Texas: Conservative Paradise, 25 Billion dollars in the hole.

No Unions, piss poor education, terrible public services and basically a gimme state in terms of the Fed, it's STILL in the hole.

Krugman's take:

Op-Ed Columnist
The Texas Omen
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: January 6, 2011

How bad is the Texas deficit? Comparing budget crises among states is tricky, for technical reasons. Still, data from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities suggest that the Texas budget gap is worse than New York’s, about as bad as California’s, but not quite up to New Jersey levels.

The point, however, is that just the other day Texas was being touted as a role model (and still is by commentators who haven’t been keeping up with the news). It was the state the recession supposedly passed by, thanks to its low taxes and business-friendly policies. Its governor boasted that its budget was in good shape thanks to his “tough conservative decisions.”

Oh, and at a time when there’s a full-court press on to demonize public-sector unions as the source of all our woes, Texas is nearly demon-free: less than 20 percent of public-sector workers there are covered by union contracts, compared with almost 75 percent in New York.

So what happened to the “Texas miracle” many people were talking about even a few months ago?

Part of the answer is that reports of a recession-proof state were greatly exaggerated. It’s true that Texas job losses haven’t been as severe as those in the nation as a whole since the recession began in 2007. But Texas has a rapidly growing population — largely, suggests Harvard’s Edward Glaeser, because its liberal land-use and zoning policies have kept housing cheap. There’s nothing wrong with that; but given that rising population, Texas needs to create jobs more rapidly than the rest of the country just to keep up with a growing work force.

And when you look at unemployment, Texas doesn’t seem particularly special: its unemployment rate is below the national average, thanks in part to high oil prices, but it’s about the same as the unemployment rate in New York or Massachusetts.

What about the budget? The truth is that the Texas state government has relied for years on smoke and mirrors to create the illusion of sound finances in the face of a serious “structural” budget deficit — that is, a deficit that persists even when the economy is doing well. When the recession struck, hitting revenue in Texas just as it did everywhere else, that illusion was bound to collapse.

The only thing that let Gov. Rick Perry get away, temporarily, with claims of a surplus was the fact that Texas enacts budgets only once every two years, and the last budget was put in place before the depth of the economic downturn was clear. Now the next budget must be passed — and Texas may have a $25 billion hole to fill. Now what?

Given the complete dominance of conservative ideology in Texas politics, tax increases are out of the question. So it has to be spending cuts.

Yet Mr. Perry wasn’t lying about those “tough conservative decisions”: Texas has indeed taken a hard, you might say brutal, line toward its most vulnerable citizens. Among the states, Texas ranks near the bottom in education spending per pupil, while leading the nation in the percentage of residents without health insurance. It’s hard to imagine what will happen if the state tries to eliminate its huge deficit purely through further cuts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/07/opinion/07krugman.html?_r=1&src=ISMR_HP_LO_MST_FB

Yippee-ka-yay Motherfuckers.:lol:

What a funny article. Imagine how terrible for Texas to eliminate over spending by not spending. That is just fucking crazy.

It’s hard to imagine what will happen if the state tries to eliminate its huge deficit purely through further cuts.

Yes, further cuts, government has suffered enough. To burden government with further decreases in spending is tyranny.

Imagine the cruelty.
 
California is dominated by True Believer liberals and is even deeper in the hole with no end in sight.

Thanks to people like Wry Catcher, who collect obscene public employee pensions.

so should Wry give it back?....would you if you put in your time with that pension being promised at the end and you worked and got there....would you give it back?....i sure as hell would not.....

I don't care what he does with it, but it affects his credibility to speak to the issue here.
 
Yes, further cuts, government has suffered enough. To burden government with further decreases in spending is tyranny.

Imagine the cruelty.

The whole thing sorta went whoosh..

I will break it down for you.
-Low taxes.
-More back from the Federal Government then they put in.
-Oil.
-Poor or non-existent public services.

And STILL in the hole.:lol:
 
Yes, further cuts, government has suffered enough. To burden government with further decreases in spending is tyranny.

Imagine the cruelty.

The whole thing sorta went whoosh..

