Stu Varney of Fox News Upset About Interest On The National Debt

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The guy was ranting about Obamas's Interest payments alone coming to $10 billion a week. He didn't bother to mention that Oct. 1, 2009 when Obama's first budget period became official that the interest on the Reagan-Bushes debt was $450 billion a year. When Dick Cheney attended George W. Bush's first cabinet meeting he said, "The Debt Doesn't Matter, Reagan Proved That!"

The debt might not matter unless those to who we owe the money demand payment but the interest has to be paid or we go into default. Republicans talk out of both sides of their mouthes. What else is new............
 
Since Ronnie hasn't been president since the 80s (and oh btw he's dead now) it doesn't make a lot of sense to get all upset about old interest rates on the debt.

How about we deal with the present even if it means placing the responsibility for doing something about our unsustainable debt on the current president and not the past ones?

Isn't it you dimwitcraps who always accuse repugnantcans of wanting to live in the past?
 
Umm the debt was under 1 trillion when Reagan was president and the debt pretty much doubled under Reagans rule.
And how many times was the debt ceiling raised then?
18 times for those with selective memories.
And yet those same ones consider him a great president?
 
Since Ronnie hasn't been president since the 80s (and oh btw he's dead now) it doesn't make a lot of sense to get all upset about old interest rates on the debt.

How about we deal with the present even if it means placing the responsibility for doing something about our unsustainable debt on the current president and not the past ones?

Isn't it you dimwitcraps who always accuse repugnantcans of wanting to live in the past?

Umm wanting things not to change is a basic part of conservatism.
 
Umm the debt was under 1 trillion when Reagan was president and the debt pretty much doubled under Reagans rule.
And how many times was the debt ceiling raised then?
18 times for those with selective memories.
And yet those same ones consider him a great president?

Ronnie was a big government guy even though he pretended not to be but i would think big government people like dimwitcraps would like that about him
 
Umm the debt was under 1 trillion when Reagan was president and the debt pretty much doubled under Reagans rule.
And how many times was the debt ceiling raised then?
18 times for those with selective memories.
And yet those same ones consider him a great president?

Ronnie was a big government guy even though he pretended not to be but i would think big government people like dimwitcraps would like that about him

Facts show that the republicans of recent decades were/are for big government.
Therefore the left has to be against it :D
 
Isn't it funny how electing the black guy brought the deficit hawks out in typical, hypocritical fashion. The Hannity's and Limpballs of the world weren't saying a THING about Bush's deficits. They didn't care a fig about unpaid for wars, unpaid for Medicare Part D, unpaid for tax cuts. Now even disaster relief has to be "paid for"? Puhleese.
 
Isn't it funny how electing the black guy brought the deficit hawks out in typical, hypocritical fashion. The Hannity's and Limpballs of the world weren't saying a THING about Bush's deficits. They didn't care a fig about unpaid for wars, unpaid for Medicare Part D, unpaid for tax cuts. Now even disaster relief has to be "paid for"? Puhleese.

I'll be glad when that Black guy is gone so we don't have to hear and have this thrown in our faces anymore.
 
Since Ronnie hasn't been president since the 80s (and oh btw he's dead now) it doesn't make a lot of sense to get all upset about old interest rates on the debt.

How about we deal with the present even if it means placing the responsibility for doing something about our unsustainable debt on the current president and not the past ones?

Isn't it you dimwitcraps who always accuse repugnantcans of wanting to live in the past?

Each figure here can be easily verified. The Republicans are the ones who cut taxes over and over and borrowed from foreign banks to cover the shortfall:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00
 
Isn't it funny how electing the black guy brought the deficit hawks out in typical, hypocritical fashion. The Hannity's and Limpballs of the world weren't saying a THING about Bush's deficits. They didn't care a fig about unpaid for wars, unpaid for Medicare Part D, unpaid for tax cuts. Now even disaster relief has to be "paid for"? Puhleese.

I'll be glad when that Black guy is gone so we don't have to hear and have this thrown in our faces anymore.

Rest easy, you only have to wait four more years.
 
Isn't it funny how electing the black guy brought the deficit hawks out in typical, hypocritical fashion. The Hannity's and Limpballs of the world weren't saying a THING about Bush's deficits. They didn't care a fig about unpaid for wars, unpaid for Medicare Part D, unpaid for tax cuts. Now even disaster relief has to be "paid for"? Puhleese.

