Taxes: 101

[P@triot]

Crushing? Apple has $120B in cash in the bank. Google has billions as well. The health system I work for is opening 3 new campuses in the upcoming year. You're simply an idiot or seriously mis-informed.

As for "fair share", I think all of our taxes need to go up.

Once again we see the left citing corporate finance/taxes as their "evidence" for personal income tax on the wealthy...

Apple is publicly owned my dear. Google is also publicly owned my dear. Now, are you ready to admit you are wrong, or - at the very least - are you ready to compare "apples" to "apples"? (pun intended)

Facebook, this time last year, was not publicly traded yet there were several millionaires on their roster.
As is with:
Apple
Google
Intel
Sysco
Microsoft
etc...

Nobody is being "literally crushed" simpleton. Are you ready to apologize for wasting our time?

And you were/are crushing each and everyone one of them. They've been able to accumulate wealth in spite of idiots like you, not because of idiots like you.

It's comical watching you chase your tail in confusion. First you cite corporations when talking about personal income tax lol and then you double-down on the stupidity citing Facebook, but just adding "last year before they went public".

By the way, rather than making stuff up as you go, why don't you cite the names of specific employees of Facebook who were millionaires before they went public (and please spare us "Mark Zuckerberg" or it will be evident you have no idea what you're talking about).

 

[P@triot]

You're just babbling now.

If as you just claimed, the US solved its poverty problems by ending all benefits, why are you complaining about benefits?

Chris Gardner. Game over.

Don't try to avoid the facts. It's a true story. It happened. Homeless poverty to millionaire, all without the help of government. And all because he finally became uncomfortable in his poverty.

So you found 1 guy and I can find you a million people in Africa who died because they were extremely poor, and got no help from the government.

So, I'll wait for your 999,999 rebuttals.

And Africa applies to our conversation about the United States, how?!?!

You guys are so desperate to make a point while getting your asses kicked in a discussion, that you throw out stuff that has nothing to do with the subject. Let me break this down for you (you seem a bit.....well, simple minded).

Africa is a continent. It is not a country lol. Therefore, it has no laws, no economy, no currency, etc. It is just a massive body of land. Just like North America (which is made up of Canada, the United States, Mexico, and more).

Now, the individual countries contained with in that continent (still can't stop laughing that you cite a continent in a discussion about economics ) have the exact kind of oppressive regimes that you are calling for her in America. And then you have the nerve to cite them as proof of poverty cuckoo.

Now, the oppressive nations that created poverty with the same policies you advocate are places like Libya, Rwanda, Somalia, and more.

What do you say we keep the conversation on America? You struggle enough discussing this country, we don't need to confuse you further with world politics.

 

[P@triot]

And why that is not fair? You were talking horror stories about business owners burning midnight oil and seeing their kids once a year!

Because once a business man stops working and continues to profit from his previous work, socialists deem it "unfair."

No previous work can justify taking home 100s the average person income. Nobody works that much in their lifetime, that is why it is not fair.

Because they are smarter than you and created products or services that you were not bright enough to create, you think it's unfair?

Sorry dude, Bill Gates was worth every single cent of the billions he accumulated. You, however, are not worth shit. Deal with it. Get over it. Either except that God made you the failure that you, with almost zero talents, or start working harder to get where you want. Either way, stop crying like a marxist little bitch.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

You're just babbling now.

If as you just claimed, the US solved its poverty problems by ending all benefits, why are you complaining about benefits?

Chris Gardner. Game over.

Don't try to avoid the facts. It's a true story. It happened. Homeless poverty to millionaire, all without the help of government. And all because he finally became uncomfortable in his poverty.

So you found 1 guy and I can find you a million people in Africa who died because they were extremely poor, and got no help from the government.

So, I'll wait for your 999,999 rebuttals.

Its the american taxpayers fault those africans died.............we owed them too

 

[P@triot]

No previous work can justify taking home 100s the average person income. Nobody works that much in their lifetime, that is why it is not fair.

