The 12-Steps of Avoiding LGBT Blackmail & Career Destruction

Never mind, Sil, who is maligantly motivated, mentally feeble, or just woefully ignorant as to the facts and the law.

Read Utah same-sex marriage proponents also want Supreme Court review | The Salt Lake Tribune for a good review of what is going on with Utah.

That's funny because when they announced that the European Convention on Human Rights found against gay marriage being some sort of "human right" here recently [a Decision that is binding on 49 countries], that same article mentioned how our Supreme Court had found that states have the right to thumbs up or down gay marriage:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...urt-rules-gay-marriage-not-a-human-right.html

From the OP link there:

The highest human rights court in Europe shattered hopes that it would judicially impose same-sex marriage when it told a male to female transsexual and his wife that a civil union should be good enough for them.

European human rights law does not require countries to “grant access to marriage to same-sex couples,” according to a judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in a case that tests the remote boundaries of possibility in law and fact....

...The European court was unequivocal. It not only said that European human rights law does not contemplate same-sex marriage, it said that civil unions are good enough for same-sex couples....

...The court confirmed that the protection of the traditional institution of marriage is a valid state interest—implicitly endorsing the view that relations between persons of the same sex are not identical to marriage between a man and a woman, and may be treated differently in law...

...The U.S. Supreme Court declined to say that marriage between persons of the same sex is a right under the U.S. Constitution or international law last year. In a case involving a law that prohibited the U.S. federal government from recognizing marriages between persons of the same sex, the Court ruled that individual states may decide whether or not to allow individuals of the same sex to marry each other.

Hmmm...it seems that 49 countries are thinking the same thing I am legally about gay marriage...

So the minority conclusions would be yours Jake, and not mine.
 
Sil is simply babbling.

Read Utah same-sex marriage proponents also want Supreme Court review | The Salt Lake Tribune for finding out what is really happening and the real issues.

You mean the people reporting on the European Convention on Human Rights were "babbling"? I just copied and pasted what they said about Windsor last year...

Hint: Silbabble is what you do when you are realistic and realize you are losing.

Hint: the 10th District case and SCOTUS interpretation of the law and the Constitution are all that matters.
 
Sil is simply babbling.

Read Utah same-sex marriage proponents also want Supreme Court review | The Salt Lake Tribune for finding out what is really happening and the real issues.

You mean the people reporting on the European Convention on Human Rights were "babbling"? I just copied and pasted what they said about Windsor last year...

Hint: Silbabble is what you do when you are realistic and realize you are losing.

Hint: the 10th District case and SCOTUS interpretation of the law and the Constitution are all that matters.
But the gay agenda and Harvey milk and Mozilla and waa waa waa.
 
You mean the people reporting on the European Convention on Human Rights were "babbling"? I just copied and pasted what they said about Windsor last year...

Hint: Silbabble is what you do when you are realistic and realize you are losing.

Hint: the 10th District case and SCOTUS interpretation of the law and the Constitution are all that matters.
But the gay agenda and Harvey milk and Mozilla and waa waa waa.

And Windsor said states get to say yes or no to gay marriage...waa waa waa....
 
In response to Political Torch's "Spam till you make it campaign" here at USMB... http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/366279-rick-perry-offered-12-step-recovery-program.html

Step 1-We admitted we were powerless over the Gay Agenda - that our own governance had become unmanageable

Step 2 - Came to believe that a baseless Lawsuit greater than ourselves could restore us to poverty

Step 3 - Made a decision to turn our moral code and our courage over to the care of Political Expediency as we were fooled via false polling data to believe this was "the real American thought trend"

Step 4 - Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of constituents from the false information in step 3

Step 5 - Confessed under this blackmail and torture to the church of LGBT, to ourselves and to the main stream media the exact nature of our "wrongs"

Step 6 - Were entirely readied to be deprogrammed as to these "defects of character"

Step 7 - Humbly asked LGBT not to remove our career if we caved in and did their bidding

Step 8 - Made a list of all persons we had told our truth to, and became willing to spin the gay dogma to them all instead

Step 9 - Made direct spin to such people wherever possible, even knowing that to do so would injure them or others; particularly children

Step 10 - Continued to feel the pressure of the Gay Agenda and when we were "wrong" promptly "admitted it"

Step 11 - Sought through schools and pride parades to improve LGBT contact with children as we understood this is their end game, praying only that history books will leave us out of this for misusing our power to carry that out

Step 12 - Having had a "spiritual awakening" as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to other soothsayers, and to not risk further blackmail in all our affairs

Stay wise readers. Stay courageous. Never give in.

