The climate crusaders say coal is dying! LOL!!

[Wry Catcher]

Wry Catcher writes,

"Catalytic converters and the removal of lead from gas is evidence human interaction had a negative impact on the air, and was mitigated even when fools opposed such a mitigation.

Ever heard of Acid Rain? Hows about SMOG, where does that come from, GOD, MOTHER NATURE or US?

What evidence do you have in echoing the argument that the ice cap is a natural occurrence, and not a result of pollution?

Ever heard of the Killer Fog? Clean coal is gallows humor:"

==========

Yes it is good that Lead and other polluting substances are captured, however that was part of the 1970 Clear air act effect because at the time technology was in the early stages of being able to do the job in the cleaning up of emissions of various particles known to cause health problems.

Killer Fog was in 1952, long before technology was available to clean up the Coal emissions, also it was rare combination of atmospheric conditions that caused something not normally seen as shown by a research finally solving the massive 1952 death toll:

Business Insider

Scientists finally know what caused a mysterious fog to kill 12,000 people in London in 1952

Alan Martin,
Alphr
Nov. 18, 2016, 5:17 AM

"The event in question is the "killer fog" that hit London for several days in 1952. First appearing on 5 December, it lifted four days later with an estimated death toll of at least 12,000 people, with around 150,000 hospitalisations and thousands of undocumented animal deaths. Although the Clean Air Act was passed partly in response four years later, the actual causes of the incident have gone unknown until now.

Through atmospheric measurements of fog in China, and laboratory experiments, Texas A&M researcher Dr Renyi Zhang and his team came up with their answer: nitrogen dioxide converting comparatively benign sulfur dioxide into lethal sulfuric acid.

"People have known that sulfate was a big contributor to the fog, and sulfuric acid particles were formed from sulfur dioxide released by coal burning for residential use and power plants, and other means," explained Zhang. "But how sulfur dioxide was turned into sulfuric acid was unclear."

LINK
===================

Acid Rain was not the big scare it originally was as it very limited in small local areas.

Smog is no longer a major problem in many parts of the world, who have cleaned up the Coal emissions with technology. Most of it is still exist in Asian and in some European nations.

You wrote this weirdly,

"What evidence do you have in echoing the argument that the ice cap is a natural occurrence, and not a result of pollution? "

Todays Arctic sea ice level are well above the average for the interglacial period, even with some dark dust particles on small parts of the Arctic region.

Please explain that to the Inuit people and the polar bears, the inter-glacial period has lasted over 11,000 years. What changed during the last 2 centuries?

Gawad!

Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?

Polar Bears are CURRENTLY enjoying a large population growth of several decades.

Low summer sea ice levels has little impact on Polar Bear dietary habits.

You are so clueless.

Where do you get you "information"? Clearly you've never learned to debate civilly.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Wry Catcher writes,

"Catalytic converters and the removal of lead from gas is evidence human interaction had a negative impact on the air, and was mitigated even when fools opposed such a mitigation.

Ever heard of Acid Rain? Hows about SMOG, where does that come from, GOD, MOTHER NATURE or US?

What evidence do you have in echoing the argument that the ice cap is a natural occurrence, and not a result of pollution?

Ever heard of the Killer Fog? Clean coal is gallows humor:"

==========

Yes it is good that Lead and other polluting substances are captured, however that was part of the 1970 Clear air act effect because at the time technology was in the early stages of being able to do the job in the cleaning up of emissions of various particles known to cause health problems.

Killer Fog was in 1952, long before technology was available to clean up the Coal emissions, also it was rare combination of atmospheric conditions that caused something not normally seen as shown by a research finally solving the massive 1952 death toll:

Business Insider

Scientists finally know what caused a mysterious fog to kill 12,000 people in London in 1952

Alan Martin,
Alphr
Nov. 18, 2016, 5:17 AM

"The event in question is the "killer fog" that hit London for several days in 1952. First appearing on 5 December, it lifted four days later with an estimated death toll of at least 12,000 people, with around 150,000 hospitalisations and thousands of undocumented animal deaths. Although the Clean Air Act was passed partly in response four years later, the actual causes of the incident have gone unknown until now.

