Tax cuts are theft

[LilOlLady]

TAX CUTS ARE THEFT

We, the People built our democracy and the empowerment and protections it bestows. We built the infrastructure, schools and all of the public structures, laws, courts, monetary system, etc. that enable enterprise to prosper. That prosperity is the bounty of our democracy and by contract it is supposed to be shared and reinvested. That is the contract. Our system enables some people to become wealthy but all of us are supposed to benefit from this system. Why else would We, the People have set up this system, if not for the benefit of We, the People?

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/201 ... lification

 

[boedicca]

What a load of swill.

 

[Sallow]

TAX CUTS ARE THEFT

We, the People built our democracy and the empowerment and protections it bestows. We built the infrastructure, schools and all of the public structures, laws, courts, monetary system, etc. that enable enterprise to prosper. That prosperity is the bounty of our democracy and by contract it is supposed to be shared and reinvested. That is the contract. Our system enables some people to become wealthy but all of us are supposed to benefit from this system. Why else would We, the People have set up this system, if not for the benefit of We, the People?

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/201 ... lification

Said it before..and will say it again.

Commies don't pay taxes.

 

[Ragnar]

What a load of swill.

Right?

Sadly, "We the People" decided that around half of us should pay no income tax, making the rest of us easy targets for the parasites.

 

[Sallow]

What a load of swill.

Right?

Sadly, "We the People" decided that around half of us should pay no income tax, making the rest of us easy targets for the parasites.

You may have a point..although I wouldn't go so far as to call people like the Koch Brothers "parasites". I mean people like Thane and Madoff are still Americans.

They may leech off the economy with sweet tax payer deals..where risk is socialized and profit is privatized but people like Trump do not deserve to be called parasites.

They just need to pay their fair share.

Taxes should change the name too.

Patriot payments..I like the ring of that.

Yeah..Patriot Payments.

 

[Ragnar]

What a load of swill.

Right?

Sadly, "We the People" decided that around half of us should pay no income tax, making the rest of us easy targets for the parasites.

You may have a point..although I wouldn't go so far as to call people like the Koch Brothers "parasites". I mean people like Thane and Madoff are still Americans.

They may leech off the economy with sweet tax payer deals..where risk is socialized and profit is privatized but people like Trump do not deserve to be called parasites.

They just need to pay their fair share.

Taxes should change the name too.

Patriot payments..I like the ring of that.

Yeah..Patriot Payments.

Perhaps you would not go so far as to call some people parasites because you have a vague knowledge of the meaning of the word.

Patriot Payments is not bad though. Orwell would be proud.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

So let me get this straight...
Taking money out of my paycheck before I even see it to pay for a BUNCH of programs that I do not support, and to hand over to people who don't even have a job - is not theft.
But if I want to have less of this money taken out - it is.

Yeah.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Orwell would be proud.

As to the OP, that is scary. The person who earns the money owns the money. The idea that the government owns all the earnings is what made the Ottoman and Manchu empires such great places to live.

 

[loosecannon]

TAX CUTS ARE THEFT

We, the People built our democracy and the empowerment and protections it bestows. We built the infrastructure, schools and all of the public structures, laws, courts, monetary system, etc. that enable enterprise to prosper. That prosperity is the bounty of our democracy and by contract it is supposed to be shared and reinvested. That is the contract. Our system enables some people to become wealthy but all of us are supposed to benefit from this system. Why else would We, the People have set up this system, if not for the benefit of We, the People?

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/201 ... lification

The link leads to a page that says "page not available".

The text you quoted is spot on. But it applies far more succinctly to globalizing corporatists than it does even the rich imo. Giant corporations that benefit for decades on the infrastructure and incubative climate of the US to acquire stature and then offshore whole industries are truly parasitic. They kill the host nation in the end.

Whereas increasing wealth disparity merely kills the dreams of the poor.

 

[loosecannon]

Orwell would be proud.

As to the OP, that is scary. The person who earns the money owns the money. The idea that the government owns all the earnings is what made the Ottoman and Manchu empires such great places to live.

What the OP said is correct. The society itself is what subsidizes most of the wages we all receive in the US regardless of where we are on the income ladder.

Evidence of this is our wealth, our standard of living and our wages vs the rest of the world.

The bargain is: you can make a lot of money but you have to give some back. It's a bargain. If you had sense you would embrace it.

Try to make a decent living in Haiti or Afghanistan with a zero tax rate and get back to me.

 

[Sallow]

So let me get this straight...
Taking money out of my paycheck before I even see it to pay for a BUNCH of programs that I do not support, and to hand over to people who don't even have a job - is not theft.
But if I want to have less of this money taken out - it is.

Yeah.

Which "program" do you not support?

