The Ancient Black Hebrews

I found them! The black Israelites! and they know where the lost tribes are too!:eek:

This may be Asclepias..But I can't be sure:eusa_think:



This is a better rendering of Black Jews descended from the tribe of Judah according to their oral traditions. The LEMBA.

But to underline their Hebraic roots, I am pleased to inform you that the leaders of one of their clans has tested positive for the Cohen priestly signature at a frequency higher than that of the general Jewish population.

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Doubtful those people are a hate cult like your boy and these nutjobs..I like the Israeli flag though:thup:




What, no comment on this?:
"But to underline their Hebraic roots, I am pleased to inform you that the leaders of one of their clans has tested positive for the Cohen priestly signature at a frequency higher than that of the general Jewish population."

Google LEMBA and see the true descendants of the Levites and Aaron!



I'm familiar with them, one clan they are also not Jews they don't keep Torah. What's it mean really? Jews where scattered. It stands to reason there would be Jewish (Hebrew) blood throughout the region

Who are YOU to say the Lemba are not Jews. Their claims of being descended from the tribe of Judah is given more weight considering the frequency of Cohen patrilineal DNA occurs among them more than any other Jewish groups. That reality is significantly more powerful than your devalued statement " it stands to reason that there would be (Hebrew )blood throughout the region." Is that all you can say when confronted by the revelation of the Cohen signature being so concentrated in one group more than among other Jewish populations? The Lemba's Cohen connection brings the op clearly into focus and should silence any doubters. But NO, you, the descendent of Ashkenazi proselytes, linger as the worst detractor.
 
Your idea of God's Image is based on the English translation and Western Thinking. Its obvious there is a deeper meaning to the Hebrew original text. I'll fing a link in about 1 minute easily.


Image (Strong's #6754)
The word צלם (tselem) is literally a shadow which is the outline or representation of the original.

And Elohiym, the Great Powerful One, filled the man with a representation of himself .

When we read "And God created man in his own image" our minds form a mental picture of what we look like and then attribute this picture to God himself. In the Hebrews mind it is not the appearance of something that they concentrate on but its function. This passage is not implying a picture of man or God but their function. Through the Hebrew words of this text we see that God had placed within man a shadow or representation of his own function - goal, purpose, thought, etc. It is our responsibility to live our lives as representatives of God, acting in the same manner as he would.

As you can see, your idea about Shape and color is superficial. rather rudimentary thinking.

The Image of God
Obviously you dont realize that when one makes a representation of himself you make it look as much like you as you can. Do you care to comment on the questions I brought out instead of pretending that representation doesnt mean the same thing as saying man was made in gods image?

rep·re·sen·ta·tion
ˌreprəˌzenˈtāSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: representation; plural noun: representations

3. a thing, especially a picture or model, that depicts a likeness or reproduction of someone or something.


I mean can you explain why supposedly white people were turned white as punishment instead of being turned Black?


What you dont see is that God transcends Color as we know it. Your just not able to transcend your hangups on skin color. To be made in God's Image - is what seperated us from the animals, Not each other based on skin color.

Man was made in Gods image in that we were made a spiritual being inside with a desire to create even as God creates. Its a deeper meaning, I'm sorry you cant see it
Who said anything about being seperated by skin color? I said god made man in his image. The first man he made was a Black man and the first woman was a Black woman. Thats not only a biblical fact its a scientific fact.

Dont be sorry. You can make up whatever story you like to rationalize why god didnt first make a white man.
Your idea of God's Image is based on the English translation and Western Thinking. Its obvious there is a deeper meaning to the Hebrew original text. I'll fing a link in about 1 minute easily.


Image (Strong's #6754)
The word צלם (tselem) is literally a shadow which is the outline or representation of the original.

And Elohiym, the Great Powerful One, filled the man with a representation of himself .

When we read "And God created man in his own image" our minds form a mental picture of what we look like and then attribute this picture to God himself. In the Hebrews mind it is not the appearance of something that they concentrate on but its function. This passage is not implying a picture of man or God but their function. Through the Hebrew words of this text we see that God had placed within man a shadow or representation of his own function - goal, purpose, thought, etc. It is our responsibility to live our lives as representatives of God, acting in the same manner as he would.

As you can see, your idea about Shape and color is superficial. rather rudimentary thinking.

The Image of God
Obviously you dont realize that when one makes a representation of himself you make it look as much like you as you can. Do you care to comment on the questions I brought out instead of pretending that representation doesnt mean the same thing as saying man was made in gods image?

rep·re·sen·ta·tion
ˌreprəˌzenˈtāSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: representation; plural noun: representations

3. a thing, especially a picture or model, that depicts a likeness or reproduction of someone or something.


I mean can you explain why supposedly white people were turned white as punishment instead of being turned Black?


What you dont see is that God transcends Color as we know it. Your just not able to transcend your hangups on skin color. To be made in God's Image - is what seperated us from the animals, Not each other based on skin color.

