Tax scam of $1.5 Trillion......and an increase in debt of $1.5 Trillion

[nat4900]

[QUOTE="iamwhatiseem, post: 18865477, member: 24610"]It is inarguable. Almost 100% of the benefactors of Obama's "recovery" went to the wealthiest people and corporations. PERIOD. It is a fact.[/QUOTE]


So, when Obama borrowed tons of money to EXTEND unemployment benefits......that money actually went to the wealthy???........Is THAT your contention?

You're pulling "inarguable facts" out of your fat ass.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Nothing what so fucking ever was the slightest bit improved. It was a very costly eight year cluster fuck.

Hey, fuck head.......with Obama's borrowing did we NOT pull out of a recession??
Did we NOT pull out from a 10% unemployment rate to 4.6%???
Did we NOT save a good chunk of the auto industry?
Did we NOT avert a full blown DEPRESSION?
Did we not help pay for the unpaid for TWO costly wars?
Did we not help pay for GWB Medicare Advantage?

Go back to bed......

With Trump's tax cuts we make America great again.

An Obama supporter complaining about the National Debt.
You can't make this shit up.

So you're admitting that rightwingers don't give a shit about the national debt.

That is goddam funny.

Scarecrow much?

You deny it? Then state for the record that you oppose this budget busting tax cut.

Maybe he supports the tax cut, and the spending cuts afterwards...

Right. The GOP is going to cut Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security to offset those huge tax cuts for the super rich.

Have fun selling that to normal America.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Well, let's assume a few things to place this into perspective:

First, besides the numbers, lower taxes, accountability of the use of money and less intervention in the lives of American citizens by the government is a good thing. Taxation is necessary for a functioning nation, enforcing less taxes is even better in this function.

Now, let's forget the old models of growth. If Trump can hit 2%+ annually for his term, that is a minimum of 8% growth on this economy With this growth is higher revenue and less people on welfare, helping both sides of the ledger. As it were, he could hit 3.5% growth this year and maybe even 4% next year, who knows? So 12-14% for these four years is not out of the question, a major estimation that most economists don't use. If he beats these results, the tax cut will be a blip.

Consider the $4T that might be injected back into the economy, taxed at 21% or whatever that number might be

Consider the expansion of businesses, buy backs of shares (which when sold by investors, is, you guess it, taxed).

All of this would add revenue. Most important though will be jobs during the expansion. Increasing revenue sources while decreasing expenses in the ledger.

All in all, these cuts are valid and if he succeeds he will make everyone look foolish, if he hasn't already. What will be key going forward is how he addresses abuses of trade from China, Mexico and Canada. If he decides that trade deficits are unacceptable, abuses too great and demands tariffs, that will be trillions back into the U.S over 4 years. Don't worry, it won't hurt the consumer much, the companies will have to accept lower profits, or face further competition if they price themselves too high.

God Bless America! Get 'er done Trump!

 

[WillowTree]

The republicans plan to make the working class pay for the $1.5 trillion deficit by cutting their Social Security benefits and cutting their Medicare benefits.

People on Medicare and social security are mostly RETIRED. SO. FOR YOU TO CALL THEM WORKING CLASS IS DISHONEST. Innit?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Nothing what so fucking ever was the slightest bit improved. It was a very costly eight year cluster fuck.

Hey, fuck head.......with Obama's borrowing did we NOT pull out of a recession??
Did we NOT pull out from a 10% unemployment rate to 4.6%???
Did we NOT save a good chunk of the auto industry?
Did we NOT avert a full blown DEPRESSION?
Did we not help pay for the unpaid for TWO costly wars?
Did we not help pay for GWB Medicare Advantage?

Go back to bed......

Actually no we didn't.
The data has been out there for everyone to see.
It is inarguable. Almost 100% of the benefactors of Obama's "recovery" went to the wealthiest people and corporations. PERIOD. It is a fact. The rich got richer as a direct result of the $Trillions Obama gave away to them than any other time in American history.
Regan talked about trickle down economics. Obama took it to a level never seen before. PERIOD.

Obama raised taxes on the rich, remember? 2014?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

So, when Obama borrowed tons of money to EXTEND unemployment benefits......that money actually went to the wealthy???........Is THAT your contention?

You're pulling "inarguable facts" out of your fat ass.

Yet another post that shows you know nothing about what happened.

 

[WillowTree]

Nothing what so fucking ever was the slightest bit improved. It was a very costly eight year cluster fuck.

Hey, fuck head.......with Obama's borrowing did we NOT pull out of a recession??
Did we NOT pull out from a 10% unemployment rate to 4.6%???
Did we NOT save a good chunk of the auto industry?
Did we NOT avert a full blown DEPRESSION?
Did we not help pay for the unpaid for TWO costly wars?
Did we not help pay for GWB Medicare Advantage?

Go back to bed......

Two things fucktard. If all the above are true why did forty million MORE PEOPLE END UP ON FOODSTAMPS? Why was the GDP so fucking low?

 

[nat4900]

Yet another post that shows you know nothing about what happened.

LOL (thanks).....Like a stated earlier...."go to bed"

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Nothing what so fucking ever was the slightest bit improved. It was a very costly eight year cluster fuck.

Hey, fuck head.......with Obama's borrowing did we NOT pull out of a recession??
Did we NOT pull out from a 10% unemployment rate to 4.6%???
Did we NOT save a good chunk of the auto industry?
Did we NOT avert a full blown DEPRESSION?
Did we not help pay for the unpaid for TWO costly wars?
Did we not help pay for GWB Medicare Advantage?

Go back to bed......

