Sources For U.S. Spy Network: CNN? , Fox?

[PoliticalChic]

National Intelligence Director James Clapper’s bid to defuse frustration on Capitol Hill over the intelligence community’s performance during the Mideast upheaval appeared to backfire Thursday, when his description of Egypt’s extremist Muslim Brotherhood as a “largely secular” group that has “eschewed violence” sparked outrage.

That characterization by the No. 1 U.S. intelligence official triggered an immediate backlash.

Clapper’s remark was a “head-snapping moment,” said Richard Engel, NBC’s chief foreign correspondent.

“That doesn’t make any sense from my knowledge of the organization,” Engel told MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell, “and I’ve spent
James Clapper
a lot of time with them.” He described it as “a complete misreading of the situation here in Egypt.”


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[Dr.Traveler]

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Sorry, Doc...you are totally wrong. "...pretty damn corrupt ...actively involved in overthrowing governments all over the world."

What you characterize as "actively involved in overthrowing governments all over the world" is, in actuality, behaving in just the manner that they should.

You should look into the collaborations between United Fruit and the CIA. It's pretty well documented how closely the needs of one followed the actions of the other. And that doesn't even get into the other corporations the CIA was acting in concert and on the behalf of. It was indeed, "pretty corrupt." I haven't even touched the Mafia and the CIA's connection.

And folks were justifiably upset about the CIA intervention in foreign governments. You should read up on the Guatemalan coup sometime. Or the Nicaraguan coup sometime. Or the Iranain coup sometime. Or the near endless list of overthrown democracies all over the world. People were pretty pissed off prior to the Church Commission. They'd fougt and bled and died and were taxed to high hell because they thought they were fighting for Freedom. Meanwhile the US had been fighting for dictatorships.

In the end, the CIA brought Congressional oversight down on themselves when they started peforming Acts of War on their own authority. There was no way that was going to fly.

And I've addressed the central contradiction that comes with the CIA. Either US is just another Soverign nation, or it's something unique and special. The CIA and their actions prior to the Church Commission isn't compatable with the image most folks have about what America should be, and as such, it had to stop.

 

[PoliticalChic]

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Sorry, Doc...you are totally wrong. "...pretty damn corrupt ...actively involved in overthrowing governments all over the world."

What you characterize as "actively involved in overthrowing governments all over the world" is, in actuality, behaving in just the manner that they should.

You should look into the collaborations between United Fruit and the CIA. It's pretty well documented how closely the needs of one followed the actions of the other. And that doesn't even get into the other corporations the CIA was acting in concert and on the behalf of. It was indeed, "pretty corrupt." I haven't even touched the Mafia and the CIA's connection.

And folks were justifiably upset about the CIA intervention in foreign governments. You should read up on the Guatemalan coup sometime. Or the Nicaraguan coup sometime. Or the Iranain coup sometime. Or the near endless list of overthrown democracies all over the world. People were pretty pissed off prior to the Church Commission. They'd fougt and bled and died and were taxed to high hell because they thought they were fighting for Freedom. Meanwhile the US had been fighting for dictatorships.

In the end, the CIA brought Congressional oversight down on themselves when they started peforming Acts of War on their own authority. There was no way that was going to fly.

And I've addressed the central contradiction that comes with the CIA. Either US is just another Soverign nation, or it's something unique and special. The CIA and their actions prior to the Church Commission isn't compatable with the image most folks have about what America should be, and as such, it had to stop.

"...folks were justifiably upset about the CIA intervention in foreign governments...."

No, just folks who were not in agreement that the aims and wishies of our nation were more important than the aims and wishes of other nations.

We elect representatives of the United States...not to look out for every nation equally.

If we find same in conflict with some other set of values, OK, we change course, or elect other folks....as has happened.

But to emasculate our intelligence network, sorry, I don't agree.
The logical conclusion of he last 40 or 50 years is that one can blame neither Bush for lack of knowledge of WMD's or Obama for the Middle East.

 

[The T]

1. Leon Panetta, head of the Central Intelligence Agency, says the U.S. has not been able to confirm that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak is about to step down.