Man was made in Gods image in that we were made a spiritual being inside with a desire to create even as God creates. Its a deeper meaning, I'm sorry you cant see it
Who said anything about being seperated by skin color? I said god made man in his image. The first man he made was a Black man and the first woman was a Black woman. Thats not only a biblical fact its a scientific fact.

Dont be sorry. You can make up whatever story you like to rationalize why god didnt first make a white man.

Dont care what color the first man was, I think he was black according to the science I'm aware of, but to think that God is either black or white is ridiculous. Thats where you error. You cant rely on the English translation to understand the "science" of the bible. The words are shallow in meaning compared to the original Hebrew. Your using western thinking when you simplify the definition of Image.
I'm not relying on the western translation. I know those are full of intentional errors. Hebrew is an Afro-asiatic language based on Black people. If god is saying that I am a god then he is comparing me to him. You white people have no clue about african languages. The meanings are too deep for you.

Psalm 82:6 "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'

Your history according to Louis Farrakan, doesn't mention that Hebrew is more closely related to Aramaic and phenician than African. A language based on Black people? The Jews were a conglomeration of tribes and like many ancient languages they probably borrowed from each other including regions like Ethiopia, but to say Hebrew is based on Black people sounds like your really projecting.

If you do believe in God than your correct, God is comparing you to him, but you can turn down the Farrakan sermon. its not about any one race, its about the spirit and faith in man as given by god.
 
I remember as a kid my grandma told me the Hebrews were Black people. Not being particularly religious I didnt think much about it but always believed it. I've been researching this topic for a while now and it seems to be something so easily proven that I am astounded there is a controversy about it. The ancient Hebrews were obviously Black people. The evidence in the Torah/OT is pretty convincing.

Job 30:30 KJV: My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.
"My skin is black upon me and my bones are burned with heat"

The only people that would suffer from this condition known as starvation induced hyper pigmentation enough to turn Black are dark skinned people such as this type VI person at the end of the Fitzpatrick Skin Type scale

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Jews are semitic sand negroes. Though that is close enough to black for me. Also, I remember something from what I think was the song of solomon in the old testament. Some black chick was talking of her love for solomon. She also brought up her blackness. From what I remember, she said that other people shouldn't look upon her because of her blackness. Strange that they should have such a thing in the old testament, Because these days, through the jew controlled media, they are always promoting the abomination of white chicks and black guys being together.
 
Trust me I am going to make you look like an ass on that one too but only after you prove your claim. I need the direct quotes that prove your silly conclusion.
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You won't make me look like an ass because Joshua kicked almost all of the Cushites and their relatives out of the land of Canaan.
I'm not bothered by the fact that you know nothing, I'm bothered by the fact that you're too lazy to study the Holy Books you keep quoting to push your own personal agenda.
Youre still trying to deflect but doing a terrible job. I have to write you off since you cant prove your claim that god was insulting the Hebrews by comparing them favorably to the Ethiopians.
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In the meantime I will make you look the ass like I promised. Cush was never cursed dummy. it was against the law to curse the first born. Canaan was the one that was cursed and even then he was protected. I guess you better study a couple of more years. Obviously your comprehension of the bible is suspect. That alone renders your claim that you keep deflecting on as null and void. Thanks for playing.
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You are a consummate idiot as the curse is directed towards Canaan and his descendants.
Try reading a verse in context once in a while.


This idiot atheist thinks he can teach you Torah:lmao:
I dont think he is an atheist even though he didnt know Cush and Canaan were brothers not father and son.
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Genesis 9 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
So the question is...why mention that Ham is the father of Canaan?
Because like father, like son.
Canaan was a sexual, power mad deviant like his father Ham.
Cush and Mizraim were also very influenced by their father Ham and were eventually defeated and humiliated throughout history.
You see, you have ZERO idea of the contextual flow of the Biblical narrative.
You are a pick and choose Sound Bite scholar.

And by the way, a verse that describes someone as having Black Locks does NOT make that person Black.
 
Amos 7 / Hebrew - English Bible / Mechon-Mamre
Read verse 17 where God begins his command to Amos to CHASTISE Israel.
Then read the WHOLE Book.
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I read verse 17. It said nothing about Ethiopians. Please give us all the verses that caused you to come to the silly conclusion that god was insulting the Hebrews by comparing them favorably to the Ethiopians.

17 Therefore thus saith the LORD: Thy wife shall be a harlot in the city, and thy sons and thy daughters shall fall by the sword, and thy land shall be divided by line; and thou thyself shalt die in an unclean land, and Israel shall surely be led away captive out of his land.'

And that's why you're not a surgeon.
Tell me how God regarded the Cushites at this point in time.
Hashem has NEVER been particularly fond of the Cushites.

