Againsheila
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I think everyone who has ever been in high-school has contemplated suicide at one time or another.
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You know.........there are several verses in the Bible that deal with suicide.
Incidentally, none of the verses are against it. If you really need to have a mulligan, Father will let you do so, just don't take anyone else out with you.
1 Corinthians 10:31 reveal that the Holy Spirit dwells in those who are saved. It is our responsibility to treat Him with respect, and suicide is not appropriate.
Genesis 1:26,27 (and similar verses) reveal that we are made in the image of God. This is one of the reasons we are not allowed to murder (see Genesis 9:6,7), so again suicide would be a bad thing.
The Bible teaches us to trust, depend on, and believe in God throughout its length. (Romans 8:28 is one example.) To take your own life would show no faith in God. Notice that although the prophets, apostles, and Jesus Christ were persecuted, tortured, and put to death; they did not commit suicide for an easy out. They fought the good fight to the end (see 2 Timothy 4:6-8).
Be aware of how suicide affects other peoples opinion of the person who died. It is common for people to wonder if someone who commits suicide went to heaven. (That is the reason for this pageget it?) That is a poor testimony for a Christian warrior.
What the Bible Says About Suicide
I think everyone who has ever been in high-school has contemplated suicide at one time or another.
I think everyone who has ever been in high-school has contemplated suicide at one time or another.
No....but I did want to rip someone's head off and shit down their neck.
When I left the military I came about as close to it as I've ever been. You feel worthless. But then that soon passes.
Every time I look from high place I wonder what it would be like to jump. Then again I've mountain-climbed and would hate to fall. It's weird.
"Permanent solution to a temporary problem" only applies some of the time. For those with clinical, lifelong depression the above platitude doesn't ring true nor does it ring true for those suffering from terminal illnesses or persistent friendlessness.
"Permanent solution to a temporary problem" only applies some of the time. For those with clinical, lifelong depression the above platitude doesn't ring true nor does it ring true for those suffering from terminal illnesses or persistent friendlessness.
I have permanent life long depression and I tell you now suicide is WRONG. It is never justified.
Have you ever contemplated suicide??
Have you ever tried and someone rescued you??..or maybe you decided against it at the very last moment??
Do you know anyone who has committed suicide??
Have you ever contemplated suicide??
Have you ever tried and someone rescued you??..or maybe you decided against it at the very last moment??
Do you know anyone who has committed suicide??
Often.
No. Hopefully, if/when the day comes I decide to kill myself, I will be able to get it done.
Not that I'm aware of.
For many years I have considered suicide the likely way for my life to end. The thing that has changed as time goes on is the timing of it.
In my teen years I was put in a psychiatric hospital for a while and, while there, diagnosed as chronically depressed (or some similar wording, it was a long time ago ). While I certainly was depressed a decent amount of the time at that point of my life, I've never put much store in that diagnosis. I was a depressed teenager; not an unusual creature, that! Now I am much less often depressed, I am calmer, but I still expect that I will one day kill myself. In part that is because I have never been great at life; I cannot remember a time when I looked to the future with much hope. On the other hand, I may live a long life and simply find a point where life is too painful to continue. Age and disease can often lead people to a point I would not be willing to live through.
Have you ever contemplated suicide??
Have you ever tried and someone rescued you??..or maybe you decided against it at the very last moment??
Do you know anyone who has committed suicide??
Often.
No. Hopefully, if/when the day comes I decide to kill myself, I will be able to get it done.
Not that I'm aware of.
For many years I have considered suicide the likely way for my life to end. The thing that has changed as time goes on is the timing of it.
In my teen years I was put in a psychiatric hospital for a while and, while there, diagnosed as chronically depressed (or some similar wording, it was a long time ago ). While I certainly was depressed a decent amount of the time at that point of my life, I've never put much store in that diagnosis. I was a depressed teenager; not an unusual creature, that! Now I am much less often depressed, I am calmer, but I still expect that I will one day kill myself. In part that is because I have never been great at life; I cannot remember a time when I looked to the future with much hope. On the other hand, I may live a long life and simply find a point where life is too painful to continue. Age and disease can often lead people to a point I would not be willing to live through.
Oh goodness, please PLEASE talk to someone, even if it's me! Yes, I will talk to you!!
I know the feeling of no hope for the future.....I know the feeling of what's the use, because it's not going to get any better......please talk to someone.