“We haven’t been able to confirm in fact that he is going to do that, so we are monitoring the situation,” CIA Director Leon Panetta told a Bloomberg reporter in Washington, following a House committee hearing on security threats. EGYPT: CIA's Leon Panetta says Hosni Mubarak exit not confirmed | Babylon & Beyond | Los Angeles Times

2. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers of Michigan asked Panetta about news reports that Mubarak was poised to relinquish power.
"I got the same information you did, that there is a strong likelihood that Mubarak will step down this evening, which will be significant in terms of where the hopefully orderly transition in Egypt will take place," the CIA director said. Panetta did not say how the CIA reached that conclusion.
State TV said Mubarak will speak to the nation Thursday night from his palace in Cairo.
CIA Director Leon Panetta says it looks likely that Mubarak is out | Deseret News

Shouldn't the United States of America have a real 'spy' network? What the heck happened to it?

Answer: the Democrat Party...

3. During the 1970’s, as a result of Vietnam, Watergate and domestic spying, the Congress decided to gain control over the intelligence community.“…Congress moved in the mid-1970s to “reassert” its role in shaping American foreign policy, including the most controversial tool of that policy, covert action. Secrecy was seen as antithetical to the American way, and there was widespread agreement that “rogue” agencies such as the CIA were a threat to liberty.

a. [Democrat] Senator Frank Church and his allies claimed that an assertive legislative role would bring the United States “back to the genius of the Founding Fathers.” This assertion was made despite the fact that American presidents from 1789 to 1974 were given wide latitude to conduct clandestine operations they believed were in the national interest.

b. The damage done to the CIA by this congressional oversight regime (Democrat-controlled Pike and Church Committees) is quite extensive.

c. [A]s Henry Kissinger once observed about the Church Committee, that it is an illusion that “tranquility can be achieved by an abstract purity of motive for which history offers no example.” It is precisely this illusion which has prevailed in congressional circles since the heyday of Frank Church and Otis Pike. As Church himself once argued, the United States should not “fight fire with fire . . . evil with evil.”

d. [C]hairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Joseph Biden,…[t]he Delaware Democrat was one of seventeen Senators who voted in 1974 to ban all covert operations, and proudly noted during his 1988 campaign for president that he had threatened to “go public” with covert action plans by the Reagan administration, causing them to cancel the operations.
Congressional Oversight and the Crippling of the CIA

d. [Democrat] Senator Robert Torricelli of New Jersey, who led the charge in the mid-1990s to prevent the CIA from hiring unsavory characters. Ibid.

4. Here at home, the Obama administration has gravely impaired our capability to gather human intelligence by declassifying hundreds of pages of documents that explain our interrogation techniques—information that is now probably in al-Qaeda training manuals. https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2009&month=10

5. On September 2, 2003, and again on October 2nd, [Democrat] Berger concealed and removed a total of five xerox copies of classified documents from the Archives. ...Berger took the documents to his office in Washington, D.C., where he destroyed three of the copies.
Sandy Berger - Conservapedia

6. [Democrat] Senator Pat Leahy was annoyed with the Reagan administration's war on terrorism in the 1980s. At the time he was vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. ....disclosed a top-secret communications intercept ...Leahy leaked secret information about a 1986 covert operation planned by the Reagan administration ...had to resign his Intelligence Committee post after he was caught leaking secret information ....
American Chronicle | Sen. Leahy to FBI Director: Give Me Secret Information

7. In 1983, [Democrat] Sen. Edward M. Kennedy offered to help the Soviets mount a public-relations offensive in the United States. Ted Kennedy sides with Soviets. Traitor [Archive] - Georgia Outdoor News Forum

8. Freeh: "Unfortunately, the [Clinton] White House was unable or unwilling to help the FBI gain access to these critical witnesses. The only direction from the Clinton administration regarding Iran was to order the FBI to stop photographing and fingerprinting official Iranian delegations entering the U.S. because it was adversely impacting our "relationship" with Tehran. "

BTW, Freeh: "I finally turned to the former President Bush, who immediately interceded with Crown Prince Abdullah on the FBI's behalf. Mr. Bush personally asked the Saudis to let the FBI do one-on-one interviews of the detained Khobar bombers. The Saudis immediately acceded."
Remember Khobar Towers by Louis J. Freeh
Michelle Malkin » KHOBAR TOWERS: 10 YEARS LATER


And, what has our 'spy network' become?