Through atmospheric measurements of fog in China, and laboratory experiments, Texas A&M researcher Dr Renyi Zhang and his team came up with their answer: nitrogen dioxide converting comparatively benign sulfur dioxide into lethal sulfuric acid.

"People have known that sulfate was a big contributor to the fog, and sulfuric acid particles were formed from sulfur dioxide released by coal burning for residential use and power plants, and other means," explained Zhang. "But how sulfur dioxide was turned into sulfuric acid was unclear."

LINK
===================

Acid Rain was not the big scare it originally was as it very limited in small local areas.

Smog is no longer a major problem in many parts of the world, who have cleaned up the Coal emissions with technology. Most of it is still exist in Asian and in some European nations.

You wrote this weirdly,

"What evidence do you have in echoing the argument that the ice cap is a natural occurrence, and not a result of pollution? "

Todays Arctic sea ice level are well above the average for the interglacial period, even with some dark dust particles on small parts of the Arctic region.

Please explain that to the Inuit people and the polar bears, the inter-glacial period has lasted over 11,000 years. What changed during the last 2 centuries?

Can't answer the question what has changed in the last two centuries? I have no clue.

What has not changed though in the last 25 years is people's total lack of interest in doing anything about climate change. It's so off people's radar it's laughable. Evidently the climate scientists have yet to make their case!

To alleviate your ignorance, what has changed in the past two centuries is Coal and Oil, i.e. the Industrial Revolution.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Few, if any of these guys know what the Null hypothesis is because neither the left wing media, nor the high priests of the church of mann made climate change talk about it...no grant money to be had in the null hypothesis. If the null hypothesis started getting traction among anyone other than thinking people, it would be back to the days when the best gig a climate guy could hope for was weatherman on a cable network...they couldn't afford BMW's, fashionable addresses, or boob jobs for their fashionable mistresses who were also unaffordable before the rise of the mann made climate scam.

A reductio ad absurdum fallacy framed on an ad hominem.

Not so absurd when coupled with the fact that you can't provide a single piece of observed, measured evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability...that being the case, what do you suppose drives the climate "consensus" if not money?

They have IGNORED the evidence of climate models predictive failures for years now. It is clear they are captive of ecoloony propaganda.

Thanks so much for sharing. Your premise, "all scientists are fakes" is more informational than you must have expected.

You welcome.

I never stated or implied that "all scientists are fakes", that came from you, don't try putting words in my mouth again!

It is a FACT that warmists do indeed ignore prediction/projections climate models failures. I have posted the evidence in the forum many times now, that gets ignored too.

I made the inference based on the comment that money motivated scientists. If that was not you, and one other denier, Mea clupa.

 

[skookerasbil]

Wry Catcher writes,

"Catalytic converters and the removal of lead from gas is evidence human interaction had a negative impact on the air, and was mitigated even when fools opposed such a mitigation.

Ever heard of Acid Rain? Hows about SMOG, where does that come from, GOD, MOTHER NATURE or US?

What evidence do you have in echoing the argument that the ice cap is a natural occurrence, and not a result of pollution?

Ever heard of the Killer Fog? Clean coal is gallows humor:"

==========

Yes it is good that Lead and other polluting substances are captured, however that was part of the 1970 Clear air act effect because at the time technology was in the early stages of being able to do the job in the cleaning up of emissions of various particles known to cause health problems.

