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That's pretty lame man, wait all this time doing nothing and then say we ain't got enough time.
It has to start in Congress and I don't know whast Congress is waiting on to raise te debt limit.
The Republicans are trying to reach an agreement to stop squandering the peoples' money on the politicians' bribes, graft, influence peddling and theft.
If we only raise the debt limit and do not change the MO that brought us to this Greece-like condition, we're screwed.
did you look for a democratic plan?
Senate Democrats draft debt-reduction plan - The Washington Post
So where's the Senate plan, where's the document that the CBO can score? Where's Obama's proposal, what are the details, when did the CBO score that? What I hear so far is talk, with nothing to show the public.
Oh! Oh! Oh!
I know the answer to this one.
They talk about things that sound good, but never, ever commit any ideas to paper that might be scored or accounted for effectiveness.
They are lying, swindling thieves with no plan, no integrity and no intention of fixing anything but the next election.
That's pretty lame man, wait all this time doing nothing and then say we ain't got enough time.
It has to start in Congress and I don't know whast Congress is waiting on to raise te debt limit.
The Republicans are trying to reach an agreement to stop squandering the peoples' money on the politicians' bribes, graft, influence peddling and theft.
If we only raise the debt limit and do not change the MO that brought us to this Greece-like condition, we're screwed.
And they don't need a deal on spending or revenue to raise the debt limit...GOP is using this crisis to cut programs for the poor and middle class.
It doesn't make sense to put out a plan that Republicans say they will reject anyways. That would waste a lot of time we do not have.
Well, maybe they could start by issuing the plan, that is to say, the budget for 2009. Or for 2010. Or for 2011.
These worthless, lying a-holes haven't had a plan, or a clue, on spending since they got the majority. They are are blindly leading us all off the cliff.
Democrats have given in to spending cuts. But the Republicans will not raise the debt limit unless Obama agress to continue the Bush tax cuts which he said he wouldn't do.
It doesn't make sense to put out a plan that Republicans say they will reject anyways. That would waste a lot of time we do not have.
Well, maybe they could start by issuing the plan, that is to say, the budget for 2009. Or for 2010. Or for 2011.
These worthless, lying a-holes haven't had a plan, or a clue, on spending since they got the majority. They are are blindly leading us all off the cliff.
Democrats have given in to spending cuts. But the Republicans will not raise the debt limit unless Obama agress to continue the Bush tax cuts which he said he wouldn't do.
It has to start in Congress and I don't know whast Congress is waiting on to raise te debt limit.
The Republicans are trying to reach an agreement to stop squandering the peoples' money on the politicians' bribes, graft, influence peddling and theft.
If we only raise the debt limit and do not change the MO that brought us to this Greece-like condition, we're screwed.
When are the republicans trying to do this? How many of the republicans voted for Medicare Part D or all the other unfunded spending they pushed through. Even the balanced budget amendment is a farce. Where was this amendment from 2000-2006 when Bush didn't issue a single veto? They know it won't pass the Senate so they put it out for political reasons, with no intention of ever following through.
It has to start in Congress and I don't know whast Congress is waiting on to raise te debt limit.
The Republicans are trying to reach an agreement to stop squandering the peoples' money on the politicians' bribes, graft, influence peddling and theft.
If we only raise the debt limit and do not change the MO that brought us to this Greece-like condition, we're screwed.
When are the republicans trying to do this? How many of the republicans voted for Medicare Part D or all the other unfunded spending they pushed through. Even the balanced budget amendment is a farce. Where was this amendment from 2000-2006 when Bush didn't issue a single veto? They know it won't pass the Senate so they put it out for political reasons, with no intention of ever following through.
So where's the Senate plan, where's the document that the CBO can score? Where's Obama's proposal, what are the details, when did the CBO score that? What I hear so far is talk, with nothing to show the public.
Oh! Oh! Oh!
I know the answer to this one.
They talk about things that sound good, but never, ever commit any ideas to paper that might be scored or accounted for effectiveness.
They are lying, swindling thieves with no plan, no integrity and no intention of fixing anything but the next election.
You have just described the republicans to a T and all we have to do is look back to 2000-2006 for confirmation.
It has to start in Congress and I don't know whast Congress is waiting on to raise te debt limit.
The Republicans are trying to reach an agreement to stop squandering the peoples' money on the politicians' bribes, graft, influence peddling and theft.
