Terri Schiavo's Husband: Jeb Bush 'Put Me Through Hell'

[tinydancer]

I rarely differ with many of you on issues but on this one I do because there were opposing medical opinions about Terri's state; because the money well at one point was there for her continued care till Mikey started blowing it away on lawyers to kill her; because only Michael and his brother and sister in law said they heard Terri say she wouldn't want to live this way BUT there was no living will; because her parents and her family were ready willing and able to continue her care I believe with all my heart you err on the side of life every time.

The money was in a trust and he couldn't spend a dime without court approval. Which he had, by the way, to pay for legal expenses incurred during his efforts to have Terri's feeding tube removed.

He spent the money to whack her. That's perverse.

No matter what way you shake it out using your estranged wife's winnings from a malpractice suit to "kill her for own good" is as warped as can be.

"Fund for Schiavo's medical care dwindles
By ANITA KUMAR and J. NEALY-BROWN

© St. Petersburg Times,
published June 3, 2001

Throughout the long, messy battle over whether Terri Schiavo should be kept alive, her husband and parents have accused each other of wanting to control her fate to get their hands on her hundreds of thousands of dollars.

But by the time the bitter feud finally ends, there might not be any left.

The $700,000 or so earmarked for Mrs. Schiavo's medical care for the rest of her life has dwindled to about $350,000, court records show. Most was spent in the past two years on the intense legal fight that made its way to the U.S. Supreme Court and is still not over.

The money, which came from a 1992 medical malpractice case, has been used for Mrs. Schiavo's medical bills; her husband's attorney, who is fighting to remove her feeding tube; and a bank that manages the money.

Records show that George Felos, Michael Schiavo's litigation attorney, has been paid more than $200,000 since 1997. Another Schiavo attorney, Deborah Bushnell, got $27,000. Schiavo himself was reimbursed almost $6,000 for legal costs.

Other expenses include private aides, security guards hired after the publicity led to a ruckus outside Mrs. Schiavo's nursing home and a lawyer appointed by a judge to represent Mrs. Schiavo in court.

"One of the problems when people fight is that the people who make out the best are the lawyers," Sarasota financial planner Margery Schiller said.

As his wife's legal guardian, Schiavo is entitled to use the money, but only if it is in her best interests. Schiavo says he is trying to do that by following her wishes not to be kept alive after lapsing into a persistent vegetative state 11 years ago."

More at link:

Tampabay Fund for Schiavo s medical care dwindles

He didn't "whack" her, you rightwing psychopath. He followed the most humane path possible.

Michael preferred killing Terri rather than allowing her family to take care of her and you have the balls to call me a psychopath?

Now that's funny.

Yes, you're the psychopath. Michael humanely ended the horrible predicament Terri was in and you pathologically call that "whacking" her. Her parents wanted to extend that. Michael did what was right for Terri.

Why did she have to be put down?
What predicament was she in? She wasn't terminal. Her family was willing to take care of her.

Why did Michael have to put her down?

Legally whacked for all the world to witness one of the most barbaric acts evah! Starving and dehydrating a woman to death.

 

[tinydancer]

Again- link.

Because none of this came up when the hospital was being sued for negligence for her condition.

Research Dr. William Hammesfahr, neurologist paid for by the parents and you will find out why BlueGin has been reluctant to provide and proof of her claims. B.G. has claimed that he was her (Terri's neurologist, implying a prior relationship), when in actuality he was the parents neurologist.


>>>>

Multiple differing opinions on Terri's condition.

What I find particularly distasteful is Michael was using the money put aside for Terri's medical care to try to get a judgement to kill her.

This is what you called whacked out beyond belief.

Libs don't care they wanted her dead to score political points. They are worse than her scum husband.

I can't believe that son of a bitch is out there whining and moaning about how his life was made "hell" because it took so long legally get Terri whacked.

What an asshole.

Yep testimony from a nursing home RN stated that he repeatedly would get pissed and ask was she dead yet? When was this bitch going to die?