Killer Fog was in 1952, long before technology was available to clean up the Coal emissions, also it was rare combination of atmospheric conditions that caused something not normally seen as shown by a research finally solving the massive 1952 death toll:

Business Insider

Scientists finally know what caused a mysterious fog to kill 12,000 people in London in 1952

Alan Martin,
Alphr
Nov. 18, 2016, 5:17 AM

"The event in question is the "killer fog" that hit London for several days in 1952. First appearing on 5 December, it lifted four days later with an estimated death toll of at least 12,000 people, with around 150,000 hospitalisations and thousands of undocumented animal deaths. Although the Clean Air Act was passed partly in response four years later, the actual causes of the incident have gone unknown until now.

Through atmospheric measurements of fog in China, and laboratory experiments, Texas A&M researcher Dr Renyi Zhang and his team came up with their answer: nitrogen dioxide converting comparatively benign sulfur dioxide into lethal sulfuric acid.

"People have known that sulfate was a big contributor to the fog, and sulfuric acid particles were formed from sulfur dioxide released by coal burning for residential use and power plants, and other means," explained Zhang. "But how sulfur dioxide was turned into sulfuric acid was unclear."

LINK
===================

Acid Rain was not the big scare it originally was as it very limited in small local areas.

Smog is no longer a major problem in many parts of the world, who have cleaned up the Coal emissions with technology. Most of it is still exist in Asian and in some European nations.

You wrote this weirdly,

"What evidence do you have in echoing the argument that the ice cap is a natural occurrence, and not a result of pollution? "

Todays Arctic sea ice level are well above the average for the interglacial period, even with some dark dust particles on small parts of the Arctic region.

Please explain that to the Inuit people and the polar bears, the inter-glacial period has lasted over 11,000 years. What changed during the last 2 centuries?

Can't answer the question what has changed in the last two centuries? I have no clue.

What has not changed though in the last 25 years is people's total lack of interest in doing anything about climate change. It's so off people's radar it's laughable. Evidently the climate scientists have yet to make their case!

To alleviate your ignorance, what has changed in the past two centuries is Coal and Oil, i.e. the Industrial Revolution.

Maybe I am somewhat ignorant....but winning! The only thing that matters s0n!

 

[Wry Catcher]

Q. Do deniers ever have any doubts that the Climate Change & Ocean Warming have nothing to do with human actions


If not, they have rejected a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What is it about pollution that gives you a chubby?

Or keeping some Americans and some from other countries living in third world conditions.

Or hoping for buggy whip factories to reopen.

WHY is the right so against the US being a world leader? Damn trump has put an end to that and RWNJs are thrilled.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Wry Catcher writes,

"Catalytic converters and the removal of lead from gas is evidence human interaction had a negative impact on the air, and was mitigated even when fools opposed such a mitigation.

Ever heard of Acid Rain? Hows about SMOG, where does that come from, GOD, MOTHER NATURE or US?

What evidence do you have in echoing the argument that the ice cap is a natural occurrence, and not a result of pollution?

Ever heard of the Killer Fog? Clean coal is gallows humor:"

==========

Yes it is good that Lead and other polluting substances are captured, however that was part of the 1970 Clear air act effect because at the time technology was in the early stages of being able to do the job in the cleaning up of emissions of various particles known to cause health problems.

Killer Fog was in 1952, long before technology was available to clean up the Coal emissions, also it was rare combination of atmospheric conditions that caused something not normally seen as shown by a research finally solving the massive 1952 death toll:

Business Insider

Scientists finally know what caused a mysterious fog to kill 12,000 people in London in 1952

Alan Martin,
Alphr
Nov. 18, 2016, 5:17 AM

"The event in question is the "killer fog" that hit London for several days in 1952. First appearing on 5 December, it lifted four days later with an estimated death toll of at least 12,000 people, with around 150,000 hospitalisations and thousands of undocumented animal deaths. Although the Clean Air Act was passed partly in response four years later, the actual causes of the incident have gone unknown until now.

Through atmospheric measurements of fog in China, and laboratory experiments, Texas A&M researcher Dr Renyi Zhang and his team came up with their answer: nitrogen dioxide converting comparatively benign sulfur dioxide into lethal sulfuric acid.