Give you ALL the verses?
I DID...It's called read the Bible and the Prophets, you moron.
Stop deflecting and asking me questions when you havent answered mine yet. Your verse 17 said nothing about Ethiopians. However, in Amos 9:7 it sure looks like god is giving the Ethiopians a favorable thumbs up by saying the Hebrews are his children just like the Ethiopians are. Please prove this to be false. No cheap parlor tricks this time to cover your fumblings.
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First of all, drop the Ethiopian nonsense and tell me who is THE primary ancestor of Cush who was cursed by his father.
Trust me I am going to make you look like an ass on that one too but only after you prove your claim. I need the direct quotes that prove your silly conclusion.
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Where exactly, from a pre-Torah, era, do you learn that cursing a First Born is forbidden.
Even in the Torah it is not forbidden to curse the first born.
As a bit of a hint...Noach WASN'T a Jew.
 
""His head is like gold, pure gold; His locks are like clusters of dates And black as a raven."
-Song of Solomon 5:11

If you are using this verse to prove Jews were Black you're retarded.
Black hair = Black person.
A simply retarded assertion.
 
You won't make me look like an ass because Joshua kicked almost all of the Cushites and their relatives out of the land of Canaan.
I'm not bothered by the fact that you know nothing, I'm bothered by the fact that you're too lazy to study the Holy Books you keep quoting to push your own personal agenda.
Youre still trying to deflect but doing a terrible job. I have to write you off since you cant prove your claim that god was insulting the Hebrews by comparing them favorably to the Ethiopians.
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In the meantime I will make you look the ass like I promised. Cush was never cursed dummy. it was against the law to curse the first born. Canaan was the one that was cursed and even then he was protected. I guess you better study a couple of more years. Obviously your comprehension of the bible is suspect. That alone renders your claim that you keep deflecting on as null and void. Thanks for playing.
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You are a consummate idiot as the curse is directed towards Canaan and his descendants.
Try reading a verse in context once in a while.


This idiot atheist thinks he can teach you Torah:lmao:
Don't fear, his next thread will be that Einstein was Black.
Whatever my next thread is you better get your reading comprehension straight if you are going to debate on it. How could you be so stupid to think Cush had anything to do with Canaans curse?
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That WAS a mistake...it was a long day.
Now what does that have to do with the fact that you "study" the Jewish Scriptures for sound bites to advance your agenda?
 
Can someone answer any of my questions? Any brave white people that would like to address why god turned supposedly white people white as punishment instead of turning them Black?

Cham had sex on the ark and was turned Black as a punishment by God.
There's also the question of whether the Torah actually is giving the actual names of Noach's sons or a description of their character...
Shem means Renowned
Yefes means Beautiful
Cham means hot, as in hot headed or sexually promiscuous

Based upon the later narratives of Avraham and Yitchak, it would appear that "sexually promiscuous" would be an appropriate meaning for Cham.
 
Your idea of God's Image is based on the English translation and Western Thinking. Its obvious there is a deeper meaning to the Hebrew original text. I'll fing a link in about 1 minute easily.


Image (Strong's #6754)
The word צלם (tselem) is literally a shadow which is the outline or representation of the original.

And Elohiym, the Great Powerful One, filled the man with a representation of himself .

When we read "And God created man in his own image" our minds form a mental picture of what we look like and then attribute this picture to God himself. In the Hebrews mind it is not the appearance of something that they concentrate on but its function. This passage is not implying a picture of man or God but their function. Through the Hebrew words of this text we see that God had placed within man a shadow or representation of his own function - goal, purpose, thought, etc. It is our responsibility to live our lives as representatives of God, acting in the same manner as he would.

As you can see, your idea about Shape and color is superficial. rather rudimentary thinking.

The Image of God
Obviously you dont realize that when one makes a representation of himself you make it look as much like you as you can. Do you care to comment on the questions I brought out instead of pretending that representation doesnt mean the same thing as saying man was made in gods image?

rep·re·sen·ta·tion
ˌreprəˌzenˈtāSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: representation; plural noun: representations

3. a thing, especially a picture or model, that depicts a likeness or reproduction of someone or something.


I mean can you explain why supposedly white people were turned white as punishment instead of being turned Black?


What you dont see is that God transcends Color as we know it. Your just not able to transcend your hangups on skin color. To be made in God's Image - is what seperated us from the animals, Not each other based on skin color.

Man was made in Gods image in that we were made a spiritual being inside with a desire to create even as God creates. Its a deeper meaning, I'm sorry you cant see it
Who said anything about being seperated by skin color? I said god made man in his image. The first man he made was a Black man and the first woman was a Black woman. Thats not only a biblical fact its a scientific fact.

Dont be sorry. You can make up whatever story you like to rationalize why god didnt first make a white man.
Your idea of God's Image is based on the English translation and Western Thinking. Its obvious there is a deeper meaning to the Hebrew original text. I'll fing a link in about 1 minute easily.


Image (Strong's #6754)
The word צלם (tselem) is literally a shadow which is the outline or representation of the original.

And Elohiym, the Great Powerful One, filled the man with a representation of himself .

