"Stalin Is Not That Kind Of Man"

[Moonglow]

5. There can be no argument about FDR's pro-dictatorship proclivities. He raced to embrace Stalin's Bolsheviks when no previous President nor Sec'y of State would deign to do so.

Roosevelt Pushes for Recognition

Almost immediately upon taking office, however, President Roosevelt moved to establish formal diplomatic relations between the United States and the Soviet Union. His reasons for doing so were complex, but the decision was based on several primary factors. Roosevelt hoped that recognition of the Soviet Union would serve U.S. strategic interests by limiting Japanese expansionism in Asia, and he believed that full diplomatic recognition would serve American commercial interests in the Soviet Union, a matter of some concern to an Administration grappling with the effects of the Great Depression. Finally, the United States was the only major power that continued to withhold official diplomatic recognition from the Soviet Union.
Milestones: 1921–1936 - Office of the Historian


Fred Koch, grandfather of the Koch Brothers worked in the USSR and Nazi Germany..Why is he not on Polyslick's targets of cheap shots?

 

[PoliticalChic]

FDR was warned….and well aware of the blood lust of the Bolsheviks. He didn't care.

And that fit with his relationships with every dictator of the time.



5. There can be no argument about FDR's pro-dictatorship proclivities. He raced to embrace Stalin's Bolsheviks when no previous President nor Sec'y of State would deign to do so.



FDR came into office March 4th of 1933. On November 16, 1933, President Roosevelt rushed to embrace....recognize...the USSR.


If this act, based on FDR's additional pro-Soviet endeavors, was rational....then these folks must have been irrational:

"Four Presidents and their six Secretaries of State for over a decade and a half held to this resolve," i.e., refusal to recognize the Soviet government. That was written by Herbert Hoover, one of those four Presidents. He wrote it in his "Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath"by George H. Nash, published posthumously, obviously, in 2011, pg 24-29.

Yet, this man is considered the icon of the modern Democrat Party.





Now….what was that about President Trump being 'mentally unbalanced'????

Why are you so concerned about a president from 80 years ago showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t) when we have a current one that admires despots and continues to ignore the rule of law right now in the present?

1. "Why are you so concerned about a president from 80 years ago ..."
You poor, poor simpleton.

That query is answered in the very first line of the OP:
"This thread will explain the provenance of the current political milieu...."



2. "...(FDR) showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t)..."

Actually, he did.
a. he refused to acknowledge the Constitution
b. even his pals, other dictators, said the same thing:

1. The National Socialists, the Nazis, hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
   1. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
   2. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
   3. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
   4. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”

You must feel like you walked right into that one, huh?

Now.....are you sorry you don't have an education?

I have a masters plus.
Once again I enjoy your face plant.
Doofus in Chief: Ya know I’m a real smart person.
Roflmao

Clearly you misspelled "masters plus"....no doubt you have a "mustard plaster"

Everyone can see you are totally ignorant.

Or....are you now claiming to be a liar, in that I totally eviscerated your statement "...(FDR) showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t)..."

 

[Reasonable]

Addled, senile FDR called him "Uncle" Joe, and that's AFTER Uncle starved 6 million Kulaks to death

FDR in ALWAYS considered one of our top 3 presidents in every poll or any historian’s analysis.
Meanwhile we have a current president that can’t process information, gets bored reading his intelligence briefs and walks away and refuses to learn how government works.

 

[Reasonable]

FDR was warned….and well aware of the blood lust of the Bolsheviks. He didn't care.

And that fit with his relationships with every dictator of the time.



5. There can be no argument about FDR's pro-dictatorship proclivities. He raced to embrace Stalin's Bolsheviks when no previous President nor Sec'y of State would deign to do so.



FDR came into office March 4th of 1933. On November 16, 1933, President Roosevelt rushed to embrace....recognize...the USSR.


