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$100 an hour is too high
$10-$15 an hour is more justified
Why is it too high? I think $50-$75 an hour would be fair. It would increase our income tax revenue. It would allow those that are on subsidies to get off and save the government billions.
Republicans have threatened escalating prices every time a minimum wage increase was proposed
Prices will go through the roof
People will lose their jobs
Hasn't happened
I think I have proposed it in a couple of threads already but in case you missed it. I argue that we should forget about this paltry $15 crap and raise the national minimum wage to a REAL living wage of $100/hr. But the thing is, as soon as I said it... the liberals clamoring for $15 hr. minimum wage began to ridicule my suggestion and claim I wasn't being "serious" about it. I'm totally serious... to heck with all this constant and perpetual complaining, let's do something to end this whinefest once and for all!
I mean... For 82 years, since FDR introduced us to the MW, it has been promised this will deliver a decent living wage for all Americans. Each time it has been raised, the promise is again renewed. If only we can raise it a little more.... it's always the same tune. So I say we go ahead and raise the minimum wage to $100/hr. so that everyone in America will be making a decent living wage. What's wrong with my idea?
The only reason I keep being given is "that's just not reasonable" but no real explanation as to why? I think it's very reasonable... look at all these CEOs making millions... look at all these corporations with record profits... look at all these 1% people in their mansions and yachts... surely we can afford to pay lowly "workers" a decent wage! Come on, where is your Communist spirit, liberals? Why would you prefer to waste your time fighting for a measly $15 when you could have $100? All the camping out and shitting on cop cars for such a small increase seems sort of dumb when you can go for something meaningful like a $100/hr. minimum wage! I just don't understand why you're not on board with my plan.
I've really tried to figure out why the left is so opposed to my idea. Is it because such an increase would actually solve the wage disparity problem and there wouldn't be a need for their perpetual activism anymore? Man, it's really gonna suck whenever we reach Utopia and you guys don't have anything to protest for anymore, isn't it? What in the world will you do with all that time? I guess if it were me, I would be scared of such ideas because it might render my life meaningless... nothing to fight for anymore, no more crusade to join... such a boring life!
Just take a minute and imagine it... All we have to do is elect enough politicians who will simply pass a law! Once we've set the new $100/hr. MW, well... the greedy rich bastard capitalists will just have to fork over the loot man! What choice do they have, right? Guess they'll just have to give up those profits and high-paid CEOs! They'll figure it out, they always do! Anywayz... what does it matter if you're knocking down the big bucks? You'll be rolling with fat stacks! Who cares if it puts some greedy rich old white bastard out of business? Maybe they NEED to be out of business? If they can't afford a decent living wage, they shouldn't be allowed to exist, right? I mean... that IS what FDR said 82 years ago.
$100 an hour is too high
$10-$15 an hour is more justified
Why is it too high? I think $50-$75 an hour would be fair. It would increase our income tax revenue. It would allow those that are on subsidies to get off and save the government billions.
Republicans have threatened escalating prices every time a minimum wage increase was proposed
Prices will go through the roof
People will lose their jobs
Hasn't happened
See Yarddog? ...rightwinger sez it won't happen! That proves it won't because he is so smart!
I think I have proposed it in a couple of threads already but in case you missed it. I argue that we should forget about this paltry $15 crap and raise the national minimum wage to a REAL living wage of $100/hr. But the thing is, as soon as I said it... the liberals clamoring for $15 hr. minimum wage began to ridicule my suggestion and claim I wasn't being "serious" about it. I'm totally serious... to heck with all this constant and perpetual complaining, let's do something to end this whinefest once and for all!
I mean... For 82 years, since FDR introduced us to the MW, it has been promised this will deliver a decent living wage for all Americans. Each time it has been raised, the promise is again renewed. If only we can raise it a little more.... it's always the same tune. So I say we go ahead and raise the minimum wage to $100/hr. so that everyone in America will be making a decent living wage. What's wrong with my idea?
The only reason I keep being given is "that's just not reasonable" but no real explanation as to why? I think it's very reasonable... look at all these CEOs making millions... look at all these corporations with record profits... look at all these 1% people in their mansions and yachts... surely we can afford to pay lowly "workers" a decent wage! Come on, where is your Communist spirit, liberals? Why would you prefer to waste your time fighting for a measly $15 when you could have $100? All the camping out and shitting on cop cars for such a small increase seems sort of dumb when you can go for something meaningful like a $100/hr. minimum wage! I just don't understand why you're not on board with my plan.