Yet no one saw this as a conflict in interest.

The "do not resuscitate" in '93 was a flag. A big flag. He'd gotten his money from the malpractice suit and all of a sudden went from "I'll love her and keep her safe forever during the trial" to "do not resuscitate".

 

[BlueGin]

I believe the neurologist that testified that Terri came to the hospital with a neck injury caused by strangulation when she was originally treated. Plus testimony by friends and family of verbal and mental abuse.

I don't really care what you believe. Thought you realized that. Oh well.

Again- link.

Because none of this came up when the hospital was being sued for negligence for her condition.

Research Dr. William Hammesfahr, neurologist paid for by the parents and you will find out why BlueGin has been reluctant to provide proof of her claims. B.G. has claimed that he was her (Terri's neurologist, implying a prior relationship), when in actuality he was the parents neurologist.


>>>>

So every time somebody gets a second opinion and pays for it, the doctor providing the service is lying?

Any other brilliant insights you want to add?

Ya, how about this one.

The doctors and neurologist that examined Terri that night, in the days that followed and in the months that followed are more likely to correct about an attack/strangulation neck injury then someone that does an examination 12-years after the fact and ignores all the tests and patient descriptions from that night.

The reason for BlueGin not being willing to post a link to "Terri's neurologist" (her term not mine) that examined 12-years later is not understood.

>>>>

Wrong. I wasn't reading a link. I was referring to the trial transcripts. All of which until recently were not available online ( wonder why) . But reguardless...pardon me for calling one of the dr's " her neurologist" . I still directed you to read the testimony.

 

[BlueGin]

Research Dr. William Hammesfahr, neurologist paid for by the parents and you will find out why BlueGin has been reluctant to provide and proof of her claims. B.G. has claimed that he was her (Terri's neurologist, implying a prior relationship), when in actuality he was the parents neurologist.


>>>>

Multiple differing opinions on Terri's condition.

What I find particularly distasteful is Michael was using the money put aside for Terri's medical care to try to get a judgement to kill her.

This is what you called whacked out beyond belief.

Libs don't care they wanted her dead to score political points. They are worse than her scum husband.

I can't believe that son of a bitch is out there whining and moaning about how his life was made "hell" because it took so long legally get Terri whacked.

What an asshole.

Yep testimony from a nursing home RN stated that he repeatedly would get pissed and ask was she dead yet? When was this bitch going to die?

Yet no one saw this as a conflict in interest.

The "do not resuscitate" in '93 was a flag. A big flag. He'd gotten his money from the malpractice suit and all of a sudden went from "I'll love her and keep her safe forever during the trial" to "do not resuscitate".

How about him slipping up on Larry King live the day of her tube removal and stating that he really didn't know what Terri wanted. But that's what "they" wanted.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I believe the neurologist that testified that Terri came to the hospital with a neck injury caused by strangulation when she was originally treated. Plus testimony by friends and family of verbal and mental abuse.

I don't really care what you believe. Thought you realized that. Oh well.

Again- link.

Because none of this came up when the hospital was being sued for negligence for her condition.

Research Dr. William Hammesfahr, neurologist paid for by the parents and you will find out why BlueGin has been reluctant to provide proof of her claims. B.G. has claimed that he was her (Terri's neurologist, implying a prior relationship), when in actuality he was the parents neurologist.


>>>>

So every time somebody gets a second opinion and pays for it, the doctor providing the service is lying?

Any other brilliant insights you want to add?

They had 5 expert witnesses. Two of which sided with Terri's family . Plus testimony from the care givers at the nursing home stating that Michael held information from the family and was abusive to staff and would leave Terri in distress during his visits.