If this act, based on FDR's additional pro-Soviet endeavors, was rational....then these folks must have been irrational:

"Four Presidents and their six Secretaries of State for over a decade and a half held to this resolve," i.e., refusal to recognize the Soviet government. That was written by Herbert Hoover, one of those four Presidents. He wrote it in his "Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath"by George H. Nash, published posthumously, obviously, in 2011, pg 24-29.

Yet, this man is considered the icon of the modern Democrat Party.





Now….what was that about President Trump being 'mentally unbalanced'????

Why are you so concerned about a president from 80 years ago showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t) when we have a current one that admires despots and continues to ignore the rule of law right now in the present?

1. "Why are you so concerned about a president from 80 years ago ..."
You poor, poor simpleton.

That query is answered in the very first line of the OP:
"This thread will explain the provenance of the current political milieu...."



2. "...(FDR) showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t)..."

Actually, he did.
a. he refused to acknowledge the Constitution
b. even his pals, other dictators, said the same thing:

1. The National Socialists, the Nazis, hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
   1. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
   2. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
   3. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
   4. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”

You must feel like you walked right into that one, huh?

Now.....are you sorry you don't have an education?

I have a masters plus.
Once again I enjoy your face plant.
Doofus in Chief: Ya know I’m a real smart person.
Roflmao

Clearly you misspelled "masters plus"....no doubt you have a "mustard plaster"

Everyone can see you are totally ignorant.

Or....are you now claiming to be a liar, in that I totally eviscerated your statement "...(FDR) showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t)..."

Do you know the despot you support considers himself a “stable genius?”
If a dem president said something that stupid you’d be all over him.
Your hypocrisy is so easy to point out.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Just a note to document the desires of dictatorship by both FDR and Hussein Obama...

1. People were beginning to recognize the fascist nature of the National Recovery Administration(NRA), code when they saw "... the jailing of a New Jersey tailor named Jack Magid, whose crime was pressing a suit for thirty-five cents when the code fixed the price at forty cents."



2. And, of course, base on Obama doctrines, bakers who declined to bake a particular cake were fined enough to put them out of business.


Tyrants.
Both men.

 

[Moonglow]

FDR was warned….and well aware of the blood lust of the Bolsheviks. He didn't care.

And that fit with his relationships with every dictator of the time.



5. There can be no argument about FDR's pro-dictatorship proclivities. He raced to embrace Stalin's Bolsheviks when no previous President nor Sec'y of State would deign to do so.



FDR came into office March 4th of 1933. On November 16, 1933, President Roosevelt rushed to embrace....recognize...the USSR.


If this act, based on FDR's additional pro-Soviet endeavors, was rational....then these folks must have been irrational:

"Four Presidents and their six Secretaries of State for over a decade and a half held to this resolve," i.e., refusal to recognize the Soviet government. That was written by Herbert Hoover, one of those four Presidents. He wrote it in his "Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath"by George H. Nash, published posthumously, obviously, in 2011, pg 24-29.

Yet, this man is considered the icon of the modern Democrat Party.





Now….what was that about President Trump being 'mentally unbalanced'????

Why are you so concerned about a president from 80 years ago showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t) when we have a current one that admires despots and continues to ignore the rule of law right now in the present?

1. "Why are you so concerned about a president from 80 years ago ..."
You poor, poor simpleton.

That query is answered in the very first line of the OP:
"This thread will explain the provenance of the current political milieu...."



2. "...(FDR) showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t)..."

Actually, he did.
a. he refused to acknowledge the Constitution
b. even his pals, other dictators, said the same thing:

1. The National Socialists, the Nazis, hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
   1. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
   2. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
   3. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
   4. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”

You must feel like you walked right into that one, huh?

Now.....are you sorry you don't have an education?

I have a masters plus.
Once again I enjoy your face plant.
Doofus in Chief: Ya know I’m a real smart person.
Roflmao

Clearly you misspelled "masters plus"....no doubt you have a "mustard plaster"

Everyone can see you are totally ignorant.

Or....are you now claiming to be a liar, in that I totally eviscerated your statement "...(FDR) showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t)..."

Do you know the despot you support considers himself a “stable genius?”
If a dem president said something that stupid you’d be all over him.
Your hypocrisy is so easy to point out.