If we only raise the debt limit and do not change the MO that brought us to this Greece-like condition, we're screwed.
No the hang up is Republicans want a continuation of the Bush tax cuts, Obama has conceded on some of the spending cuts.
The Republicans are trying to reach an agreement to stop squandering the peoples' money on the politicians' bribes, graft, influence peddling and theft.
If we only raise the debt limit and do not change the MO that brought us to this Greece-like condition, we're screwed.
No the hang up is Republicans want a continuation of the Bush tax cuts, Obama has conceded on some of the spending cuts.
There are no Bush Tax Cuts. The bush Tax Cuts expired. The Current tax rates were voted on and passed by a Congress that follwed the Inauguration of the Big 0 and, coincidentally were signed by the Big 0.
The Current tax rates are the obama Tax Rates.
Out of curiosity, how big a national debt would you like to see ours become?
did you look for a democratic plan?We're looking at an annual deficit of 1.5 or 1.6 trillion dollars. Obama wants to raise taxes on the rich to about 1 trillion over the next 10 years, which is about 100 billion per year. I doubt you'd actually get that much, but say you did, doesn't that leave 1.4 - 1.5 trillion left in deficits? Where are you going to get that money? What spending are you going to cut? I haven't seen anything definite from the pres or from the dems in Congress for what they'll cut, why is that? Shouldn't the American people see a plan from both sides?
You realize that if you suck a trillion dollars out of the economy over the next 10 years that there is an economic cost, right? Investments made by Americans will be reduced, as will foreign investments that we won't get the tax benefits from. Money flows to where it gets the most return, and there are plenty of emerging markets to invest in. Seems to me the democrats want a bigger piece of the same size pie rather than getting the same size piece of out a bigger pie. What's the difference? A bigger pie means more jobs, that's why. It also means less money going out in UE benefits and other gov't programs.
So tell me, if raising taxes is a good thing, why is every other country LOWERING taxes and cutting spending? ALL OF THEM, nobody is raising taxes. 15 years ago Canada was where we are now, relatively speaking. You know how they turned things around? They lowered taxes and cut spending. So why in God's name is Obama and the Dems trying to do the opposite?
Senate Democrats draft debt-reduction plan
By Lori Montgomery, Published: July 8
Senate Democrats have drafted a sweeping debt-reduction plan that would slice $4 trillion from projected borrowing over the next decade without touching the expensive health and retirement programs targeted by President Obama.
Instead, Senate Democrats are proposing to stabilize borrowing through sharp cuts at the Pentagon and other government agencies, as well as $2 trillion in new taxes, primarily on families earning more than $1 million year, according to a copy of the plan obtained by The Washington Post.
Senate Democrats draft debt-reduction plan - The Washington Post
You're probably correct taxing those over $250,000, we will only raise about 100 billion, but who said that's the extent of the tax increases. I think the administration has identified a hundred billion in cuts. Also 140 billion in jobless benefits will expire without being renewed plus there is pickup in revenue due to the recovery. There is absolutely no plan to wipe out the deficit. They are just looking at getting it under control which means getting into the range of 400-700 billion. At that point the deficit as a percent of GDP is comparable to other developed nations.We're looking at an annual deficit of 1.5 or 1.6 trillion dollars. Obama wants to raise taxes on the rich to about 1 trillion over the next 10 years, which is about 100 billion per year. I doubt you'd actually get that much, but say you did, doesn't that leave 1.4 - 1.5 trillion left in deficits? Where are you going to get that money? What spending are you going to cut? I haven't seen anything definite from the pres or from the dems in Congress for what they'll cut, why is that? Shouldn't the American people see a plan from both sides?
You realize that if you suck a trillion dollars out of the economy over the next 10 years that there is an economic cost, right? Investments made by Americans will be reduced, as will foreign investments that we won't get the tax benefits from. Money flows to where it gets the most return, and there are plenty of emerging markets to invest in. Seems to me the democrats want a bigger piece of the same size pie rather than getting the same size piece of out a bigger pie. What's the difference? A bigger pie means more jobs, that's why. It also means less money going out in UE benefits and other gov't programs.
So tell me, if raising taxes is a good thing, why is every other country LOWERING taxes and cutting spending? ALL OF THEM, nobody is raising taxes. 15 years ago Canada was where we are now, relatively speaking. You know how they turned things around? They lowered taxes and cut spending. So why in God's name is Obama and the Dems trying to do the opposite?
