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I hope the GOP DOES NOT allow the Bush tax cuts to expire. I don't want to give my money to a government that has yet to prove they know how to manage a budget. My tax dollars and everyone else's is wasted year after year.
Please by all means give just ONE example of ANY Democrat that has whined about paying higher taxes ."IF" they do expire,I will be ask to pay a whomping 3% more,that will really affect my lifestyle [sic].
That equates to 200 - 500 per month for a middle class family, it's going to hurt big time for most people. We know you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself, you didn't have to clarify it.
Add in energy prices going up, food going up, gas going up, a lot of people are going to be in deep trouble when those cuts expire.
And I just caught the 'if', why 'if'??? You guys have been screaming for years about these tax cuts, why are you afraid to let them expire now??
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Let the tax cuts expire for everyone. Then watch the economy take off like a rocket. NOT
Barry has his second term and he doesn't need anyones vote and he could give a rats ass.
His second term will be very interesting. I just hope we poor working slobs can survive it.
obamacare is all about killing the undesirables meaning the elderly and very young. Since abortion is safer than a pregnancy to term, abortion figures prominently in the new healthcare. Save your life, kill your kid.
Let the country go off the fiscal cliff, it will do us good.
obamacare is all about killing the undesirables meaning the elderly and very young. Since abortion is safer than a pregnancy to term, abortion figures prominently in the new healthcare. Save your life, kill your kid.
Let the country go off the fiscal cliff, it will do us good.
Your post just won "The best fucking bullshit ever " award.You should be SOOOOOOO proud.
That equates to 200 - 500 per month for a middle class family, it's going to hurt big time for most people. We know you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself, you didn't have to clarify it.
Add in energy prices going up, food going up, gas going up, a lot of people are going to be in deep trouble when those cuts expire.
And I just caught the 'if', why 'if'??? You guys have been screaming for years about these tax cuts, why are you afraid to let them expire now??
FACT-"IF" they expire the average family making 70,000 or MORE will see an average of 67.00 more in taxes per month. FACT
Care to link that? By your own 3% standard, it's $175 per month. That means a two income family with each income being $70,000 will pay $350 more per month in taxes.
If tax cuts expire, most of us will feel big pinch - DailyHerald.com
WASHINGTON A typical middle-income family making $40,000 to $64,000 a year could see its taxes go up by $2,000 next year if lawmakers fail to renew a lengthy roster of tax cuts set to expire at the end of the year, according to a new report Monday.
Taxpayers across the income spectrum would be hit with large tax hikes, the Tax Policy Center said in its study, with households in the top 1 percent income range seeing an average tax increase of more than $120,000, while a family making between $110,000 to $140,000 could see a tax hike in the $6,000 range.
$110,000 a year, that's two $55,000 incomes, very middle class and describing a majority of households. That's $500 a month, you think the average family can take a $500 per month pay cut and not notice it??? You're out of your mind.
That was then. This is now. When the time was fixed to let them expire, it was thought that the economy would be much better and we would not be in the middle of a recession.The spokesmen for the Republican congress have already said they will not entertain any proposal which allows the Bush tax cuts to expire. These are the people who put the 2011 expiration date in the plan to begin with.
If the Republican party doesn't begin to gather it's shit it will become extinct. All anyone has to do is look at tax rates on this chart to see that when the wealthy do their part the middle class is healthier and the debt is less. Pay particular attention to the rates just before the great depression:
Total U S Debt
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
The recession changes the rules. We do NOT need for the cuts to expire.
We need for OBAMACARE to be repealed!
Exactly.. The left says higher taxes are needed to right the ship so they should help pay them.
Please by all means give just ONE example of ANY Democrat that has whined about paying higher taxes ."IF" they do expire,I will be ask to pay a whomping 3% more,that will really affect my lifestyle [sic].
That equates to 200 - 500 per month for a middle class family, it's going to hurt big time for most people. We know you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself, you didn't have to clarify it.
Add in energy prices going up, food going up, gas going up, a lot of people are going to be in deep trouble when those cuts expire.
And I just caught the 'if', why 'if'??? You guys have been screaming for years about these tax cuts, why are you afraid to let them expire now??
The spokesmen for the Republican congress have already said they will not entertain any proposal which allows the Bush tax cuts to expire. These are the people who put the 2011 expiration date in the plan to begin with.
If the Republican party doesn't begin to gather it's shit it will become extinct. All anyone has to do is look at tax rates on this chart to see that when the wealthy do their part the middle class is healthier and the debt is less. Pay particular attention to the rates just before the great depression:
Total U S Debt
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
I've already informed my congressman that if he votes for ANY tax increase I'll do my part to make sure that he's not elected in two years. I'm not paying for the governments gross irresponsibilities anymore. You can send your check in though.
