Teacher Suing School District Over ‘Bibles, Prayer Circles, Ministering’ On Campus

[BlindBoo]

You obviously share the less than elementary reading comprehension skills, it seems to be a trait among moonbats.

We have a winner.

 

[bodecea]

PETE7469 SAID:

“Another intolerant libtard sues school over Jesus.”

This is a lie, which comes as no surprise given the OP is a liar.

Nowhere in the cited article is anyone identified as a 'liberal.'

but he IS identified as Jewish.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The first clearly states that the Government can NOT restrict religious freedom. That means schools can not restrict prayer or religious freedom either. If as a student someone wants to pray or quote scripture they are free to do it. But not according to you liberal dumb asses.

 

[legaleagle_45]

The phrase "separation of church and state" is found NO WHERE in the COTUS,

So what if that phase isn't in the Constitution? He said: "This country was founded on the idea of separation of church and state", and it was.

Actually it was not. The 1st amendment was (GASP!) an amendment to the Constitution, added after the Constitution was ratified. Additionally, the amendment originally only applied to the federal governement, as states were free to establish official state religions, and 1/3rd of them did have official state religions at the the time the Constitution was adopted. Massachusetts was the last state to disestablish its official state religion in 1837.

However, and with that said, if what the teacher is saying is true, it is clearly in violation of the establishment clause. It should be noted that the school vigoriously denies the factual allegations.

 

[Pete7469]

“[T]he First Amendment's language, properly interpreted,"

PROPERLY INTERPRETED?

BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's how it is with bed wetters, they get to interpret everything and when we point out how utterly convoluted it is they call us racists and run away as if they won the arguement.

Dealing with weapons grade stupidity like that can cause headaches.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

'Personalized Bibles distributed to students, morning prayer circles on campus, and a church pastor regularly on the Florence High School campus ministering with the principal nearby, are a few examples that attorney Paul Maxon says is unconstitutional.

“Government and public schools need to remain neutral on questions of religion so that you and I are not forced to (be exposed to) someone else’s personal religious beliefs,” Maxon said.”

Correct.

Having a member of the clergy on campus 'ministering' to students is a clear Establishment Clause violation. See Lee v. Weisman (1992)

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The Progressive Jihad on Religion, they won't rest until Atheism is the National Religion of the USA

Another ignorant, ridiculous lie from the right.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

FLORENCE, Colo. (CBS4) – A Colorado teacher is suing a school district, claiming a school is not keeping church and state separate.

In the lawsuit former Florence High School teacher Robert Basevitz says he experienced religious discrimination at his school. When he formally complained about it, he says he was transferred to another school in the district, and that’s when things elevated to the lawsuit.

Why is it that just one sniveling troll can upset the daily routines of an entire school just because he's buthurt about religion? Furthermore, why does no one ever sue districts for promoting the cult of male chauvinism, slavery and death?

“This country was founded on the idea of separation of church and state — that’s the very first sentence in the Bill or Rights before any other freedom is discussed,” Maxon said.

Ok... This assclown is supposed to be a lawyer? He's not even literate apparently:

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The phrase "separation of church and state" is found NO WHERE in the COTUS, and nothing in the COTUS can be taken out of context enough to imply such. The First Amendment clearly places the restrictions solely on the CONGRESS, not some school district or even a state. How these imbeciles can graduate high school with such pitiful english comprehension skills baffles me, but the fact that they passed a bar exam give me cause to think I should go after some easy money, get a law degree, and sue fascist pig liberals for offending me.

So there IS no separation of church and state?
Cool. Then the government can tell you what to do with your religion.

Nope, only mentioned in a letter to the Danbury Baptists, by a later president.

" Then the government can tell you what to do with your religion"

Sure, well, other than this SLIGHT problem,

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

Wrong.

See post #18.

 

[BlindBoo]

The first clearly states that the Government can NOT restrict religious freedom. That means schools can not restrict prayer or religious freedom either. If as a student someone wants to pray or quote scripture they are free to do it. But not according to you liberal dumb asses.

So you would be okay with Muslims being given time to pray towards Mecca during the school day, at school?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The first clearly states that the Government can NOT restrict religious freedom. That means schools can not restrict prayer or religious freedom either. If as a student someone wants to pray or quote scripture they are free to do it. But not according to you liberal dumb asses.

And yet another lie from the right.

No one is seeking to disallow students or teachers from practicing religious dogma at school, provided that religious expression is not endorsed or promoted by government (public schools), which is clearly not the case in the cited article.