"Of all human powers operating on the affairs of mankind, none is greater than that of competition." -Henry Clay

Why do you marxists fear competition? Why can't you accept the results of those competition? If a man makes "100's more" than another man, so be it...

 

[ilia25]

No previous work can justify taking home 100s the average person income. Nobody works that much in their lifetime, that is why it is not fair.

"Of all human powers operating on the affairs of mankind, none is greater than that of competition." -Henry Clay

Why do you marxists fear competition? Why can't you accept the results of those competition? If a man makes "100's more" than another man, so be it...

Because a lot of this is just a dumb luck -- being born with the right set of talents into the right environment. Also it depends on technological advances -- post-industrial economy creates more inequality, giving to the rich even bigger share of the income, at the expense of the rest.

 

[P@triot]

No previous work can justify taking home 100s the average person income. Nobody works that much in their lifetime, that is why it is not fair.

"Of all human powers operating on the affairs of mankind, none is greater than that of competition." -Henry Clay

Why do you marxists fear competition? Why can't you accept the results of those competition? If a man makes "100's more" than another man, so be it...

Because a lot of this is just a dumb luck -- being born with the right set of talents into the right environment. Also it depends on technological advances -- post-industrial economy creates more inequality, giving to the rich even bigger share of the income, at the expense of the rest.

"Dumb luck"? Yeah... people have made millions through "dumb luck".

Spoken like the loser of the competition who can't accept the results.

 

[ilia25]

"Of all human powers operating on the affairs of mankind, none is greater than that of competition." -Henry Clay

Why do you marxists fear competition? Why can't you accept the results of those competition? If a man makes "100's more" than another man, so be it...

Because a lot of this is just a dumb luck -- being born with the right set of talents into the right environment. Also it depends on technological advances -- post-industrial economy creates more inequality, giving to the rich even bigger share of the income, at the expense of the rest.

"Dumb luck"? Yeah... people have made millions through "dumb luck".

Spoken like the loser of the competition who can't accept the results.

You are just too stupid to achieve a bare minimum of reading comprehension.

Read again: "this is just a dumb luck -- being born with the right set of talents into the right environment."

 

[P@triot]

Chris Gardner. Game over.

Don't try to avoid the facts. It's a true story. It happened. Homeless poverty to millionaire, all without the help of government. And all because he finally became uncomfortable in his poverty.

So you found 1 guy and I can find you a million people in Africa who died because they were extremely poor, and got no help from the government.

So, I'll wait for your 999,999 rebuttals.

Its the american taxpayers fault those africans died.............we owed them too

LMAO!

 

[P@triot]

Because a lot of this is just a dumb luck -- being born with the right set of talents into the right environment. Also it depends on technological advances -- post-industrial economy creates more inequality, giving to the rich even bigger share of the income, at the expense of the rest.

"Dumb luck"? Yeah... people have made millions through "dumb luck".

Spoken like the loser of the competition who can't accept the results.

You are just too stupid to achieve a bare minimum of reading comprehension.

Read again: "this is just a dumb luck -- being born with the right set of talents into the right environment."

Read again: Spoken like the loser of the competition who can't accept the results.

 

[P@triot]

"<success> is just a dumb luck -- being born with the right set of talents into the right environment."

What a sad, sad statement on who you are. You simply can't admit your lazy and that other's have out worked you. Instead, you'd rather demonize them and then try to drag them down to your level through wealth redistribution.

 

[ilia25]

"<success> is just a dumb luck -- being born with the right set of talents into the right environment."

What a sad, sad statement on who you are. You simply can't admit your lazy and that other's have out worked you.

You are pathetic asshole. Why haven't you invented iPhone, why haven't you founded Google or SpaceX -- simply because you were lazy? Fuck no! Being such an idiot you might have been sitting on that ugly butt of yours for your whole life, or you could have been busting it 24/7 -- it would not make any difference! You would never achieve that kind of a success no matter how hard you work because, again, you were born a dumb, talentless asshole!

Not that you will ever understand what I am talking about...

 

[ilia25]

Bump!

 

[P@triot]

"<success> is just a dumb luck -- being born with the right set of talents into the right environment."

