The biggest problem America faces? Obamacare? Terrorism? Politicians?

This was Trump's rhetoric during the election:

Some Mexicans don't rape.

A Mexican can't be a good judge.

Mrs. Housekeeping referring to a former Hispanic Miss Universe.

I don't want blacks handling my money. I want Jews to handle it.

Lost lawsuits claiming discrimination.

Admits to sexual assault for fun.

Said, referring to the 42,000 Americans who suffered as POW's since 1940 including John McCain, "I like people who weren't captured".

It's all on Youtube. You can watch him say it. This is what Republicans voted for. They say they like the fact he tells it like it is.

He just talked in front of 40,000 boy scouts. That wasn't a speech about "Be good kids, love your country, be honest, help your community" and all the other things presidents have said to the Boy Scouts for decades.

Trump Despicable Political Speech to Boy Scouts Slammed by Former Scouts and Parents

And how these white wingers defend Trump's speech. How do you relate to people that have zero morals. No wonder they admire Trump for stiffing his workers and using charity money for a slush fund and ripping off children with cancer. USMB Republicans complain that they are tired of hearing about this meaningless "stuff".
 
Yep. We've allowed ourselves to become more divided. This was our choice.
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Not WE. It was Republicans choice.
Sigh.....

Come on Grampa. You know here the hateful crap started and was encouraged. Even if you don't have the balls to admit it, you know where it came from.
It comes from the opposition party & media personalities with every President. There is no "starting point"
It has always been a factor but at a much smaller scale. Now it is snowballing down the hill at a nauseating pace.
And don't even claim any bullshit about me as it pertains to Trump because this decline has been happening long before him. It's just that it has now infected every aspect of everyday life because of mass media & instant internet.
What were once a minority of opinions and constant hate are now in our faces every single day. It's inescapable
 
Us.


Just look at all the hate on this board for our politicians, media & pundits.
We have posters who celebrate tragedies. We have posters who celebrate the deaths of others. We have posters who celebrate the illnesses of others. We have posters who literally wish death on others.
The list goes on & on. Poking fun is one thing but I have literally watched the moral decline of our society on this very board since I joined.
The level of hatred for fellow Americans is unsustainable and at some point the cork is going to pop. I believe we are seeing the fuse as it burns right now.

Washington is but a mere reflection of our society.


I was here at the beginning of this board. Don't know where you were, it it was
Much worse with members Wishing Death and Rape on other members and Their families. False indignation. To many years of these assholes patting them selves on the back and getting rich in Washington. McCain's time came long ago. He should have taken his loot and left years ago when he ceased to matter after his massive loss to "that one". Worship him if you like. Me? He could not leave soon enough. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
 
Us.


Just look at all the hate on this board for our politicians, media & pundits.
We have posters who celebrate tragedies. We have posters who celebrate the deaths of others. We have posters who celebrate the illnesses of others. We have posters who literally wish death on others.
The list goes on & on. Poking fun is one thing but I have literally watched the moral decline of our society on this very board since I joined.
The level of hatred for fellow Americans is unsustainable and at some point the cork is going to pop. I believe we are seeing the fuse as it burns right now.

Washington is but a mere reflection of our society.


I was here at the beginning of this board. Don't know where you were, it it was
Much worse with members Wishing Death and Rape on other members and Their families. False indignation. To many years of these assholes patting them selves on the back and getting rich in Washington. McCain's time came long ago. He should have taken his loot and left years ago when he ceased to matter after his massive loss to "that one". Worship him if you like. Me? He could not leave soon enough. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
you were here in 2004?....
 
Us.


Just look at all the hate on this board for our politicians, media & pundits.
We have posters who celebrate tragedies. We have posters who celebrate the deaths of others. We have posters who celebrate the illnesses of others. We have posters who literally wish death on others.
The list goes on & on. Poking fun is one thing but I have literally watched the moral decline of our society on this very board since I joined.
The level of hatred for fellow Americans is unsustainable and at some point the cork is going to pop. I believe we are seeing the fuse as it burns right now.

Washington is but a mere reflection of our society.


I was here at the beginning of this board. Don't know where you were, it it was
Much worse with members Wishing Death and Rape on other members and Their families. False indignation. To many years of these assholes patting them selves on the back and getting rich in Washington. McCain's time came long ago. He should have taken his loot and left years ago when he ceased to matter after his massive loss to "that one". Worship him if you like. Me? He could not leave soon enough. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
you were here in 2004?....


