Stupid Bastards Haven't Learned A Thing

[lovemymutts]

Let them expire. Republicans need to stand back and watch it happen.

Exactly, I hope they let them expire and the left finally gets what they want.

Exactly.. The left says higher taxes are needed to right the ship so they should help pay them.

Please by all means give just ONE example of ANY Democrat that has whined about paying higher taxes ."IF" they do expire,I will be ask to pay a whomping 3% more,that will really affect my lifestyle [sic].

 

[Newby]

Exactly, I hope they let them expire and the left finally gets what they want.

Exactly.. The left says higher taxes are needed to right the ship so they should help pay them.

Please by all means give just ONE example of ANY Democrat that has whined about paying higher taxes ."IF" they do expire,I will be ask to pay a whomping 3% more,that will really affect my lifestyle [sic].

That equates to 200 - 500 per month for a middle class family, it's going to hurt big time for most people. We know you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself, you didn't have to clarify it.


Add in energy prices going up, food going up, gas going up, a lot of people are going to be in deep trouble when those cuts expire.

And I just caught the 'if', why 'if'??? You guys have been screaming for years about these tax cuts, why are you afraid to let them expire now??

 

[bitterlyclingin]

We have a commander in chief who has lost the confidence of the military and the markets and who is also Hell bent on surrendering America to Islam. Why are you worrying about money?
We lost ground in retaking the Senate instead of gaining it, the Supreme Court does not have the temerity to stand up to this lawless and lawbreaking president. There are few options left for succor and relief from the arrogant rule by this abomination. One is by lone wolf and one more, today, in contrast to 1861, the man operating the forging press stamping out the bayonet blanks or machining the rifle barrels, clips and triggers is more likely to be found in the South whereas the man of the North in Detroit is more likely to be found waiting in line for his Obamabucks and presenting a highly stationary target, except when he's giving his 'whoes' their orders or dealing in cocoa leaf derivative.

 

[lovemymutts]

Exactly.. The left says higher taxes are needed to right the ship so they should help pay them.

Please by all means give just ONE example of ANY Democrat that has whined about paying higher taxes ."IF" they do expire,I will be ask to pay a whomping 3% more,that will really affect my lifestyle [sic].

That equates to 200 - 500 per month for a middle class family, it's going to hurt big time for most people. We know you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself, you didn't have to clarify it.


Add in energy prices going up, food going up, gas going up, a lot of people are going to be in deep trouble when those cuts expire.

And I just caught the 'if', why 'if'??? You guys have been screaming for years about these tax cuts, why are you afraid to let them expire now??

FACT-"IF" they expire the average family making 70,000 or MORE will see an average of 67.00 more in taxes per month. FACT

 

[jknowgood]

I thought the Bush tax cuts automatically expire

What are Republicans offering to save them?

Yeah, the reps have nothing to bargen for. The reps don't have the power to extend the taxcuts, they need the dems for that. And reps haven't shown that they re capable of being bipartisan (except for governor christie, but certainly not in the federal gov), so it will probably be blackmailing with a deadlock

Oh my goodness, for the past four years liberals have been whining about how republicans stopped everything obama tried to do. That's why the economy hasn't recovered. Now they don't have any power, so which is it? Like I stated, liberals have short memories.

 

[Claudette]

Exactly.. The left says higher taxes are needed to right the ship so they should help pay them.

Please by all means give just ONE example of ANY Democrat that has whined about paying higher taxes ."IF" they do expire,I will be ask to pay a whomping 3% more,that will really affect my lifestyle [sic].

That equates to 200 - 500 per month for a middle class family, it's going to hurt big time for most people. We know you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself, you didn't have to clarify it.


Add in energy prices going up, food going up, gas going up, a lot of people are going to be in deep trouble when those cuts expire.

And I just caught the 'if', why 'if'??? You guys have been screaming for years about these tax cuts, why are you afraid to let them expire now??

LMAO as well. Barry doesn't give a fuck what it will cost anyone. Hell. He could care less about the economy or anything else. He's living large and free because he's POTUS.

Let the tax cuts expire for everyone. Then watch the economy take off like a rocket. NOT

Barry has his second term and he doesn't need anyones vote and he could give a rats ass.

His second term will be very interesting. I just hope we poor working slobs can survive it.

 

[Photonic]

We have a commander in chief who has lost the confidence of the military and the markets and who is also Hell bent on surrendering America to Islam. Why are you worrying about money?
We lost ground in retaking the Senate instead of gaining it, the Supreme Court does not have the temerity to stand up to this lawless and lawbreaking president. There are few options left for succor and relief from the arrogant rule by this abomination. One is by lone wolf and one more, today, in contrast to 1861, the man operating the forging press stamping out the bayonet blanks or machining the rifle barrels, clips and triggers is more likely to be found in the South whereas the man of the North in Detroit is more likely to be found waiting in line for his Obamabucks and presenting a highly stationary target, except when he's giving his 'whoes' their orders or dealing in cocoa leaf derivative.