When we read "And God created man in his own image" our minds form a mental picture of what we look like and then attribute this picture to God himself. In the Hebrews mind it is not the appearance of something that they concentrate on but its function. This passage is not implying a picture of man or God but their function. Through the Hebrew words of this text we see that God had placed within man a shadow or representation of his own function - goal, purpose, thought, etc. It is our responsibility to live our lives as representatives of God, acting in the same manner as he would.

As you can see, your idea about Shape and color is superficial. rather rudimentary thinking.

The Image of God
Obviously you dont realize that when one makes a representation of himself you make it look as much like you as you can. Do you care to comment on the questions I brought out instead of pretending that representation doesnt mean the same thing as saying man was made in gods image?

rep·re·sen·ta·tion
ˌreprəˌzenˈtāSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: representation; plural noun: representations

3. a thing, especially a picture or model, that depicts a likeness or reproduction of someone or something.


I mean can you explain why supposedly white people were turned white as punishment instead of being turned Black?


What you dont see is that God transcends Color as we know it. Your just not able to transcend your hangups on skin color. To be made in God's Image - is what seperated us from the animals, Not each other based on skin color.

Man was made in Gods image in that we were made a spiritual being inside with a desire to create even as God creates. Its a deeper meaning, I'm sorry you cant see it
Who said anything about being seperated by skin color? I said god made man in his image. The first man he made was a Black man and the first woman was a Black woman. Thats not only a biblical fact its a scientific fact.

Dont be sorry. You can make up whatever story you like to rationalize why god didnt first make a white man.

Dont care what color the first man was, I think he was black according to the science I'm aware of, but to think that God is either black or white is ridiculous. Thats where you error. You cant rely on the English translation to understand the "science" of the bible. The words are shallow in meaning compared to the original Hebrew. Your using western thinking when you simplify the definition of Image.
I'm not relying on the western translation. I know those are full of intentional errors. Hebrew is an Afro-asiatic language based on Black people. If god is saying that I am a god then he is comparing me to him. You white people have no clue about african languages. The meanings are too deep for you.

Psalm 82:6 "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'

And yet another Roman Catholic perversion of the Jewish Scripture...
6 I said: Ye are godlike beings, and all of you sons of the Most High.
Psalms 82 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre

And yes, knowing Hebrew makes ALL the difference.
 
Obviously you dont realize that when one makes a representation of himself you make it look as much like you as you can. Do you care to comment on the questions I brought out instead of pretending that representation doesnt mean the same thing as saying man was made in gods image?

rep·re·sen·ta·tion
ˌreprəˌzenˈtāSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: representation; plural noun: representations

3. a thing, especially a picture or model, that depicts a likeness or reproduction of someone or something.


I mean can you explain why supposedly white people were turned white as punishment instead of being turned Black?


What you dont see is that God transcends Color as we know it. Your just not able to transcend your hangups on skin color. To be made in God's Image - is what seperated us from the animals, Not each other based on skin color.

Man was made in Gods image in that we were made a spiritual being inside with a desire to create even as God creates. Its a deeper meaning, I'm sorry you cant see it
Who said anything about being seperated by skin color? I said god made man in his image. The first man he made was a Black man and the first woman was a Black woman. Thats not only a biblical fact its a scientific fact.

Dont be sorry. You can make up whatever story you like to rationalize why god didnt first make a white man.
Obviously you dont realize that when one makes a representation of himself you make it look as much like you as you can. Do you care to comment on the questions I brought out instead of pretending that representation doesnt mean the same thing as saying man was made in gods image?

rep·re·sen·ta·tion
ˌreprəˌzenˈtāSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: representation; plural noun: representations

3. a thing, especially a picture or model, that depicts a likeness or reproduction of someone or something.


I mean can you explain why supposedly white people were turned white as punishment instead of being turned Black?


What you dont see is that God transcends Color as we know it. Your just not able to transcend your hangups on skin color. To be made in God's Image - is what seperated us from the animals, Not each other based on skin color.

Man was made in Gods image in that we were made a spiritual being inside with a desire to create even as God creates. Its a deeper meaning, I'm sorry you cant see it
Who said anything about being seperated by skin color? I said god made man in his image. The first man he made was a Black man and the first woman was a Black woman. Thats not only a biblical fact its a scientific fact.

Dont be sorry. You can make up whatever story you like to rationalize why god didnt first make a white man.

Dont care what color the first man was, I think he was black according to the science I'm aware of, but to think that God is either black or white is ridiculous. Thats where you error. You cant rely on the English translation to understand the "science" of the bible. The words are shallow in meaning compared to the original Hebrew. Your using western thinking when you simplify the definition of Image.
I'm not relying on the western translation. I know those are full of intentional errors. Hebrew is an Afro-asiatic language based on Black people. If god is saying that I am a god then he is comparing me to him. You white people have no clue about african languages. The meanings are too deep for you.

Psalm 82:6 "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'

And yet another Roman Catholic perversion of the Jewish Scripture...
6 I said: Ye are godlike beings, and all of you sons of the Most High.
Psalms 82 / Hebrew Bible in English / Mechon-Mamre

And yes, knowing Hebrew makes ALL the difference.