Members of the John Birch Society don't care...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Addled, senile FDR called him "Uncle" Joe, and that's AFTER Uncle starved 6 million Kulaks to death

FDR in ALWAYS considered one of our top 3 presidents in every poll or any historian’s analysis.
Meanwhile we have a current president that can’t process information, gets bored reading his intelligence briefs and walks away and refuses to learn how government works.

"FDR in ALWAYS considered one of our top 3 presidents in every poll or any historian’s analysis."


Soooo....you'd rather change the subject because I just schooled you on FDR, the wannabe dictator?

That means you lose, huh?

 

[Moonglow]

Just a note to document the desires of dictatorship by both FDR and Hussein Obama...

1. People were beginning to recognize the fascist nature of the National Recovery Administration(NRA), code when they saw "... the jailing of a New Jersey tailor named Jack Magid, whose crime was pressing a suit for thirty-five cents when the code fixed the price at forty cents."



2. And, of course, base on Obama doctrines, bakers who declined to bake a particular cake were fined enough to put them out of business.


Tyrants.
Both men.

Yeah the president controls every action down to the minute actions on the streets in every business....
Derp..

 

[Moonglow]

Addled, senile FDR called him "Uncle" Joe, and that's AFTER Uncle starved 6 million Kulaks to death

FDR in ALWAYS considered one of our top 3 presidents in every poll or any historian’s analysis.
Meanwhile we have a current president that can’t process information, gets bored reading his intelligence briefs and walks away and refuses to learn how government works.

"FDR in ALWAYS considered one of our top 3 presidents in every poll or any historian’s analysis."


Soooo....you'd rather change the subject because I just schooled you on FDR, the wannabe dictator?

That means you lose, huh?

You couldn't school a desk...or a fish..

 

[jillian]

This thread will explain the provenance of the current political milieu....


Here we go again. One of the usual (uneducated and unwashed) suspects, made the following charge about this humble poster….

"Why are you so wedded to lying about Barack Obama? (and FDR …."
over 60 percent of white republicans think obama was not born in US

Shocking, huh?

Of course this means only one thing to me: it's an unspoken demand for another lesson about the mistake, the one even greater than Obama….FDR.




Funny, that the current attack on President Trump is that he is mentally unbalanced.
Check this thread out, and see if FDR clearly was mentally unbalanced.
Learn the sort of judgment Franklin Roosevelt had vis-à-vis Joseph 'Koba' Stalin


1. In a letter to FDR, dated January 29, 1943, Ambassador William Bullitt warned Roosevelt about what would happen if he continued pursuing the policies of appeasement toward Stalin that formed the foundation of the American war strategy. He pleaded with FDR not to 'permit our war to prevent Nazi domination of Europe to be turned into a war to establish Soviet domination of Europe.' He predicted the Soviet annexation of half of Europe; George Kennan identified that letter as the earliest warning of what would be the result of FDR's policies. "For the President Personal & Secret: Correspondence Between Franklin D. Roosevelt and William C. Bullitt," Orville H. Bullitt, p. 575-590


2. FDR replied: "Bill, I don't dispute your facts, they are accurate, I don't dispute the logic of your reasoning. I have just had a hunch that Stalin is not that kind of a man.

Harry [Hopkins, Stalin's spy in the White House] says he's not and that he doesn't want anything in the world but security for his country, and I think that if I give him everything I possibly can and ask nothing from him in return, noblesse oblige, he won't try to annex anything and will work with me for a world of democracy and peace." William C. Bullitt, "How We Won The War and Lost The Peace," Life Magazine, August 30, 1948, p. 94

That was FDR's judgment about arguably the worst homicidal maniac in history: "Stalin is not that kind of a man"
Yet FDR's spawn are claiming that Trump is mentally unstable!!!!




3. "Stalin's two most memorable utterances are "Death solves all problems. No man, no problem"
and (he was advising his interrogators on how best to elicit a particular confession) "Beat, beat and beat again." "Koba The Dread," p. 112, by Martin Amis.