And from the Guardian Ad Litem's (an individual appointed by the court to look out for Terri's interests and advise the court) report:

The scientific quality, value and relevance of the testimony varied. The two neurologists testifying for Michael Schiavo provided strong, academically based, and scientifically supported evidence that was reasonably deemed clear and convincing by the court. Of the two physicians testifying for the Schindlers, only one was a neurologist, the other was a radiologist/hyperbaric physician. The testimony of the Schindler’s physicians was substantially anecdotal, and was reasonably deemed to be not clear and convincing. The fifth physician, chosen by the court because the two parties could not agree, presented scientifically grounded, academically based evidence that was reasonably deemed to be clear and convincing by the court.​

GuardianAdLitemReportSchiavo.pdf


Five doctors - two neurologists appointed by M.S., one neurologist appointed by the court, one neurologist appointed by the parents, and the fifth a radiologist/hyperbaric (oxygen therapy) doctor appointed by the parents.


>>>>

 

[WorldWatcher]

I believe the neurologist that testified that Terri came to the hospital with a neck injury caused by strangulation when she was originally treated. Plus testimony by friends and family of verbal and mental abuse.

I don't really care what you believe. Thought you realized that. Oh well.

Again- link.

Because none of this came up when the hospital was being sued for negligence for her condition.

Research Dr. William Hammesfahr, neurologist paid for by the parents and you will find out why BlueGin has been reluctant to provide proof of her claims. B.G. has claimed that he was her (Terri's neurologist, implying a prior relationship), when in actuality he was the parents neurologist.


>>>>

So every time somebody gets a second opinion and pays for it, the doctor providing the service is lying?

Any other brilliant insights you want to add?

Ya, how about this one.

The doctors and neurologist that examined Terri that night, in the days that followed and in the months that followed are more likely to correct about an attack/strangulation neck injury then someone that does an examination 12-years after the fact and ignores all the tests and patient descriptions from that night.

The reason for BlueGin not being willing to post a link to "Terri's neurologist" (her term not mine) that examined 12-years later is not understood.

>>>>

Wrong. I wasn't reading a link. I was referring to the trial transcripts. All of which until recently were not available online ( wonder why) . But reguardless...pardon me for calling one of the dr's " her neurologist" . I still directed you to read the testimony.

Testimony based from a man billed as having been nominated for a "Nobel Prize in Medicine" (one doesn't exist) claiming a neck injury in an examination 12-years after the incident when multiple doctors and radiographs from the time said/showed none exist.

You might want to step back and think about the evidence instead of deciding on the outcome you wanted then automatically agreeing with anyone that agreed with you. That is something liberals are vary wont to do.


>>>>

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The money was in a trust and he couldn't spend a dime without court approval. Which he had, by the way, to pay for legal expenses incurred during his efforts to have Terri's feeding tube removed.

He spent the money to whack her. That's perverse.

No matter what way you shake it out using your estranged wife's winnings from a malpractice suit to "kill her for own good" is as warped as can be.

"Fund for Schiavo's medical care dwindles
By ANITA KUMAR and J. NEALY-BROWN

© St. Petersburg Times,
published June 3, 2001

Throughout the long, messy battle over whether Terri Schiavo should be kept alive, her husband and parents have accused each other of wanting to control her fate to get their hands on her hundreds of thousands of dollars.

But by the time the bitter feud finally ends, there might not be any left.

The $700,000 or so earmarked for Mrs. Schiavo's medical care for the rest of her life has dwindled to about $350,000, court records show. Most was spent in the past two years on the intense legal fight that made its way to the U.S. Supreme Court and is still not over.

The money, which came from a 1992 medical malpractice case, has been used for Mrs. Schiavo's medical bills; her husband's attorney, who is fighting to remove her feeding tube; and a bank that manages the money.

Records show that George Felos, Michael Schiavo's litigation attorney, has been paid more than $200,000 since 1997. Another Schiavo attorney, Deborah Bushnell, got $27,000. Schiavo himself was reimbursed almost $6,000 for legal costs.

Other expenses include private aides, security guards hired after the publicity led to a ruckus outside Mrs. Schiavo's nursing home and a lawyer appointed by a judge to represent Mrs. Schiavo in court.

"One of the problems when people fight is that the people who make out the best are the lawyers," Sarasota financial planner Margery Schiller said.

