Zone1 the 2 fallacies in saying : All Scripture is inspired by God not sinful men

[Zebra]

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The fallacy here is that you seem to think you can change the mind of a true believer.

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[Libby von H]

Sorry but you confused me when you wrote "it is a worldwide failure for that reason". I took that to be a reference to Protestant's sola scriptura.

WE have on here an all-or-nothing that is very anti-intellectual
Yes, Protestantism largely stinks but if becoming a Baptist/Methodist/whatever puts you on a true path to God , THAT is good.
You gotta get on the road first, then you travel it.

LOUIS JORDAN song
Right track wrong train (echoes)
Right track wrong train (echoes)
I'm not to blame (echo)
Right track wrong train, train train train hey !

 

[ninja007]

King James Bible
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

 

[Libby von H]

kkk

Does that make them all equal?


Isn't that what Protestants believe, by scripture alone?

As religion is about GOD it makes all respnosibility devolve on YOU ...religion is an intermediary.You can be in the right religion and still go to Hell.

 

[alang1216]

As religion is about GOD it makes all respnosibility devolve on YOU ...religion is an intermediary.You can be in the right religion and still go to Hell.

Is the opposite also true? Can you be in the wrong religion and still go heaven?

 

[Libby von H]

Is the opposite also true? Can you be in the wrong religion and still go heaven?

You can't be in a religion that results from your laziness or triviality. God expects you to do your part and if you investigate, pray, depend on God and act....It is hard to see that His Mercy will not continue to help you. But forget the once-for-all premise of most answers.
IF TODAY you hear His voice harden not your hearts.

 

[Libby von H]

kkk

Does that make them all equal?


Isn't that what Protestants believe, by scripture alone?

NO, their Pope Luther said that the Catholic Pope was wrong to have the extra 7 books in the Bible.
Sola Scriptura has to start with a Pope to tell you what is Scripture !!!

 

[alang1216]

NO, their Pope Luther said that the Catholic Pope was wrong to have the extra 7 books in the Bible.
Sola Scriptura has to start with a Pope to tell you what is Scripture !!!

I thought Nicea set the cannon.

 

[alang1216]

You can't be in a religion that results from your laziness or triviality. God expects you to do your part and if you investigate, pray, depend on God and act....It is hard to see that His Mercy will not continue to help you. But forget the once-for-all premise of most answers.
IF TODAY you hear His voice harden not your hearts.

So anyone who stays in the religion of their parents may be in trouble. That's the vast majority of people.

 

[The Irish Ram]

There is a code in the Bible that could not be unlocked until the advent of the computer. Every letter in the Bible had to be God inspired for the code to work.

 

[Libby von H]

I thought Nicea set the cannon.

It set it but it existed a gillion years before that. Just not official. ANyway,nothing is Faith solely from the Bible

 

[alang1216]

There is a code in the Bible that could not be unlocked until the advent of the computer. Every letter in the Bible had to be God inspired for the code to work.

Wow! It works in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek? That is some code.

 

[The Irish Ram]

It works completely in Hebrew. Jesus is encoded in the New Testament.

 

[Meriweather]

So anyone who stays in the religion of their parents may be in trouble. That's the vast majority of people.

Or...it gives them a leg up on their own studies and adventures. It does happen that way as well.

 

[alang1216]

Or...it gives them a leg up on their own studies and adventures. It does happen that way as well.

Sure can, but the vast majority of believers don't convert and I doubt very many, seriously study other religions and then choose to remain in their own.

 

[alang1216]

It works completely in Hebrew.

Cool. Got a link to share?

Jesus is encoded in the New Testament.

The NT is in Greek, does it work there too?

 

[Meriweather]

Sure can, but the vast majority of believers don't convert and I doubt very many, seriously study other religions and then choose to remain in their own.

It's like this: It's not that astronomers don't know oceanography, it's that they know space better. There is only so much time in a day--or one's life. When one finds a treasure that holds much for them, they are not that excited about leaving that treasure behind. It is those who do not find/see the treasure in their parent's home who should do serious study in other religions/faiths.

 

[ding]

“If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself.”

Amen

God Lite. All the joy with none of the obligations and duties to God.

 

[ding]

So scripture is inspired by God using sinful man. It is your 3rd fallacy to split that apart

The way I see it the books were written by fallible men who were inspired by the Holy Spirit which used their fallibility to write these accounts in certain ways for certain purposes known only to the infallible Holy Spirit. Not much different than how we navigate the complexities of life today. In a logical universe everything is connected to everything else.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Cool. Got a link to share?


The NT is in Greek, does it work there too?

Goggle it. It isn't anew revelation.