I've really tried to figure out why the left is so opposed to my idea. Is it because such an increase would actually solve the wage disparity problem and there wouldn't be a need for their perpetual activism anymore? Man, it's really gonna suck whenever we reach Utopia and you guys don't have anything to protest for anymore, isn't it? What in the world will you do with all that time? I guess if it were me, I would be scared of such ideas because it might render my life meaningless... nothing to fight for anymore, no more crusade to join... such a boring life!
Just take a minute and imagine it... All we have to do is elect enough politicians who will simply pass a law! Once we've set the new $100/hr. MW, well... the greedy rich bastard capitalists will just have to fork over the loot man! What choice do they have, right? Guess they'll just have to give up those profits and high-paid CEOs! They'll figure it out, they always do! Anywayz... what does it matter if you're knocking down the big bucks? You'll be rolling with fat stacks! Who cares if it puts some greedy rich old white bastard out of business? Maybe they NEED to be out of business? If they can't afford a decent living wage, they shouldn't be allowed to exist, right? I mean... that IS what FDR said 82 years ago.
Or, you can give what the middle class, small business, and retirees need:
-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.
-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.
-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.
-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.
-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.
-Remove the FICA limit.
-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.
-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.
-Make inversion illegal.
My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.
My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.
My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.
My plan would end all welfare.
My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.
My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.
Republicans have threatened escalating prices every time a minimum wage increase was proposed
Prices will go through the roof
People will lose their jobs
Hasn't happened
See Yarddog? ...rightwinger sez it won't happen! That proves it won't because he is so smart!
Moving from $7.25 to $15 over a period of five years will not destroy the economy or bring business to its knees
I saw minimum wage rise from $2 to $4 and in spite of dire threats of catastrophe from the right.....unemployment didn't skyrocket and prices didn't rise
The market adjusted
Republicans have threatened escalating prices every time a minimum wage increase was proposed
Prices will go through the roof
People will lose their jobs
Hasn't happened
See Yarddog? ...rightwinger sez it won't happen! That proves it won't because he is so smart!
Moving from $7.25 to $15 over a period of five years will not destroy the economy or bring business to its knees
I saw minimum wage rise from $2 to $4 and in spite of dire threats of catastrophe from the right.....unemployment didn't skyrocket and prices didn't rise
The market adjusted
Right... so it shouldn't be a problem going from $7.25 to $100 either. Same principles are in play. The market will adjust.
Republicans have threatened escalating prices every time a minimum wage increase was proposed
Prices will go through the roof
People will lose their jobs
Hasn't happened
See Yarddog? ...rightwinger sez it won't happen! That proves it won't because he is so smart!
Moving from $7.25 to $15 over a period of five years will not destroy the economy or bring business to its knees
I saw minimum wage rise from $2 to $4 and in spite of dire threats of catastrophe from the right.....unemployment didn't skyrocket and prices didn't rise
The market adjusted
Right... so it shouldn't be a problem going from $7.25 to $100 either. Same principles are in play. The market will adjust.
More nonsense trying to rescue your ridiculous premise
If you want to raise the wage $7 why not $93. Why not $1000?
Double down on hyperboleRepublicans have threatened escalating prices every time a minimum wage increase was proposed
Prices will go through the roof
People will lose their jobs
Hasn't happened
See Yarddog? ...rightwinger sez it won't happen! That proves it won't because he is so smart!
Moving from $7.25 to $15 over a period of five years will not destroy the economy or bring business to its knees
I saw minimum wage rise from $2 to $4 and in spite of dire threats of catastrophe from the right.....unemployment didn't skyrocket and prices didn't rise
The market adjusted
Right... so it shouldn't be a problem going from $7.25 to $100 either. Same principles are in play. The market will adjust.
More nonsense trying to rescue your ridiculous premise
If you want to raise the wage $7 why not $93. Why not $1000?
Rescue a ridiculous premise? ...And to think, I just told someone how smart you are? My "premise" is the same as yours... I want people to make a decent living wage! You, and others like you, have been arguing that an increase to $15 won't effect prices or the economy... So why not raise it to $100? ...Isn't $100 better than $15? Wouldn't that solve the "wealth disparity" problem for the most part? If it doesn't effect prices at $15 then it shouldn't effect prices at $100. It makes no rational sense why it would. It's just a different number, it doesn't change the principles or premise.