"People have known that sulfate was a big contributor to the fog, and sulfuric acid particles were formed from sulfur dioxide released by coal burning for residential use and power plants, and other means," explained Zhang. "But how sulfur dioxide was turned into sulfuric acid was unclear."

LINK
===================

Acid Rain was not the big scare it originally was as it very limited in small local areas.

Smog is no longer a major problem in many parts of the world, who have cleaned up the Coal emissions with technology. Most of it is still exist in Asian and in some European nations.

You wrote this weirdly,

"What evidence do you have in echoing the argument that the ice cap is a natural occurrence, and not a result of pollution? "

Todays Arctic sea ice level are well above the average for the interglacial period, even with some dark dust particles on small parts of the Arctic region.

Please explain that to the Inuit people and the polar bears, the inter-glacial period has lasted over 11,000 years. What changed during the last 2 centuries?

Gawad!

Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?

Polar Bears are CURRENTLY enjoying a large population growth of several decades.

Low summer sea ice levels has little impact on Polar Bear dietary habits.

You are so clueless.

Where do you get you "information"? Clearly you've never learned to debate civilly.

You can't figure out this sentence I wrote???

"Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?"

Meanwhile Polar Bears get most of their fat for the year in just a few months.

Buffet time for polar bears – spring/early summer is for eating baby seals

"Spring is the busiest and most important season for polar bears: it is the most important feeding period and it is also when mating occurs. The fat that polar bears put on during the spring and early summer is critical for their survival over the rest of the year and for females, determines whether they can successfully produce cubs the following year."

 

[Wry Catcher]

Wry Catcher writes,

"Catalytic converters and the removal of lead from gas is evidence human interaction had a negative impact on the air, and was mitigated even when fools opposed such a mitigation.

Ever heard of Acid Rain? Hows about SMOG, where does that come from, GOD, MOTHER NATURE or US?

What evidence do you have in echoing the argument that the ice cap is a natural occurrence, and not a result of pollution?

Ever heard of the Killer Fog? Clean coal is gallows humor:"

==========

Yes it is good that Lead and other polluting substances are captured, however that was part of the 1970 Clear air act effect because at the time technology was in the early stages of being able to do the job in the cleaning up of emissions of various particles known to cause health problems.

Killer Fog was in 1952, long before technology was available to clean up the Coal emissions, also it was rare combination of atmospheric conditions that caused something not normally seen as shown by a research finally solving the massive 1952 death toll:

Business Insider

Scientists finally know what caused a mysterious fog to kill 12,000 people in London in 1952

Alan Martin,
Alphr
Nov. 18, 2016, 5:17 AM

"The event in question is the "killer fog" that hit London for several days in 1952. First appearing on 5 December, it lifted four days later with an estimated death toll of at least 12,000 people, with around 150,000 hospitalisations and thousands of undocumented animal deaths. Although the Clean Air Act was passed partly in response four years later, the actual causes of the incident have gone unknown until now.

Through atmospheric measurements of fog in China, and laboratory experiments, Texas A&M researcher Dr Renyi Zhang and his team came up with their answer: nitrogen dioxide converting comparatively benign sulfur dioxide into lethal sulfuric acid.

"People have known that sulfate was a big contributor to the fog, and sulfuric acid particles were formed from sulfur dioxide released by coal burning for residential use and power plants, and other means," explained Zhang. "But how sulfur dioxide was turned into sulfuric acid was unclear."

LINK
===================

Acid Rain was not the big scare it originally was as it very limited in small local areas.

Smog is no longer a major problem in many parts of the world, who have cleaned up the Coal emissions with technology. Most of it is still exist in Asian and in some European nations.

You wrote this weirdly,

"What evidence do you have in echoing the argument that the ice cap is a natural occurrence, and not a result of pollution? "

Todays Arctic sea ice level are well above the average for the interglacial period, even with some dark dust particles on small parts of the Arctic region.

