Testimony of Alberto Rivera - Ex-Jesuit

[Penelope]

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

 

[irosie91]

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

I did not notice the link------as for the story of Joseph -----its in the bible-----genesis.. On several occasions Joseph
reassures that all is ok between them and that he is
delighted to have them----despite what they did to him----
his death bed speech is remarkable in its tone for
conciliation. Try reading it You gave me a link to the concept
of "secular jewism"??? "jewism" is not a word in the English lexicon-------it has been rarely used as a slang word
by islamo Nazi dogs and sows---to refer to anything the sows and dogs ima

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

I can see why a weak minded person like you would be confused by the WIKKI article. You seem to imagine that
"secular" for jews means atheist------It doesn't. It refers to
people who do not engage assiduously in ritual----in fact only a few of the people noted in the article were actually atheist---- Haym Nachman Bialik certainly was not-----his poetry is actually religion oriented---VERY MUCH SO. Marc Chagall certainly was not------in fact he engaged in ritual---
I was surprised when I was in some old synagogue to discover that it was the one Marc Chagall attended regularly-----an orthodox synagogue. I am not sure how freud described himself-----Einstein described himself as an agnostic. Among jews if one uses the computer on
Saturday----THAT is a secular jew. You would not be
expected to know this stuff. ---it is kinda like a catholic
being "lapsed" because she takes birth control pills----it
does not make her an atheist. I have no idea how you
conclude that all Israeli politicians are atheists

 

[Penelope]

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

I did not notice the link------as for the story of Joseph -----its in the bible-----genesis.. On several occasions Joseph
reassures that all is ok between them and that he is
delighted to have them----despite what they did to him----
his death bed speech is remarkable in its tone for
conciliation. Try reading it You gave me a link to the concept
of "secular jewism"??? "jewism" is not a word in the English lexicon-------it has been rarely used as a slang word
by islamo Nazi dogs and sows---to refer to anything the sows and dogs ima

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

I can see why a weak minded person like you would be confused by the WIKKI article. You seem to imagine that
"secular" for jews means atheist------It doesn't. It refers to
people who do not engage assiduously in ritual----in fact only a few of the people noted in the article were actually atheist---- Haym Nachman Bialik certainly was not-----his poetry is actually religion oriented---VERY MUCH SO. Marc Chagall certainly was not------in fact he engaged in ritual---
I was surprised when I was in some old synagogue to discover that it was the one Marc Chagall attended regularly-----an orthodox synagogue. I am not sure how freud described himself-----Einstein described himself as an agnostic. Among jews if one uses the computer on
Saturday----THAT is a secular jew. You would not be
expected to know this stuff. ---it is kinda like a catholic
being "lapsed" because she takes birth control pills----it
does not make her an atheist. I have no idea how you
conclude that all Israeli politicians are atheists

No Joseph forgave them, he never said when he was being sold to the slave traders, its for the best. Secular Jews see Judaism as a tradition. Please read history, the father (so called father ) of the Zionism was an atheist. Right now as we speak Moshe the PM of defense wants gay marriage in Israel, that will surely make the Muslims happy. I guess we can say the maj of Jews in the world are lapsed.

 

[irosie91]

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

I did not notice the link------as for the story of Joseph -----its in the bible-----genesis.. On several occasions Joseph
reassures that all is ok between them and that he is
delighted to have them----despite what they did to him----
his death bed speech is remarkable in its tone for
conciliation. Try reading it You gave me a link to the concept
of "secular jewism"??? "jewism" is not a word in the English lexicon-------it has been rarely used as a slang word
by islamo Nazi dogs and sows---to refer to anything the sows and dogs ima

