Sources For U.S. Spy Network: CNN? , Fox?

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    1. Leon Panetta, head of the Central Intelligence Agency, says the U.S. has not been able to confirm that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak is about to step down.

    “We haven’t been able to confirm in fact that he is going to do that, so we are monitoring the situation,” CIA Director Leon Panetta told a Bloomberg reporter in Washington, following a House committee hearing on security threats. EGYPT: CIA's Leon Panetta says Hosni Mubarak exit not confirmed | Babylon & Beyond | Los Angeles Times

    2. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers of Michigan asked Panetta about news reports that Mubarak was poised to relinquish power.
    "I got the same information you did, that there is a strong likelihood that Mubarak will step down this evening, which will be significant in terms of where the hopefully orderly transition in Egypt will take place," the CIA director said. Panetta did not say how the CIA reached that conclusion.
    State TV said Mubarak will speak to the nation Thursday night from his palace in Cairo.
    CIA Director Leon Panetta says it looks likely that Mubarak is out | Deseret News

    Shouldn't the United States of America have a real 'spy' network? What the heck happened to it?

    Answer: the Democrat Party...

    3. During the 1970’s, as a result of Vietnam, Watergate and domestic spying, the Congress decided to gain control over the intelligence community.“…Congress moved in the mid-1970s to “reassert” its role in shaping American foreign policy, including the most controversial tool of that policy, covert action. Secrecy was seen as antithetical to the American way, and there was widespread agreement that “rogue” agencies such as the CIA were a threat to liberty.

    a. [Democrat] Senator Frank Church and his allies claimed that an assertive legislative role would bring the United States “back to the genius of the Founding Fathers.” This assertion was made despite the fact that American presidents from 1789 to 1974 were given wide latitude to conduct clandestine operations they believed were in the national interest.

    b. The damage done to the CIA by this congressional oversight regime (Democrat-controlled Pike and Church Committees) is quite extensive.

    c. [A]s Henry Kissinger once observed about the Church Committee, that it is an illusion that “tranquility can be achieved by an abstract purity of motive for which history offers no example.” It is precisely this illusion which has prevailed in congressional circles since the heyday of Frank Church and Otis Pike. As Church himself once argued, the United States should not “fight fire with fire . . . evil with evil.”

    d. [C]hairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Joseph Biden,…[t]he Delaware Democrat was one of seventeen Senators who voted in 1974 to ban all covert operations, and proudly noted during his 1988 campaign for president that he had threatened to “go public” with covert action plans by the Reagan administration, causing them to cancel the operations.
    Congressional Oversight and the Crippling of the CIA

    d. [Democrat] Senator Robert Torricelli of New Jersey, who led the charge in the mid-1990s to prevent the CIA from hiring unsavory characters. Ibid.

    4. Here at home, the Obama administration has gravely impaired our capability to gather human intelligence by declassifying hundreds of pages of documents that explain our interrogation techniques—information that is now probably in al-Qaeda training manuals. https://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2009&month=10

    5. On September 2, 2003, and again on October 2nd, [Democrat] Berger concealed and removed a total of five xerox copies of classified documents from the Archives. ...Berger took the documents to his office in Washington, D.C., where he destroyed three of the copies.
    Sandy Berger - Conservapedia

    6. [Democrat] Senator Pat Leahy was annoyed with the Reagan administration's war on terrorism in the 1980s. At the time he was vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. ....disclosed a top-secret communications intercept ...Leahy leaked secret information about a 1986 covert operation planned by the Reagan administration ...had to resign his Intelligence Committee post after he was caught leaking secret information ....
    American Chronicle | Sen. Leahy to FBI Director: Give Me Secret Information

    7. In 1983, [Democrat] Sen. Edward M. Kennedy offered to help the Soviets mount a public-relations offensive in the United States. Ted Kennedy sides with Soviets. Traitor [Archive] - Georgia Outdoor News Forum