Yup. When cicelle? Was? Was a loooooong loooooooooooooong time ago among all the other Hannity exiles. Even checked out St. Elsewhere, but that was years ago. The gravity isn't as high as it once was I notice. And lumpy used to get called a creeper because of all the enuendo in his posts.
 
Yep. We've allowed ourselves to become more divided. This was our choice.
.

Not WE. It was Republicans choice.
no it was the die hard party people on both sides who divided us and your good buddy dean is one of the best examples of a lefty we have in this forum who has been doing that since he first joined....
Republicans divided the country years ago when they demonized the word "liberal".

What is good about a Republican conservative?

They have an entire hate list:

1. Gays
2. Muslims
3. Blacks
4. Hispanics
5. Liberals
6. Jews
7. Women's rights
8. Sick and disabled
9. College professors
10. Scientists

They aren't for anything except tearing things down. They don't build, don't invent, they scare people, they are dishonest. And their single excuse is "Democrats do it". The mantra they use to justify their evil deeds.

Look at the GOP cutting food stamps for poor children, daycare, school lunches and children's healthcare. To justify that, they say, "You murder babies". I don't know a single Democrat who is for abortion. Democrats are for women's rights. And that includes the right of women to have self determination, something Republicans want to end. Clearly, Republicans don't care about babies once they are born. Their actions prove it.

Now come on right wingers, start crying, "He's saying it again and it's not true". Only it is true. We all know it to be true.
 
Us.


Just look at all the hate on this board for our politicians, media & pundits.
We have posters who celebrate tragedies. We have posters who celebrate the deaths of others. We have posters who celebrate the illnesses of others. We have posters who literally wish death on others.
The list goes on & on. Poking fun is one thing but I have literally watched the moral decline of our society on this very board since I joined.
The level of hatred for fellow Americans is unsustainable and at some point the cork is going to pop. I believe we are seeing the fuse as it burns right now.

Washington is but a mere reflection of our society.


I was here at the beginning of this board. Don't know where you were, it it was
Much worse with members Wishing Death and Rape on other members and Their families. False indignation. To many years of these assholes patting them selves on the back and getting rich in Washington. McCain's time came long ago. He should have taken his loot and left years ago when he ceased to matter after his massive loss to "that one". Worship him if you like. Me? He could not leave soon enough. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
you were here in 2004?....


Yup. When cicelle? Was? Was a loooooong loooooooooooooong time ago among all the other Hannity exiles. Even checked out St. Elsewhere, but that was years ago. The gravity isn't as high as it once was I notice. And lumpy used to get called a creeper because of all the enuendo in his posts.
thanks for your service.....
 
Us.


Just look at all the hate on this board for our politicians, media & pundits.
We have posters who celebrate tragedies. We have posters who celebrate the deaths of others. We have posters who celebrate the illnesses of others. We have posters who literally wish death on others.
The list goes on & on. Poking fun is one thing but I have literally watched the moral decline of our society on this very board since I joined.
The level of hatred for fellow Americans is unsustainable and at some point the cork is going to pop. I believe we are seeing the fuse as it burns right now.

Washington is but a mere reflection of our society.
The right wing is too willing to ditch capitalism for their socialism on a national basis.

We should be winding down the drug war to pay for health care.
agree about winding down the drug war, or at least put it in the hands of individual states
There is no drug war clause; there is a general welfare clause. Guess what the right wing has the most problem with.
 
This thread proves one thing . We live in pretty good times! We should appreciate it more .

Our biggest issues is we argue ? How to best have nation health care?

First world problems .
 
Us.


Just look at all the hate on this board for our politicians, media & pundits.
We have posters who celebrate tragedies. We have posters who celebrate the deaths of others. We have posters who celebrate the illnesses of others. We have posters who literally wish death on others.
The list goes on & on. Poking fun is one thing but I have literally watched the moral decline of our society on this very board since I joined.
The level of hatred for fellow Americans is unsustainable and at some point the cork is going to pop. I believe we are seeing the fuse as it burns right now.

Washington is but a mere reflection of our society.
The right wing is too willing to ditch capitalism for their socialism on a national basis.