As his wife's legal guardian, Schiavo is entitled to use the money, but only if it is in her best interests. Schiavo says he is trying to do that by following her wishes not to be kept alive after lapsing into a persistent vegetative state 11 years ago."

More at link:

Tampabay Fund for Schiavo s medical care dwindles

He didn't "whack" her, you rightwing psychopath. He followed the most humane path possible.

Michael preferred killing Terri rather than allowing her family to take care of her and you have the balls to call me a psychopath?

Now that's funny.

Yes, you're the psychopath. Michael humanely ended the horrible predicament Terri was in and you pathologically call that "whacking" her. Her parents wanted to extend that. Michael did what was right for Terri.

Why did she have to be put down?
What predicament was she in? She wasn't terminal. Her family was willing to take care of her.

Why did Michael have to put her down?

Legally whacked for all the world to witness one of the most barbaric acts evah! Starving and dehydrating a woman to death.

Interesting the propensity of most conservatives to again propagate the ancient lie that Terri was some sort of 'victim' of 'wrongdoing' in their effort to realize a perceived partisan advantage, just as was the case those years ago in West Central Florida.

Most on the right willingly ignore the fact that Terri was already dead long before Bush, Florida republicans, and others on the social right got involved and attempted to exploit the family's tragedy.

A dead person can be neither 'put down' nor 'murdered.'

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I believe the neurologist that testified that Terri came to the hospital with a neck injury caused by strangulation when she was originally treated. Plus testimony by friends and family of verbal and mental abuse.

I don't really care what you believe. Thought you realized that. Oh well.

Again- link.

Because none of this came up when the hospital was being sued for negligence for her condition.

Research Dr. William Hammesfahr, neurologist paid for by the parents and you will find out why BlueGin has been reluctant to provide proof of her claims. B.G. has claimed that he was her (Terri's neurologist, implying a prior relationship), when in actuality he was the parents neurologist.


>>>>

So every time somebody gets a second opinion and pays for it, the doctor providing the service is lying?

Any other brilliant insights you want to add?

Ya, how about this one.

The doctors and neurologist that examined Terri that night, in the days that followed and in the months that followed are more likely to correct about an attack/strangulation neck injury then someone that does an examination 12-years after the fact and ignores all the tests and patient descriptions from that night.

The reason for BlueGin not being willing to post a link to "Terri's neurologist" (her term not mine) that examined 12-years later is not understood.

>>>>

I think you're presuming something you have no right to. There isn't years of examinations, there's only the initial examination which showed no immediate visible signs of trama, but that's not conclusive because some injuries are more difficult to detect.

The problem with your ASSumption is that Michael limited access to his victim as soon as he found out the family was trying to find the truth of what happened to her. They encountered legal walls at every attempt, paid for with the money vouchsafed for her care. That's the evil asshole you are defending and it makes you just as evil.

 

[Lakhota]

Why did Jeb Bush place government between a husband and wife?

I think you're terrified that Jeb is going to beat the snot out of the White Bitch of Gnarnia.

No, I'm not terrified. In fact, I'm deliriously happy that you retarded NaziCons are going to be stuck with Jeb the RINO.

 

[WorldWatcher]

I think you're presuming something you have no right to. There isn't years of examinations, there's only the initial examination which showed no immediate visible signs of trama, but that's not conclusive because some injuries are more difficult to detect.

I'm not presuming anything, I'm the one quoting the official records. The below quote is from the autopsy which reviewed the medical records back to the night of the incident. BlueGin's neurologist who claims a neck injury did an examination (along with other doctors) in 2002, 12-years after the night Terri heart stopped and she was rushed to the hospital.

Was she strangled?

No trauma was noted on any of the numerous physical exams or radiographs performed on Mrs. Schiavo on the day of, in the days after, or in the months after her initial collapse. Indeed, within an hour of her initial hospital admission, radiographic examination of her cervical spine was negative. Specifically, external signs of strangulation including cutaneous or deep neck injury, facial/conjunctival petechiae, and other blunt trauma were not observed or recorded during her initial hospital admission.​

autopsyreport.pdf

but that's not conclusive because some injuries are more difficult to detect.