It really only takes one step. Stop thinking other people's sex lives are any of your business.

When they stop Parading their Sex Lives on Public Streets in Parades and Asking for Special Laws and Special Rights for the Deviancy, maybe we will...

Maybe when they stop Infiltrating the Schools and Targeting Younger and Younger Students with thier Sex Lives...

But will they stop?

:)

peace...
 
SCOTUS has no problem with states regulating marriage, and it has no trouble with kicking states' assess if they violate the Constitution while so doing.
 
Windsor is not absolute. SCOTUS retains the authority to correct any violation of peoples' rights to marry.
 
Windsor might get over turned.

In less than two years' time?

Has that ever happened before?
I get it, you wish that after Obama leaves office that the fag mafia (I sure you have used that term before) will be dismantled by the tea party ?

Nope. I have full faith in the American people and their vote. State by state gays must make their case as it is said in Windsor, retroactive to the founding of the country.

Each side will have their say in the media and at the end of it all in each state, a vote or referendum will be held according to their customs. The results of that will be law. If laws already exist maintaining marriage as "between a man and a woman", that is the law until the democratic process in each state votes differently. In California, in order to render Prop 8 not a law, binding, legal and enforceable, means a new vote by the People to amend or revoke it. That's the only way it can be changed now unless SCOTUS overturns itself next year.

Glad to see y'all have settled finally on Windsor being binding law.
 
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In less than two years' time?

Has that ever happened before?
I get it, you wish that after Obama leaves office that the fag mafia (I sure you have used that term before) will be dismantled by the tea party ?

Nope. I have full faith in the American people and their vote. State by state gays must make their case as it is said in Windsor, retroactive to the founding of the country.

Each side will have their say in the media and at the end of it all in each state, a vote or referendum will be held according to their customs. The results of that will be law. If laws already exist maintaining marriage as "between a man and a woman", that is the law until the democratic process in each state votes differently. In California, in order to render Prop 8 not a law, binding, legal and enforceable, means a new vote by the People to amend or revoke it. That's the only way it can be changed now unless SCOTUS overturns itself next year.

Glad to see y'all have settled finally on Windsor being binding law.
bullshit and bullshit again, prop 8 was found unconstitutional

Prop. 8: Gay-marriage ban unconstitutional, court rules | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

as to Winsor you're dreaming.
 
The appeal on the overturning of Prop 8 and the vacated ruling because of standing was not a "constitutional ruling" on Prop 8. It was a procedural ruling. There was a constitutional ruling on Prop 8 via Windsor though. That was that states get to decide and when they do, the fed has to abide by what they say. To further accentuate that Finding, Utah recently pled citing Windsor that its state's voters must have their vote to define marriage as between a man and a woman protected. And on that specific pleading, the stay was granted.

That says that the Utah AG's interpretation of Windsor as being "state's choice" was correct. And since we know not just one state may enjoy the right of having its democratically-enacted law protected, all of them must be construed as protected....including Prop 8 which was enacted in precisely the same way the Utah law was.
 
bullshit and bullshit again, prop 8 was found unconstitutional

Prop. 8: Gay-marriage ban unconstitutional, court rules | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

as to Winsor you're dreaming.
This is another perfect example of how the OP shows even in the face of a SCOTUS verdict Affirming a state's constitutional right to define marriage for itself with respect to "same sex marriage", the Gay Gestapo reassures everyone that California still may not practice democracy like Utah does. That's fascism.
 

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