I will break it down for you.
-Low taxes.
-More back from the Federal Government then they put in.
-Oil.
-Poor or non-existent public services.

And STILL in the hole.:lol:

Thenn stay in New York, asshole, where you pay a lot more in taxes and get the same non-existent services.

Does that make you happy?

Hey, is it snowing again? Are the rats looking to fatten up on all the uncollected garbage again?
 
No Unions, piss poor education, terrible public services and basically a gimme state in terms of the Fed, it's STILL in the hole.

Krugman's take:

Yippee-ka-yay Motherfuckers.:lol:


Well, lets see,...they can still sell off the capital building and other government offices like Arizona did. Or maybe they already did that.:eek:

They just got lazy assed people in Texas that won't work and support the state, and refuse to pay taxes like most cons. But then there is the possibility they like their state like that, and would asoon shut down the schools & home school, etc. A Libertarian dream!!
 
No Unions, piss poor education, terrible public services and basically a gimme state in terms of the Fed, it's STILL in the hole.

Krugman's take:

Yippee-ka-yay Motherfuckers.:lol:


Well, lets see,...they can still sell off the capital building and other government offices like Arizona did. Or maybe they already did that.:eek:

They just got lazy assed people in Texas that won't work and support the state, and refuse to pay taxes like most cons. But then there is the possibility they like their state like that, and would asoon shut down the schools & home school, etc. A Libertarian dream!!

Shallow gets the exact same shit in New York for twice the taxes!

Is he a bargain hunter or what?
 
Yes, further cuts, government has suffered enough. To burden government with further decreases in spending is tyranny.

Imagine the cruelty.

The whole thing sorta went whoosh..

I will break it down for you.
-Low taxes.
-More back from the Federal Government then they put in.
-Oil.
-Poor or non-existent public services.

And STILL in the hole.:lol:

Thenn stay in New York, asshole, where you pay a lot more in taxes and get the same non-existent services.

Does that make you happy?

Hey, is it snowing again? Are the rats looking to fatten up on all the uncollected garbage again?

Awww..

Hurt much Revere?

Your hero shit state is a sinkin..
 
Sallow was already proven full of shit on the notion that Texas receives more Federal dollars than it pays in taxes.

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While it's true that Texas pays like a "Blue" State, a couple of things do come to light. Alaska gets a lot of government subsidies when they have so much oil money they pay their citizens to live there. Thank Gawd for half governor Sarah Palin.
And Texas, for a state that also has oil, why are they in the hole? The are nothing like Blue States. They are so hostile to "education" they want to redefine science and re-write history.
They don't pay for almost anything and they have many military bases the government is paying them rent for.

So, the Texas equation: Oil Money + Government Money + plus paying nothing on Education + Paying nothing on infrastructure = Bankrupt. This is how conservatives govern. How many examples do we need?
 
Sallow was already proven full of shit on the notion that Texas receives more Federal dollars than it pays in taxes.

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While it's true that Texas pays like a "Blue" State, a couple of things do come to light. Alaska gets a lot of government subsidies when they have so much oil money they pay their citizens to live there. Thank Gawd for half governor Sarah Palin.
And Texas, for a state that also has oil, why are they in the hole? The are nothing like Blue States. They are so hostile to "education" they want to redefine science and re-write history.
They don't pay for almost anything and they have many military bases the government is paying them rent for.

So, the Texas equation: Oil Money + Government Money + plus paying nothing on Education + Paying nothing on infrastructure = Bankrupt. This is how conservatives govern. How many examples do we need?


So they are not a net recipient of Federal outlays/taxes.
 
No Unions, piss poor education, terrible public services and basically a gimme state in terms of the Fed, it's STILL in the hole.

Krugman's take:

Op-Ed Columnist
The Texas Omen
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: January 6, 2011

How bad is the Texas deficit? Comparing budget crises among states is tricky, for technical reasons. Still, data from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities suggest that the Texas budget gap is worse than New York’s, about as bad as California’s, but not quite up to New Jersey levels.