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

I can see why a weak minded person like you would be confused by the WIKKI article. You seem to imagine that
"secular" for jews means atheist------It doesn't. It refers to
people who do not engage assiduously in ritual----in fact only a few of the people noted in the article were actually atheist---- Haym Nachman Bialik certainly was not-----his poetry is actually religion oriented---VERY MUCH SO. Marc Chagall certainly was not------in fact he engaged in ritual---
I was surprised when I was in some old synagogue to discover that it was the one Marc Chagall attended regularly-----an orthodox synagogue. I am not sure how freud described himself-----Einstein described himself as an agnostic. Among jews if one uses the computer on
Saturday----THAT is a secular jew. You would not be
expected to know this stuff. ---it is kinda like a catholic
being "lapsed" because she takes birth control pills----it
does not make her an atheist. I have no idea how you
conclude that all Israeli politicians are atheists

No Joseph forgave them, he never said when he was being sold to the slave traders, its for the best. Secular Jews see Judaism as a tradition. Please read history, the father (so called father ) of the Zionism was an atheist. Right now as we speak Moshe the PM of defense wants gay marriage in Israel, that will surely make the Muslims happy. I guess we can say the maj of Jews in the world are lapsed.

who is "we" ----??? you can say any idiotic thing you wish-------It is correct to say that Joseph did not say anything
as he was being sold other than "I read and write Hebrew"
It was later on when his brothers showed up in Egypt to buy
wheat and he recognized them and "outed" himself----and
he did comment on some notion that it might even be good--
both at that time and on his death bed------you should try
reading the book
Lots of islamo Nazis insist that Herzl
invented Zionism------wrong again. What Herzl invented
was ZIONISM not necessarily attached to religion and that is
all---------gee you are dim Prior to Herzl there were many
Zionist movements-----but all entirely consisting of jews very
adherent to ----the old time religion. He sought a Zionism of
the ENLIGHTENMENT----which does not necessarily mean
atheism but does not completely reject it. I believe that if
you struggle -----even you can grasp the idea

 

[LA RAM FAN]

HEY JERIMIAH,since there is no way for me to contact you,could you pm me and give me your email address?

 

[RandomVariable]

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

Genesis 50:20

 

[irosie91]

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

Genesis 50:20

thanks random------I was too damned lazy to look

 

[RandomVariable]

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

Genesis 50:20

thanks random------I was too damned lazy to look

NP. I happened to remember where it was. The children of Israel were a pretty deviant bunch.

 

[Penelope]

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

Genesis 50:20

thank you very much.
19 But Joseph said to them, “Fear not, for am I in the place of God? 20 As for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today. 21 So do not fear; I will provide for you and your little ones.” Thus he reassured them and comforted them.

You get the prize, but they were still evil and what they did was evil. Does God have people do evil things?

 

[RandomVariable]

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

Genesis 50:20

thank you very much.
19 But Joseph said to them, “Fear not, for am I in the place of God? 20 As for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today. 21 So do not fear; I will provide for you and your little ones.” Thus he reassured them and comforted them.

You get the prize, but they were still evil and what they did was evil. Does God have people do evil things?

Am I in the place of God?

 

[irosie91]

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

Genesis 50:20

thank you very much.
19 But Joseph said to them, “Fear not, for am I in the place of God? 20 As for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today. 21 So do not fear; I will provide for you and your little ones.” Thus he reassured them and comforted them.

You get the prize, but they were still evil and what they did was evil. Does God have people do evil things?

you made no point------it was an account of an event---historical ----recorded for its heuristic value-----gee you are dim. No one claimed that they were paragons of virtue----
only muhummad and his band of merry rapists and pillagers
are PERFECT

 

[Penelope]

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

Genesis 50:20

thank you very much.
19 But Joseph said to them, “Fear not, for am I in the place of God? 20 As for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today. 21 So do not fear; I will provide for you and your little ones.” Thus he reassured them and comforted them.

You get the prize, but they were still evil and what they did was evil. Does God have people do evil things?

you made no point------it was an account of an event---historical ----recorded for its heuristic value-----gee you are dim. No one claimed that they were paragons of virtue----
only muhummad and his band of merry rapists and pillagers
are PERFECT

historical, I doubt it.

