Taxes: 101

Here are the raw numbers straight the IRS.

NOT your fiction from blog.heritage.org that does not add up & says "ESTIMATED".

Here is the real chart that squares with reality from the IRS.


te07chart2.jpg

You're wrong.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...smith-says-top-20-percent-income-earners-pay/
 
If the goal is to get everyone to pay higher taxes...which I guess is the point of the OP; we should go over the "cliff" I suppose.

Its all going to be okay. Don't worry.

Actually, that wasn't the point. The point is, the left (in their infinite stupidity) is literally crushing the successful with taxes while crying "you don't pay your fair share, we need to raise taxes".

The facts clearly prove otherwise. But then again, you guys always were adverse to the facts.

Crushing? Apple has $120B in cash in the bank. Google has billions as well. The health system I work for is opening 3 new campuses in the upcoming year. You're simply an idiot or seriously mis-informed.

As for "fair share", I think all of our taxes need to go up.

Once again we see the left citing corporate finance/taxes as their "evidence" for personal income tax on the wealthy... :lol:

Apple is publicly owned my dear. Google is also publicly owned my dear. Now, are you ready to admit you are wrong, or - at the very least - are you ready to compare "apples" to "apples"? (pun intended)
 

The fact that you can't even understand the chart you posted is hilarious! :lol:

Because if you understood it, you would see how they pulled out 400 specific households to make it appear as though the rich aren't paying as much as they are...

My friend, how are you not outraged that 400 people in this nation over over 300,000,000 are paying 16% of the entire taxes?!?!?!

For those mathmatically challenged, these people make up 0.0001% of the population, but are paying a staggering 16%.

Your own chart defeats your argument when 1/1,000th of a single percent pay 16%. You're right about one thing - they certainly are not paying their "fair share". They are paying about a billion x's too much!
 

That is what the progressive taxation is about -- the more income you earn, the larger share of it you have to pay in taxes. That how it works in every developed country.

And that is not unfair. We have to make it more progressive, not less.
 
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need............."

How progressively communist... Parasites

Stop lying. A progressive taxation does not eliminate inequality, far from it. At best, it can make the rich taking home only 10 times the average salary instead of 100s -- and the rich do not work 400 hours working week either.
 
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need............."

How progressively communist... Parasites

Stop lying. A progressive taxation does not eliminate inequality, far from it. At best, it can make the rich taking home only 10 times the average salary instead of 100s -- and the rich do not work 400 hours working week either.

Indeed, no tax scheme will eliminate "inequality"...............

Every man was created UNEQUAL, and there is nothing some mindless bureaucrats can do do change that.................
 
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need............."

How progressively communist... Parasites

Stop lying. A progressive taxation does not eliminate inequality, far from it. At best, it can make the rich taking home only 10 times the average salary instead of 100s -- and the rich do not work 400 hours working week either.

That's the flaw with socialist thinking.

You guys think earnings should be directly decided by hours worked.
 
Actually, that wasn't the point. The point is, the left (in their infinite stupidity) is literally crushing the successful with taxes while crying "you don't pay your fair share, we need to raise taxes".

The facts clearly prove otherwise. But then again, you guys always were adverse to the facts.

Crushing? Apple has $120B in cash in the bank. Google has billions as well. The health system I work for is opening 3 new campuses in the upcoming year. You're simply an idiot or seriously mis-informed.

As for "fair share", I think all of our taxes need to go up.

Once again we see the left citing corporate finance/taxes as their "evidence" for personal income tax on the wealthy... :lol:

Apple is publicly owned my dear. Google is also publicly owned my dear. Now, are you ready to admit you are wrong, or - at the very least - are you ready to compare "apples" to "apples"? (pun intended)

Facebook, this time last year, was not publicly traded yet there were several millionaires on their roster.
As is with:
Apple
Google
Intel
Sysco
Microsoft
etc...

Nobody is being "literally crushed" simpleton. Are you ready to apologize for wasting our time?
 
Here are the raw numbers straight the IRS.

NOT your fiction from blog.heritage.org that does not add up & says "ESTIMATED".

Here is the real chart that squares with reality from the IRS.


te07chart2.jpg

You're wrong.

PolitiFact Texas | Lamar Smith says top 20 percent of income earners pay nearly 70 percent of federal taxes

It seems some twits have a hard time distinguishing between effective tax rates, and the percentage of overall taxes paid by income groups..........
 
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need............."

How progressively communist... Parasites

Stop lying. A progressive taxation does not eliminate inequality, far from it. At best, it can make the rich taking home only 10 times the average salary instead of 100s -- and the rich do not work 400 hours working week either.

That's the flaw with socialist thinking.