Then you should be having a discussion with those that say that conclusively say M.S. caused her injurty and that she had a neck injury that night. Or doesn't that standard apply to BlueGin?

The problem with your ASSumption is that Michael limited access to his victim as soon as he found out the family was trying to find the truth of what happened to her. They encountered legal walls at every attempt, paid for with the money vouchsafed for her care. That's the evil asshole you are defending and it makes you just as evil.

What the hell are you babbling about?

The discussion between BlueGin and I has been about her claim of a neck injury that was testified to by a neurologist and it was in the transcripts. After repeated attempts to get her to link to the information, which she repeatedly deflected away and said she wouldn't, I actually went and researched and found what she was talking about.

Her ONE neurologist was part of a team of five doctors that reviewed the case in 2002, 12 years after the incident. Three neurologists supported the original finding. The 4th claimed a neck injurty but supplied no credible scientific support for it. The 5th Doctor was an oxygen thereapy specialist(???).

From the Guardian Ad Litem's (an individual appointed by the court to look out for Terri's interests and advise the court) report:

The scientific quality, value and relevance of the testimony varied. The two neurologists testifying for Michael Schiavo provided strong, academically based, and scientifically supported evidence that was reasonably deemed clear and convincing by the court. Of the two physicians testifying for the Schindlers, only one was a neurologist, the other was a radiologist/hyperbaric physician. The testimony of the Schindler’s physicians was substantially anecdotal, and was reasonably deemed to be not clear and convincing. The fifth physician, chosen by the court because the two parties could not agree, presented scientifically grounded, academically based evidence that was reasonably deemed to be clear and convincing by the court.​

GuardianAdLitemReportSchiavo.pdf

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[BlueGin]

Why did Jeb Bush place government between a husband and wife?

I think you're terrified that Jeb is going to beat the snot out of the White Bitch of Gnarnia.

No, I'm not terrified. In fact, I'm deliriously happy that you retarded NaziCons are going to be stuck with Jeb the RINO.

Got a crystal ball in your pocket?

And by the way I think you have this backwards. The Nazi's championed killing the weak. Guess what that makes you closely resemble?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Why did Jeb Bush place government between a husband and wife?

I think you're terrified that Jeb is going to beat the snot out of the White Bitch of Gnarnia.

No, I'm not terrified. In fact, I'm deliriously happy that you retarded NaziCons are going to be stuck with Jeb the RINO.

Got a crystal ball in your pocket?

And by the way I think you have this backwards. The Nazi's championed killing the weak. Guess what that makes you closely resemble?

Exactly. The Left is just as much into eugenics as the Nazis were. Their heroine and patron saint is Margaret Sanger.

 

[Lakhota]

Why did Jeb Bush place government between a husband and wife?

I think you're terrified that Jeb is going to beat the snot out of the White Bitch of Gnarnia.

No, I'm not terrified. In fact, I'm deliriously happy that you retarded NaziCons are going to be stuck with Jeb the RINO.

Got a crystal ball in your pocket?

And by the way I think you have this backwards. The Nazi's championed killing the weak. Guess what that makes you closely resemble?

Are you really that stupid...or is it just an act?

If Republicans Don't Want to be Compared to Nazis, They Should Stop Acting Like Nazis

 

[tinydancer]

He spent the money to whack her. That's perverse.

No matter what way you shake it out using your estranged wife's winnings from a malpractice suit to "kill her for own good" is as warped as can be.

"Fund for Schiavo's medical care dwindles
By ANITA KUMAR and J. NEALY-BROWN

© St. Petersburg Times,
published June 3, 2001

Throughout the long, messy battle over whether Terri Schiavo should be kept alive, her husband and parents have accused each other of wanting to control her fate to get their hands on her hundreds of thousands of dollars.