What is ridiculous is that you're opposed to a $100 MW, apparently. And you can't really give me any good reason why. I keep asking you... I've asked others here to explain it, and all I get is eye-rolling.
Double down on hyperbole
And hey guys and gals... we can get into some really heavy dynamic thinking on this....
Okay, with a $100 MW, maybe we don't need the 40-hr. work weeks anymore? You can work an 8-hr. shift down at the music store every few days and make $800.... maybe every job in America would have 3-4 people doing it instead of one? Think of all the employment this would create? All of a sudden, everybody is working their part-time job making really good money! No one is on welfare, 'cause, why would you be? At $100 an hour, you can't afford to be on welfare. You'd want to be working, doing something... minding the convenience store... being a security guard... watching rugrats... something. It's all gonna pay $100 hr., so anything will do.
We'd literally have 0% unemployment I bet!
I think I have proposed it in a couple of threads already but in case you missed it. I argue that we should forget about this paltry $15 crap and raise the national minimum wage to a REAL living wage of $100/hr. But the thing is, as soon as I said it... the liberals clamoring for $15 hr. minimum wage began to ridicule my suggestion and claim I wasn't being "serious" about it. I'm totally serious... to heck with all this constant and perpetual complaining, let's do something to end this whinefest once and for all!
I mean... For 82 years, since FDR introduced us to the MW, it has been promised this will deliver a decent living wage for all Americans. Each time it has been raised, the promise is again renewed. If only we can raise it a little more.... it's always the same tune. So I say we go ahead and raise the minimum wage to $100/hr. so that everyone in America will be making a decent living wage. What's wrong with my idea?
The only reason I keep being given is "that's just not reasonable" but no real explanation as to why? I think it's very reasonable... look at all these CEOs making millions... look at all these corporations with record profits... look at all these 1% people in their mansions and yachts... surely we can afford to pay lowly "workers" a decent wage! Come on, where is your Communist spirit, liberals? Why would you prefer to waste your time fighting for a measly $15 when you could have $100? All the camping out and shitting on cop cars for such a small increase seems sort of dumb when you can go for something meaningful like a $100/hr. minimum wage! I just don't understand why you're not on board with my plan.
I've really tried to figure out why the left is so opposed to my idea. Is it because such an increase would actually solve the wage disparity problem and there wouldn't be a need for their perpetual activism anymore? Man, it's really gonna suck whenever we reach Utopia and you guys don't have anything to protest for anymore, isn't it? What in the world will you do with all that time? I guess if it were me, I would be scared of such ideas because it might render my life meaningless... nothing to fight for anymore, no more crusade to join... such a boring life!
Just take a minute and imagine it... All we have to do is elect enough politicians who will simply pass a law! Once we've set the new $100/hr. MW, well... the greedy rich bastard capitalists will just have to fork over the loot man! What choice do they have, right? Guess they'll just have to give up those profits and high-paid CEOs! They'll figure it out, they always do! Anywayz... what does it matter if you're knocking down the big bucks? You'll be rolling with fat stacks! Who cares if it puts some greedy rich old white bastard out of business? Maybe they NEED to be out of business? If they can't afford a decent living wage, they shouldn't be allowed to exist, right? I mean... that IS what FDR said 82 years ago.
Or, you can give what the middle class, small business, and retirees need:
-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.
-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.
-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.
-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.
-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.
-Remove the FICA limit.
-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.
-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.
-Make inversion illegal.
My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.
My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.
My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.
My plan would end all welfare.
My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.
My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.
Republicans have threatened escalating prices every time a minimum wage increase was proposed
Prices will go through the roof
People will lose their jobs
Hasn't happened
See Yarddog? ...rightwinger sez it won't happen! That proves it won't because he is so smart!
