Status of human beings depend on whether you believe in God

[G.T.]

If you believed your arguments were sufficient then you wouldn’t need to attack me.

You can't separate two concepts, ding?

This is what I mean - you say the dumbest things literally ever.

I attack you because you have been and usually are...a twat.

You've even BRAGGED to people that you enjoy this role, who the fuck do you think you're fooling by playing non-cognitive with its results? Some days you try and be polite to folks, and other days you brag about your epic trolling and getting under skin and stuff, like being a twat is a badge of honor.

When you're fake and someone realizes it, it's a function of you being fake versus an average human's discernment. How come, do you think...you've had similar conflicts with so many people where they don't even take you seriously, and treat you like you're some twat? It's by magic?

Maybe, man!

My arguments are my arguments and have zero to do with how you're treated on the internet, ding.

 

[ding]

So we have established that inalienable rights are based upon absolute truth. Because otherwise those rights can change, and if those rights can change, then those rights can be removed, and if those rights can be removed then they do not meet the definition of inalienable which are rights which are unable to be taken away from or given away by the possessor without consent.

 

[ding]

Absolute truth is something that is true at all times and in all places. It is something that is always true no matter what the circumstances. It is a fact that cannot be changed.

For all things there is a final state of fact. This is also known as absolute truth or objective truth. It is also known to be reality and reality is known to be existence.

 

[G.T.]

So we have established that inalienable rights are based upon absolute truth. Because otherwise those rights can change, and if those rights can change, then those rights can be removed, and if those rights can be removed then they do not meet the definition of inalienable which are rights which are unable to be taken away from or given away by the possessor. without consent.

When you say "because," you're supposed to follow with the actual thing the rights are based on.

Do you notice what you said after "because?"

You argued from consequence.

That's a crutch when you don't have an actual because...

learn from your mistakes, ding. A consequence of something is not an argument for the existence of something else...

link:

Fallacies (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

 

[G.T.]

Absolute truth is something that is true at all times and in all places. It is something that is always true no matter what the circumstances. It is a fact that cannot be changed.

For all things there is a final state of fact. This is also known as absolute truth or objective truth. It is also known to be reality and reality is known to be existence.

That was full of tautologies and was utterly meaningless, as anyone over the age of 11 or 12 knows what truth means.

What you're doing when you make these slogan/declarations, is placing yourself on the dumbest of possible pedestals in that you imagine anyone needs to be taught these things because when YOU learned them, they were some sort of great revelation and totally relevant here.

It's like teaching a runner how to walk, in effect.

 

[bodecea]

If God exists, then each of us are eternal beings, with rights endowed by God, amongst these life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

If God doesn't exist, we are nothing more than sacks of meat, water and bones.

Interesting concept and definitely a two edged sword......that those who believe in their god mistreat those that don't agree. It's what religious people have done throughout history.......mistreat, enslave, and kill those of different religions AND especially those they see as not having religions at all.

 

[ding]

Once absolute truth (aka objective truth, aka reality, aka existence) is discovered it is known that it was always that way and will always be that way. Which means that absolute truth is eternal and unchanging.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

If God exists, then each of us are eternal beings, with rights endowed by God, amongst these life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

If God doesn't exist, we are nothing more than sacks of meat, water and bones.

The immune system is pre wired and designed to get help if they believe in a god

That’s a fact

Hope boosts the immune system and that proves we get fined with cancer if we don’t believe

 

[ding]

All religions teach that God is eternal and unchanging. Ergo God is absolute truth. Ergo God is reality. Ergo God is existence.

Which is exactly how ancient man described God. God is existence.

 

[ding]

Natural rights are rights granted to all people by nature or God that cannot be denied or restricted by any government or individual. Natural rights are often said to be granted to people by “natural law.” Legal rights are rights granted by governments or legal systems.

Natural law (Latin: ius naturale, lex naturalis) is law that is held to exist independently of the positive law of a given political order, society or nation-state. As determined by nature, the law of nature is implied to be objective and universal;[1] it exists independently of human understanding, and of the positive law of a given state, political order, legislature or society at large. Historically, natural law refers to the use of reason to analyze human nature to deduce binding rules of moral behavior from nature's or God's creation of reality and mankind.

The concept of natural law was documented in ancient Greek philosophy, including Aristotle,[2] and was referred to in Roman philosophy by Cicero. References to natural law are also found in the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, later expounded upon in the Middle Ages by Christian philosophers such as Albert the Great and Thomas Aquinas. The School of Salamanca made notable contributions during the Renaissance.