Yeah, but he said Hebrew is an African Language, so he understands it well. What could the white Jews possibly know about any of these things?
 
I remember as a kid my grandma told me the Hebrews were Black people. Not being particularly religious I didnt think much about it but always believed it. I've been researching this topic for a while now and it seems to be something so easily proven that I am astounded there is a controversy about it. The ancient Hebrews were obviously Black people. The evidence in the Torah/OT is pretty convincing.

Job 30:30 KJV: My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat.
"My skin is black upon me and my bones are burned with heat"

The only people that would suffer from this condition known as starvation induced hyper pigmentation enough to turn Black are dark skinned people such as this type VI person at the end of the Fitzpatrick Skin Type scale

fitzpatrick_skin_type.jpg


Ah, so your saying that violent jewish religion was invented by black people. Now I thought only white people were violent according to you? Now it turns out the evil God of the Jews who commanded the slaughter of untold thousands their neighbors was being followed by black people. I wonder if the peoples they slaughtered were white people? Not that any of this matters to much but seems like an interesting twist coming from you.

I don't believe in skin scales, I really cant imagine someone thinking so hard about someones 'Shade'. I'm sure you could further divide types 1 thru 6 into sub- groups, but then that would be like the DNC
Nope. I said only white people practiced violence in a racial context. No they never messed with white people because they lived in the wilds of europe. Since god was Black as well it makes sense Black people would follow him being made in his image and all.

I never asked you what you believed in. It really doesnt matter because we have medical professionals that do believe in skin type scales.

Skin Types and At-Risk Groups - SkinCancer.org


Your right, you never asked me what I believe in , and likewise, no one ever asked you what you believed in as handed down from your grandmother. Funny how useless information gets tossed around on a message board.

there's nothing more objective than God being either Black or white, its highly doubtful that God being a spirit would have a color like human beings. Especially if he existed before the earth was created.


He doesn't believe in G-d. So how could he believe G-d was black? if he doesn't even believe in G-d's existence:dunno:
Who told you I dont believe in god.
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You've said you're an atheist nutter, unless its inconvenient to push your agenda then you're not:slap:
 
I found them! The black Israelites! and they know where the lost tribes are too!:eek:

This may be Asclepias..But I can't be sure:eusa_think:



This is a better rendering of Black Jews descended from the tribe of Judah according to their oral traditions. The LEMBA.

But to underline their Hebraic roots, I am pleased to inform you that the leaders of one of their clans has tested positive for the Cohen priestly signature at a frequency higher than that of the general Jewish population.

20140111_irp001_0.jpg


Doubtful those people are a hate cult like your boy and these nutjobs..I like the Israeli flag though:thup:




What, no comment on this?:
"But to underline their Hebraic roots, I am pleased to inform you that the leaders of one of their clans has tested positive for the Cohen priestly signature at a frequency higher than that of the general Jewish population."

Google LEMBA and see the true descendants of the Levites and Aaron!



I'm familiar with them, one clan they are also not Jews they don't keep Torah. What's it mean really? Jews where scattered. It stands to reason there would be Jewish (Hebrew) blood throughout the region

Who are YOU to say the Lemba are not Jews. Their claims of being descended from the tribe of Judah is given more weight considering the frequency of Cohen patrilineal DNA occurs among them more than any other Jewish groups. That reality is significantly more powerful than your devalued statement " it stands to reason that there would be (Hebrew )blood throughout the region." Is that all you can say when confronted by the revelation of the Cohen signature being so concentrated in one group more than among other Jewish populations? The Lemba's Cohen connection brings the op clearly into focus and should silence any doubters. But NO, you, the descendent of Ashkenazi proselytes, linger as the worst detractor.



Hey genius, it is more common among one clan of those people, not the entire ethnic group ..Get it straight. My family are priest continually, from the time of Moses, unbroken and we still observe our laws and our book. Those people aren't Jews. Jews are continued through the women anyway not the men.
 
Who said anything about being seperated by skin color? I said god made man in his image. The first man he made was a Black man and the first woman was a Black woman. Thats not only a biblical fact its a scientific fact.

Dont be sorry. You can make up whatever story you like to rationalize why god didnt first make a white man.
Who said anything about being seperated by skin color? I said god made man in his image. The first man he made was a Black man and the first woman was a Black woman. Thats not only a biblical fact its a scientific fact.

Dont be sorry. You can make up whatever story you like to rationalize why god didnt first make a white man.

Dont care what color the first man was, I think he was black according to the science I'm aware of, but to think that God is either black or white is ridiculous. Thats where you error. You cant rely on the English translation to understand the "science" of the bible. The words are shallow in meaning compared to the original Hebrew. Your using western thinking when you simplify the definition of Image.
As long as Caucasians continue to project millions
of images of God and Jesus as White, you shouldn't have any objection to a Black man voicing his opposition to that and using scientific fact to do so.