It is just the latest effort by Panetta to improve the efficiency and work environment at the agency. Panetta has also moved to make the super-secret agency a bit more accessible to the public to bolster the CIA's image. Just this week, for example, the agency announced that it was adding links on the CIA.gov homepage to social media sites like YouTube and Flickr. "The idea behind these improvements is to make more information about the agency available to more people, more easily," Panetta said. "The CIA wants the American people and the world to understand its mission and its vital role in keeping our country safe."
CIA's Panetta Shakes up His Spy Corps - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

In your gaggle of characters here? Interesting a good lot of them were never called on the carpet for giving away secrets...especially Kennedy and Leaky Leahy. Sandy Burgler got a slap on the hand...

What you demonstrate so aptly here is that Statists cannot be left in charge of anything and we have been relegated to the ineptness of the media to keep our leaders abreast of world events.

And the worst of it is it is on purpose.

Stellar work!

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Leon Panetta, head of the Central Intelligence Agency, says the U.S. has not been able to confirm that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak is about to step down.

“We haven’t been able to confirm in fact that he is going to do that, so we are monitoring the situation,” CIA Director Leon Panetta told a Bloomberg reporter in Washington, following a House committee hearing on security threats. EGYPT: CIA's Leon Panetta says Hosni Mubarak exit not confirmed | Babylon & Beyond | Los Angeles Times

2. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers of Michigan asked Panetta about news reports that Mubarak was poised to relinquish power.
"I got the same information you did, that there is a strong likelihood that Mubarak will step down this evening, which will be significant in terms of where the hopefully orderly transition in Egypt will take place," the CIA director said. Panetta did not say how the CIA reached that conclusion.
State TV said Mubarak will speak to the nation Thursday night from his palace in Cairo.
CIA Director Leon Panetta says it looks likely that Mubarak is out | Deseret News

Shouldn't the United States of America have a real 'spy' network? What the heck happened to it?

Answer: the Democrat Party...

3. During the 1970’s, as a result of Vietnam, Watergate and domestic spying, the Congress decided to gain control over the intelligence community.“…Congress moved in the mid-1970s to “reassert” its role in shaping American foreign policy, including the most controversial tool of that policy, covert action. Secrecy was seen as antithetical to the American way, and there was widespread agreement that “rogue” agencies such as the CIA were a threat to liberty.

a. [Democrat] Senator Frank Church and his allies claimed that an assertive legislative role would bring the United States “back to the genius of the Founding Fathers.” This assertion was made despite the fact that American presidents from 1789 to 1974 were given wide latitude to conduct clandestine operations they believed were in the national interest.

b. The damage done to the CIA by this congressional oversight regime (Democrat-controlled Pike and Church Committees) is quite extensive.

c. [A]s Henry Kissinger once observed about the Church Committee, that it is an illusion that “tranquility can be achieved by an abstract purity of motive for which history offers no example.” It is precisely this illusion which has prevailed in congressional circles since the heyday of Frank Church and Otis Pike. As Church himself once argued, the United States should not “fight fire with fire . . . evil with evil.”

d. [C]hairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Joseph Biden,…[t]he Delaware Democrat was one of seventeen Senators who voted in 1974 to ban all covert operations, and proudly noted during his 1988 campaign for president that he had threatened to “go public” with covert action plans by the Reagan administration, causing them to cancel the operations.
Congressional Oversight and the Crippling of the CIA

d. [Democrat] Senator Robert Torricelli of New Jersey, who led the charge in the mid-1990s to prevent the CIA from hiring unsavory characters. Ibid.