Modern natural law theories were greatly developed in the Age of Enlightenment, combining inspiration from Roman law with philosophies like social contract theory. It was used to challenge the divine right of kings, and became an alternative justification for the establishment of a social contract, positive law, and government—and thus legal rights—in the form of classical republicanism. Conversely, the concept of natural rights is used by others to challenge the legitimacy of all such establishments.[citation needed]

Contemporarily, the concept of natural law is closely related to the concept of natural rights. Indeed, many philosophers, jurists and scholars use natural law synonymously with natural rights (Latin: ius naturale), or natural justice.[3] while others distinguish between natural law and natural right.[1]

Because of the intersection between natural law and natural rights, natural law has been claimed or attributed as a key component in the Declaration of Independence (1776) of the United States, the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (1789) of France, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948) of the United Nations, as well as the European Convention on Human Rights (1953) of the Council of Europe.

Natural law - Wikipedia

 

[ding]

So...

If God exists, then we are creatures with inalienable rights.

If God doesn't exist, then we are creatures with no inalienable rights.

 

[ding]

Otherwise man has no standing or authority to overthrow tyrannical regimes.

 

[G.T.]

Otherwise man has no standing or authority to overthrow tyrannical regimes.

That is really stupid, and back to square one.

 

[ding]

Otherwise man has no standing or authority to overthrow tyrannical regimes.

That is really stupid, and back to square one.

And yet it was our stated authority to declare independence.

That we are granted unalienable rights because we are God’s creatures.

 

[G.T.]

Otherwise man has no standing or authority to overthrow tyrannical regimes.

That is really stupid, and back to square one.

And yet it was our stated authority to declare independence.

That we are granted unalienable rights because we are God’s creatures.

We can state whatever we want...that's just an ad-hoc assertion. Stating something doesn't make it the case, and they realized that they couldn't prove a deity which is why they canned a lot of the language in nature itself. You're not as bright as they were...in that regard.

 

[Syriusly]

If God exists, then each of us are eternal beings, with rights endowed by God, amongst these life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

If God doesn't exist, we are nothing more than sacks of meat, water and bones.

Or.....we could still be eternal beings with rights even without your god.

Or not.

I find it odd that you think that the only thing keeping you from slaughtering people like cattle is your belief in god.

 

[ding]

Otherwise man has no standing or authority to overthrow tyrannical regimes.

That is really stupid, and back to square one.

And yet it was our stated authority to declare independence.

That we are granted unalienable rights because we are God’s creatures.

We can state whatever we want...that's just an ad-hoc assertion. Stating something doesn't make it the case, and they realized that they couldn't prove a deity which is why they canned a lot of the language in nature itself. You're not as bright as they were...in that regard.

And yet they believed it.

 

[G.T.]

If God exists, then each of us are eternal beings, with rights endowed by God, amongst these life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

If God doesn't exist, we are nothing more than sacks of meat, water and bones.

Or.....we could still be eternal beings with rights even without your god.

Or not.

I find it odd that you think that the only thing keeping you from slaughtering people like cattle is your belief in god.

I don't believe the folks who assert that, it's super suspect of being a sociopath.

 

[Syriusly]

Otherwise man has no standing or authority to overthrow tyrannical regimes.

That is really stupid, and back to square one.

And yet it was our stated authority to declare independence.

That we are granted unalienable rights because we are God’s creatures.

At the time of course- we came from European countries who had kings who claimed that God gave them their undisputed authority as Kings.

I find it fascinating that you folks think that if there is no god- we would have no 'right' to be against tyranny.

 

[G.T.]

Otherwise man has no standing or authority to overthrow tyrannical regimes.

That is really stupid, and back to square one.

And yet it was our stated authority to declare independence.

That we are granted unalienable rights because we are God’s creatures.

We can state whatever we want...that's just an ad-hoc assertion. Stating something doesn't make it the case, and they realized that they couldn't prove a deity which is why they canned a lot of the language in nature itself. You're not as bright as they were...in that regard.

And yet they believed it.

That's a huge so what...a lot of people believe in Religions that directly contradict others in their texts. In the sense that they're mutually exclusive...

Point being, everyone cannot be burdened with having to be right/correct about 100% of things 100% of the time, and Religious belief is very explicable by evolution - both social and biological.