If someone starts a thread saying God is white , Ill disagree with them the same. As far as Christ goes, I believe he had dark skin, but my objection would remain the same. A spirit doesnt have a color. The image of God is a spiritual meaning that gives value to human beings regardless of what color they are. Im not going to change my opinion on that
Who exactly are you talking about when you say christ? There is no christ. That was a word made up by the Greeks from the word kristos. Greeks were late comers to this so why would you take their perception of things as being correct?


Ok, if the man some people call Christ, or jesus did not exist to you, then there is nothing to talk about there. You know who I meant.


This is a picture taken off an Egyptian tomb of Seti 1 which shows ethnicities of people at the time. your ideas that all white people were living in caves of europe while jews and egyptians were all black are off base. The truth is no one knows for sure what Jews looked like but Abraham originated in the region of Sumer which was up by Turkey or northern Iraq not Egypt. My thought would be that the Jews looked something like a mix of the people depicted below

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Nope try a little harder. Thats a propaganda fresco done by a white person by the name of heinrich von minutoli in 1820.

File:Egyptian races.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

"English: Depicting (from left): a Berber, a Nubian, an Asiatic, and an Egyptian. Drawing by an unknown artist after a mural of the tomb of Seti I; Copy by Heinrich von Minutoli (1820). Note that the skin shades are due to the 19th century illustrator, not the Ancient Egyptian original."

Youre just like most typical whites full of lies and half truths and whats sad is you are still going to lie even when I show you the real one that fresco was supposedly copied from. :laugh:.

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Ah, so your saying that violent jewish religion was invented by black people. Now I thought only white people were violent according to you? Now it turns out the evil God of the Jews who commanded the slaughter of untold thousands their neighbors was being followed by black people. I wonder if the peoples they slaughtered were white people? Not that any of this matters to much but seems like an interesting twist coming from you.

I don't believe in skin scales, I really cant imagine someone thinking so hard about someones 'Shade'. I'm sure you could further divide types 1 thru 6 into sub- groups, but then that would be like the DNC
Nope. I said only white people practiced violence in a racial context. No they never messed with white people because they lived in the wilds of europe. Since god was Black as well it makes sense Black people would follow him being made in his image and all.

I never asked you what you believed in. It really doesnt matter because we have medical professionals that do believe in skin type scales.

Skin Types and At-Risk Groups - SkinCancer.org


Your right, you never asked me what I believe in , and likewise, no one ever asked you what you believed in as handed down from your grandmother. Funny how useless information gets tossed around on a message board.

there's nothing more objective than God being either Black or white, its highly doubtful that God being a spirit would have a color like human beings. Especially if he existed before the earth was created.


He doesn't believe in G-d. So how could he believe G-d was black? if he doesn't even believe in G-d's existence:dunno:
Who told you I dont believe in god.
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You've said you're an atheist nutter, unless its inconvenient to push your agenda then you're not:slap:
When did I say I was an atheist you dummy? Do you have any proof I ever said that? :cool-45:
 
Obviously you dont realize that when one makes a representation of himself you make it look as much like you as you can. Do you care to comment on the questions I brought out instead of pretending that representation doesnt mean the same thing as saying man was made in gods image?

rep·re·sen·ta·tion
ˌreprəˌzenˈtāSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: representation; plural noun: representations

3. a thing, especially a picture or model, that depicts a likeness or reproduction of someone or something.


I mean can you explain why supposedly white people were turned white as punishment instead of being turned Black?


What you dont see is that God transcends Color as we know it. Your just not able to transcend your hangups on skin color. To be made in God's Image - is what seperated us from the animals, Not each other based on skin color.

Man was made in Gods image in that we were made a spiritual being inside with a desire to create even as God creates. Its a deeper meaning, I'm sorry you cant see it
Who said anything about being seperated by skin color? I said god made man in his image. The first man he made was a Black man and the first woman was a Black woman. Thats not only a biblical fact its a scientific fact.

Dont be sorry. You can make up whatever story you like to rationalize why god didnt first make a white man.
Obviously you dont realize that when one makes a representation of himself you make it look as much like you as you can. Do you care to comment on the questions I brought out instead of pretending that representation doesnt mean the same thing as saying man was made in gods image?

rep·re·sen·ta·tion
ˌreprəˌzenˈtāSH(ə)n/

noun
noun: representation; plural noun: representations

3. a thing, especially a picture or model, that depicts a likeness or reproduction of someone or something.


I mean can you explain why supposedly white people were turned white as punishment instead of being turned Black?


What you dont see is that God transcends Color as we know it. Your just not able to transcend your hangups on skin color. To be made in God's Image - is what seperated us from the animals, Not each other based on skin color.

Man was made in Gods image in that we were made a spiritual being inside with a desire to create even as God creates. Its a deeper meaning, I'm sorry you cant see it
Who said anything about being seperated by skin color? I said god made man in his image. The first man he made was a Black man and the first woman was a Black woman. Thats not only a biblical fact its a scientific fact.