Moving from $7.25 to $15 over a period of five years will not destroy the economy or bring business to its knees
I saw minimum wage rise from $2 to $4 and in spite of dire threats of catastrophe from the right.....unemployment didn't skyrocket and prices didn't rise
The market adjusted
Conservatives act as though the cost of labor is the only business challenge that a business faces. The costs of goods and services go up, rents go up, taxes go up, advertising costs go up
Yet Conservatives don't turn on landlords raising their rents, suppliers increasing the cost of hamburgers or god forbid, Corporate Executives...they turn on the people earning the least
Why are they not screaming that these increases will cost jobs or cause the price of a hamburger to double? It seems only a minimum wage increase can do this
Businesses have been benefiting from a minimum wage of $7.25 that has been frozen for seven years. Other costs have gone up, the price of labor hasn't. Time to end the free ride and return minimum wage to where it should be
I suppose you'll be giving up some butt hole soon.I think I have proposed it in a couple of threads already but in case you missed it. I argue that we should forget about this paltry $15 crap and raise the national minimum wage to a REAL living wage of $100/hr. But the thing is, as soon as I said it... the liberals clamoring for $15 hr. minimum wage began to ridicule my suggestion and claim I wasn't being "serious" about it. I'm totally serious... to heck with all this constant and perpetual complaining, let's do something to end this whinefest once and for all!
I mean... For 82 years, since FDR introduced us to the MW, it has been promised this will deliver a decent living wage for all Americans. Each time it has been raised, the promise is again renewed. If only we can raise it a little more.... it's always the same tune. So I say we go ahead and raise the minimum wage to $100/hr. so that everyone in America will be making a decent living wage. What's wrong with my idea?
The only reason I keep being given is "that's just not reasonable" but no real explanation as to why? I think it's very reasonable... look at all these CEOs making millions... look at all these corporations with record profits... look at all these 1% people in their mansions and yachts... surely we can afford to pay lowly "workers" a decent wage! Come on, where is your Communist spirit, liberals? Why would you prefer to waste your time fighting for a measly $15 when you could have $100? All the camping out and shitting on cop cars for such a small increase seems sort of dumb when you can go for something meaningful like a $100/hr. minimum wage! I just don't understand why you're not on board with my plan.
I've really tried to figure out why the left is so opposed to my idea. Is it because such an increase would actually solve the wage disparity problem and there wouldn't be a need for their perpetual activism anymore? Man, it's really gonna suck whenever we reach Utopia and you guys don't have anything to protest for anymore, isn't it? What in the world will you do with all that time? I guess if it were me, I would be scared of such ideas because it might render my life meaningless... nothing to fight for anymore, no more crusade to join... such a boring life!
Just take a minute and imagine it... All we have to do is elect enough politicians who will simply pass a law! Once we've set the new $100/hr. MW, well... the greedy rich bastard capitalists will just have to fork over the loot man! What choice do they have, right? Guess they'll just have to give up those profits and high-paid CEOs! They'll figure it out, they always do! Anywayz... what does it matter if you're knocking down the big bucks? You'll be rolling with fat stacks! Who cares if it puts some greedy rich old white bastard out of business? Maybe they NEED to be out of business? If they can't afford a decent living wage, they shouldn't be allowed to exist, right? I mean... that IS what FDR said 82 years ago.
Conservatives act as though the cost of labor is the only business challenge that a business faces. The costs of goods and services go up, rents go up, taxes go up, advertising costs go up
Yet Conservatives don't turn on landlords raising their rents, suppliers increasing the cost of hamburgers or god forbid, Corporate Executives...they turn on the people earning the least
Why are they not screaming that these increases will cost jobs or cause the price of a hamburger to double? It seems only a minimum wage increase can do this
Businesses have been benefiting from a minimum wage of $7.25 that has been frozen for seven years. Other costs have gone up, the price of labor hasn't. Time to end the free ride and return minimum wage to where it should be
Well, I am not turning on anyone here. I am proposing a $100/hr. minimum wage and you are having trouble explaining why this is a nonsensical idea or why it wouldn't work. You've presented an argument for raising it to $15 and tell us the data shows it won't increase prices or cost jobs. If there is no negative side effects, we should increase it to $100. I accept your argument, I believe you... it won't cost jobs or make prices go up... so let's raise it to $100/hr. and give people a REAL living wage. Why are you opposing me?
When you say "return the minimum wage to where it should be" and you're only wanting it to be at $15... makes me think you don't grasp the problem or maybe you don't want to solve it? Like... Perhaps you'd rather have people stuck at $15 for the next decade or so while you run around politicking and promising to fight for another increase? Like your party has been doing for the past 82 years. Promising a living wage but not ever fully delivering on that promise as this would render you useless.
I say we dismiss you small-thinkers and adopt a minimum wage with teeth! Heck, there's no harm in raising it... you've shown us all the charts and data... So why not raise it to $100?
..................Still waiting!
