Stop whining about making less money you fools

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  1. Grampa Murked U
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    I have lowered our labor rates substantially in order to keep help on and maintain a constant work flow. I have also asked my help to take less pay on certain jobs where deeper discounts were given in order to secure future work.

    That as opposed to the liberal mentaliry that I "deserve" my wage thus insuring if work is slow I will have none at all.

    This entire country is going through a severe crunch and to simply expect the wealthy to bare the burden is obsurd. My help is not whining. They are thankful that they are able to stay off the ue line and know that when things turn around they can once again prosper. Your calls for shared sacrifice are a joke when the only ones sharing are the job creators.
     
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    Did you lower your own pay by the same percentage?
     
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    My profit margin has shrunk quite a bit yes. In order to maintain the same profits I would have to lay off most of my help.
     
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    I don't mean your profit margins. I mean the amount you pay to yourself. Did you, personally, give up as much as you asked your employees to?
     
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    We'd all be a lot better off if we made a lot less.
     
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    Why should he?
     
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    On certain jobs they make less. Those jobs are rare but do happen on occasion. My personal pay fluctuates regularly depending on the type of work we are engaged in.

    On the flipside there were many jobs this summer where I asked them to work nights or weekends and I split the profits with those who took the work.

    I'm fair to the best of my ability but that's really not the point. The "I want what I'm owed" mentality is killing us.
     
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    If we get back to boom times again do you intend to give back for that sacrifice? It's a fair question because wages have stagnated during boom and bust cycles for thirty years and somehow I do not see a spirit of shared sacrifice in the boardrooms of America just as there has not been a willingness to share prosperity. I am guessing you run a small business, which is fine, but you have to look your "help" in the eye when you ask for sacrifice and show you share that, which is commendable and usually accepted with grace, but that is not like the much more common practice in big business of the board voting themselves raises while simply snatching back wages and benefits with little comment.
     
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    Pointless troll
     
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    Before the crash my help was paid more than most in my business. I've had the same lead carpenter for 14 years now. He left a few months before the crash saying he was burned out. 5 months later he returned hat in hand and I gladly took him back.

    In short yes, pay scales are determined by the amount of work available. And bonuses are abundant during good times.
     

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