What a sad, sad statement on who you are. You simply can't admit your lazy and that other's have out worked you.

You are pathetic asshole. Why haven't you invented iPhone, why haven't you founded Google or SpaceX -- simply because you were lazy? Fuck no! Being such an idiot you might have been sitting on that ugly butt of yours for your whole life, or you could have been busting it 24/7 -- it would not make any difference! You would never achieve that kind of a success no matter how hard you work because, again, you were born a dumb, talentless asshole!

Not that you will ever understand what I am talking about...

Awwww.... is the little marxist sad that we're not willing to follow his lead into the new Nazi party??? A shed a tear for you.....

 

[P@triot]

Not that you will ever understand what I am talking about...

If it's any consolation, nobody else does either. It's very difficult to understand incoherent babbling about how evil capitalism is and how wonderful marxism is...

 

[P@triot]

You are pathetic asshole. Why haven't you invented iPhone, why haven't you founded Google or SpaceX -- simply because you were lazy? Fuck no! Being such an idiot you might have been sitting on that ugly butt of yours for your whole life, or you could have been busting it 24/7 -- it would not make any difference! You would never achieve that kind of a success no matter how hard you work because, again, you were born a dumb, talentless asshole!

Because I was too busy doing what I do (which is not inventing the iPhone or founding Google). Allow me to explain something to your angry, lazy, envious little sorry ass...

First, unlike you dumbocrats, conservatives realize that money means almost nothing. That's why we don't demand that others hand it over to us. We realize that family, happiness, achievement, health, etc. are far more important than money. Now, when you can comprehend this (and, based on the type of person you are, you'll probably never be able to), move on to my next point.

Second, because of that, we do what we love for a living. We don't sit around angry about our bank account and chasing every "get rich quick idea", only to have our anger grow as it fails (like you do).

Third, because we love what we do and find it intrinsically rewarding, it's very easy to be successful at it. The more successful you are at something, the more someone is willing to pay you to do it and thus it becomes financially rewarding as well.

In short, I never set out to invent the iPhone or I would have. I never set out to create a better search engine, or I would have founded Google. I set out to do exactly what I do, and I've been very successful at (very).

As I said before, it's such a sad statement of who you are that you believe people are born into a situation and that's the end of the story. People born into extraordinarily privilege have died broke, died young, killed themselves, etc. because they were lazy, stupid, etc. (kind of like you!). And people born into extraordinary poverty have lived long, happy, wealthy, successful lives. It's just a fact that you can't bring yourself to acknowledge, because - well, it would require you to take responsibility for your lot in life, and you're not willing to take personal responsibility. It's so much easier to blame others, and then demand from others, uh?

 

[P@triot]

While we're teaching the idiot liberal dumbocrat about taxes, can we also add that there is NO SUCH THING AS THE "BUSH TAX CUTS"?

Bush created a new tax RATE. Now, as typical of the idiot liberal dumbocrat, Obama and the dumbocrats want to RAISE the RATE again.

To imply "Bush tax cuts" is to imply that their are standards, and that Bill Clinton created that standard. Bill Clinton raised RATES (and, among other things he did, destroyed our economy). Bush lowered RATES. Now, Obama wants to go back to the failed Clinton policies which destroyed our economy in the first place.

 

[ilia25]

You are pathetic asshole. Why haven't you invented iPhone, why haven't you founded Google or SpaceX -- simply because you were lazy? Fuck no! Being such an idiot you might have been sitting on that ugly butt of yours for your whole life, or you could have been busting it 24/7 -- it would not make any difference! You would never achieve that kind of a success no matter how hard you work because, again, you were born a dumb, talentless asshole!

Because I was too busy doing what I do (which is not inventing the iPhone or founding Google). Allow me to explain something to your angry, lazy, envious little sorry ass...

First, unlike you dumbocrats, conservatives realize that money means almost nothing. That's why we don't demand that others hand it over to us. We realize that family, happiness, achievement, health, etc. are far more important than money. Now, when you can comprehend this (and, based on the type of person you are, you'll probably never be able to), move on to my next point.