 

[irosie91]

nope Penelope------I can find nothing labeled
"secular jewism"

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

Genesis 50:20

thank you very much.
19 But Joseph said to them, “Fear not, for am I in the place of God? 20 As for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today. 21 So do not fear; I will provide for you and your little ones.” Thus he reassured them and comforted them.

You get the prize, but they were still evil and what they did was evil. Does God have people do evil things?

you made no point------it was an account of an event---historical ----recorded for its heuristic value-----gee you are dim. No one claimed that they were paragons of virtue----
only muhummad and his band of merry rapists and pillagers
are PERFECT

historical, I doubt it.

no doubt you doubt-----why should you value any ancient writing?------your minimind functions independently of all
records and all reality

 

[Muhammed]

Do you see the IHS? Do you know why these initials are lifted up as God?
In Egypt, the IHS stood for their gods......

The Egyptians didn't use the English alphabet. They used heiroglyphs.

 

[Penelope]

I gave you a link, click on it and read. Where did Joseph tell his brothers, Its ok, it'll turn out for the best , chapter and verse please.

Genesis 50:20

thank you very much.
19 But Joseph said to them, “Fear not, for am I in the place of God? 20 As for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today. 21 So do not fear; I will provide for you and your little ones.” Thus he reassured them and comforted them.

You get the prize, but they were still evil and what they did was evil. Does God have people do evil things?

you made no point------it was an account of an event---historical ----recorded for its heuristic value-----gee you are dim. No one claimed that they were paragons of virtue----
only muhummad and his band of merry rapists and pillagers
are PERFECT

historical, I doubt it.

no doubt you doubt-----why should you value any ancient writing?------your minimind functions independently of all
records and all reality

Most of the stuff in the OT is not supported by historical facts. Even Moses is up to debate, I mean they lived less years back then not more, and also there may of been a group who traveled through the desert and got lost out there and they may of made up laws, like most societies do, but the commandments are really mans aren't they? Moses wanted everyone to worship one God, Yahweh, but of course they just couldn't , they loved the non Hebrew women. I do believe some of the battles, but the new evidence says that the Jews in Babylon were not slaves, which sounds more like it, since so few came back when King Cyrus said they could. They loved the city of Babylon.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Genesis 50:20

thank you very much.
19 But Joseph said to them, “Fear not, for am I in the place of God? 20 As for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today. 21 So do not fear; I will provide for you and your little ones.” Thus he reassured them and comforted them.

You get the prize, but they were still evil and what they did was evil. Does God have people do evil things?

you made no point------it was an account of an event---historical ----recorded for its heuristic value-----gee you are dim. No one claimed that they were paragons of virtue----
only muhummad and his band of merry rapists and pillagers
are PERFECT

historical, I doubt it.

no doubt you doubt-----why should you value any ancient writing?------your minimind functions independently of all
records and all reality

Most of the stuff in the OT is not supported by historical facts. Even Moses is up to debate, I mean they lived less years back then not more, and also there may of been a group who traveled through the desert and got lost out there and they may of made up laws, like most societies do, but the commandments are really mans aren't they? Moses wanted everyone to worship one God, Yahweh, but of course they just couldn't , they loved the non Hebrew women. I do believe some of the battles, but the new evidence says that the Jews in Babylon were not slaves, which sounds more like it, since so few came back when King Cyrus said they could. They loved the city of Babylon.

Not a word Moses spoke that the Lord had given him fell to the ground, Penelope. Indeed today we see it all coming to pass. What did the LORD tell Moses in Numbers 33:50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55?

It is written:

And the LORD spoke to Moses in the plains of Moab by Jordan near Jericho, saying Speak unto the Children of Israel, and say unto them, When you pass over Jordan into the Canaan;
Then shall you drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places.
And you shall dispossess the inhabitants of the land, and dwell therein: for I have given you the land to possess it.
And you shall divide the land by lot for an inheritance among your families, and to the more you shall give the more inheritance, and to the fewer you shall give the less inheritance: every man's inheritance shall be in the place where his lot falls.
Verse 55 - But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then it shall come to pass, that those which you let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein you shall dwell.

