Stop telling Teachers to Confiscate Kids' Cell Phones/Electronics. It is a dangerous and ineffective practice

[Captain Caveman]

No, you are a foreigner chiming in on something with which you are unfamiliar. That is something requiring no proof.

No, you are brought up on Hollywood and Disney, hence no knowledge beyond your borders. Hence the phrase, "Thick as fuck".

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No, you are brought up on Hollywood and Disney, hence no knowledge beyond your borders. Hence the phrase, "Thick as fuck".

I was not raised on Hollywood and Disney except for when they were wholesome American institutions. The only person "Thick as fuck" would be you because you are not American, and commenting as you know anything about our laws and culture.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Woodznutz]

I read a great story once about a smart-mouth kid goading an adult at a school dance. The kid was hoping the guy would take a swing at him so he would get into trouble with the school and the law. But instead of punching the kid the guy poured a pitcher of punch over his head. The confrontation ended with the kid leaving the dance with his clothing soaked and his tail 'tween his legs.

 

[SweetSue92]

No, you are a foreigner chiming in on something with which you are unfamiliar. That is something requiring no proof.

Too many of those here IMO

 

[SweetSue92]

I read a great story once about a smart-mouth kid goading an adult at a school dance. The kid was hoping the guy would take a swing at him so he would get into trouble with the school and the law. But instead of punching the kid the guy poured a pitcher of punch over his head. The confrontation ended with the kid leaving the dance with his clothing soaked and his tail 'tween his legs.

In 2023 the adult would still lose his job AND be jailed for this. Believe that.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

It shows a huge portion of young Americans Have a problem.

The Instagram/TikTok generation has massive problems. Not just perhaps being unwilling to listen to teachers.

But also dating and social life . And this also goes for Americans under the age of 30. We’ve all seen the statistics …. Young men and young boys in massive numbers are not interested in dating women and that is going to have a profoundly negative affect on American society and that something is done about it.

We had school dances for a reason…. things like the prom or the fall dance or a CYO dance.. They are there for a reason.

the last thing we need is to have mentors, teachers and adults telling children or young men and women that is completely fine to be staring at your phone all day, and to effectively say it’s fine to treat your phone like a significant other.

Time for major action to be taken in this country. More young people need to be outside. Breathing air, meeting real people, getting off the computer, getting off the cell phone. Time for more kids to Get involved in sports and outdoor activities.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

It is the upmost importance for kids to have a social life.

Youth Sports Are More Important Than Ever for Kids' Mental Health

Youth sports participation has mitigated the pandemic’s harmful effects on kids’ physical and mental health.

globalsportmatters.com

The last thing we would want is for a far left BLM Biden supporter to be a teacher and to be instilling their ideas into kids’ heads.

 

[Woodznutz]

It shows a huge portion of young Americans Have a problem.

The Instagram/TikTok generation has massive problems. Not just perhaps being unwilling to listen to teachers.

But also dating and social life . And this also goes for Americans under the age of 30. We’ve all seen the statistics …. Young men and young boys in massive numbers are not interested in dating women and that is going to have a profoundly negative affect on American society and that something is done about it.

We had school dances for a reason…. things like the prom or the fall dance or a CYO dance.. They are there for a reason.

the last thing we need is to have mentors, teachers and adults telling children or young men and women that is completely fine to be staring at your phone all day, and to effectively say it’s fine to treat your phone like a significant other.

Time for major action to be taken in this country. More young people need to be outside. Breathing air, meeting real people, getting off the computer, getting off the cell phone. Time for more kids to Get involved in sports and outdoor activities.

Or to a church that preaches from the Bible.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

Or to a church that preaches from the Bible.

Expand on that one partner

 

[ScorpioRising007]

Obviously, a student will learn more if they are not on their phone. Phones will hinder a child's education much more so than being out of dress code for example. But it has led to violence, and someday may lead to a shooting.