You guys think earnings should be directly decided by hours worked.

And why that is not fair? You were talking horror stories about business owners burning midnight oil and seeing their kids once a year!
 
Stop lying. A progressive taxation does not eliminate inequality, far from it. At best, it can make the rich taking home only 10 times the average salary instead of 100s -- and the rich do not work 400 hours working week either.

That's the flaw with socialist thinking.

You guys think earnings should be directly decided by hours worked.

And why that is not fair? You were talking horror stories about business owners burning midnight oil and seeing their kids once a year!

Because once a business man stops working and continues to profit from his previous work, socialists deem it "unfair."
 
America has.

You're just babbling now.

If as you just claimed, the US solved its poverty problems by ending all benefits, why are you complaining about benefits?

Chris Gardner. Game over.

Don't try to avoid the facts. It's a true story. It happened. Homeless poverty to millionaire, all without the help of government. And all because he finally became uncomfortable in his poverty.

So you found 1 guy and I can find you a million people in Africa who died because they were extremely poor, and got no help from the government.

So, I'll wait for your 999,999 rebuttals.
 
That's the flaw with socialist thinking.

You guys think earnings should be directly decided by hours worked.

And why that is not fair? You were talking horror stories about business owners burning midnight oil and seeing their kids once a year!

Because once a business man stops working and continues to profit from his previous work, socialists deem it "unfair."

No previous work can justify taking home 100s the average person income. Nobody works that much in their lifetime, that is why it is not fair.
 
And why that is not fair? You were talking horror stories about business owners burning midnight oil and seeing their kids once a year!

Because once a business man stops working and continues to profit from his previous work, socialists deem it "unfair."

No previous work can justify taking home 100s the average person income. Nobody works that much in their lifetime, that is why it is not fair.

Do you think a man should be compensated based on the amount of work he produces?
 
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Because once a business man stops working and continues to profit from his previous work, socialists deem it "unfair."

No previous work can justify taking home 100s the average person income. Nobody works that much in their lifetime, that is why it is not fair.

Do you think a man should be compensated based on the amount of work he produces?

Define "amount of work".

I think a man should be compensated for his efforts. The problem is that the same efforts could lead to vastly different productivity.

A society should encourage higher productivity -- that is why we need a market based economy. But compensating people based solely on their productivity goes well beyond simply encouraging people to be as productive as they can, and, thus, leads to unnecessarily unfair compensation.

That is why we need progressive taxation -- so the resulting compensation is unfair just enough to encourage people to become more productive.
 

That is what the progressive taxation is about -- the more income you earn, the larger share of it you have to pay in taxes. That how it works in every developed country.

And that is not unfair. We have to make it more progressive, not less.

First of all, progressive anything is an epic failure. It's just another bullshit way of saying Socialism/Marxism/Communism.

Second, a flat tax (say 10%) ensures that the wealthy do pay more (10% of a billion is a fuck load more than 10% of $30,000).

The fact that you want the wealthy, who already pay more on a percentage (that's why we use percentage) to also pay a higher percentage is sheer ugly, nasty, greed on your part.
 
No previous work can justify taking home 100s the average person income. Nobody works that much in their lifetime, that is why it is not fair.

Do you think a man should be compensated based on the amount of work he produces?

Define "amount of work".

I think a man should be compensated for his efforts. The problem is that the same efforts could lead to vastly different productivity.

A society should encourage higher productivity -- that is why we need a market based economy. But compensating people based solely on their productivity goes well beyond simply encouraging people to be as productive as they can, and, thus, leads to unnecessarily unfair compensation.

That is why we need progressive taxation -- so the resulting compensation is unfair just enough to encourage people to become more productive.

Wow, you really are an ugly, arrogant little man.

Who the fuck are you to decide what is "unnecessarily unfair compensation"?

There is no such thing as "unfair compensation" in the private market. If someone is willing to pay you that much, then it is completely fair.

God almighty are you one confused, sad, little communist.
 
Hands down the most INSANE comment ever made... Somehow, making compensation unfair will "encourage people to become more productive" in this goofballs mind......

:cuckoo:That is why we need progressive taxation -- so the resulting compensation is unfair just enough to encourage people to become more productive.:cuckoo:
 
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need............."

How progressively communist... Parasites

Stop lying. A progressive taxation does not eliminate inequality, far from it. At best, it can make the rich taking home only 10 times the average salary instead of 100s -- and the rich do not work 400 hours working week either.

Or how about this, you Marxist moron... how about everyone be left the fuck alone in FREEDOM to earn what ever they can? God forbid, right?

Marxists hate freedom. They hate that they can't control society to neatly align with their view of how the world should operate...
 

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