Numbers 33: 50-55

Now listen to this, Penelope. After the 6 day war the IDF had taken back the Temple Mount and the Arabs had fled for their lives. There wasn't a dry eye up there as the Israelis realized that G-d had been with them and given them the victory and the Temple Mount!

Rabbi Shlomo Gorin (don't know if his last name is spelled correctly) told General Uzi to take dynamite and blow up the Al Asqa Mosques because it was now the time to do it. The Temple Mount would then be prepared to rebuild the Temple and the people could worship G-d rightly by destroying the High Places and the idols and that godless heathen Mosque! But No! General Uzi told the Rabbi to be quiet or he would have him arrested! So the Rabbi left quietly and the rest? The rest is history. Because this was the moment that Israel was coming back into their inheritance but they could not have it on their own terms of permitting that high place to remain and the pagan Arabs with them - yet that is precisely what they did because they feared man more than they feared God. To seal their fate - by ignoring the warning G-d gave Moses about such a thing - they did one more thing...............They gave the Temple Mount back to the Arabs after having it in their own possession! They actually won that victory fair and square and had the Temple Mount in their possession but gave it AWAY TO THE ARABS!!!!!!!!!!!

Big mistake. Huge!

The rest is history as they say.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Do you see the IHS? Do you know why these initials are lifted up as God?
In Egypt, the IHS stood for their gods......

The Egyptians didn't use the English alphabet. They used heiroglyphs.

Are you telling this board that you don't believe that Isis, Horus and Seb were the gods of the Egyptians and that they didn't have a wafer in their name which was then taken as the idea for the pagan Roman Institution to use in the form of their own wafer - IHS? You're too late. Google IHS - Isis, Horus, Seb and you'll find much information about it! Here! Read up!
Hebrew Vision News The Egyptian Idol Worship And False Doctrine Roots Of The Roman Catholic Church

Oh and meet "Mary and baby Jesus". The Roman Catholic Mary and Jesus better known as Semirimus and Tammus her son. A false Mary and a false Christ the Roman Catholics worship. Today they are dressed for the part of deceiving the world. Who knew? (Besides the sons of hell who started the Roman Institution - they knew alright! )

 

[Penelope]

thank you very much.
19 But Joseph said to them, “Fear not, for am I in the place of God? 20 As for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today. 21 So do not fear; I will provide for you and your little ones.” Thus he reassured them and comforted them.

You get the prize, but they were still evil and what they did was evil. Does God have people do evil things?

you made no point------it was an account of an event---historical ----recorded for its heuristic value-----gee you are dim. No one claimed that they were paragons of virtue----
only muhummad and his band of merry rapists and pillagers
are PERFECT

historical, I doubt it.

no doubt you doubt-----why should you value any ancient writing?------your minimind functions independently of all
records and all reality

Most of the stuff in the OT is not supported by historical facts. Even Moses is up to debate, I mean they lived less years back then not more, and also there may of been a group who traveled through the desert and got lost out there and they may of made up laws, like most societies do, but the commandments are really mans aren't they? Moses wanted everyone to worship one God, Yahweh, but of course they just couldn't , they loved the non Hebrew women. I do believe some of the battles, but the new evidence says that the Jews in Babylon were not slaves, which sounds more like it, since so few came back when King Cyrus said they could. They loved the city of Babylon.

Not a word Moses spoke that the Lord had given him fell to the ground, Penelope. Indeed today we see it all coming to pass. What did the LORD tell Moses in Numbers 33:50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55?

It is written:

And the LORD spoke to Moses in the plains of Moab by Jordan near Jericho, saying Speak unto the Children of Israel, and say unto them, When you pass over Jordan into the Canaan;
Then shall you drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places.
And you shall dispossess the inhabitants of the land, and dwell therein: for I have given you the land to possess it.
And you shall divide the land by lot for an inheritance among your families, and to the more you shall give the more inheritance, and to the fewer you shall give the less inheritance: every man's inheritance shall be in the place where his lot falls.
Verse 55 - But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then it shall come to pass, that those which you let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein you shall dwell.

