable information about anything any more given their inability to remain objective at all?

http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/

But something else happening before our eyes is almost as important: the complete collapse of American journalism as we know it.

The frenzy to bury Trump is not limited to the Clinton campaign and the Obama White House. They are working hand-in-hand with what was considered the cream of the nation’s news organizations.

The shameful display of naked partisanship by the elite media is unlike anything seen in modern America.

The largest broadcast networks — CBS, NBC and ABC — and major newspapers like The New York Times and Washington Post have jettisoned all pretense of fair play. Their fierce determination to keep Trump out of the Oval Office has no precedent.

Indeed, no foreign enemy, no terror group, no native criminal gang, suffers the daily beating that Trump does. The mad mullahs of Iran, who call America the Great Satan and vow to wipe Israel off the map, are treated gently by comparison.

By torching its remaining credibility in service of Clinton, the mainstream media’s reputations will likely never recover, nor will the standards. No future producer, editor, reporter or anchor can be expected to meet a test of fairness when that standard has been trashed in such willful and blatant fashion.

How's that different than the NY Post doing the same thing to Clinton?

Suppose it's not any different. The topic is the collapse of journalism and concommitant rejection of all prior journalistic ethics. Not who has trashed someone the worst.


Now that journalism has collapsed and is devoid of ethics and integrity, it is unlikely to ever regain the prior position of public trust.

We need to have congressional hearings in regards to a blatantly biased media.....America needs the truth and it needs a honest media...we need to wake up and demand that the media do their utmost to promote the truth not some agenda .....and no news outlet is more compromised than the governments Public Broadcast Service ...heavily biased for years....where has congress been?...cut their funding if they cannot operate without bias.

The media standard should be....'you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free'....aka without truth liberty cannot exist.


http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/

The government doesn't have a "public broadcast service". In some countries they do, not this one.

The only broadcast service the government runs are the exterior ones -- Voice of America, Radio Martí, Radio Liberty, that sort of thing. To foreigners.

 

[IcebergSlim]

This all began off two factors -- (a) the transition of News to a commercial profit-making enterprise, and (b) Lush Rimjob.

The former cheapens what's defined as news, not at all ameliorated by its being controlled by an increasingly shrinking number of corporations with whose interests objective News conflicts, i.e. if you own a television network and also make nuclear power generators and war machines ---- then your network is not going to be trustworthily reporting on nuclear power and war. In the old daze the networks were still commercial but the News was treated as a public service pill they would swallow and operated at a loss, subsidized by the mindless sitcoms that followed.

And (b) served to bring about the Eliminationist polarization that we swim in today, the soup where one's adversaries become dehumanized creatures to be rounded up and exterminated. We see it every day on this board.

The money factor plays a role but the culprit is the culture. It begins with academia teaching (propagating) a left bent as standard.

It begins with academia teaching (propagating) a left bent as standard


Assuming that you actually attended an institution of higher learning, do you have PERSONAL experience with this, or are you just taking some hyperventilating propagandist's word for it?

 

[IcebergSlim]

Great article. Since when did it become an acceptable professional guideline to be a partisan hack for one party or against a candidate as badly as ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN and others have become for the Clinton campaign and against Trump?

Why should anyone trust any of these snooze organizations for reliable information about anything any more given their inability to remain objective at all?

http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/

But something else happening before our eyes is almost as important: the complete collapse of American journalism as we know it.

The frenzy to bury Trump is not limited to the Clinton campaign and the Obama White House. They are working hand-in-hand with what was considered the cream of the nation’s news organizations.

The shameful display of naked partisanship by the elite media is unlike anything seen in modern America.

The largest broadcast networks — CBS, NBC and ABC — and major newspapers like The New York Times and Washington Post have jettisoned all pretense of fair play. Their fierce determination to keep Trump out of the Oval Office has no precedent.

Indeed, no foreign enemy, no terror group, no native criminal gang, suffers the daily beating that Trump does. The mad mullahs of Iran, who call America the Great Satan and vow to wipe Israel off the map, are treated gently by comparison.

By torching its remaining credibility in service of Clinton, the mainstream media’s reputations will likely never recover, nor will the standards. No future producer, editor, reporter or anchor can be expected to meet a test of fairness when that standard has been trashed in such willful and blatant fashion.