Houston student punches teacher in the head to get cell phone back

A Houston high school student, 15, was seen aggressively punching a teacher in the head while demanding to get his cell phone back in a horrifying video that has gone viral.

www.dailymail.co.uk

'She Deserved Every Part of That Lesson': Student Takes Swing at Substitute Teacher After Her Phone Is Confiscated, Leading to Fight, Police Investigation

Police in Rocky Mount, North Carolina, and Nash County Public Schools are investigating a fight over a cellphone between a substitute teacher and a

atlantablackstar.com

15-Year-Old Girl Sentenced to Year in Detention Facility for Brutal Attack on High School Teacher

The beating of Tiwana Turner was caught on video, and the teacher is still recovering from injuries that left her in the hospital for six days

people.com

I would get mad if someone took my cell phone from me and I'm a 61 year old man who never had a cell phone until I was nearly fifty. Imagine the reaction of a 14 year old who has been addicted emotionally to having their phone since age 9.

In my school, the principal has strongly emphasized that student keep cell phones turned off and in their backpacks after the first bell rings, even if they are still eating breakfast. Teachers are to take away any phone they spot in student's hand, pocket or anywhere besides backpack (we don't use lockers). At our meetings prior to the school year started, when this came up, some teachers said, "it needs to be all of us doing it," because they don't want to be perceived as the mean ones.

Confiscated cell phones are held in the office for parents to pick up, which for some kids is no problem, but for some kids it can be a huge problem. So the consequences are not equal for all students.

A much better strategy is to tell the child to put the phone in their backpack, which brings them into compliance. It is rare for a student to not comply with that request. But telling the student to hand over the phone meets resistance the majority of the time.

If a student refuses to put the phone in the backpack, write a discipline slip and send him or her to the office. If the student refuses to go, send the slip with another student and a note that the student refused to leave. Then the admins can decide what to do from there, including getting assistance from the school resource officer.

When I was a subsitute teacher and paraprofessional we would confiscate phones all the time from kids and just say "come back at the end of class and you can have your phone back". I really didn't see any harm in this and still don't. Sometimes the principle would hold onto the phone to the end of the day and the student would have to get the phone from the principle.

 

[Woodznutz]

Expand on that one partner

The Bible contains the missing dimension in knowledge. No education is complete without it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If they are on their phone just send them to the office put them down as absent after a couple of warnings (depending on their age)

What good will that do?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Cell phones in the hands of immature children are nothing but trouble in the classroom. Teachers have one and only one job to do, and they have to do it with 20-50 kids in the classroom or gymnasium. They are strapped with getting children ready for adult working lives, and catering to every kid's obnoxious use of electronic devices instead of learning from a live person talking to them about subject matters such as literature, retention of information that comes from reading a chapter or an entire book; retention of verbal information, retention of how to add, subtract, divide, and multiply to achieve a mathematical product accurately, so that they will understand the difference between logic and guessing games in order to make a correct answer to problems that come up in adult life, how to plan a successful life, and to understand how to deal with people according to their age from infancy, to toddlerhood, acceptance of authority of a good teacher, sharing with others while providing for one's own personal need for food, exercise both mental and physical properties of life, doing good for others, self-defense, and honor for one's elders. With all these responsibilities, I can see the teacher's perspective on trying to get children trained to listen to their lectures, and writing down assignments to prepare themselves for tomorrow's lessons without a lot of attention directed elsewhere that causes students around them to become more interested in extraneous noises and visuals than subject matter that doesn't seem to satisfy their minds until the test day of accounting in order to give the teacher a perspective of the child's success at learning information he may or may not be tuned into. Cell phones are cacophony compared to listening to a lecture on how to determine what is the best way to solve a problem using memory rather than carrying around a library of mumbo-jumbo opinions of one's peers, who may be failing at understanding facts and set their sights on getting away from learning that could assist them in their future adulthood of knowing that A square plus B square equals C square to determine issues in everything from building construction to cutting fabric for a pieced quilt to make an affordable blanket for future children, large and small, young and younger, and replacing with a larger blanket when the child is 12 years old when exponential growth has taken place since the child was 12 weeks old or whenever the last small quilt was made that no longer serves to wrap the child from side to side and top to bottom tuck-in lengths and widths to accommodate the child's size. I know that sounds silly, but the Pathagorean theory works well in home construction as well as domestic challenges for do-it-yourselfers that helps people get good choices before them whether rich or poor. Teachers are charged with a lot of things their pupils need to know for future reference.