The Military? The Post Office..okay..those are socialist..but mandated by the Constitution.

The House of Representatives? The Senate? The Executive Office? The Supreme Court? Again..mandated by the Constitution.

How about all those socialist agencies that keep your water clean, your food edible, your drugs reliable, your workplace safe, your children (and yourself) educated, your highways, bridges and roads maintained, your fires put out, and the streets free of crime?

Which one of these things do you not think well worth the cost of your Patriot Payment?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

TAX CUTS ARE THEFT

We, the People built our democracy and the empowerment and protections it bestows. We built the infrastructure, schools and all of the public structures, laws, courts, monetary system, etc. that enable enterprise to prosper. That prosperity is the bounty of our democracy and by contract it is supposed to be shared and reinvested. That is the contract. Our system enables some people to become wealthy but all of us are supposed to benefit from this system. Why else would We, the People have set up this system, if not for the benefit of We, the People?

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/201 ... lification

The link leads to a page that says "page not available".

The text you quoted is spot on. But it applies far more succinctly to globalizing corporatists than it does even the rich imo. Giant corporations that benefit for decades on the infrastructure and incubative climate of the US to acquire stature and then offshore whole industries are truly parasitic. They kill the host nation in the end.

Whereas increasing wealth disparity merely kills the dreams of the poor.

That would be true if taxes just went to these things you speak of.
But that isn't so.
Having said that, yes globalization is the death nail that is quickly evaporating our way of life.
And we applaud them for doing it everyday by choosing cheap products to purchase.
We are sheep. We deserve to be shorn. At least until we learn to no longer be sheep.

 

[Ragnar]

I've said all over USMB what I would cut from the budget. Maybe some on the left could pick what they would save from the list below...



Government waste at it’s finest | Political Realities

* The federal government made at least $72 billion in improper payments in 2008.[1]
Washington spends $92 billion on corporate welfare (excluding TARP) versus $71 billion on homeland security.[2]

* Washington spends $25 billion annually maintaining unused or vacant federal properties.[3]

* Government auditors spent the past five years examining all federal programs and found that 22 percent of them–costing taxpayers a total of $123 billion annually–fail to show any positive impact on the populations they serve.[4]

* The Congressional Budget Office published a “Budget Options” series identifying more than $100 billion in potential spending cuts.[5]

* Examples from multiple Government Accountability Office (GAO) reports of wasteful duplication include 342 economic development programs; 130 programs serving the disabled; 130 programs serving at-risk youth; 90 early childhood development programs; 75 programs funding international education, cultural, and training exchange activities; and 72 safe water programs.[6]

* Washington will spend $2.6 million training Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on the job.[7]

* A GAO audit classified nearly half of all purchases on government credit cards as improper, fraudulent, or embezzled. Examples of taxpayer-funded purchases include gambling, mortgage payments, liquor, lingerie, iPods, Xboxes, jewelry, Internet dating services, and Hawaiian vacations. In one extraordinary example, the Postal Service spent $13,500 on one dinner at a Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse, including “over 200 appetizers and over $3,000 of alcohol, including more than 40 bottles of wine costing more than $50 each and brand-name liquor such as Courvoisier, Belvedere and Johnny Walker Gold.” The 81 guests consumed an average of $167 worth of food and drink apiece.[8]

* Federal agencies are delinquent on nearly 20 percent of employee travel charge cards, costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars annually.[9]

 

[Sallow]

Right?

Sadly, "We the People" decided that around half of us should pay no income tax, making the rest of us easy targets for the parasites.

You may have a point..although I wouldn't go so far as to call people like the Koch Brothers "parasites". I mean people like Thane and Madoff are still Americans.

They may leech off the economy with sweet tax payer deals..where risk is socialized and profit is privatized but people like Trump do not deserve to be called parasites.

They just need to pay their fair share.

Taxes should change the name too.

Patriot payments..I like the ring of that.

Yeah..Patriot Payments.

Perhaps you would not go so far as to call some people parasites because you have a vague knowledge of the meaning of the word.

Patriot Payments is not bad though. Orwell would be proud.

"Freedom Fries"

"Patriot Act"

"Fight them there so we don't fight them here"

"Enemy Combatants"

"Enhanced Interrogation"

"Weapons of Mass Destruction"

"Bush Doctrine"

You ever read Orwell? He would not be proud of this. He would be frightened that his vision of dystopia might really be coming true.

 

[Sallow]

* Washington will spend $2.6 million training Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on the job.[7]

Well..who the heck wants to hire a drunk chinese prostitute?

Lets get real.

 

[daveman]

orwell would be proud.

tax cuts are theft

war is peace

freedom is slavery

ignorance is strength

 

[Synthaholic]

I've said all over USMB what I would cut from the budget. Maybe some on the left could pick what they would save from the list below...