The NYPost, Handmaiden of Reaction?

At least you have Breitbart....

Did you expect the corrupt entities mentioned in the thread would actually provide any legit analysis?
Duh.

Certainly more so than an opinion scribbler at the NYPost....

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

This all began off two factors -- (a) the transition of News to a commercial profit-making enterprise, and (b) Lush Rimjob.

The former cheapens what's defined as news, not at all ameliorated by its being controlled by an increasingly shrinking number of corporations with whose interests objective News conflicts, i.e. if you own a television network and also make nuclear power generators and war machines ---- then your network is not going to be trustworthily reporting on nuclear power and war. In the old daze the networks were still commercial but the News was treated as a public service pill they would swallow and operated at a loss, subsidized by the mindless sitcoms that followed.

And (b) served to bring about the Eliminationist polarization that we swim in today, the soup where one's adversaries become dehumanized creatures to be rounded up and exterminated. We see it every day on this board.

The money factor plays a role but the culprit is the culture. It begins with academia teaching (propagating) a left bent as standard.

There is no "left bent" in simple profiteering. As I keep telling people, nobody makes a dime off of pushing an ideology. They make dimes and dollars from ensnaring eyeballs to sell them commercials. And that means the objective is whatever will catch attention.

That's why most of our "news" consists of freak shows. They sell.

The NYT is the template and the have very little advertising in conspicuous places.
You're a shill.

I get the NYT and the first section is chock full of ads starting on pages 2 and 3. Some ads are full page.

How many on the front page?
What page is visible on the stand?
You're a shill, too. And an apologist for corruption.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

You don't need to go any further than the W Post pursuing Nixon and Watergate while Benghazi and its cover-up are exponentially worse. Not only did the WP, etc., give this admin a pass on that but Bernstein is actually cheering for Hillary.

Benghazi and its cover-up are exponentially worse.

This would be an article of faith, I assume...

You're a Nixon apologist.

 

[Pogo]

This all began off two factors -- (a) the transition of News to a commercial profit-making enterprise, and (b) Lush Rimjob.

The former cheapens what's defined as news, not at all ameliorated by its being controlled by an increasingly shrinking number of corporations with whose interests objective News conflicts, i.e. if you own a television network and also make nuclear power generators and war machines ---- then your network is not going to be trustworthily reporting on nuclear power and war. In the old daze the networks were still commercial but the News was treated as a public service pill they would swallow and operated at a loss, subsidized by the mindless sitcoms that followed.

And (b) served to bring about the Eliminationist polarization that we swim in today, the soup where one's adversaries become dehumanized creatures to be rounded up and exterminated. We see it every day on this board.

The money factor plays a role but the culprit is the culture. It begins with academia teaching (propagating) a left bent as standard.

There is no "left bent" in simple profiteering. As I keep telling people, nobody makes a dime off of pushing an ideology. They make dimes and dollars from ensnaring eyeballs to sell them commercials. And that means the objective is whatever will catch attention.

That's why most of our "news" consists of freak shows. They sell.

The NYT is the template and the have very little advertising in conspicuous places.
You're a shill.

I get the NYT and the first section is chock full of ads starting on pages 2 and 3. Some ads are full page.

How many on the front page?
What page is visible on the stand?
You're a shill, too. And an apologist for corruption.

False comparison. You're talking about newspapers -- a different format where you actually purchase the artifact by the day.

My assessment was about electronic media, specifically broadcast, the objective of which is to ensnare viewers/listeners by whatever method they can, including news theater, sports theater, music theater, whatever works -- so they can then deliver those eyes and ears to an advertiser. And they know, and have known for a very long time, that salacious pandering-to-emotions bullshit will sell those eyeballs and ears and keep them there for the commercial.

But the newspapers do the same thing, via a different format. That's where the old adage "if it bleeds it leads" comes from --- newspaper publishing. That content directly affects how many papers you can sell. That's how Rupert Murdoch made his fortune........... selling sleazy tabloids around the world.

 

[mamooth]

A close horse race sells. Reporting "Clinton is winning easily" means lower ratings and less money. Hence, journalists will keep trying to help Trump.