But by the time the bitter feud finally ends, there might not be any left.

The $700,000 or so earmarked for Mrs. Schiavo's medical care for the rest of her life has dwindled to about $350,000, court records show. Most was spent in the past two years on the intense legal fight that made its way to the U.S. Supreme Court and is still not over.

The money, which came from a 1992 medical malpractice case, has been used for Mrs. Schiavo's medical bills; her husband's attorney, who is fighting to remove her feeding tube; and a bank that manages the money.

Records show that George Felos, Michael Schiavo's litigation attorney, has been paid more than $200,000 since 1997. Another Schiavo attorney, Deborah Bushnell, got $27,000. Schiavo himself was reimbursed almost $6,000 for legal costs.

Other expenses include private aides, security guards hired after the publicity led to a ruckus outside Mrs. Schiavo's nursing home and a lawyer appointed by a judge to represent Mrs. Schiavo in court.

"One of the problems when people fight is that the people who make out the best are the lawyers," Sarasota financial planner Margery Schiller said.

As his wife's legal guardian, Schiavo is entitled to use the money, but only if it is in her best interests. Schiavo says he is trying to do that by following her wishes not to be kept alive after lapsing into a persistent vegetative state 11 years ago."

More at link:

Tampabay Fund for Schiavo s medical care dwindles

He didn't "whack" her, you rightwing psychopath. He followed the most humane path possible.

Michael preferred killing Terri rather than allowing her family to take care of her and you have the balls to call me a psychopath?

Now that's funny.

Yes, you're the psychopath. Michael humanely ended the horrible predicament Terri was in and you pathologically call that "whacking" her. Her parents wanted to extend that. Michael did what was right for Terri.

Why did she have to be put down?
What predicament was she in? She wasn't terminal. Her family was willing to take care of her.

Why did Michael have to put her down?

Legally whacked for all the world to witness one of the most barbaric acts evah! Starving and dehydrating a woman to death.

Interesting the propensity of most conservatives to again propagate the ancient lie that Terri was some sort of 'victim' of 'wrongdoing' in their effort to realize a perceived partisan advantage, just as was the case those years ago in West Central Florida.

Most on the right willingly ignore the fact that Terri was already dead long before Bush, Florida republicans, and others on the social right got involved and attempted to exploit the family's tragedy.

A dead person can be neither 'put down' nor 'murdered.'

What a grand piece of caca!

If she were dead one wouldn't need to spend almost $400,000 dollars getting legal permission to whack her.

 

[BlueGin]

Why did Jeb Bush place government between a husband and wife?

I think you're terrified that Jeb is going to beat the snot out of the White Bitch of Gnarnia.

No, I'm not terrified. In fact, I'm deliriously happy that you retarded NaziCons are going to be stuck with Jeb the RINO.

Got a crystal ball in your pocket?

And by the way I think you have this backwards. The Nazi's championed killing the weak. Guess what that makes you closely resemble?

Are you really that stupid...or is it just an act?

If Republicans Don't Want to be Compared to Nazis, They Should Stop Acting Like Nazis

looks t me like you are acting like a Nazi. Advocating killing the weak. You don't like it... Don't do it.​

 

[Lakhota]

He didn't "whack" her, you rightwing psychopath. He followed the most humane path possible.

Michael preferred killing Terri rather than allowing her family to take care of her and you have the balls to call me a psychopath?

Now that's funny.

Yes, you're the psychopath. Michael humanely ended the horrible predicament Terri was in and you pathologically call that "whacking" her. Her parents wanted to extend that. Michael did what was right for Terri.

Why did she have to be put down?
What predicament was she in? She wasn't terminal. Her family was willing to take care of her.

Why did Michael have to put her down?

Legally whacked for all the world to witness one of the most barbaric acts evah! Starving and dehydrating a woman to death.

Interesting the propensity of most conservatives to again propagate the ancient lie that Terri was some sort of 'victim' of 'wrongdoing' in their effort to realize a perceived partisan advantage, just as was the case those years ago in West Central Florida.