Second, because of that, we do what we love for a living. We don't sit around angry about our bank account and chasing every "get rich quick idea", only to have our anger grow as it fails (like you do).

Third, because we love what we do and find it intrinsically rewarding, it's very easy to be successful at it. The more successful you are at something, the more someone is willing to pay you to do it and thus it becomes financially rewarding as well.

In short, I never set out to invent the iPhone or I would have. I never set out to create a better search engine, or I would have founded Google. I set out to do exactly what I do, and I've been very successful at (very).

As I said before, it's such a sad statement of who you are that you believe people are born into a situation and that's the end of the story. People born into extraordinarily privilege have died broke, died young, killed themselves, etc. because they were lazy, stupid, etc. (kind of like you!). And people born into extraordinary poverty have lived long, happy, wealthy, successful lives. It's just a fact that you can't bring yourself to acknowledge, because - well, it would require you to take responsibility for your lot in life, and you're not willing to take personal responsibility. It's so much easier to blame others, and then demand from others, uh?

Like I said -- you are a particularly dumb asshole. You can't comprehend what i'm saying, so you build a straw man. Not because you want to, but because that straw man of yours is the only model you can grasp.

But I can try again, just for the fun of it.

When I said that the rich are very fortunate, I didn't -- DID NOT -- mean they are necessarily born with their riches (although some are). Most of them are lucky because the things they like to do and are good at doing are, as chance would have it, also the things that are useful to others. That's what I meant by the luck that the rich people have (and which you are, apparently, so proud of).

Many other people have no such luck. They like to do things that others do not find all that valuable. Or they don't have talents to the useful stuff. In any case, it is not their fault.

But that is why they deserve even more reward for their efforts, than most rich people do.

Get it? Got it?


Oh, and I hope you understand that I don't believe a single word of your alleged success stories -- not with the utter lack of reading comprehension you keep on displaying.

 

[P@triot]

You are pathetic asshole. Why haven't you invented iPhone, why haven't you founded Google or SpaceX -- simply because you were lazy? Fuck no! Being such an idiot you might have been sitting on that ugly butt of yours for your whole life, or you could have been busting it 24/7 -- it would not make any difference! You would never achieve that kind of a success no matter how hard you work because, again, you were born a dumb, talentless asshole!

Because I was too busy doing what I do (which is not inventing the iPhone or founding Google). Allow me to explain something to your angry, lazy, envious little sorry ass...

First, unlike you dumbocrats, conservatives realize that money means almost nothing. That's why we don't demand that others hand it over to us. We realize that family, happiness, achievement, health, etc. are far more important than money. Now, when you can comprehend this (and, based on the type of person you are, you'll probably never be able to), move on to my next point.

Second, because of that, we do what we love for a living. We don't sit around angry about our bank account and chasing every "get rich quick idea", only to have our anger grow as it fails (like you do).

Third, because we love what we do and find it intrinsically rewarding, it's very easy to be successful at it. The more successful you are at something, the more someone is willing to pay you to do it and thus it becomes financially rewarding as well.

In short, I never set out to invent the iPhone or I would have. I never set out to create a better search engine, or I would have founded Google. I set out to do exactly what I do, and I've been very successful at (very).

As I said before, it's such a sad statement of who you are that you believe people are born into a situation and that's the end of the story. People born into extraordinarily privilege have died broke, died young, killed themselves, etc. because they were lazy, stupid, etc. (kind of like you!). And people born into extraordinary poverty have lived long, happy, wealthy, successful lives. It's just a fact that you can't bring yourself to acknowledge, because - well, it would require you to take responsibility for your lot in life, and you're not willing to take personal responsibility. It's so much easier to blame others, and then demand from others, uh?

Like I said -- you are a particularly dumb asshole. You can't comprehend what i'm saying, so you build a straw man. Not because you want to, but because that straw man of yours is the only model you can grasp.

But I can try again, just for the fun of it.