Government waste at it’s finest | Political Realities

* The federal government made at least $72 billion in improper payments in 2008.[1]
Washington spends $92 billion on corporate welfare (excluding TARP) versus $71 billion on homeland security.[2]

* Washington spends $25 billion annually maintaining unused or vacant federal properties.[3]

* Government auditors spent the past five years examining all federal programs and found that 22 percent of them–costing taxpayers a total of $123 billion annually–fail to show any positive impact on the populations they serve.[4]

* The Congressional Budget Office published a “Budget Options” series identifying more than $100 billion in potential spending cuts.[5]

* Examples from multiple Government Accountability Office (GAO) reports of wasteful duplication include 342 economic development programs; 130 programs serving the disabled; 130 programs serving at-risk youth; 90 early childhood development programs; 75 programs funding international education, cultural, and training exchange activities; and 72 safe water programs.[6]

* Washington will spend $2.6 million training Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on the job.[7]

* A GAO audit classified nearly half of all purchases on government credit cards as improper, fraudulent, or embezzled. Examples of taxpayer-funded purchases include gambling, mortgage payments, liquor, lingerie, iPods, Xboxes, jewelry, Internet dating services, and Hawaiian vacations. In one extraordinary example, the Postal Service spent $13,500 on one dinner at a Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse, including “over 200 appetizers and over $3,000 of alcohol, including more than 40 bottles of wine costing more than $50 each and brand-name liquor such as Courvoisier, Belvedere and Johnny Walker Gold.” The 81 guests consumed an average of $167 worth of food and drink apiece.[8]

* Federal agencies are delinquent on nearly 20 percent of employee travel charge cards, costing taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars annually.[9]

NewsBusters' Huston falsely claims Obama responsible for funding "Chinese hookers" study

May 13, 2009 1:09 pm ET

SUMMARY: NewsBusters' Warner Todd Huston falsely claimed that President Obama funded a $2.6 million NIH grant to "help train Chinese prostitutes to 'drink responsibly on the job.' " In fact, the grant was awarded during the Bush administration.

In a May 13 blog entry posted on several conservative blogs, NewsBusters contributing writer Warner Todd Huston falsely claimed that President Obama funded a $2.6 million National Institutes of Health (NIH) grant to "help train Chinese prostitutes to 'drink responsibly on the job.' " In the post -- headlined, "Obama Pays to Treat Alcoholism in Chinese Hookers" -- Huston claimed that "the President of 'change' seems to be The One that drunken Chinese prostitutes 'have been waiting for.' ... [D]id Obama become president of Chinese hookers, too?" In fact, the NIH grant, which will "establish and evaluate whether an alcohol and HIV intervention center can assist in reducing the spread of HIV/AIDS among sex workers in China," was awarded during the Bush administration. Indeed, the very source Huston cited in making the claim -- a May 12 Cybercast News Service (CNS) article -- reported that the grant was "made last November." A Wayne State University press release announcing the grant was issued on November 5, 2008.


Bret Baier and Glenn Beck each also referred to the $2.6 million NIH grant during the May 12 broadcasts of their respective Fox News programs and portrayed the grant as controversial, but neither mentioned that the grant was made during the Bush administration.

 

[Foxfyre]

And your source for the above is. . . . . ?

 

[loosecannon]

TAX CUTS ARE THEFT

We, the People built our democracy and the empowerment and protections it bestows. We built the infrastructure, schools and all of the public structures, laws, courts, monetary system, etc. that enable enterprise to prosper. That prosperity is the bounty of our democracy and by contract it is supposed to be shared and reinvested. That is the contract. Our system enables some people to become wealthy but all of us are supposed to benefit from this system. Why else would We, the People have set up this system, if not for the benefit of We, the People?

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/201 ... lification

The link leads to a page that says "page not available".

The text you quoted is spot on. But it applies far more succinctly to globalizing corporatists than it does even the rich imo. Giant corporations that benefit for decades on the infrastructure and incubative climate of the US to acquire stature and then offshore whole industries are truly parasitic. They kill the host nation in the end.

Whereas increasing wealth disparity merely kills the dreams of the poor.

That would be true if taxes just went to these things you speak of.
But that isn't so.
Having said that, yes globalization is the death nail that is quickly evaporating our way of life.
And we applaud them for doing it everyday by choosing cheap products to purchase.
We are sheep. We deserve to be shorn. At least until we learn to no longer be sheep.

that's all too true

 

[loosecannon]

orwell would be proud.

tax cuts are theft

war is peace

freedom is slavery

ignorance is strength

You forgot:

tax cuts reduce the deficit