We should be winding down the drug war to pay for health care.
agree about winding down the drug war, or at least put it in the hands of individual states
There is no drug war clause; there is a general welfare clause. Guess what the right wing has the most problem with.
well, the dems have been pretty good drug warriors throughout the years too; FDR signed the first fed cannibis law into effect, same year he signed the first fed infringement of the 2A into effect; 1934. In the absence of a constitutional amendment, drug policy should be strictly up to states and localities.
 
How do we come back?
My guess is that, since it's now infected the culture, it has to be fixed through the culture.

That means having "leaders" from all walks of life to be brave and start calling their own side, and start sincerely reaching out to the other. Then perhaps some kind of momentum can be reached, some kind of escape velocity.

And no, I don't see that happening any time soon.
.
The divisions are too great. There is no middle ground, no point of compromise. How can you compromise on gay marriage or abortion? What's the middle ground on the oversexualization of children?

This is a battle to the death.
 
Yep. We've allowed ourselves to become more divided. This was our choice.
.

Not WE. It was Republicans choice.
no it was the die hard party people on both sides who divided us and your good buddy dean is one of the best examples of a lefty we have in this forum who has been doing that since he first joined....
Republicans divided the country years ago when they demonized the word "liberal".

What is good about a Republican conservative?

They have an entire hate list:

1. Gays
2. Muslims
3. Blacks
4. Hispanics
5. Liberals
6. Jews
7. Women's rights
8. Sick and disabled
9. College professors
10. Scientists

They aren't for anything except tearing things down. They don't build, don't invent, they scare people, they are dishonest. And their single excuse is "Democrats do it". The mantra they use to justify their evil deeds.

Look at the GOP cutting food stamps for poor children, daycare, school lunches and children's healthcare. To justify that, they say, "You murder babies". I don't know a single Democrat who is for abortion. Democrats are for women's rights. And that includes the right of women to have self determination, something Republicans want to end. Clearly, Republicans don't care about babies once they are born. Their actions prove it.

Now come on right wingers, start crying, "He saying it again and it's not true". Only it is true. We all know it to be true.
many of the far right yes i agree.....now lets talk about far lefties like you dean.....you hate more than half the people in the country .....and why?.....they just have to not agree with your shit and they will be put into that big fucking tent you put everyone in.....YOU are no fucking different than those far righties who are on the other side of that coin all you assholes are on....now prove me wrong.....
 
Us.


Just look at all the hate on this board for our politicians, media & pundits.
We have posters who celebrate tragedies. We have posters who celebrate the deaths of others. We have posters who celebrate the illnesses of others. We have posters who literally wish death on others.
The list goes on & on. Poking fun is one thing but I have literally watched the moral decline of our society on this very board since I joined.
The level of hatred for fellow Americans is unsustainable and at some point the cork is going to pop. I believe we are seeing the fuse as it burns right now.

Washington is but a mere reflection of our society.
The right wing is too willing to ditch capitalism for their socialism on a national basis.

We should be winding down the drug war to pay for health care.
agree about winding down the drug war, or at least put it in the hands of individual states
There is no drug war clause; there is a general welfare clause. Guess what the right wing has the most problem with.
well, the dems have been pretty good drug warriors throughout the years too; FDR signed the first fed cannibis law into effect, same year he signed the first fed infringement of the 2A into effect; 1934. In the absence of a constitutional amendment, drug policy should be strictly up to states and localities.
Why does Mr. Trump want to increase spending on the drug war and not health care?
 
I've been on forums for nearly 15 years, it's nothing new
It was confined to forums before. Now with the advent of mass media & social networking our special brand of poison is going mainstream.

People hide behind their computers

Twitter / Facebook..I told you that before. They have to be extreme stories , or people get bored..
 
How do we come back?
My guess is that, since it's now infected the culture, it has to be fixed through the culture.

That means having "leaders" from all walks of life to be brave and start calling their own side, and start sincerely reaching out to the other. Then perhaps some kind of momentum can be reached, some kind of escape velocity.

And no, I don't see that happening any time soon.
.
The divisions are too great. There is no middle ground, no point of compromise. How can you compromise on gay marriage or abortion? What's the middle ground on the oversexualization of children?

This is a battle to the death.

How can you compromise on feeding the babies after they are born... ?


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