Surprise! Oversampling Dems Puts Obama in Lead

January 13, 2014
Voter fraud? What voter fraud?
Rick Moran

Barack Obama's election not only caused the oceans to recede, but the dead to rise from the grave.

At least, that's what an investigation by New York officials revealed when they sent out dozens of agents to vote in a New York election.

John Fund:

Liberals who oppose efforts to prevent voter fraud claim that there is no fraud - or at least not any that involves voting in person at the polls.

But New York City's watchdog Department of Investigations has just provided the latest evidence of how easy it is to commit voter fraud that is almost undetectable. DOI undercover agents showed up at 63 polling places last fall and pretended to be voters who should have been turned away by election officials; the agents assumed the names of individuals who had died or moved out of town, or who were sitting in jail. In 61 instances, or 97 percent of the time, the testers were allowed to vote. Those who did vote cast only a write-in vote for a "John Test" so as to not affect the outcome of any contest. DOI published its findings two weeks ago in a searing 70-page report accusing the city's Board of Elections of incompetence, waste, nepotism, and lax procedures.

The Board of Elections, which has a $750 million annual budget and a work force of 350 people, reacted in classic bureaucratic fashion, which prompted one city paper to deride it as "a 21st-century survivor of Boss Tweed-style politics." The Board approved a resolution referring the DOI's investigators for prosecution. It also asked the state's attorney general to determine whether DOI had violated the civil rights of voters who had moved or are felons, and it sent a letter of complaint to Mayor Bill de Blasio. Normally, I wouldn't think de Blasio would give the BOE the time of day, but New York's new mayor has long been a close ally of former leaders of ACORN, the now-disgraced "community organizing" group that saw its employees convicted of voter-registration fraud all over the country during and after the 2008 election.

Just what did the investigators uncover?

You'd think more media outlets would have been interested, because the sloppiness revealed in the DOI report is mind-boggling. Young undercover agents were able to vote using the names of people three times their age, people who in fact were dead. In one example, a 24-year female agent gave the name of someone who had died in 2012 at age 87; the workers at the Manhattan polling site gave her a ballot, no questions asked. Even the two cases where poll workers turned away an investigator raise eyebrows. In the first case, a poll worker on Staten Island walked outside with the undercover investigator who had just been refused a ballot; the "voter" was advised to go to the polling place near where he used to live and "play dumb" in order to vote. In the second case, the investigator was stopped from voting only because the felon whose name he was using was the son of the election official at the polling place.

An isolated incident? Only confined to corrupt New York City?

Not hardly:

Despite rumors that some politiqueras went over the line in encouraging voters, the tradition continued in Donna and other border towns and cities, and campaigns for nearly every local office or seat have paid politiqueras to turn out the vote in contested races.




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Ahh, American Thinker, home of extremely racist screeds and calls for not allowing the poor to vote.

BTW, where is the EXACT data?

Yet your only response is a lib talking point about racism. You seem smart enough to not fall for the claim that blacks being asked for an I.D. is racist.

I guess I overestimated you.


Uh, if you read my large thread on electioneering, then you would have seen that I am a big proponent of voter IDS...

http://www.usmessageboard.com/clean-debate-zone/333884-electioneering.html

You were the one who decided to inject "blacks" into this conversation.

Fascinating... but maybe again, it was just a knee-jerk reaction on your part.... can happen.
 
Thanks, Goebbels.


Oh, indeed, when on the losing side of an argument, invoke Godwin. Works every time.

Not.

Oh, yea, cos some dork somewhere at sometime came up with a cheesy theory about every political discussion invoking Nazis eventually. Like that means something, idiot. I just called it how I saw it. I don't not say how I see it because you're beholden to some fallacy.

That's right, TGG, you have now just invoked the "far right reactionary PC fertility factor" in argument.

You have an assertion without evidence now fertilized with poo.

The smelly result? lt is the same: the ballot boxes were not stuffed when American chose Obama instead of Romney.
 
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Obama's convention bounce seems to have evaporated. Rasmussen today has Romney up 3 points. Today's Gallup tracking poll had Obama up 5, a loss of 2 points over two days. Gallup uses a 7 day rolling average, so expect this number to continue to come down over the next several days. Undaunted, the media are trumpeting new polls with show Obama with 3 point lead nationally and significant leads in the battleground states of Florida, Ohio and Virginia. As is becoming routine, these new polls again oversample Democrats.

I realize oversampling Democrats is simply part of an effort to create an air of inevitability for Obama's reelection. Its a narrative the media is desperate to foster.