    8. Freeh: "Unfortunately, the [Clinton] White House was unable or unwilling to help the FBI gain access to these critical witnesses. The only direction from the Clinton administration regarding Iran was to order the FBI to stop photographing and fingerprinting official Iranian delegations entering the U.S. because it was adversely impacting our "relationship" with Tehran. "

    BTW, Freeh: "I finally turned to the former President Bush, who immediately interceded with Crown Prince Abdullah on the FBI's behalf. Mr. Bush personally asked the Saudis to let the FBI do one-on-one interviews of the detained Khobar bombers. The Saudis immediately acceded."
    Remember Khobar Towers by Louis J. Freeh
    Michelle Malkin » KHOBAR TOWERS: 10 YEARS LATER


    And, what has our 'spy network' become?

    It is just the latest effort by Panetta to improve the efficiency and work environment at the agency. Panetta has also moved to make the super-secret agency a bit more accessible to the public to bolster the CIA's image. Just this week, for example, the agency announced that it was adding links on the CIA.gov homepage to social media sites like YouTube and Flickr. "The idea behind these improvements is to make more information about the agency available to more people, more easily," Panetta said. "The CIA wants the American people and the world to understand its mission and its vital role in keeping our country safe."
    CIA's Panetta Shakes up His Spy Corps - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)
     
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    Our spy network told us Saddam had WMD's.
     
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    I've given my opinion before of the bloated bureaucracy we call the Central Intelligence Agency or CIA and I ain't a supporter. Every major security incident in modern history was missed by the CIA from Korea to the Berlin Wall to the Missile Crisis to the JFK assassination by a defector who was allegedly a CIA informant to VietNam to the Iran hostage crisis to 9-11 to the Egyptian crisis. I actually heard a CIA spokesman whine about not having the sources in Egypt that they depend on. Panetta is a political hack as was almost every other CIA head in history. The CIA has become a tool of whatever administration is in power and is useless in gathering the intelligence we need for American security.
     
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    Thanks for supporting my point...the Democrats made sure that we don't have a network that has the ability to infiltrate enemy organizations...

    they actually forbid dealing with 'bad guys'...who are exactly the kinds of individuals necessary to penetrate enemy aggregations....
     
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    Admiral Stansfield Turner did the most damage to the CIA and we have never really recovered from it. He thought that field agents were passé and eliminated 820 positions under the Carter regime. These were seasoned field agents who got real intelligence the old fashioned way. Technology works wonders and today it is giving us hard intelligence, but no matter what technology we have, human intent is something it cannot account for. Plus a lot of the "Hot spots" (not the commercial hot spots) are low tech countries and they rely on human to human contact. Everybody in the World knows a lot about our capabilities in the tech field so they know how to hide communications.
     
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    We need that screwball err curveball? dude back. he was spot on for Iraq.
    He did say that Sadam was a bad guy and we should spread democracy there, right?
     
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    To be consistent with the import of this thread, that would be [Democrat] Stansfield Turner, appointed by [Democrat] President Jimmy Carter.
     
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    In case you missed it, Leon Panetta was called before Congress today and asked to explain exactly what in the world is going on over in Egypt. His answer was, essentially, “No worries, Mubarak will be stepping down by the end of the day.” As you may have noticed, that did not happen. This raised the rather obvious question of where the Director of the CIA got this thoroughly erroneous information that he gave to Congress. It turns out, he got it from the same place the rest of us got it: from watching his television.American officials said Mr. Panetta was basing his statement not on secret intelligence but on media broadcasts, which began circulating before he sat down before the House Intelligence Committee.
    Leon Panetta Has Got Some Real Inside Info | RedState

    Intelligence community....worth billions.

    Cable TV...priceless.
     
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    The entire Obama Administration is like a three ring circus. A bunch of assclowns running around clueless. This Administration needs to keep their mouths shut and leave well enough alone.
     
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    :eusa_whistle: what a crock of you know what, Pc.... Can you EVER discuss a situation WITHOUT pointing your manicured fingers at the Democrats? Honestly....can you?
     

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