Most on the right willingly ignore the fact that Terri was already dead long before Bush, Florida republicans, and others on the social right got involved and attempted to exploit the family's tragedy.

A dead person can be neither 'put down' nor 'murdered.'

What a grand piece of caca!

If she were dead one wouldn't need to spend almost $400,000 dollars getting legal permission to whack her.

Jeb Bush should have paid those legal fees after sticking the government between a husband and wife.

 

[Lakhota]

Was she strangled?

No trauma was noted on any of the numerous physical exams or radiographs performed on Mrs. Schiavo on the day of, in the days after, or in the months after her initial collapse. Indeed, within an hour of her initial hospital admission, radiographic examination of he

Why did Jeb Bush place government between a husband and wife?

I think you're terrified that Jeb is going to beat the snot out of the White Bitch of Gnarnia.

No, I'm not terrified. In fact, I'm deliriously happy that you retarded NaziCons are going to be stuck with Jeb the RINO.

Got a crystal ball in your pocket?

And by the way I think you have this backwards. The Nazi's championed killing the weak. Guess what that makes you closely resemble?

Are you really that stupid...or is it just an act?

If Republicans Don't Want to be Compared to Nazis, They Should Stop Acting Like Nazis

looks t me like you are acting like a Nazi. Advocating killing the weak. You don't like it... Don't do it.​

Tell it to the judge.

 

[BlueGin]

Again- link.

Because none of this came up when the hospital was being sued for negligence for her condition.

Research Dr. William Hammesfahr, neurologist paid for by the parents and you will find out why BlueGin has been reluctant to provide proof of her claims. B.G. has claimed that he was her (Terri's neurologist, implying a prior relationship), when in actuality he was the parents neurologist.


>>>>

So every time somebody gets a second opinion and pays for it, the doctor providing the service is lying?

Any other brilliant insights you want to add?

Ya, how about this one.

The doctors and neurologist that examined Terri that night, in the days that followed and in the months that followed are more likely to correct about an attack/strangulation neck injury then someone that does an examination 12-years after the fact and ignores all the tests and patient descriptions from that night.

The reason for BlueGin not being willing to post a link to "Terri's neurologist" (her term not mine) that examined 12-years later is not understood.

>>>>

Wrong. I wasn't reading a link. I was referring to the trial transcripts. All of which until recently were not available online ( wonder why) . But reguardless...pardon me for calling one of the dr's " her neurologist" . I still directed you to read the testimony.

Testimony based from a man billed as having been nominated for a "Nobel Prize in Medicine" (one doesn't exist) claiming a neck injury in an examination 12-years after the incident when multiple doctors and radiographs from the time said/showed none exist.

You might want to step back and think about the evidence instead of deciding on the outcome you wanted then automatically agreeing with anyone that agreed with you. That is something liberals are vary wont to do.


>>>>

I don't need to "step back" my opinion is based on all the testimony. Not just what you think you are going to assign to me.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Research Dr. William Hammesfahr, neurologist paid for by the parents and you will find out why BlueGin has been reluctant to provide proof of her claims. B.G. has claimed that he was her (Terri's neurologist, implying a prior relationship), when in actuality he was the parents neurologist.


>>>>

So every time somebody gets a second opinion and pays for it, the doctor providing the service is lying?

Any other brilliant insights you want to add?

Ya, how about this one.

The doctors and neurologist that examined Terri that night, in the days that followed and in the months that followed are more likely to correct about an attack/strangulation neck injury then someone that does an examination 12-years after the fact and ignores all the tests and patient descriptions from that night.

The reason for BlueGin not being willing to post a link to "Terri's neurologist" (her term not mine) that examined 12-years later is not understood.

>>>>

Wrong. I wasn't reading a link. I was referring to the trial transcripts. All of which until recently were not available online ( wonder why) . But reguardless...pardon me for calling one of the dr's " her neurologist" . I still directed you to read the testimony.