Have you ever contemplated suicide??
Have you ever tried and someone rescued you??..or maybe you decided against it at the very last moment??
Do you know anyone who has committed suicide??
Often.
No. Hopefully, if/when the day comes I decide to kill myself, I will be able to get it done.
Not that I'm aware of.
For many years I have considered suicide the likely way for my life to end. The thing that has changed as time goes on is the timing of it.
In my teen years I was put in a psychiatric hospital for a while and, while there, diagnosed as chronically depressed (or some similar wording, it was a long time ago ). While I certainly was depressed a decent amount of the time at that point of my life, I've never put much store in that diagnosis. I was a depressed teenager; not an unusual creature, that! Now I am much less often depressed, I am calmer, but I still expect that I will one day kill myself. In part that is because I have never been great at life; I cannot remember a time when I looked to the future with much hope. On the other hand, I may live a long life and simply find a point where life is too painful to continue. Age and disease can often lead people to a point I would not be willing to live through.
There's two components.
One is that suicide is unbelievably cruel and selfish because of the unbearable pain to those left behind. Most especially when it is done at home or near where your loved ones are. They will spend years grieving, second guessing themselves, blaming themselves, reliving it and trying to figure out how it could have been prevented, etc. Sometimes that is the intent of the suicide making it even worse. Usually however, the person is so self centered they don't consider what they're doing to others.
The second is what you describe: a person in so much fear, physical pain, or mental torment that death is the only escape or relief that they see. And, as you say, most who fail in the attempt or who are stopped by others are usually later grateful that they still have life. I don't think it is cowardice to choose to kill oneself, however, For me, that would require a lot of courage.
I can't say that I have ever seriously considered suicide. I have had instances in which I was convinced I had some terrible illness and chose to just let nature take its course rather than deal with doctors, hospitals, etc. Is that the same thing? I don't know. (Fortunately, my diagnosis was wrong in those instances.)
True - one who commits suicide is focused on oneself. But are we not also, if we're left behind? Asking what WE did wrong, how WE miss them, etc.? Now, I'm not saying you're wrong - merely playing devil's advocate.
As humans, we are selfish, self-centered creatures. Death is just one more example. It is much harder for those left behind to be ok with the death than it is for someone to die.
My friend who attempted suicide would have left behind a young wife and two young children. I begged him to consider what their lives would be like without him. He asserted that they would be better off without him.
It's very difficult to reason with someone in that state of mind. Fortunately, some are able to get through.
"Permanent solution to a temporary problem" only applies some of the time. For those with clinical, lifelong depression the above platitude doesn't ring true nor does it ring true for those suffering from terminal illnesses or persistent friendlessness.
I have permanent life long depression and I tell you now suicide is WRONG. It is never justified.
Never?
I am terminal and have extreme pain which so far I can keep in reasonable check with opiates, very large doses.
Is life worth living when ones time is proven to be short and one must endure the end in extreme agony?
Speak for yourself fella, why do you think you can speak for everyone else?
That is freedom and liberty?
When the pain becomes unmanageable I will die of an "accidental overdose" which will be much easier on all my friends and relatives than watching me suffer extreme unmanageable pain.
The ones that understand know my plans and endorse them. Some would not understand I they must be let to believe that is was accidental.
I would also like to thank those who allowed this conversation to take place without making those of us who think like we do, feel ostracized. Or made fun of. Or urged to just DO IT. Or laughed at. The place I came from, this subject was taboo and it was not something anyone discussed or was allowed to discuss without much ridicule. Just knowing we can talk about it and not be picked on feels...peaceful in unpeaceful minds.
I agree. But it was not a subject one could discuss freely at the other place I posted at for years. One was made fun of, or urged to just do it and the person was ridiculed or called names or pics posted of poison or a bullet or whatever. It was fun time for some warped people. I had a good friend who was suffering. I didn't know. Nor did everyone else. She hung herself in her closet. Nobody laughed then. Prior to that? It was all a game.I would also like to thank those who allowed this conversation to take place without making those of us who think like we do, feel ostracized. Or made fun of. Or urged to just DO IT. Or laughed at. The place I came from, this subject was taboo and it was not something anyone discussed or was allowed to discuss without much ridicule. Just knowing we can talk about it and not be picked on feels...peaceful in unpeaceful minds.
This subject is nothing to laugh at.