The point, however, is that just the other day Texas was being touted as a role model (and still is by commentators who haven’t been keeping up with the news). It was the state the recession supposedly passed by, thanks to its low taxes and business-friendly policies. Its governor boasted that its budget was in good shape thanks to his “tough conservative decisions.”

Oh, and at a time when there’s a full-court press on to demonize public-sector unions as the source of all our woes, Texas is nearly demon-free: less than 20 percent of public-sector workers there are covered by union contracts, compared with almost 75 percent in New York.

So what happened to the “Texas miracle” many people were talking about even a few months ago?

Part of the answer is that reports of a recession-proof state were greatly exaggerated. It’s true that Texas job losses haven’t been as severe as those in the nation as a whole since the recession began in 2007. But Texas has a rapidly growing population — largely, suggests Harvard’s Edward Glaeser, because its liberal land-use and zoning policies have kept housing cheap. There’s nothing wrong with that; but given that rising population, Texas needs to create jobs more rapidly than the rest of the country just to keep up with a growing work force.

And when you look at unemployment, Texas doesn’t seem particularly special: its unemployment rate is below the national average, thanks in part to high oil prices, but it’s about the same as the unemployment rate in New York or Massachusetts.

What about the budget? The truth is that the Texas state government has relied for years on smoke and mirrors to create the illusion of sound finances in the face of a serious “structural” budget deficit — that is, a deficit that persists even when the economy is doing well. When the recession struck, hitting revenue in Texas just as it did everywhere else, that illusion was bound to collapse.

The only thing that let Gov. Rick Perry get away, temporarily, with claims of a surplus was the fact that Texas enacts budgets only once every two years, and the last budget was put in place before the depth of the economic downturn was clear. Now the next budget must be passed — and Texas may have a $25 billion hole to fill. Now what?

Given the complete dominance of conservative ideology in Texas politics, tax increases are out of the question. So it has to be spending cuts.

Yet Mr. Perry wasn’t lying about those “tough conservative decisions”: Texas has indeed taken a hard, you might say brutal, line toward its most vulnerable citizens. Among the states, Texas ranks near the bottom in education spending per pupil, while leading the nation in the percentage of residents without health insurance. It’s hard to imagine what will happen if the state tries to eliminate its huge deficit purely through further cuts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/07/opinion/07krugman.html?_r=1&src=ISMR_HP_LO_MST_FB

Yippee-ka-yay Motherfuckers.:lol:
So you dig deep and discover some dopey lib columnist has decided to attack a "red" state ansd you expect what? Cheers for your discovery? Hey creature boy. why dodn;t you do your own homework instead of posting someone else's stuff?

If you really want credbility for your pro public worker union( Krugman's thrust in the column) stance, go ahead and show data on state budget deficits between states which do not permit collective bargaining for public sector workers and those states which do.
Then present that data in the context of Krugman's column...
I can save you a heap of time. You will find that the states in which unions are strong and offer workers civil service protections are much worse shape than states which do not. Additionally, taxes are MUCH lower in the non-union states simply because it costs MUCH LESS to pay the employees.
Look, the movement to stop public worker pay abuse is ON..
This was coming. And if some did not see this,to bad for them...We've had enough.
I think public workers should earn market rate wages and market rate benefits.
Public workers in big union states have been taking care of each other for far too long.
In this link one can click on a particular town and see the pattern. many family members and generation after generation from the same families securing these jobs and holding onto them for life. It's a closed club in most NJ Towns.

New Jersey by the Numbers - NJ.com

You'll never convince anyone with half a brain that a system where the servers are the highest paid workers in a state and those workers are supported by exhorbitant tax rates is a good idea. Obviously that type of system does not work. Otherwise this would not be an issue.
And like Krugman, you bought into the notion that the movement toward getting rid of expensive union contracts in the public sector is purely political. Nonsense. It's about the fiscal survival of states and fending off angry taxpayers.
 
The whole thing sorta went whoosh..

I will break it down for you.
-Low taxes.
-More back from the Federal Government then they put in.
-Oil.
-Poor or non-existent public services.

And STILL in the hole.:lol:

Thenn stay in New York, asshole, where you pay a lot more in taxes and get the same non-existent services.