I'll be glad when that Black guy is gone so we don't have to hear and have this thrown in our faces anymore.

Rest easy, you only have to wait four more years.

We'll see, I'm sure many people are sick to death of hearing about this mans skin color and being accused of being a racist when they don't agree with the idiot in Chief. You Obamabots could of sold him down the river just for that.
 
I'll be glad when that Black guy is gone so we don't have to hear and have this thrown in our faces anymore.


Not likely. Every time you Rethugs have been able to get a person elected President, they manage to borrow and spend our way to greater deficits. Not likely to change this time around. I mean if you get Santorum elected, how you going to pay for the war in Iran?

Let me help with the answer; borrow the money from China just like George Bush did for his wars. I mean it worked so well.

And the Dems will get to keep calling you Rethugs hypocrits.
 
Since Ronnie hasn't been president since the 80s (and oh btw he's dead now) it doesn't make a lot of sense to get all upset about old interest rates on the debt.

How about we deal with the present even if it means placing the responsibility for doing something about our unsustainable debt on the current president and not the past ones?

Isn't it you dimwitcraps who always accuse repugnantcans of wanting to live in the past?

Each figure here can be easily verified. The Republicans are the ones who cut taxes over and over and borrowed from foreign banks to cover the shortfall:

Total U S Debt


09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75(80% Of All Debt Across 232 Years Borrowed By Reagan And Bushes)

09/30/2008 $10,024,724,896,912.49(Times Square Debt Clock Modified To Accomodate Tens of Trillions)

09/30/2007 $9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 $8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 $7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32

09/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62(Second Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16

09/30/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06(First Bush Tax Cuts Enacted Using Reconciliation)


09/30/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86(Administration And Congress Arguing About How To Use Surplus)

09/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43(First Surplus Generated...On Track To Pay Off Debt By 2012)

09/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62
09/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34
09/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73
09/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39
09/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32

09/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38(Debt Quadrupled By Reagan/Bush41)

09/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66
09/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03
09/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25
09/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32
09/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16
09/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
09/30/1986 $2,125,302,616,658.42
09/30/1985 $1,823,103,000,000.00
09/30/1984 $1,572,266,000,000.00
09/30/1983 $1,377,210,000,000.00

09/30/1982 $1,142,034,000,000.00(Total Debt Passes $1 Trillion)

09/30/1981 $997,855,000,000.00

I've said over and over again that there really is no difference between dimwitcraps and repugnantcans.

And living in the past is not solving our problems now is it?
 
And living in the past is not solving our problems now is it?

While it may not solve them (problems), it does make sense to study the mistakes/problems of the past and try and keep from repeating them.
 
And living in the past is not solving our problems now is it?

While it may not solve them (problems), it does make sense to study the mistakes/problems of the past and try and keep from repeating them.

We have no interest in solving the problems of the past because we keep electing the same idiots with the same ideology that got us where we are today.
 
where were all these "fiscally responsible" people during the last 50 years. partisan politics really pisses me off.
 
We have no interest in solving the problems of the past because we keep electing the same idiots with the same ideology that got us where we are today.


I was actually thinking that people might learn from past mistakes and use that knowledge to solve problems of the present. I do this on a regular basis. Seems to work. Like the old saying goes;
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
I am not insane....yet. But I am old.
 
where were all these "fiscally responsible" people during the last 50 years.

Talking about "trickle down" and "deficits don't matter" and "no evidence that cutting the tax rate changes the amount of income" and "lower tax rates for the job creators and jobs will come"
and other such nonsense.

The Bull Shit above is what constitutes the economic policy of the Rethug party. Fiscally Responsible only applies when a Democrat is in the WH.
 
I'll be glad when that Black guy is gone so we don't have to hear and have this thrown in our faces anymore.

Rest easy, you only have to wait four more years.

We'll see, I'm sure many people are sick to death of hearing about this mans skin color and being accused of being a racist when they don't agree with the idiot in Chief. You Obamabots could of sold him down the river just for that.

We weren't talking about disagreeing with policies, we were talking about the deficit hawks that didn't come pouring out of the woodwork until President Obama got in office. They never once said a peep on Fox "news" about Bush's spending or EVER mention Reagan's spending. Nope, it's only Obama's spending that have their panties in a wad. Funny that...
 

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