Dont be sorry. You can make up whatever story you like to rationalize why god didnt first make a white man.

Dont care what color the first man was, I think he was black according to the science I'm aware of, but to think that God is either black or white is ridiculous. Thats where you error. You cant rely on the English translation to understand the "science" of the bible. The words are shallow in meaning compared to the original Hebrew. Your using western thinking when you simplify the definition of Image.
I'm not relying on the western translation. I know those are full of intentional errors. Hebrew is an Afro-asiatic language based on Black people. If god is saying that I am a god then he is comparing me to him. You white people have no clue about african languages. The meanings are too deep for you.

Psalm 82:6 "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'

Your history according to Louis Farrakan, doesn't mention that Hebrew is more closely related to Aramaic and phenician than African. A language based on Black people? The Jews were a conglomeration of tribes and like many ancient languages they probably borrowed from each other including regions like Ethiopia, but to say Hebrew is based on Black people sounds like your really projecting.

If you do believe in God than your correct, God is comparing you to him, but you can turn down the Farrakan sermon. its not about any one race, its about the spirit and faith in man as given by god.
I have no clue why you were reduced to a logical fallacy attempting to poison the well by bringing up Farrakhan. I never mentioned his name. Your post makes sense because the Phoenicians (as the Canaanites were called by the Greeks) are Black as well. Note i didnt say African while you attempt to claim only Africans can be Black. I know you are using African in the terms of what we currently call African but unfortunately your current white historians neglected to tell you that your earliest white historians called all of current day Africa and the ME on over to India West and East Ethiopia respectively. That kind of puts you in a bind doesnt it?
 
This is a better rendering of Black Jews descended from the tribe of Judah according to their oral traditions. The LEMBA.

But to underline their Hebraic roots, I am pleased to inform you that the leaders of one of their clans has tested positive for the Cohen priestly signature at a frequency higher than that of the general Jewish population.

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Doubtful those people are a hate cult like your boy and these nutjobs..I like the Israeli flag though:thup:




What, no comment on this?:
"But to underline their Hebraic roots, I am pleased to inform you that the leaders of one of their clans has tested positive for the Cohen priestly signature at a frequency higher than that of the general Jewish population."

Google LEMBA and see the true descendants of the Levites and Aaron!



I'm familiar with them, one clan they are also not Jews they don't keep Torah. What's it mean really? Jews where scattered. It stands to reason there would be Jewish (Hebrew) blood throughout the region

Who are YOU to say the Lemba are not Jews. Their claims of being descended from the tribe of Judah is given more weight considering the frequency of Cohen patrilineal DNA occurs among them more than any other Jewish groups. That reality is significantly more powerful than your devalued statement " it stands to reason that there would be (Hebrew )blood throughout the region." Is that all you can say when confronted by the revelation of the Cohen signature being so concentrated in one group more than among other Jewish populations? The Lemba's Cohen connection brings the op clearly into focus and should silence any doubters. But NO, you, the descendent of Ashkenazi proselytes, linger as the worst detractor.



Hey genius, it is more common among one clan of those people, not the entire ethnic group ..Get it straight. My family are priest continually, from the time of Moses, unbroken and we still observe our laws and our book. Those people aren't Jews. Jews are continued through the women anyway not the men.

I always wanted to ask. A jew is jew after the mother but genealogy goes after the father, why is that? I understand the mother part>>>the assurance of jewish ancestry but then why is the male genealogy?
 
Doubtful those people are a hate cult like your boy and these nutjobs..I like the Israeli flag though:thup:




What, no comment on this?:
"But to underline their Hebraic roots, I am pleased to inform you that the leaders of one of their clans has tested positive for the Cohen priestly signature at a frequency higher than that of the general Jewish population."

Google LEMBA and see the true descendants of the Levites and Aaron!



I'm familiar with them, one clan they are also not Jews they don't keep Torah. What's it mean really? Jews where scattered. It stands to reason there would be Jewish (Hebrew) blood throughout the region

Who are YOU to say the Lemba are not Jews. Their claims of being descended from the tribe of Judah is given more weight considering the frequency of Cohen patrilineal DNA occurs among them more than any other Jewish groups. That reality is significantly more powerful than your devalued statement " it stands to reason that there would be (Hebrew )blood throughout the region." Is that all you can say when confronted by the revelation of the Cohen signature being so concentrated in one group more than among other Jewish populations? The Lemba's Cohen connection brings the op clearly into focus and should silence any doubters. But NO, you, the descendent of Ashkenazi proselytes, linger as the worst detractor.



Hey genius, it is more common among one clan of those people, not the entire ethnic group ..Get it straight. My family are priest continually, from the time of Moses, unbroken and we still observe our laws and our book. Those people aren't Jews. Jews are continued through the women anyway not the men.

I always wanted to ask. A jew is jew after the mother but genealogy goes after the father, why is that? I understand the mother part>>>the assurance of jewish ancestry but then why is the male genealogy?