4. Here at home, the Obama administration has gravely impaired our capability to gather human intelligence by declassifying hundreds of pages of documents that explain our interrogation techniques—information that is now probably in al-Qaeda training manuals. https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2009&month=10

5. On September 2, 2003, and again on October 2nd, [Democrat] Berger concealed and removed a total of five xerox copies of classified documents from the Archives. ...Berger took the documents to his office in Washington, D.C., where he destroyed three of the copies.
Sandy Berger - Conservapedia

6. [Democrat] Senator Pat Leahy was annoyed with the Reagan administration's war on terrorism in the 1980s. At the time he was vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. ....disclosed a top-secret communications intercept ...Leahy leaked secret information about a 1986 covert operation planned by the Reagan administration ...had to resign his Intelligence Committee post after he was caught leaking secret information ....
American Chronicle | Sen. Leahy to FBI Director: Give Me Secret Information

7. In 1983, [Democrat] Sen. Edward M. Kennedy offered to help the Soviets mount a public-relations offensive in the United States. Ted Kennedy sides with Soviets. Traitor [Archive] - Georgia Outdoor News Forum

8. Freeh: "Unfortunately, the [Clinton] White House was unable or unwilling to help the FBI gain access to these critical witnesses. The only direction from the Clinton administration regarding Iran was to order the FBI to stop photographing and fingerprinting official Iranian delegations entering the U.S. because it was adversely impacting our "relationship" with Tehran. "

BTW, Freeh: "I finally turned to the former President Bush, who immediately interceded with Crown Prince Abdullah on the FBI's behalf. Mr. Bush personally asked the Saudis to let the FBI do one-on-one interviews of the detained Khobar bombers. The Saudis immediately acceded."
Remember Khobar Towers by Louis J. Freeh
Michelle Malkin » KHOBAR TOWERS: 10 YEARS LATER


And, what has our 'spy network' become?

It is just the latest effort by Panetta to improve the efficiency and work environment at the agency. Panetta has also moved to make the super-secret agency a bit more accessible to the public to bolster the CIA's image. Just this week, for example, the agency announced that it was adding links on the CIA.gov homepage to social media sites like YouTube and Flickr. "The idea behind these improvements is to make more information about the agency available to more people, more easily," Panetta said. "The CIA wants the American people and the world to understand its mission and its vital role in keeping our country safe."
CIA's Panetta Shakes up His Spy Corps - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

In your gaggle of characters here? Interesting a good lot of them were never called on the carpet for giving away secrets...especially Kennedy and Leaky Leahy. Sandy Burgler got a slap on the hand...

What you demonstrate so aptly here is that Statists cannot be left in charge of anything and we have been relegated to the ineptness of the media to keep our leaders abreast of world events.

And the worst of it is it is on purpose.

Stellar work!

Thank you for the kind words.

As a side note, there can hardly be a better indictment of how poorly we have been served by the Fourth Estate, not just in view of the current administration, but over the last 30 or 40 years.

 

[The T]

1. Leon Panetta, head of the Central Intelligence Agency, says the U.S. has not been able to confirm that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak is about to step down.

“We haven’t been able to confirm in fact that he is going to do that, so we are monitoring the situation,” CIA Director Leon Panetta told a Bloomberg reporter in Washington, following a House committee hearing on security threats. EGYPT: CIA's Leon Panetta says Hosni Mubarak exit not confirmed | Babylon & Beyond | Los Angeles Times

2. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers of Michigan asked Panetta about news reports that Mubarak was poised to relinquish power.
"I got the same information you did, that there is a strong likelihood that Mubarak will step down this evening, which will be significant in terms of where the hopefully orderly transition in Egypt will take place," the CIA director said. Panetta did not say how the CIA reached that conclusion.
State TV said Mubarak will speak to the nation Thursday night from his palace in Cairo.
CIA Director Leon Panetta says it looks likely that Mubarak is out | Deseret News

Shouldn't the United States of America have a real 'spy' network? What the heck happened to it?

Answer: the Democrat Party...