Numbers 33: 50-55

Now listen to this, Penelope. After the 6 day war the IDF had taken back the Temple Mount and the Arabs had fled for their lives. There wasn't a dry eye up there as the Israelis realized that G-d had been with them and given them the victory and the Temple Mount!

Rabbi Shlomo Gorin (don't know if his last name is spelled correctly) told General Uzi to take dynamite and blow up the Al Asqa Mosques because it was now the time to do it. The Temple Mount would then be prepared to rebuild the Temple and the people could worship G-d rightly by destroying the High Places and the idols and that godless heathen Mosque! But No! General Uzi told the Rabbi to be quiet or he would have him arrested! So the Rabbi left quietly and the rest? The rest is history. Because this was the moment that Israel was coming back into their inheritance but they could not have it on their own terms of permitting that high place to remain and the pagan Arabs with them - yet that is precisely what they did because they feared man more than they feared God. To seal their fate - by ignoring the warning G-d gave Moses about such a thing - they did one more thing...............They gave the Temple Mount back to the Arabs after having it in their own possession! They actually won that victory fair and square and had the Temple Mount in their possession but gave it AWAY TO THE ARABS!!!!!!!!!!!

Big mistake. Huge!

The rest is history as they say.

Everyone is so upset over Pres. Obama's speech the other day about the crusades and slavery and yet you want to go by writing that is what 2400 years ago, of which most has no basis in historical fact. The Hebrews were slaughtering in the name of God in the OT and they are doing it again, even though the majority of their government is atheist. Now they are talking about gay marriage in Israel, I imagine that is to piss off the Muslims. I do not see things as you do, but I understand you listen to all these tv preachers that preach this stuff.

 

[Penelope]

Do you see the IHS? Do you know why these initials are lifted up as God?
In Egypt, the IHS stood for their gods......

The Egyptians didn't use the English alphabet. They used heiroglyphs.

Are you telling this board that you don't believe that Isis, Horus and Seb were the gods of the Egyptians and that they didn't have a wafer in their name which was then taken as the idea for the pagan Roman Institution to use in the form of their own wafer - IHS? You're too late. Google IHS - Isis, Horus, Seb and you'll find much information about it! Here! Read up!
Hebrew Vision News The Egyptian Idol Worship And False Doctrine Roots Of The Roman Catholic Church

Oh and meet "Mary and baby Jesus". The Roman Catholic Mary and Jesus better known as Semirimus and Tammus her son. A false Mary and a false Christ the Roman Catholics worship. Today they are dressed for the part of deceiving the world. Who knew? (Besides the sons of hell who started the Roman Institution - they knew alright! )

There were lots of woman child messiahs and Gods, that is what Mary and Jesus came from. Its copied from ancient religions, meant for that day, not today. Now we know about the ancient religions , back then most people didn't.

That is your Jesus as well.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Genesis 50:20

thank you very much.
19 But Joseph said to them, “Fear not, for am I in the place of God? 20 As for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today. 21 So do not fear; I will provide for you and your little ones.” Thus he reassured them and comforted them.

You get the prize, but they were still evil and what they did was evil. Does God have people do evil things?

you made no point------it was an account of an event---historical ----recorded for its heuristic value-----gee you are dim. No one claimed that they were paragons of virtue----
only muhummad and his band of merry rapists and pillagers
are PERFECT

historical, I doubt it.

no doubt you doubt-----why should you value any ancient writing?------your minimind functions independently of all
records and all reality

Most of the stuff in the OT is not supported by historical facts. Even Moses is up to debate, I mean they lived less years back then not more, and also there may of been a group who traveled through the desert and got lost out there and they may of made up laws, like most societies do, but the commandments are really mans aren't they? Moses wanted everyone to worship one God, Yahweh, but of course they just couldn't , they loved the non Hebrew women. I do believe some of the battles, but the new evidence says that the Jews in Babylon were not slaves, which sounds more like it, since so few came back when King Cyrus said they could. They loved the city of Babylon.