Jroc isnt really a Jew. He doesnt even understand Hebrew. Look up the Cohen gene.
 
Doubtful those people are a hate cult like your boy and these nutjobs..I like the Israeli flag though:thup:




What, no comment on this?:
"But to underline their Hebraic roots, I am pleased to inform you that the leaders of one of their clans has tested positive for the Cohen priestly signature at a frequency higher than that of the general Jewish population."

Google LEMBA and see the true descendants of the Levites and Aaron!



I'm familiar with them, one clan they are also not Jews they don't keep Torah. What's it mean really? Jews where scattered. It stands to reason there would be Jewish (Hebrew) blood throughout the region

Who are YOU to say the Lemba are not Jews. Their claims of being descended from the tribe of Judah is given more weight considering the frequency of Cohen patrilineal DNA occurs among them more than any other Jewish groups. That reality is significantly more powerful than your devalued statement " it stands to reason that there would be (Hebrew )blood throughout the region." Is that all you can say when confronted by the revelation of the Cohen signature being so concentrated in one group more than among other Jewish populations? The Lemba's Cohen connection brings the op clearly into focus and should silence any doubters. But NO, you, the descendent of Ashkenazi proselytes, linger as the worst detractor.



Hey genius, it is more common among one clan of those people, not the entire ethnic group ..Get it straight. My family are priest continually, from the time of Moses, unbroken and we still observe our laws and our book. Those people aren't Jews. Jews are continued through the women anyway not the men.

I always wanted to ask. A jew is jew after the mother but genealogy goes after the father, why is that? I understand the mother part>>>the assurance of jewish ancestry but then why is the male genealogy?


It is assumed that a child born of a married Jewish mother is the child of the father.
This is known as a chah-zah-kah.
 
What, no comment on this?:
"But to underline their Hebraic roots, I am pleased to inform you that the leaders of one of their clans has tested positive for the Cohen priestly signature at a frequency higher than that of the general Jewish population."

Google LEMBA and see the true descendants of the Levites and Aaron!


I'm familiar with them, one clan they are also not Jews they don't keep Torah. What's it mean really? Jews where scattered. It stands to reason there would be Jewish (Hebrew) blood throughout the region
Who are YOU to say the Lemba are not Jews. Their claims of being descended from the tribe of Judah is given more weight considering the frequency of Cohen patrilineal DNA occurs among them more than any other Jewish groups. That reality is significantly more powerful than your devalued statement " it stands to reason that there would be (Hebrew )blood throughout the region." Is that all you can say when confronted by the revelation of the Cohen signature being so concentrated in one group more than among other Jewish populations? The Lemba's Cohen connection brings the op clearly into focus and should silence any doubters. But NO, you, the descendent of Ashkenazi proselytes, linger as the worst detractor.


Hey genius, it is more common among one clan of those people, not the entire ethnic group ..Get it straight. My family are priest continually, from the time of Moses, unbroken and we still observe our laws and our book. Those people aren't Jews. Jews are continued through the women anyway not the men.
I always wanted to ask. A jew is jew after the mother but genealogy goes after the father, why is that? I understand the mother part>>>the assurance of jewish ancestry but then why is the male genealogy?

It is assumed that a child born of a married Jewish mother is the child of the father.
This is known as a chah-zah-kah.
Thank you. It doesn't bother me, I was just curious. It did not seem logical to me.
 
Doubtful those people are a hate cult like your boy and these nutjobs..I like the Israeli flag though:thup:




What, no comment on this?:
"But to underline their Hebraic roots, I am pleased to inform you that the leaders of one of their clans has tested positive for the Cohen priestly signature at a frequency higher than that of the general Jewish population."

Google LEMBA and see the true descendants of the Levites and Aaron!



I'm familiar with them, one clan they are also not Jews they don't keep Torah. What's it mean really? Jews where scattered. It stands to reason there would be Jewish (Hebrew) blood throughout the region

Who are YOU to say the Lemba are not Jews. Their claims of being descended from the tribe of Judah is given more weight considering the frequency of Cohen patrilineal DNA occurs among them more than any other Jewish groups. That reality is significantly more powerful than your devalued statement " it stands to reason that there would be (Hebrew )blood throughout the region." Is that all you can say when confronted by the revelation of the Cohen signature being so concentrated in one group more than among other Jewish populations? The Lemba's Cohen connection brings the op clearly into focus and should silence any doubters. But NO, you, the descendent of Ashkenazi proselytes, linger as the worst detractor.



Hey genius, it is more common among one clan of those people, not the entire ethnic group ..Get it straight. My family are priest continually, from the time of Moses, unbroken and we still observe our laws and our book. Those people aren't Jews. Jews are continued through the women anyway not the men.

I always wanted to ask. A jew is jew after the mother but genealogy goes after the father, why is that? I understand the mother part>>>the assurance of jewish ancestry but then why is the male genealogy?


Tribal, your father determines what tribe you belong, to not weather you're a Jew. There are lots of non Jews with the Cohen Y chromosome
 

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