I don't know where the push for Marxist government is going to take us, I only know that Ike Eisenhower was made painfully aware that some government forms are incompatible with the freedom of speech that gave America an edge over most other countries in more Christian times to debate, deliberate, discover, diversify, define and deliver excellence in any given scientific or political discovery that benefits the best for the most in reality. His years delivering Europe and the rest of the world from genocide in Europe and Kamakazi solutions in the Far East who cozied up to Hitler early on, causing a war that killed 85 million people, not to mention the 100 million people who died in China when the world's attention was directed to Germany and their fellow fascists in Japan, and no attention whatsoever to the Chinese people's mass murders of people who didn't like Mao Zedong, a Socio/Communist dictator who ordered death to entire provinces for one word of criticism to Mao's cruelly bloodthirsty regime. Communism's only benefit is to the dictator and his trusted cronies is expedience in "getting things done" according to a person with dictatorial power who is willing to murder people who don't suck up to his orders that are not made by the governed that is blind to the society's betterment. Hitler hated Jews, and he used his dictatorship of the Thire Reich to "cleanse" Europe. Fortunately for America, Einstein and many of his other Jewish colleagues escaped to help us with superior weaponry that turned the war to Eisenhower's success in stopping Hitlerian mass murders sans trials other than Satanic hatred for God's First Family descended from Jacob's 12 sons. Japan was seriously the victims of nuclear war when The entire civil world was sick and tired of endless wars with fascists. It took a frightening weapon to convince the indoctrinated Japanese War Machine to knock it off. Truman came to the conclusion it had to be them or us, but I don't think he realized the horrifying consequences of nuclear warfare.

I think President Trump's attempts to bring about world peace through wise negotiations and strength is what America needed, and we will be fortunate if the current administration stops the border infiltration madness that will give enemies who hate personal freedoms a leg up on ruling the world. The American people were liking the idea of Trump's efforts to bring peace first to the Middle East to engender a policy that would work to placing both Jews and Muslims in an agreeable conclusion to their 5,000 year old antipathies. If I were a multibillionaire, I'd give half of it to President Trump's 2024 winning campaign in order to try again to get the job of world peace set to bring about 5,000 years of peace amongst mankind's diverse peoples. It's a win-win deal he will bring about if people give President Trump a chance without the belligerence we've experienced from planned false allegations and narratives that in no way resemble a caring for peace on earth by damaging half of the country's citizens of conservative approaches to fiscal responsibility. And I believe that every time the goofball left pushes another indictment Trump, they're headed for their own socio-communists' suicide. Eisenhower the wise pushed it back, but the Congress is scared that if they use the anticommunist act of 1954, they won't get elected due to the nature of politics. That's just my opinion, but I think that since socialism and communism have the same operating points, they're one and the same. One just sounds nicer than the 100 million people in china who decried Mao's communist system and lost their lives because of their criticism of the crazy system that imposes a fate worse than any monarchy ever did.

My two points are: (1) leave teachers alone who teach within the confines of teaching facts that will help children learn honest ways of making a living and benefitting their fellow man at the same time. And (2) Teachers, cut the sex education crap out entirely, and never again interfere with the parental jobs of teaching children to respect theirs and others' bodies with their Judeo/Christian goals of providing the responsible respect for the Bible's teachings on the traditional man and woman marriages and family values.

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