Actually no we didn't.
The data has been out there for everyone to see.
It is inarguable. Almost 100% of the benefactors of Obama's "recovery" went to the wealthiest people and corporations. PERIOD. It is a fact. The rich got richer as a direct result of the $Trillions Obama gave away to them than any other time in American history.
Regan talked about trickle down economics. Obama took it to a level never seen before. PERIOD.

Obama raised taxes on the rich, remember? 2014?

he more than made up for it in free money.
Geez you people know absolutely nothing.

 

[WillowTree]

Republicans are counting on their old dirty trick of no one at the bottom will care about giving 83% to the top 1%, as long as they get some crumbs.....

I could care less about the 47% of the shitfucks who don't pay taxes. Maybe if they got a fucking job then they too could get a tax break...Take away the trillion dollars of welfare and those worthless fucks would find a job, you know that Obama's economic recovery had created. Pay down the debt in 20 years with the trillion dollars saved for keeping those scums of the Earth alive and reliant on the Dimocrap Party.

War on poverty cost
$22 trillion -- three
The War on Poverty has cost $22 trillion -- three times more than what the government has spent on all wars in American history. Federal and state governments spend $1 trillion in taxpayer dollars on America's 80 means-tested welfare programs annually.
The War on Poverty Has Cost $22 Trillion - NCPA
www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=25288

idiot!! The 47% are working or retired from working or the disabled ....

Horseshit

 

[easyt65]

No, no,,,,,by all means be "proud" of your fellow idiot's racism......

You are the one telling people to burn crosses in people's yard, Gnat. No spin will erase your words...or your racist heart.

 

[nat4900]

Why was the GDP so fucking low?

It wasn't.....STOP watching Fox and Friends


GDP Growth From Obama Era to Now
Quarterly GDP growth reached above 3% about 8 times under President Obama.
Donald Trump Says U.S. Never Hit 3% GDP Growth Under Obama — But It's Misleading

 

[NYcarbineer]

Nothing what so fucking ever was the slightest bit improved. It was a very costly eight year cluster fuck.

Hey, fuck head.......with Obama's borrowing did we NOT pull out of a recession??
Did we NOT pull out from a 10% unemployment rate to 4.6%???
Did we NOT save a good chunk of the auto industry?
Did we NOT avert a full blown DEPRESSION?
Did we not help pay for the unpaid for TWO costly wars?
Did we not help pay for GWB Medicare Advantage?

Go back to bed......

Actually no we didn't.
The data has been out there for everyone to see.
It is inarguable. Almost 100% of the benefactors of Obama's "recovery" went to the wealthiest people and corporations. PERIOD. It is a fact. The rich got richer as a direct result of the $Trillions Obama gave away to them than any other time in American history.
Regan talked about trickle down economics. Obama took it to a level never seen before. PERIOD.

Obama raised taxes on the rich, remember? 2014?

he more than made up for it in free money.
Geez you people know absolutely nothing.

I don't see you backing anything up with a shred of evidence.

 

[Care4all]

So everyone on the Rightwing thinks it was a good thing for their representatives to engineer an even greater disparity between the richest and the working class?

We wonder why we have the greatest disparity between the rich and poor in this Nation, but now we know why.....CONGRESS is who creates it, With tax bills like this.....

 

[miketx]

 

[miketx]

So everyone on the Rightwing thinks it was a good thing for their representatives to engineer an even greater disparity between the richest and the working class?

We wonder why we have the greatest disparity between the rich and poor in this Nation, but now we know why.....CONGRESS is who creates it, With tax bills like this.....

Preaching communism! Way to go!

 

[nat4900]

You are the one telling people to burn crosses in people's yard, Gnat. No spin will erase your words...or your racist heart.

Hey, Mr. Fuck head.....Here's what you twin wrote that prompted MY retort....Be PROUD. and know who is among YOUR ilk......Who do you think that idiot was talking about???

I could care less about the 47% of the shitfucks who don't pay taxes. Maybe if they got a fucking job then they too could get a tax break...Take away the trillion dollars of welfare and those worthless fucks would find a job, you know that Obama's economic recovery had created. Pay down the debt in 20 years with the trillion dollars saved for keeping those scums of the Earth alive and reliant on the Dimocrap Party.

 

[miketx]

You are the one telling people to burn crosses in people's yard, Gnat. No spin will erase your words...or your racist heart.

Hey, Mr. Fuck head.....Here's what you twin wrote that prompted MY retort....Be PROUD. and know who is among YOUR ilk......Who do you think that idiot was talking about???

I could care less about the 47% of the shitfucks who don't pay taxes. Maybe if they got a fucking job then they too could get a tax break...Take away the trillion dollars of welfare and those worthless fucks would find a job, you know that Obama's economic recovery had created. Pay down the debt in 20 years with the trillion dollars saved for keeping those scums of the Earth alive and reliant on the Dimocrap Party.

Sounds like you are on the verge of having a nervous breakdown over being told the truth, huh commie?

 

[nat4900]

If all the above are true why did forty million MORE PEOPLE END UP ON FOODSTAMPS?

When you have 800,000 people join the unemployment line from 2007 and 2008, what did you expect regarding food stamps???

Here.............

A report by the Food Research & Action Center, a hunger and nutrition advocacy group, applauded......that from April 2015 to April 2016, participation is down 1.9 million participants.

 

[jknowgood]

Has anyone ever wondered why the treasury had to borrow 10x more without these tax cuts under Obama. This person must have missed that, I didn't hear anything about a scam back then.

As expected from fucked up, right wing morons......Here, from my O/P)

(now watch right wingers begin their moronic rant, "since I was screwed by democrats on debt, I'm more than willing to be screwed again by elected republicans....")

I'm not saying this at all. Tell me have yo read the bill in its entirety? Or you just spouting talking points as usual?