That completely explains why a majority of the military vote was for Obama!

 

[Newby]

Please by all means give just ONE example of ANY Democrat that has whined about paying higher taxes ."IF" they do expire,I will be ask to pay a whomping 3% more,that will really affect my lifestyle [sic].

That equates to 200 - 500 per month for a middle class family, it's going to hurt big time for most people. We know you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself, you didn't have to clarify it.


Add in energy prices going up, food going up, gas going up, a lot of people are going to be in deep trouble when those cuts expire.

And I just caught the 'if', why 'if'??? You guys have been screaming for years about these tax cuts, why are you afraid to let them expire now??

FACT-"IF" they expire the average family making 70,000 or MORE will see an average of 67.00 more in taxes per month. FACT

Care to link that? By your own 3% standard, it's $175 per month. That means a two income family with each income being $70,000 will pay $350 more per month in taxes.

If tax cuts expire, most of us will feel big pinch - DailyHerald.com

WASHINGTON — A typical middle-income family making $40,000 to $64,000 a year could see its taxes go up by $2,000 next year if lawmakers fail to renew a lengthy roster of tax cuts set to expire at the end of the year, according to a new report Monday.

Taxpayers across the income spectrum would be hit with large tax hikes, the Tax Policy Center said in its study, with households in the top 1 percent income range seeing an average tax increase of more than $120,000, while a family making between $110,000 to $140,000 could see a tax hike in the $6,000 range.

$110,000 a year, that's two $55,000 incomes, very middle class and describing a majority of households. That's $500 a month, you think the average family can take a $500 per month pay cut and not notice it??? You're out of your mind.

 

[Newby]

Please by all means give just ONE example of ANY Democrat that has whined about paying higher taxes ."IF" they do expire,I will be ask to pay a whomping 3% more,that will really affect my lifestyle [sic].

That equates to 200 - 500 per month for a middle class family, it's going to hurt big time for most people. We know you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself, you didn't have to clarify it.


Add in energy prices going up, food going up, gas going up, a lot of people are going to be in deep trouble when those cuts expire.

And I just caught the 'if', why 'if'??? You guys have been screaming for years about these tax cuts, why are you afraid to let them expire now??

LMAO as well. Barry doesn't give a fuck what it will cost anyone. Hell. He could care less about the economy or anything else. He's living large and free because he's POTUS.

Let the tax cuts expire for everyone. Then watch the economy take off like a rocket. NOT

Barry has his second term and he doesn't need anyones vote and he could give a rats ass.

His second term will be very interesting. I just hope we poor working slobs can survive it.

Not only will it stagger the economy, but people will be filing bankruptsy and losing their homes in record numbers even greater than what we have already seen.

 

[4Horsemen]

I don't think it has quite sunk in yet with some people.

ObamaCare is now going to go into full effect. It's a done deal as of last night.

Allow yourself some time to let that settle in.

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I don't think they "get it" yet. We need to wait until one of their mother's or father's gets deathly ill and needs meds, THEN we'll get an honest reaction. Right now they are still sleepwalking from the Obama selection last night.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The spokesmen for the Republican congress have already said they will not entertain any proposal which allows the Bush tax cuts to expire. These are the people who put the 2011 expiration date in the plan to begin with.

If the Republican party doesn't begin to gather it's shit it will become extinct. All anyone has to do is look at tax rates on this chart to see that when the wealthy do their part the middle class is healthier and the debt is less. Pay particular attention to the rates just before the great depression:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

I've already informed my congressman that if he votes for ANY tax increase I'll do my part to make sure that he's not elected in two years. I'm not paying for the governments gross irresponsibilities anymore. You can send your check in though.

 

[Dick Tuck]

I thought the Bush tax cuts automatically expire
What are Republicans offering to save them?

They were supposed to, and they will if nothing is done by January. But, that's what you guys wanted, so there should be no interest on the left in 'saving' them, the right has nothing to lose any longer so should let them expire. Repeal them and see what happens.

Obama has offered, and continues to offer, keeping the majority of the cuts in place. It's the Republicans who refuse to budge on the top rates. They're willing to screw 95% of the people to show their purity. If the cuts expire, it's not Obama's fault. He tried to negotiate.

 

[Photonic]

The spokesmen for the Republican congress have already said they will not entertain any proposal which allows the Bush tax cuts to expire. These are the people who put the 2011 expiration date in the plan to begin with.