Does that make you happy?

Hey, is it snowing again? Are the rats looking to fatten up on all the uncollected garbage again?

Awww..

Hurt much Revere?

Your hero shit state is a sinkin..

I don't live there.

What good are all your higher taxes if your city still stinks when you need those services?
 
No Unions, piss poor education, terrible public services and basically a gimme state in terms of the Fed, it's STILL in the hole.

Krugman's take:

Op-Ed Columnist
The Texas Omen
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Published: January 6, 2011

How bad is the Texas deficit? Comparing budget crises among states is tricky, for technical reasons. Still, data from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities suggest that the Texas budget gap is worse than New York’s, about as bad as California’s, but not quite up to New Jersey levels.

The point, however, is that just the other day Texas was being touted as a role model (and still is by commentators who haven’t been keeping up with the news). It was the state the recession supposedly passed by, thanks to its low taxes and business-friendly policies. Its governor boasted that its budget was in good shape thanks to his “tough conservative decisions.”

Oh, and at a time when there’s a full-court press on to demonize public-sector unions as the source of all our woes, Texas is nearly demon-free: less than 20 percent of public-sector workers there are covered by union contracts, compared with almost 75 percent in New York.

So what happened to the “Texas miracle” many people were talking about even a few months ago?

Part of the answer is that reports of a recession-proof state were greatly exaggerated. It’s true that Texas job losses haven’t been as severe as those in the nation as a whole since the recession began in 2007. But Texas has a rapidly growing population — largely, suggests Harvard’s Edward Glaeser, because its liberal land-use and zoning policies have kept housing cheap. There’s nothing wrong with that; but given that rising population, Texas needs to create jobs more rapidly than the rest of the country just to keep up with a growing work force.

And when you look at unemployment, Texas doesn’t seem particularly special: its unemployment rate is below the national average, thanks in part to high oil prices, but it’s about the same as the unemployment rate in New York or Massachusetts.

What about the budget? The truth is that the Texas state government has relied for years on smoke and mirrors to create the illusion of sound finances in the face of a serious “structural” budget deficit — that is, a deficit that persists even when the economy is doing well. When the recession struck, hitting revenue in Texas just as it did everywhere else, that illusion was bound to collapse.

The only thing that let Gov. Rick Perry get away, temporarily, with claims of a surplus was the fact that Texas enacts budgets only once every two years, and the last budget was put in place before the depth of the economic downturn was clear. Now the next budget must be passed — and Texas may have a $25 billion hole to fill. Now what?

Given the complete dominance of conservative ideology in Texas politics, tax increases are out of the question. So it has to be spending cuts.

Yet Mr. Perry wasn’t lying about those “tough conservative decisions”: Texas has indeed taken a hard, you might say brutal, line toward its most vulnerable citizens. Among the states, Texas ranks near the bottom in education spending per pupil, while leading the nation in the percentage of residents without health insurance. It’s hard to imagine what will happen if the state tries to eliminate its huge deficit purely through further cuts.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/07/opinion/07krugman.html?_r=1&src=ISMR_HP_LO_MST_FB
Yippee-ka-yay Motherfuckers.:lol:

Slight difference between Texas and California.

The budget will be balanced by the time the legislature is over, and the legislature will go home by the end of summer.
 
And like Krugman, you bought into the notion that the movement toward getting rid of expensive union contracts in the public sector is purely political. Nonsense. It's about the fiscal survival of states and fending off angry taxpayers.

Unions will not now or ever be illegal. Get use to it.

Outlaw Unions and you can look forward to France..circa the revolution.
 
I don't live there.

What good are all your higher taxes if your city still stinks when you need those services?

My streets were plowed just fine. I live in Manhattan. Very happy with the services. Everything is 24/7.
 
Texas will solve their problem for one reason alone. It is dominated with elected officals who are callous conservatives. Not giving a damn about people, and able to get away with dismissing human suffering with a causal, "it's all about personal responsibility" will give them cover.

How is that worse than what they do in California? Which makes more sense, living within you budget, or continually putting off the choices that need to be made in the hope that money will magically appear?
 

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