No, every other country is not lowering their taxes. Most of the EU countries and UK as well as India, just for starters have either increased taxes are have plans to do so.
No the hang up is Republicans want a continuation of the Bush tax cuts, Obama has conceded on some of the spending cuts.
There are no Bush Tax Cuts. The bush Tax Cuts expired. The Current tax rates were voted on and passed by a Congress that follwed the Inauguration of the Big 0 and, coincidentally were signed by the Big 0.
The Current tax rates are the obama Tax Rates.
Out of curiosity, how big a national debt would you like to see ours become?
Yes but they are set to expire and Republicans want to extend them.
...how big a national debt would you like to see ours become?
and the conservative/republican plan HAS ZERO DEBT ADDED the next 10 years, RIGHT? hahahahaha! NOT!did you look for a democratic plan?We're looking at an annual deficit of 1.5 or 1.6 trillion dollars. Obama wants to raise taxes on the rich to about 1 trillion over the next 10 years, which is about 100 billion per year. I doubt you'd actually get that much, but say you did, doesn't that leave 1.4 - 1.5 trillion left in deficits? Where are you going to get that money? What spending are you going to cut? I haven't seen anything definite from the pres or from the dems in Congress for what they'll cut, why is that? Shouldn't the American people see a plan from both sides?
You realize that if you suck a trillion dollars out of the economy over the next 10 years that there is an economic cost, right? Investments made by Americans will be reduced, as will foreign investments that we won't get the tax benefits from. Money flows to where it gets the most return, and there are plenty of emerging markets to invest in. Seems to me the democrats want a bigger piece of the same size pie rather than getting the same size piece of out a bigger pie. What's the difference? A bigger pie means more jobs, that's why. It also means less money going out in UE benefits and other gov't programs.
So tell me, if raising taxes is a good thing, why is every other country LOWERING taxes and cutting spending? ALL OF THEM, nobody is raising taxes. 15 years ago Canada was where we are now, relatively speaking. You know how they turned things around? They lowered taxes and cut spending. So why in God's name is Obama and the Dems trying to do the opposite?
Senate Democrats draft debt-reduction plan - The Washington PostSenate Democrats draft debt-reduction plan
By Lori Montgomery, Published: July 8
Senate Democrats have drafted a sweeping debt-reduction plan that would slice $4 trillion from projected borrowing over the next decade without touching the expensive health and retirement programs targeted by President Obama.
Instead, Senate Democrats are proposing to stabilize borrowing through sharp cuts at the Pentagon and other government agencies, as well as $2 trillion in new taxes, primarily on families earning more than $1 million year, according to a copy of the plan obtained by The Washington Post.
Not trying to be arbitrary here, but they are INCREASEING the debt by 1.5 Trillion per year.
They propose to decrease burrowing by 4 Trillion over ten years.
That's a Four Trillion reduction vs. a 15 Trillion dollar increase.
Sounds to me like their sweeping plan is a plan for another 11 Trillion dollars of debt.
What are these lying a-holes smoking? Do they think we are all smoking the same stuff?
We're looking at an annual deficit of 1.5 or 1.6 trillion dollars. Obama wants to raise taxes on the rich to about 1 trillion over the next 10 years, which is about 100 billion per year. I doubt you'd actually get that much, but say you did, doesn't that leave 1.4 - 1.5 trillion left in deficits? Where are you going to get that money? What spending are you going to cut? I haven't seen anything definite from the pres or from the dems in Congress for what they'll cut, why is that? Shouldn't the American people see a plan from both sides?
You realize that if you suck a trillion dollars out of the economy over the next 10 years that there is an economic cost, right? Investments made by Americans will be reduced, as will foreign investments that we won't get the tax benefits from. Money flows to where it gets the most return, and there are plenty of emerging markets to invest in. Seems to me the democrats want a bigger piece of the same size pie rather than getting the same size piece of out a bigger pie. What's the difference? A bigger pie means more jobs, that's why. It also means less money going out in UE benefits and other gov't programs.
So tell me, if raising taxes is a good thing, why is every other country LOWERING taxes and cutting spending? ALL OF THEM, nobody is raising taxes. 15 years ago Canada was where we are now, relatively speaking. You know how they turned things around? They lowered taxes and cut spending. So why in God's name is Obama and the Dems trying to do the opposite?
I haven't seen anything definite from the pres or from the dems in Congress for what they'll cut, why is that? Shouldn't the American people see a plan from both sides?