Please explain that to the Inuit people and the polar bears, the inter-glacial period has lasted over 11,000 years. What changed during the last 2 centuries?

Gawad!

Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?

Polar Bears are CURRENTLY enjoying a large population growth of several decades.

Low summer sea ice levels has little impact on Polar Bear dietary habits.

You are so clueless.

Where do you get you "information"? Clearly you've never learned to debate civilly.

You can't figure out this sentence I wrote???

"Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?"

Meanwhile Polar Bears get most of their fat for the year in just a few months.

Buffet time for polar bears – spring/early summer is for eating baby seals

"Spring is the busiest and most important season for polar bears: it is the most important feeding period and it is also when mating occurs. The fat that polar bears put on during the spring and early summer is critical for their survival over the rest of the year and for females, determines whether they can successfully produce cubs the following year."

An interglacial period (or alternatively interglacial,interglaciation) is a geological interval of warmer global average temperature lasting thousands of years that separates consecutive glacial periodswithin an ice age. The current Holocene interglacialbegan at the end of the Pleistocene, about 11,700 years ago.

And,

The last glacial period ended about 15,000 years ago.

Basic Facts About Polar Bears

See the box on their status as threatened by global warming.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Wry Catcher writes,

"Catalytic converters and the removal of lead from gas is evidence human interaction had a negative impact on the air, and was mitigated even when fools opposed such a mitigation.

Ever heard of Acid Rain? Hows about SMOG, where does that come from, GOD, MOTHER NATURE or US?

What evidence do you have in echoing the argument that the ice cap is a natural occurrence, and not a result of pollution?

Ever heard of the Killer Fog? Clean coal is gallows humor:"

==========

Yes it is good that Lead and other polluting substances are captured, however that was part of the 1970 Clear air act effect because at the time technology was in the early stages of being able to do the job in the cleaning up of emissions of various particles known to cause health problems.

Killer Fog was in 1952, long before technology was available to clean up the Coal emissions, also it was rare combination of atmospheric conditions that caused something not normally seen as shown by a research finally solving the massive 1952 death toll:

Business Insider

Scientists finally know what caused a mysterious fog to kill 12,000 people in London in 1952

Alan Martin,
Alphr
Nov. 18, 2016, 5:17 AM

"The event in question is the "killer fog" that hit London for several days in 1952. First appearing on 5 December, it lifted four days later with an estimated death toll of at least 12,000 people, with around 150,000 hospitalisations and thousands of undocumented animal deaths. Although the Clean Air Act was passed partly in response four years later, the actual causes of the incident have gone unknown until now.

Through atmospheric measurements of fog in China, and laboratory experiments, Texas A&M researcher Dr Renyi Zhang and his team came up with their answer: nitrogen dioxide converting comparatively benign sulfur dioxide into lethal sulfuric acid.

"People have known that sulfate was a big contributor to the fog, and sulfuric acid particles were formed from sulfur dioxide released by coal burning for residential use and power plants, and other means," explained Zhang. "But how sulfur dioxide was turned into sulfuric acid was unclear."

LINK
===================

Acid Rain was not the big scare it originally was as it very limited in small local areas.

Smog is no longer a major problem in many parts of the world, who have cleaned up the Coal emissions with technology. Most of it is still exist in Asian and in some European nations.

You wrote this weirdly,

"What evidence do you have in echoing the argument that the ice cap is a natural occurrence, and not a result of pollution? "

Todays Arctic sea ice level are well above the average for the interglacial period, even with some dark dust particles on small parts of the Arctic region.

Please explain that to the Inuit people and the polar bears, the inter-glacial period has lasted over 11,000 years. What changed during the last 2 centuries?

Gawad!

Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?

Polar Bears are CURRENTLY enjoying a large population growth of several decades.

Low summer sea ice levels has little impact on Polar Bear dietary habits.

You are so clueless.

Where do you get you "information"? Clearly you've never learned to debate civilly.

You can't figure out this sentence I wrote???

"Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?"