you made no point------it was an account of an event---historical ----recorded for its heuristic value-----gee you are dim. No one claimed that they were paragons of virtue----
only muhummad and his band of merry rapists and pillagers
are PERFECT

historical, I doubt it.

no doubt you doubt-----why should you value any ancient writing?------your minimind functions independently of all
records and all reality

Most of the stuff in the OT is not supported by historical facts. Even Moses is up to debate, I mean they lived less years back then not more, and also there may of been a group who traveled through the desert and got lost out there and they may of made up laws, like most societies do, but the commandments are really mans aren't they? Moses wanted everyone to worship one God, Yahweh, but of course they just couldn't , they loved the non Hebrew women. I do believe some of the battles, but the new evidence says that the Jews in Babylon were not slaves, which sounds more like it, since so few came back when King Cyrus said they could. They loved the city of Babylon.

Not a word Moses spoke that the Lord had given him fell to the ground, Penelope. Indeed today we see it all coming to pass. What did the LORD tell Moses in Numbers 33:50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55?

It is written:

And the LORD spoke to Moses in the plains of Moab by Jordan near Jericho, saying Speak unto the Children of Israel, and say unto them, When you pass over Jordan into the Canaan;
Then shall you drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places.
And you shall dispossess the inhabitants of the land, and dwell therein: for I have given you the land to possess it.
And you shall divide the land by lot for an inheritance among your families, and to the more you shall give the more inheritance, and to the fewer you shall give the less inheritance: every man's inheritance shall be in the place where his lot falls.
Verse 55 - But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then it shall come to pass, that those which you let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein you shall dwell.

Numbers 33: 50-55

Now listen to this, Penelope. After the 6 day war the IDF had taken back the Temple Mount and the Arabs had fled for their lives. There wasn't a dry eye up there as the Israelis realized that G-d had been with them and given them the victory and the Temple Mount!

Rabbi Shlomo Gorin (don't know if his last name is spelled correctly) told General Uzi to take dynamite and blow up the Al Asqa Mosques because it was now the time to do it. The Temple Mount would then be prepared to rebuild the Temple and the people could worship G-d rightly by destroying the High Places and the idols and that godless heathen Mosque! But No! General Uzi told the Rabbi to be quiet or he would have him arrested! So the Rabbi left quietly and the rest? The rest is history. Because this was the moment that Israel was coming back into their inheritance but they could not have it on their own terms of permitting that high place to remain and the pagan Arabs with them - yet that is precisely what they did because they feared man more than they feared God. To seal their fate - by ignoring the warning G-d gave Moses about such a thing - they did one more thing...............They gave the Temple Mount back to the Arabs after having it in their own possession! They actually won that victory fair and square and had the Temple Mount in their possession but gave it AWAY TO THE ARABS!!!!!!!!!!!

Big mistake. Huge!

The rest is history as they say.

Everyone is so upset over Pres. Obama's speech the other day about the crusades and slavery and yet you want to go by writing that is what 2400 years ago, of which most has no basis in historical fact. The Hebrews were slaughtering in the name of God in the OT and they are doing it again, even though the majority of their government is atheist. Now they are talking about gay marriage in Israel, I imagine that is to piss off the Muslims. I do not see things as you do, but I understand you listen to all these tv preachers that preach this stuff.

I do not listen to tv preachers other than to check up on how much worse it is getting - money gospel - and see if there is anyone left even listening to the Holy Spirit, Penelope. I'm not upset by Obama's speech about the crusades. I'm upset that he didn't articulate that the Roman Catholic Vatican was slaughtering Protestant Christians and Jews during the Inquisitions, holocaust, and burned hundreds of thousands of innocent people at the stake! That is what I am upset about! That he didn't make it clear that the Roman Catholic Institution IS NOT A CHRISTIAN CHURCH!!!!!!!