BTW….I can show, and will, a similar attitude by Roosevelt toward Adolph Hitler.
Good choice to be elected American President four times??


Ya' think?


More on Stalin in a moment, so you can make an informed decision……

over 60% of GOP loons think president Obama wasn't born here, because they're morons and probably replacing their bigotry with the assertion that the black guy couldn't possibly be a legitimate president

no one here is a stalinist, so why are you ranting and raving?

 

[jillian]

Addled, senile FDR called him "Uncle" Joe, and that's AFTER Uncle starved 6 million Kulaks to death

FDR in ALWAYS considered one of our top 3 presidents in every poll or any historian’s analysis.
Meanwhile we have a current president that can’t process information, gets bored reading his intelligence briefs and walks away and refuses to learn how government works.

"FDR in ALWAYS considered one of our top 3 presidents in every poll or any historian’s analysis."


Soooo....you'd rather change the subject because I just schooled you on FDR, the wannabe dictator?

That means you lose, huh?

You couldn't school a desk...

she's what idiots think smart people are supposed to sound like. it's amusing.

 

[Reasonable]

Hundreds of people that work in the White House question this president’s fitness to serve so what does the simple minded pol fraud focus on?
FDR.
Lol

 

[PoliticalChic]

Addled, senile FDR called him "Uncle" Joe, and that's AFTER Uncle starved 6 million Kulaks to death

FDR in ALWAYS considered one of our top 3 presidents in every poll or any historian’s analysis.
Meanwhile we have a current president that can’t process information, gets bored reading his intelligence briefs and walks away and refuses to learn how government works.

"Meanwhile we have a current president that can’t process information, gets bored reading his intelligence briefs and walks away and refuses to learn how government works."



Let's check:

"Hispanic unemployment at all-time low under Trump" Hispanic unemployment at all-time low under Trump

"Black Unemployment Rate Lowest in 17 Years"
Black Unemployment Rate Lowest in 17 Years




Maybe you remember this nightmare:
Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...st-ground-every-single-economic#ixzz2hihAOpVl

 

[Moonglow]

She never ever retorts to anyone that proves what she says is inflammatory rhetoric, like all good lemmings...

 

[PoliticalChic]

FDR was warned….and well aware of the blood lust of the Bolsheviks. He didn't care.

And that fit with his relationships with every dictator of the time.



5. There can be no argument about FDR's pro-dictatorship proclivities. He raced to embrace Stalin's Bolsheviks when no previous President nor Sec'y of State would deign to do so.



FDR came into office March 4th of 1933. On November 16, 1933, President Roosevelt rushed to embrace....recognize...the USSR.


If this act, based on FDR's additional pro-Soviet endeavors, was rational....then these folks must have been irrational:

"Four Presidents and their six Secretaries of State for over a decade and a half held to this resolve," i.e., refusal to recognize the Soviet government. That was written by Herbert Hoover, one of those four Presidents. He wrote it in his "Freedom Betrayed: Herbert Hoover's Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath"by George H. Nash, published posthumously, obviously, in 2011, pg 24-29.

Yet, this man is considered the icon of the modern Democrat Party.





Now….what was that about President Trump being 'mentally unbalanced'????

Why are you so concerned about a president from 80 years ago showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t) when we have a current one that admires despots and continues to ignore the rule of law right now in the present?

1. "Why are you so concerned about a president from 80 years ago ..."
You poor, poor simpleton.

That query is answered in the very first line of the OP:
"This thread will explain the provenance of the current political milieu...."



2. "...(FDR) showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t)..."

Actually, he did.
a. he refused to acknowledge the Constitution
b. even his pals, other dictators, said the same thing:

1. The National Socialists, the Nazis, hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
   1. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
   2. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
   3. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
   4. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”

You must feel like you walked right into that one, huh?

Now.....are you sorry you don't have an education?

I have a masters plus.
Once again I enjoy your face plant.
Doofus in Chief: Ya know I’m a real smart person.
Roflmao

Clearly you misspelled "masters plus"....no doubt you have a "mustard plaster"

Everyone can see you are totally ignorant.