Meanwhile Polar Bears get most of their fat for the year in just a few months.

Buffet time for polar bears – spring/early summer is for eating baby seals

"Spring is the busiest and most important season for polar bears: it is the most important feeding period and it is also when mating occurs. The fat that polar bears put on during the spring and early summer is critical for their survival over the rest of the year and for females, determines whether they can successfully produce cubs the following year."

An interglacial period (or alternatively interglacial,interglaciation) is a geological interval of warmer global average temperature lasting thousands of years that separates consecutive glacial periodswithin an ice age. The current Holocene interglacialbegan at the end of the Pleistocene, about 11,700 years ago.

And,

The last glacial period ended about 15,000 years ago.

Basic Facts About Polar Bears

See the box on their status as threatened by global warming.

Polar Bears have been considered a THREATENGED species for many years, while the Population greatly increased, DESPITE the significant reduction of summer ice, from YOUR LINK:

"Population
The World Conservation Union (IUCN) estimates that there are between 20,000-25,000 polar bears in the world."

That is the HIGHEST it has ever been

They are Bsing you too easily.

Your interglacial period lecture is hilarious since you STILL don't seem to understand that it is better than living in a glaciation period.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Please explain that to the Inuit people and the polar bears, the inter-glacial period has lasted over 11,000 years. What changed during the last 2 centuries?

Gawad!

Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?

Polar Bears are CURRENTLY enjoying a large population growth of several decades.

Low summer sea ice levels has little impact on Polar Bear dietary habits.

You are so clueless.

Where do you get you "information"? Clearly you've never learned to debate civilly.

You can't figure out this sentence I wrote???

"Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?"

Meanwhile Polar Bears get most of their fat for the year in just a few months.

Buffet time for polar bears – spring/early summer is for eating baby seals

"Spring is the busiest and most important season for polar bears: it is the most important feeding period and it is also when mating occurs. The fat that polar bears put on during the spring and early summer is critical for their survival over the rest of the year and for females, determines whether they can successfully produce cubs the following year."

An interglacial period (or alternatively interglacial,interglaciation) is a geological interval of warmer global average temperature lasting thousands of years that separates consecutive glacial periodswithin an ice age. The current Holocene interglacialbegan at the end of the Pleistocene, about 11,700 years ago.

And,

The last glacial period ended about 15,000 years ago.

Basic Facts About Polar Bears

See the box on their status as threatened by global warming.

Polar Bears have been considered a THREATENGED species for many years, while the Population greatly increased, DESPITE the significant reduction of summer ice, from YOUR LINK:

"Population
The World Conservation Union (IUCN) estimates that there are between 20,000-25,000 polar bears in the world."

That is the HIGHEST it has ever been

They are Bsing you too easily.

Your interglacial period lecture is hilarious since you STILL don't seem to understand that it is better than living in a glaciation period.

Who is the BSer? Koch Industries or the 98% of scientists around the world?

 

[skookerasbil]

Q. Do deniers ever have any doubts that the Climate Change & Ocean Warming have nothing to do with human actions


If not, they have rejected a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

Dang....

Q. Do deniers ever have any doubts that the Climate Change & Ocean Warming have nothing to do with human actions


If not, they have rejected a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

Dang s0n... you are pulling the famous stunt that progressives are known for: completely changing the topic in midstream. On this one that's particularly fascinating because it's not even in the ballpark. You people don't even try hard anymore.

You are posing a question that is completely immaterial to the discussion.

Let me connect the dots for you.

How and what energy is produced will never ever have anything to do with climate change. In the real world energy production has to do with one thing and one thing only: costs. Costs, of course never matter to the progressive. It's as if they don't even exist. But in the real world costs are everything as we clearly see in energy production over the last 25 years and we'll see for the next century. Even the Obama Energy Information Agency report from just over a year ago agrees . Munch....munch!!

As I said in my last post perhaps I am ignorant but I am clearly winning!