"I hate Obama because he never makes any concessions with the republicans."
Oh the irony. It burns so much.
FACT-"IF" they expire the average family making 70,000 or MORE will see an average of 67.00 more in taxes per month. FACT
Care to link that? By your own 3% standard, it's $175 per month. That means a two income family with each income being $70,000 will pay $350 more per month in taxes.
If tax cuts expire, most of us will feel big pinch - DailyHerald.com
WASHINGTON — A typical middle-income family making $40,000 to $64,000 a year could see its taxes go up by $2,000 next year if lawmakers fail to renew a lengthy roster of tax cuts set to expire at the end of the year, according to a new report Monday.
Taxpayers across the income spectrum would be hit with large tax hikes, the Tax Policy Center said in its study, with households in the top 1 percent income range seeing an average tax increase of more than $120,000, while a family making between $110,000 to $140,000 could see a tax hike in the $6,000 range.
$110,000 a year, that's two $55,000 incomes, very middle class and describing a majority of households. That's $500 a month, you think the average family can take a $500 per month pay cut and not notice it??? You're out of your mind.
Bump for mutts, guess he missed this.
The spokesmen for the Republican congress have already said they will not entertain any proposal which allows the Bush tax cuts to expire. These are the people who put the 2011 expiration date in the plan to begin with.
If the Republican party doesn't begin to gather it's shit it will become extinct. All anyone has to do is look at tax rates on this chart to see that when the wealthy do their part the middle class is healthier and the debt is less. Pay particular attention to the rates just before the great depression:
Total U S Debt
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
Here's the great thing, Obama holds all the cards. No legislation passes w/o his signature.
The BUSH tax cuts for > $500,000 need to go. Plus many loophole for super-rich.
They are the same cards he's been holding for the past two years...
How that changes the math on tax cuts mystifies me. Taxing the rich was a great "election strategy" message. The problem that Barry now faces is that "message" might have gotten him re-elected but that doesn't mean it will work in the real world because it will slow an already anemic economy.
I thought the Bush tax cuts automatically expire
What are Republicans offering to save them?
They were supposed to, and they will if nothing is done by January. But, that's what you guys wanted, so there should be no interest on the left in 'saving' them, the right has nothing to lose any longer so should let them expire. Repeal them and see what happens.
Obama has offered, and continues to offer, keeping the majority of the cuts in place. It's the Republicans who refuse to budge on the top rates. They're willing to screw 95% of the people to show their purity. If the cuts expire, it's not Obama's fault. He tried to negotiate.
Here's the great thing, Obama holds all the cards. No legislation passes w/o his signature.
The BUSH tax cuts for > $500,000 need to go. Plus many loophole for super-rich.
They are the same cards he's been holding for the past two years...
How that changes the math on tax cuts mystifies me. Taxing the rich was a great "election strategy" message. The problem that Barry now faces is that "message" might have gotten him re-elected but that doesn't mean it will work in the real world because it will slow an already anemic economy.
I'll tell you what's going to happen. Mitch McConnel, John Boehnor and company are going to screw around and find out that Romney isn't the only one who's been terminated from politics. They also have to be re elected. Blacks, Hispanics, Gays, Women, the young, social security and welfare recipients etc. vote in those elections too. Can you say, "Part Of The 47%?"
They were supposed to, and they will if nothing is done by January. But, that's what you guys wanted, so there should be no interest on the left in 'saving' them, the right has nothing to lose any longer so should let them expire. Repeal them and see what happens.
Obama has offered, and continues to offer, keeping the majority of the cuts in place. It's the Republicans who refuse to budge on the top rates. They're willing to screw 95% of the people to show their purity. If the cuts expire, it's not Obama's fault. He tried to negotiate.
Wake up and smell the coffee, Dick...
Obama promised that he'd only raise taxes on "millionaires and billionaires" but the truth is that he could take EVERY thin dime those folks make and it still wouldn't come close to paying for all of the entitlements we're now obligated for. Obama just pissed on your head and told you it was rain.
Care to link that? By your own 3% standard, it's $175 per month. That means a two income family with each income being $70,000 will pay $350 more per month in taxes.
If tax cuts expire, most of us will feel big pinch - DailyHerald.com
$110,000 a year, that's two $55,000 incomes, very middle class and describing a majority of households. That's $500 a month, you think the average family can take a $500 per month pay cut and not notice it??? You're out of your mind.
Bump for mutts, guess he missed this.