Surprise! Oversampling Dems Puts Obama in Lead
I am willing to bet $100 that Obama will not get re elected in 2016
 
Obama's convention bounce seems to have evaporated. Rasmussen today has Romney up 3 points. Today's Gallup tracking poll had Obama up 5, a loss of 2 points over two days. Gallup uses a 7 day rolling average, so expect this number to continue to come down over the next several days. Undaunted, the media are trumpeting new polls with show Obama with 3 point lead nationally and significant leads in the battleground states of Florida, Ohio and Virginia. As is becoming routine, these new polls again oversample Democrats.

I realize oversampling Democrats is simply part of an effort to create an air of inevitability for Obama's reelection. Its a narrative the media is desperate to foster.

Surprise! Oversampling Dems Puts Obama in Lead
I am willing to bet $100 that Obama will not get re elected in 2016


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Here are all 61 polls for Pennsylvania:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ao6IyAPQ8DmmdDhyOXA2ay13c2ozTEVsOWlpTWNheEE#gid=41

End polling average:

Obama +3.88

End-polling average, last two days of polling only:

Obama +4.20

Final result:

Obama +5.38


His win in PA in 2012, though smaller than in 2008, is still larger than:

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/compare.php?year=2012&fips=42&f=1&off=0&elect=0&type=state

Kerry 2004
Gore 2000
Bush 41 1988
Carter 76
Humprey 68
Kennedy 60
Truman 48
Dewey 44
Hoover 32
Teddy R. 12


It is just slightly smaller than Ike's win in the Keystone State from 52.

Reagan was not able to get much over +7 here.

Pennsylvania is a traditionally single digit win state, the most recent exception being 2008, then 1972.


The polling in PA was right on target. And btw, this was the ONLY battleground state where Rasmussen nailed it, at Obama +5. Without the faulty Susquehanna poll (which showed a tie) in the mix, the average would have been:

Obama +4.43

You love to put all the window dressing on it while ignoring the reality of grand voter fraud. :eusa_shhh:


That's not window dressing: those are cold, hard mathematical facts.

What, you think the polling was already accounting for voter fraud?

Haaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Facts" do not always equal truth. Did you miss that day in elementary school?
 
Facts are required to reach the truth: the ballot boxes were not stuffed by either party.
 
It was actually the case in the real world too silly.

For example, in the last 44 polls taken in Pennsylvania taken over many months, Obama led in 43 and was tied in 1. Yet, right up to election day, Republicans thought they had a really good chance of winning that state.

And then they think they lost by fraud.

:rolleyes:

I think America lost. If you have so much fraud in the biggest election in the world, she lost. Take bitterness out of the picture, I weep for America.

BTW, liberals complained about a lot less a lot more in 2000. That's pretty much the pattern.

You silly little ass, you weep for the fact that you and people like you got your asses kicked by the American Voter 6Nov12. We didn't like your vision for this nation. We still do not like your vision for this nation.
 
Elections have consequences. Elections have consequences.

Only, the Right doesn't want to believe it.

But if they take the Senate in November, and I think it is very, very likely that they will, then they will be saying really loud:

"Elections have consequences. Elections have consequences."

Mark my words. It will happen.
 
For example, in the last 44 polls taken in Pennsylvania taken over many months, Obama led in 43 and was tied in 1. Yet, right up to election day, Republicans thought they had a really good chance of winning that state.

And then they think they lost by fraud.

:rolleyes:

I think America lost. If you have so much fraud in the biggest election in the world, she lost. Take bitterness out of the picture, I weep for America.

BTW, liberals complained about a lot less a lot more in 2000. That's pretty much the pattern.

You silly little ass, you weep for the fact that you and people like you got your asses kicked by the American Voter 6Nov12. We didn't like your vision for this nation. We still do not like your vision for this nation.

I wonder if Obama would have won if the facts of obamacare would have been exposed along with the lies of your great messiah before the election.
 
I think America lost. If you have so much fraud in the biggest election in the world, she lost. Take bitterness out of the picture, I weep for America.

BTW, liberals complained about a lot less a lot more in 2000. That's pretty much the pattern.

You silly little ass, you weep for the fact that you and people like you got your asses kicked by the American Voter 6Nov12. We didn't like your vision for this nation. We still do not like your vision for this nation.

I wonder if Obama would have won if the facts of obamacare would have been exposed along with the lies of your great messiah before the election.

Ok, just for clarity, for the mental lightweights out there.

This is the Messiah:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuGSOkYWfDQ]Messiah - A Sacred Oratorio, Handel - conducted by Sir Colin Davis - YouTube[/ame]


This is NOT the Messiah:

President_Barack_Obama.jpg



Case closed.
 
yes, you did. You are going to be an excellent boytoy, I see...

Gay.


Well, so many cons are just so obsessed with the "ghey" these days, I thought to play a part with which you would feel comfortable...

LOL. I'm "obsessed" with gays? You brought it up (again). And is there a reason that you can't spell gay right? Did you decide that that accurate definition is offensive too?
 

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