If the Republican party doesn't begin to gather it's shit it will become extinct. All anyone has to do is look at tax rates on this chart to see that when the wealthy do their part the middle class is healthier and the debt is less. Pay particular attention to the rates just before the great depression:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

I've already informed my congressman that if he votes for ANY tax increase I'll do my part to make sure that he's not elected in two years. I'm not paying for the governments gross irresponsibilities anymore. You can send your check in though.

"I hate Obama because he never makes any concessions with the republicans."

Oh the irony. It burns so much.

 

[4Horsemen]

Exactly.. The left says higher taxes are needed to right the ship so they should help pay them.

Please by all means give just ONE example of ANY Democrat that has whined about paying higher taxes ."IF" they do expire,I will be ask to pay a whomping 3% more,that will really affect my lifestyle [sic].

That equates to 200 - 500 per month for a middle class family, it's going to hurt big time for most people. We know you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself, you didn't have to clarify it.


Add in energy prices going up, food going up, gas going up, a lot of people are going to be in deep trouble when those cuts expire.

And I just caught the 'if', why 'if'??? You guys have been screaming for years about these tax cuts, why are you afraid to let them expire now??

Because they know they stepped in some shit but fail to admit it.

I can't wait to see all the poor sappy Obamabots crying in the streets because their taxes are so high and still going up. I'll just open my window and say....

BLAME OBAMA YOU FUCKWADS AND GET OUTTA MY YARD...LOL

 

[mudwhistle]

The spokesmen for the Republican congress have already said they will not entertain any proposal which allows the Bush tax cuts to expire. These are the people who put the 2011 expiration date in the plan to begin with.

If the Republican party doesn't begin to gather it's shit it will become extinct. All anyone has to do is look at tax rates on this chart to see that when the wealthy do their part the middle class is healthier and the debt is less. Pay particular attention to the rates just before the great depression:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

That was then. This is now. When the time was fixed to let them expire, it was thought that the economy would be much better and we would not be in the middle of a recession.

The recession changes the rules. We do NOT need for the cuts to expire.

We need for OBAMACARE to be repealed!

Repealing Obamacare would cost the american taxpayers another 280 billion, thanks for showing your true colors.

How's that???

Cutting spending will cost us more?

Sounds logical.

 

[Fang]

I hope the GOP DOES NOT allow the Bush tax cuts to expire. I don't want to give my money to a government that has yet to prove they know how to manage a budget. My tax dollars and everyone else's is wasted year after year.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

The spokesmen for the Republican congress have already said they will not entertain any proposal which allows the Bush tax cuts to expire. These are the people who put the 2011 expiration date in the plan to begin with.

If the Republican party doesn't begin to gather it's shit it will become extinct. All anyone has to do is look at tax rates on this chart to see that when the wealthy do their part the middle class is healthier and the debt is less. Pay particular attention to the rates just before the great depression:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

Here's the great thing, Obama holds all the cards. No legislation passes w/o his signature.


The BUSH tax cuts for > $500,000 need to go. Plus many loophole for super-rich.

Yes, dullard. We need to secure that 800 billion over 10 ten years in "revenue.

All will be saved!!!

 

[Photonic]

That was then. This is now. When the time was fixed to let them expire, it was thought that the economy would be much better and we would not be in the middle of a recession.

The recession changes the rules. We do NOT need for the cuts to expire.

We need for OBAMACARE to be repealed!

Repealing Obamacare would cost the american taxpayers another 280 billion, thanks for showing your true colors.

How's that???

Cutting spending will cost us more?

Sounds logical.

CBO | Letter to the Honorable John Boehner providing an estimate for H.R. 6079, the Repeal of Obamacare Act

It may seem counter-intuitive, but Obamacare does a lot more than simply spend money.

Also, it seems it's actually 109 billion dollars. Still a hell of a lot to account for.

 

[Newby]

I thought the Bush tax cuts automatically expire
What are Republicans offering to save them?

They were supposed to, and they will if nothing is done by January. But, that's what you guys wanted, so there should be no interest on the left in 'saving' them, the right has nothing to lose any longer so should let them expire. Repeal them and see what happens.

Obama has offered, and continues to offer, keeping the majority of the cuts in place. It's the Republicans who refuse to budge on the top rates. They're willing to screw 95% of the people to show their purity. If the cuts expire, it's not Obama's fault. He tried to negotiate.

But, but, but... the left has screamed for years that the tax cuts were only for the rich!! They've said so ad nauseum for years... You mean you're finally willing to admit that they weren't???

 

[Katzndogz]

obamacare is all about killing the undesirables meaning the elderly and very young. Since abortion is safer than a pregnancy to term, abortion figures prominently in the new healthcare. Save your life, kill your kid.

Let the country go off the fiscal cliff, it will do us good.