When I said that the rich are very fortunate, I didn't -- DID NOT -- mean they are necessarily born with their riches (although some are). Most of them are lucky because the things they like to do and are good at doing are, as chance would have it, also the things that are useful to others. That's what I meant by the luck that the rich people have (and which you are, apparently, so proud of).

Many other people have no such luck. They like to do things that others do not find all that valuable. Or they don't have talents to the useful stuff. In any case, it is not their fault.

But that is why they deserve even more reward for their efforts, than most rich people do.

Get it? Got it?


Oh, and I hope you understand that I don't believe a single word of your alleged success stories -- not with the utter lack of reading comprehension you keep on displaying.

Who is the one with reading comprehension issue??? Where did I say you think only that the wealthy was born with their wealth?

The reason the entire USMB board is laughing at you for the fucking asshole you are is because you think success is solely "luck" and nothing more. It's such a stupid ideology, it defies logic.

You're just a parasite who hates people who have been more successful than you.

By the way, I never gave you a success story to believe or not believe. You have no idea what I do (because I didn't tell you). You have no idea how much money I make (because I didn't tell you). Once again, this proves exactly what I said about you - which is you focus on dollars and only dollars. You're blinded by your greed and envy over those little green pieces of paper.

 

[ilia25]

Because I was too busy doing what I do (which is not inventing the iPhone or founding Google). Allow me to explain something to your angry, lazy, envious little sorry ass...

First, unlike you dumbocrats, conservatives realize that money means almost nothing. That's why we don't demand that others hand it over to us. We realize that family, happiness, achievement, health, etc. are far more important than money. Now, when you can comprehend this (and, based on the type of person you are, you'll probably never be able to), move on to my next point.

Second, because of that, we do what we love for a living. We don't sit around angry about our bank account and chasing every "get rich quick idea", only to have our anger grow as it fails (like you do).

Third, because we love what we do and find it intrinsically rewarding, it's very easy to be successful at it. The more successful you are at something, the more someone is willing to pay you to do it and thus it becomes financially rewarding as well.

In short, I never set out to invent the iPhone or I would have. I never set out to create a better search engine, or I would have founded Google. I set out to do exactly what I do, and I've been very successful at (very).

As I said before, it's such a sad statement of who you are that you believe people are born into a situation and that's the end of the story. People born into extraordinarily privilege have died broke, died young, killed themselves, etc. because they were lazy, stupid, etc. (kind of like you!). And people born into extraordinary poverty have lived long, happy, wealthy, successful lives. It's just a fact that you can't bring yourself to acknowledge, because - well, it would require you to take responsibility for your lot in life, and you're not willing to take personal responsibility. It's so much easier to blame others, and then demand from others, uh?

Like I said -- you are a particularly dumb asshole. You can't comprehend what i'm saying, so you build a straw man. Not because you want to, but because that straw man of yours is the only model you can grasp.

But I can try again, just for the fun of it.

When I said that the rich are very fortunate, I didn't -- DID NOT -- mean they are necessarily born with their riches (although some are). Most of them are lucky because the things they like to do and are good at doing are, as chance would have it, also the things that are useful to others. That's what I meant by the luck that the rich people have (and which you are, apparently, so proud of).

Many other people have no such luck. They like to do things that others do not find all that valuable. Or they don't have talents to the useful stuff. In any case, it is not their fault.

But that is why they deserve even more reward for their efforts, than most rich people do.

Get it? Got it?


Oh, and I hope you understand that I don't believe a single word of your alleged success stories -- not with the utter lack of reading comprehension you keep on displaying.

Who is the one with reading comprehension issue??? Where did I say you think only that the wealthy was born with their wealth?

Here, you idiot:
"you believe people are born into a situation and that's the end of the story. People born into extraordinarily privilege have died broke... And people born into extraordinary poverty have lived long, happy..."

You don't have the mental capacity to remember your own last comment.

you think success is solely "luck" and nothing more. It's such a stupid ideology, it defies logic.

And yet you cannot point out a flaw in my explanation -- all you can do is cursing me for exposing your stupidity.

You are pathetic.