3. During the 1970’s, as a result of Vietnam, Watergate and domestic spying, the Congress decided to gain control over the intelligence community.“…Congress moved in the mid-1970s to “reassert” its role in shaping American foreign policy, including the most controversial tool of that policy, covert action. Secrecy was seen as antithetical to the American way, and there was widespread agreement that “rogue” agencies such as the CIA were a threat to liberty.

a. [Democrat] Senator Frank Church and his allies claimed that an assertive legislative role would bring the United States “back to the genius of the Founding Fathers.” This assertion was made despite the fact that American presidents from 1789 to 1974 were given wide latitude to conduct clandestine operations they believed were in the national interest.

b. The damage done to the CIA by this congressional oversight regime (Democrat-controlled Pike and Church Committees) is quite extensive.

c. [A]s Henry Kissinger once observed about the Church Committee, that it is an illusion that “tranquility can be achieved by an abstract purity of motive for which history offers no example.” It is precisely this illusion which has prevailed in congressional circles since the heyday of Frank Church and Otis Pike. As Church himself once argued, the United States should not “fight fire with fire . . . evil with evil.”

d. [C]hairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Joseph Biden,…[t]he Delaware Democrat was one of seventeen Senators who voted in 1974 to ban all covert operations, and proudly noted during his 1988 campaign for president that he had threatened to “go public” with covert action plans by the Reagan administration, causing them to cancel the operations.
Congressional Oversight and the Crippling of the CIA

d. [Democrat] Senator Robert Torricelli of New Jersey, who led the charge in the mid-1990s to prevent the CIA from hiring unsavory characters. Ibid.

4. Here at home, the Obama administration has gravely impaired our capability to gather human intelligence by declassifying hundreds of pages of documents that explain our interrogation techniques—information that is now probably in al-Qaeda training manuals. https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2009&month=10

5. On September 2, 2003, and again on October 2nd, [Democrat] Berger concealed and removed a total of five xerox copies of classified documents from the Archives. ...Berger took the documents to his office in Washington, D.C., where he destroyed three of the copies.
Sandy Berger - Conservapedia

6. [Democrat] Senator Pat Leahy was annoyed with the Reagan administration's war on terrorism in the 1980s. At the time he was vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. ....disclosed a top-secret communications intercept ...Leahy leaked secret information about a 1986 covert operation planned by the Reagan administration ...had to resign his Intelligence Committee post after he was caught leaking secret information ....
American Chronicle | Sen. Leahy to FBI Director: Give Me Secret Information

7. In 1983, [Democrat] Sen. Edward M. Kennedy offered to help the Soviets mount a public-relations offensive in the United States. Ted Kennedy sides with Soviets. Traitor [Archive] - Georgia Outdoor News Forum

8. Freeh: "Unfortunately, the [Clinton] White House was unable or unwilling to help the FBI gain access to these critical witnesses. The only direction from the Clinton administration regarding Iran was to order the FBI to stop photographing and fingerprinting official Iranian delegations entering the U.S. because it was adversely impacting our "relationship" with Tehran. "

BTW, Freeh: "I finally turned to the former President Bush, who immediately interceded with Crown Prince Abdullah on the FBI's behalf. Mr. Bush personally asked the Saudis to let the FBI do one-on-one interviews of the detained Khobar bombers. The Saudis immediately acceded."
Remember Khobar Towers by Louis J. Freeh
Michelle Malkin » KHOBAR TOWERS: 10 YEARS LATER


And, what has our 'spy network' become?

It is just the latest effort by Panetta to improve the efficiency and work environment at the agency. Panetta has also moved to make the super-secret agency a bit more accessible to the public to bolster the CIA's image. Just this week, for example, the agency announced that it was adding links on the CIA.gov homepage to social media sites like YouTube and Flickr. "The idea behind these improvements is to make more information about the agency available to more people, more easily," Panetta said. "The CIA wants the American people and the world to understand its mission and its vital role in keeping our country safe."
CIA's Panetta Shakes up His Spy Corps - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

In your gaggle of characters here? Interesting a good lot of them were never called on the carpet for giving away secrets...especially Kennedy and Leaky Leahy. Sandy Burgler got a slap on the hand...

What you demonstrate so aptly here is that Statists cannot be left in charge of anything and we have been relegated to the ineptness of the media to keep our leaders abreast of world events.

And the worst of it is it is on purpose.

Stellar work!

Thank you for the kind words.

As a side note, there can hardly be a better indictment of how poorly we have been served by the Fourth Estate, not just in view of the current administration, but over the last 30 or 40 years.

Because the 'Fourth Estate' is equally giddy in their zeal to bring us down. They had better be careful of what they wish for in my view. Consequences be damned.