 

[SSDD]

Please explain that to the Inuit people and the polar bears, the inter-glacial period has lasted over 11,000 years. What changed during the last 2 centuries?

Inuit people and polar bears? I can only guess that you don't realize that at present, it is colder in the arctic, and there is more ice than there has been for most of the past 10,000 years?

Here...a gold standard temperature reconstruction of the arctic from the GISP2 ice cores.

Here, from Stein et al, 2017..clearly showing that the ice cover is greater now than it has been for most of the past 10,000 years.



and I could go on with published paper after published paper showing clearly that there is more ice in the arctic now than there has been for most of the past 10,000 years. That being the case, what, exactly are you so worried about. The inuit have survived much less ice, and the polar bears have as well. Natural variability provides much wilder swings in the climate than anything we have seen.

 

[SSDD]

You have yet to show there is a valid climate concern.

Do you know what the NUL hypothesis is and how it relates to Weather/Climate?

Few, if any of these guys know what the Null hypothesis is because neither the left wing media, nor the high priests of the church of mann made climate change talk about it...no grant money to be had in the null hypothesis. If the null hypothesis started getting traction among anyone other than thinking people, it would be back to the days when the best gig a climate guy could hope for was weatherman on a cable network...they couldn't afford BMW's, fashionable addresses, or boob jobs for their fashionable mistresses who were also unaffordable before the rise of the mann made climate scam.

A reductio ad absurdum fallacy framed on an ad hominem.

Not so absurd when coupled with the fact that you can't provide a single piece of observed, measured evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability...that being the case, what do you suppose drives the climate "consensus" if not money?

They have IGNORED the evidence of climate models predictive failures for years now. It is clear they are captive of ecoloony propaganda.

Thanks so much for sharing. Your premise, "all scientists are fakes" is more informational than you must have expected.

Interesting... you accuse me of engaging in a logical fallacy and then you dive right into the fallacy pool yourself.

 

[SSDD]

Q. Do deniers ever have any doubts that the Climate Change & Ocean Warming have nothing to do with human actions


If not, they have rejected a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.

Since there is nothing at all happening in the climate now that is even approaching the limits of natural variability, exactly what evidence have you seen that suggest that the bit of change we have seen is due to our activities?...What do you think is happening in the climate today, or for the past 150 years, for that matter that is even approaching the borders of natural variability?

 

[SSDD]

An interglacial period (or alternatively interglacial,interglaciation) is a geological interval of warmer global average temperature lasting thousands of years that separates consecutive glacial periodswithin an ice age. The current Holocene interglacialbegan at the end of the Pleistocene, about 11,700 years ago.

And,

The last glacial period ended about 15,000 years ago.

Basic Facts About Polar Bears

See the box on their status as threatened by global warming.

Once again...here is a gold standard temperature reconstruction of the arctic derived from the GISP1 ice cores taken from above the arctic circle. This reconstruction has better resolution, and is more accurate than any other arctic temperature reconstruction that has been done. Take a close look...as you can see, the temperature in the arctic is warmer now, than it has been for more than 90% of the past 10,000 years. Exactly how do you think the polar bears are threatened by the bit of warming we have seen when they survived much warmer temperaures and less ice coverage for most of the past 10,000 years?

 

[SSDD]

Wry Catcher....I can't help but notice that you seem to be avoiding my post asking you for a single piece of observed, measured evidence that supports the AGW hypothesis over natural variability? You talk as if you have seen evidence that supports the claims of man made climate change over natural variability. One would expect that you would gladly slap me down with such evidence if you had seen it.

The fact is, that no such evidence exists, and you certainly won't be posting it. You will either avoid answering, or give some excuse as to why you can't be bothered like all other warmers who are faced with the fact that their position is one of belief...not evidence.

 

[SSDD]

Gawad!

Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?

Polar Bears are CURRENTLY enjoying a large population growth of several decades.

Low summer sea ice levels has little impact on Polar Bear dietary habits.

You are so clueless.