Testimony based from a man billed as having been nominated for a "Nobel Prize in Medicine" (one doesn't exist) claiming a neck injury in an examination 12-years after the incident when multiple doctors and radiographs from the time said/showed none exist.

You might want to step back and think about the evidence instead of deciding on the outcome you wanted then automatically agreeing with anyone that agreed with you. That is something liberals are vary wont to do.


>>>>

I don't need to "step back" my opinion is based on all the testimony. Not just what you think you are going to assign to me.

You hang your beliefs on ONE neurologist (the other was into oxygen therapy) whose claim of a neck injury is not supported by either doctors on the scene during the hours, days, and months following the incident and makes a claim on an examination 12-years after the fact which conflicts with 3 other neurologists who do present and support their diagnosis with scientific evidence.

Ever hear of the term Conformation Bias? You made up your mind and ignore anything that conflicts with it.


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The money was in a trust and he couldn't spend a dime without court approval. Which he had, by the way, to pay for legal expenses incurred during his efforts to have Terri's feeding tube removed.

He spent the money to whack her. That's perverse.

No matter what way you shake it out using your estranged wife's winnings from a malpractice suit to "kill her for own good" is as warped as can be.

"Fund for Schiavo's medical care dwindles
By ANITA KUMAR and J. NEALY-BROWN

© St. Petersburg Times,
published June 3, 2001

Throughout the long, messy battle over whether Terri Schiavo should be kept alive, her husband and parents have accused each other of wanting to control her fate to get their hands on her hundreds of thousands of dollars.

But by the time the bitter feud finally ends, there might not be any left.

The $700,000 or so earmarked for Mrs. Schiavo's medical care for the rest of her life has dwindled to about $350,000, court records show. Most was spent in the past two years on the intense legal fight that made its way to the U.S. Supreme Court and is still not over.

The money, which came from a 1992 medical malpractice case, has been used for Mrs. Schiavo's medical bills; her husband's attorney, who is fighting to remove her feeding tube; and a bank that manages the money.

Records show that George Felos, Michael Schiavo's litigation attorney, has been paid more than $200,000 since 1997. Another Schiavo attorney, Deborah Bushnell, got $27,000. Schiavo himself was reimbursed almost $6,000 for legal costs.

Other expenses include private aides, security guards hired after the publicity led to a ruckus outside Mrs. Schiavo's nursing home and a lawyer appointed by a judge to represent Mrs. Schiavo in court.

"One of the problems when people fight is that the people who make out the best are the lawyers," Sarasota financial planner Margery Schiller said.

As his wife's legal guardian, Schiavo is entitled to use the money, but only if it is in her best interests. Schiavo says he is trying to do that by following her wishes not to be kept alive after lapsing into a persistent vegetative state 11 years ago."

More at link:

Tampabay Fund for Schiavo s medical care dwindles

He didn't "whack" her, you rightwing psychopath. He followed the most humane path possible.

Michael preferred killing Terri rather than allowing her family to take care of her and you have the balls to call me a psychopath?

Now that's funny.

Yes, you're the psychopath. Michael humanely ended the horrible predicament Terri was in and you pathologically call that "whacking" her. Her parents wanted to extend that. Michael did what was right for Terri.

Why did she have to be put down?
What predicament was she in? She wasn't terminal. Her family was willing to take care of her.

Why did Michael have to put her down?

Legally whacked for all the world to witness one of the most barbaric acts evah! Starving and dehydrating a woman to death.

Because it's horrific to keep someone in that condition when there's no hope of revival. Most people would not want to be stuck in a body like she was, with no cognitive brain activity and no chance of recovery, so it's not farfetched to believe that she conveyed as much to her husband prior to her unfortunate demise. Even if she didn't, as her husband, it was his call to make.

There was nothing for him to gain from her death. If he didn't do it out of love and compassion, he could have simply divorced her and let her parents drag her horrible situation out. Clearly, he did it for his wife.