 

[JFK_USA]

'Personalized Bibles distributed to students, morning prayer circles on campus, and a church pastor regularly on the Florence High School campus ministering with the principal nearby, are a few examples that attorney Paul Maxon says is unconstitutional.

“Government and public schools need to remain neutral on questions of religion so that you and I are not forced to (be exposed to) someone else’s personal religious beliefs,” Maxon said.”

Correct.

Having a member of the clergy on campus 'ministering' to students is a clear Establishment Clause violation. See Lee v. Weisman (1992)

Really? If those facts bear out, they were in clear violation of the Establishment clause.

The Progressive Jihad on Religion, they won't rest until Atheism is the National Religion of the USA

Another ignorant, ridiculous lie from the right.

Yeah, Atheism isn't a religion.

 

[Pete7469]

The first clearly states that the Government can NOT restrict religious freedom. That means schools can not restrict prayer or religious freedom either. If as a student someone wants to pray or quote scripture they are free to do it. But not according to you liberal dumb asses.

So you would be okay with Muslims being given time to pray towards Mecca during the school day, at school?

If everytime a kid said "God Bless You" after a sneeze wasn't harrassed.

 

[The Wolf]

Good. Keep your bible thumping at home and at church.

 

[legaleagle_45]

Good. Keep your bible thumping at home and at church.

They have a right to bring their religion into the public square, to the same extent as others who wish to publicize their opinions and beliefs... A street preacher has the same right to give his speil at a public park as do them Occupy protestors. The Methodists have the same right to march in Skokie as do the Nazi's

 

[NYcarbineer]

FLORENCE, Colo. (CBS4) – A Colorado teacher is suing a school district, claiming a school is not keeping church and state separate.

In the lawsuit former Florence High School teacher Robert Basevitz says he experienced religious discrimination at his school. When he formally complained about it, he says he was transferred to another school in the district, and that’s when things elevated to the lawsuit.

Why is it that just one sniveling troll can upset the daily routines of an entire school just because he's buthurt about religion? Furthermore, why does no one ever sue districts for promoting the cult of male chauvinism, slavery and death?

“This country was founded on the idea of separation of church and state — that’s the very first sentence in the Bill or Rights before any other freedom is discussed,” Maxon said.

Ok... This assclown is supposed to be a lawyer? He's not even literate apparently:

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The phrase "separation of church and state" is found NO WHERE in the COTUS, and nothing in the COTUS can be taken out of context enough to imply such. The First Amendment clearly places the restrictions solely on the CONGRESS, not some school district or even a state. How these imbeciles can graduate high school with such pitiful english comprehension skills baffles me, but the fact that they passed a bar exam give me cause to think I should go after some easy money, get a law degree, and sue fascist pig liberals for offending me.

Do you object to the right to sue, or to the right of liberals to sue?

 

[The Wolf]

Good. Keep your bible thumping at home and at church.

They have a right to bring their religion into the public square, to the same extent as others who wish to publicize their opinions and beliefs... A street preacher has the same right to give his speil at a public park as do them Occupy protestors. The Methodists have the same right to march in Skokie as do the Nazi's

Unfortunately you are correct but they do NOT have the right to bring it to school. Which is what happened.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Good. Keep your bible thumping at home and at church.

They have a right to bring their religion into the public square, to the same extent as others who wish to publicize their opinions and beliefs... A street preacher has the same right to give his speil at a public park as do them Occupy protestors. The Methodists have the same right to march in Skokie as do the Nazi's

No one's arguing otherwise.

But religion promoted or advanced by schools, or endorsed by schools, or members of the clergy proselytizing to public school students at the behest of the school is clearly un-Constitutional.

 

[FA_Q2]

The phrase "separation of church and state" is found NO WHERE in the COTUS,

So what if that phase isn't in the Constitution? He said: "This country was founded on the idea of separation of church and state", and it was.

No, it really was not.

We had a LOT of religious intolerance in this nation in the beginning. Several states had religions backed by the government.

What we have NOW is a solid separation of the government and religion.

 

[boedicca]

People PRAYING and Exercising their religions in public spaces are not the Government Establishing a religion.

And whoever said that the country was founded on the separation of church and state is wrong. One of the founding principles Freedom OF Religion, not FROM Religion. The government's role is not to keep non-believers from ever being exposed to any aspect of other people's religions. They are free to ignore others religious practices, just as the religious are free to ignore the non-believers.

 

[bodecea]

Rule of thumb: If you would have NO objections to Muslims or Satanists doing the same thing at the same time in the same place......it's ok. If you have serious issues with it, it's probably a violation of church and state.