Where do you get you "information"? Clearly you've never learned to debate civilly.

You can't figure out this sentence I wrote???

"Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?"

Meanwhile Polar Bears get most of their fat for the year in just a few months.

Buffet time for polar bears – spring/early summer is for eating baby seals

"Spring is the busiest and most important season for polar bears: it is the most important feeding period and it is also when mating occurs. The fat that polar bears put on during the spring and early summer is critical for their survival over the rest of the year and for females, determines whether they can successfully produce cubs the following year."

An interglacial period (or alternatively interglacial,interglaciation) is a geological interval of warmer global average temperature lasting thousands of years that separates consecutive glacial periodswithin an ice age. The current Holocene interglacialbegan at the end of the Pleistocene, about 11,700 years ago.

And,

The last glacial period ended about 15,000 years ago.

Basic Facts About Polar Bears

See the box on their status as threatened by global warming.

Polar Bears have been considered a THREATENGED species for many years, while the Population greatly increased, DESPITE the significant reduction of summer ice, from YOUR LINK:

"Population
The World Conservation Union (IUCN) estimates that there are between 20,000-25,000 polar bears in the world."

That is the HIGHEST it has ever been

They are Bsing you too easily.

Your interglacial period lecture is hilarious since you STILL don't seem to understand that it is better than living in a glaciation period.

Who is the BSer? Koch Industries or the 98% of scientists around the world?

Anyone who actually believes that 98% of scientists around the world are on board the man made climate change crazy train.

 

[Billy_Bob]

See the box on their status as threatened by global warming.

A fallacy as their numbers jumped from just over 5,000 to well over 29,000 in the last 25 years... This is why they are not considered an endangered species any more. The warmth has allowed them to thrive.

 

[Sunsettommy]

See the box on their status as threatened by global warming.

A fallacy as their numbers jumped from just over 5,000 to well over 29,000 in the last 25 years... This is why they are not considered an endangered species any more. The warmth has allowed them to thrive.

This despite the reduction of Summer sea ice cover too. But as I have pointed out a number of times, summer ice cover level changes is not of significant importance to the Bears. They get most of their calories for the year in the spring into early summer.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Gawad!

Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?

Polar Bears are CURRENTLY enjoying a large population growth of several decades.

Low summer sea ice levels has little impact on Polar Bear dietary habits.

You are so clueless.

Where do you get you "information"? Clearly you've never learned to debate civilly.

You can't figure out this sentence I wrote???

"Do even realize that the INTERGLACIAL period is better for them than Glaciation period?"

Meanwhile Polar Bears get most of their fat for the year in just a few months.

Buffet time for polar bears – spring/early summer is for eating baby seals

"Spring is the busiest and most important season for polar bears: it is the most important feeding period and it is also when mating occurs. The fat that polar bears put on during the spring and early summer is critical for their survival over the rest of the year and for females, determines whether they can successfully produce cubs the following year."

An interglacial period (or alternatively interglacial,interglaciation) is a geological interval of warmer global average temperature lasting thousands of years that separates consecutive glacial periodswithin an ice age. The current Holocene interglacialbegan at the end of the Pleistocene, about 11,700 years ago.

And,

The last glacial period ended about 15,000 years ago.

Basic Facts About Polar Bears

See the box on their status as threatened by global warming.

Polar Bears have been considered a THREATENGED species for many years, while the Population greatly increased, DESPITE the significant reduction of summer ice, from YOUR LINK:

"Population
The World Conservation Union (IUCN) estimates that there are between 20,000-25,000 polar bears in the world."

That is the HIGHEST it has ever been

They are Bsing you too easily.

Your interglacial period lecture is hilarious since you STILL don't seem to understand that it is better than living in a glaciation period.

Who is the BSer? Koch Industries or the 98% of scientists around the world?

And there it is...

You have no desire to even be rational or to use commonsense. You have found your boogie man and no amount of real science will sway your from the fantasy.