Or....are you now claiming to be a liar, in that I totally eviscerated your statement "...(FDR) showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t)..."

Do you know the despot you support considers himself a “stable genius?”
If a dem president said something that stupid you’d be all over him.
Your hypocrisy is so easy to point out.

"Do you know the despot you support considers himself “ stable genius?”"

The pertinent query in this thread is how anyone can toss around the phrase 'mentally unstable,' and support the party of Franklin Roosevelt.

 

[Moonglow]

Addled, senile FDR called him "Uncle" Joe, and that's AFTER Uncle starved 6 million Kulaks to death

FDR in ALWAYS considered one of our top 3 presidents in every poll or any historian’s analysis.
Meanwhile we have a current president that can’t process information, gets bored reading his intelligence briefs and walks away and refuses to learn how government works.

"Meanwhile we have a current president that can’t process information, gets bored reading his intelligence briefs and walks away and refuses to learn how government works."



Let's check:

"Hispanic unemployment at all-time low under Trump" Hispanic unemployment at all-time low under Trump

"Black Unemployment Rate Lowest in 17 Years"
Black Unemployment Rate Lowest in 17 Years




Maybe you remember this nightmare:
Tavis Smiley: 'Black People Will Have Lost Ground in Every Single Economic Indicator' Under Obama
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...st-ground-every-single-economic#ixzz2hihAOpVl

Such fallacies of logic I don't know where to start...

 

[Moonglow]

Why are you so concerned about a president from 80 years ago showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t) when we have a current one that admires despots and continues to ignore the rule of law right now in the present?

1. "Why are you so concerned about a president from 80 years ago ..."
You poor, poor simpleton.

That query is answered in the very first line of the OP:
"This thread will explain the provenance of the current political milieu...."



2. "...(FDR) showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t)..."

Actually, he did.
a. he refused to acknowledge the Constitution
b. even his pals, other dictators, said the same thing:

1. The National Socialists, the Nazis, hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
   1. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
   2. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
   3. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
   4. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”

You must feel like you walked right into that one, huh?

Now.....are you sorry you don't have an education?

I have a masters plus.
Once again I enjoy your face plant.
Doofus in Chief: Ya know I’m a real smart person.
Roflmao

Clearly you misspelled "masters plus"....no doubt you have a "mustard plaster"

Everyone can see you are totally ignorant.

Or....are you now claiming to be a liar, in that I totally eviscerated your statement "...(FDR) showing despotic tendencies( he didn’t)..."

Do you know the despot you support considers himself a “stable genius?”
If a dem president said something that stupid you’d be all over him.
Your hypocrisy is so easy to point out.

"Do you know the despot you support considers himself “ stable genius?”"

The pertinent query in this thread is how anyone can toss around the phrase 'mentally unstable,' and support the party of Franklin Roosevelt.

The party of people in that were democrats then are dead....Just like the GOP and Hooverites, dead...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Addled, senile FDR called him "Uncle" Joe, and that's AFTER Uncle starved 6 million Kulaks to death

FDR in ALWAYS considered one of our top 3 presidents in every poll or any historian’s analysis.
Meanwhile we have a current president that can’t process information, gets bored reading his intelligence briefs and walks away and refuses to learn how government works.

"FDR in ALWAYS considered one of our top 3 presidents in every poll or any historian’s analysis."


Soooo....you'd rather change the subject because I just schooled you on FDR, the wannabe dictator?

That means you lose, huh?

You couldn't school a desk...

she's what idiots think smart people are supposed to sound like. it's amusing.

So we agree that, as usual, you are educationally unable to dispute any of my posts?

New Year, nothing new on your part.

 

[Moonglow]

And those that do dispute you that post educationally get ignored...Educationally.....what a hoot....

 

[Reasonable]

When Trump gets indicted with any number of possible crimes, the simple minded one will be fit to be tied and guaranteed she’ll defend his crimes and attack the one who discovered them.