Newby, this is the ignorance on display that we'll be dealing with for the next four years and longer as the suckling continues or at least until the tit dries up.
We have a commander in chief who has lost the confidence of the military and the markets and who is also Hell bent on surrendering America to Islam. Why are you worrying about money?
We lost ground in retaking the Senate instead of gaining it, the Supreme Court does not have the temerity to stand up to this lawless and lawbreaking president. There are few options left for succor and relief from the arrogant rule by this abomination. One is by lone wolf and one more, today, in contrast to 1861, the man operating the forging press stamping out the bayonet blanks or machining the rifle barrels, clips and triggers is more likely to be found in the South whereas the man of the North in Detroit is more likely to be found waiting in line for his Obamabucks and presenting a highly stationary target, except when he's giving his 'whoes' their orders or dealing in cocoa leaf derivative.
That completely explains why a majority of the military vote was for Obama!
We have a commander in chief who has lost the confidence of the military and the markets and who is also Hell bent on surrendering America to Islam. Why are you worrying about money?
We lost ground in retaking the Senate instead of gaining it, the Supreme Court does not have the temerity to stand up to this lawless and lawbreaking president. There are few options left for succor and relief from the arrogant rule by this abomination. One is by lone wolf and one more, today, in contrast to 1861, the man operating the forging press stamping out the bayonet blanks or machining the rifle barrels, clips and triggers is more likely to be found in the South whereas the man of the North in Detroit is more likely to be found waiting in line for his Obamabucks and presenting a highly stationary target, except when he's giving his 'whoes' their orders or dealing in cocoa leaf derivative.
That completely explains why a majority of the military vote was for Obama!
Don't be fucking ignorant, idiot! The majority of the military vote hasn't even been COUNTED because DoD under O'Blamer totally disenfranchised our overseas troops.
You don't get out much, do you?
Obama has offered, and continues to offer, keeping the majority of the cuts in place. It's the Republicans who refuse to budge on the top rates. They're willing to screw 95% of the people to show their purity. If the cuts expire, it's not Obama's fault. He tried to negotiate.
Wake up and smell the coffee, Dick...
Obama promised that he'd only raise taxes on "millionaires and billionaires" but the truth is that he could take EVERY thin dime those folks make and it still wouldn't come close to paying for all of the entitlements we're now obligated for. Obama just pissed on your head and told you it was rain.
You have a set of balls to talk about soembody getting pissed on. I was mid career when Reagan's Trickle Down began. A millionaire got enough from the new tax program to buy a Mercedes and middle America got enough to pay for the muffler on it. I mean this fact and others were shown on television. Reagan and Bush41 quadrupled the national debt while reducing tax rates for the wealthiest among us. It's not rocket science if you can read:
Total U S Debt
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
I thought the Bush tax cuts automatically expire
What are Republicans offering to save them?
They were supposed to, and they will if nothing is done by January. But, that's what you guys wanted, so there should be no interest on the left in 'saving' them, the right has nothing to lose any longer so should let them expire. Repeal them and see what happens.
Obama has offered, and continues to offer, keeping the majority of the cuts in place. It's the Republicans who refuse to budge on the top rates. They're willing to screw 95% of the people to show their purity. If the cuts expire, it's not Obama's fault. He tried to negotiate.
Obama has offered, and continues to offer, keeping the majority of the cuts in place. It's the Republicans who refuse to budge on the top rates. They're willing to screw 95% of the people to show their purity. If the cuts expire, it's not Obama's fault. He tried to negotiate.
Wake up and smell the coffee, Dick...
Obama promised that he'd only raise taxes on "millionaires and billionaires" but the truth is that he could take EVERY thin dime those folks make and it still wouldn't come close to paying for all of the entitlements we're now obligated for. Obama just pissed on your head and told you it was rain.
You have a set of balls to talk about soembody getting pissed on. I was mid career when Reagan's Trickle Down began. A millionaire got enough from the new tax program to buy a Mercedes and middle America got enough to pay for the muffler on it. I mean this fact and others were shown on television. Reagan and Bush41 quadrupled the national debt while reducing tax rates for the wealthiest among us. It's not rocket science if you can read:
Total U S Debt
09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)
09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)
09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)
09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)
09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)
09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32
09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)
09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00
09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)
09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
That completely explains why a majority of the military vote was for Obama!
Don't be fucking ignorant, idiot! The majority of the military vote hasn't even been COUNTED because DoD under O'Blamer totally disenfranchised our overseas troops.
You don't get out much, do you?
What tickles the shit out of me is that Florida made it a point to be positioned to phuck the Democrats again and it turned out that we didn't even need their right wing asses.
