Agnapostate
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Oh no! Another catfight?
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And you find people who say that poor people are the happiest people...
Don't mean I want to strive to be poor or be in a country that strives towards socialism
Do you have a response that results from actually reading the article in question, or are meaningless platitudes all we can expect from you?
We hear, repeatedly, how socialism = bad. It's practically modern American dogma. But, it appears to me that those countries simultaneously have some of the HIGHEST productivity levels AND the highest happiness levels. So, the standard response that socialism kills personal motivation appears to be false.
Maybe, people can be MORE productive when they aren't walking around with a toothache or in chronic pain because they can't afford health or dental care? It's a thought I am having more often these days, spending most of my time working with poor people.
A grandmother performed her own tooth extractions in despair after being turned away by 12 dentists.
Elizabeth Green, 76, was in agony with two front teeth and after a fruitless search for an NHS practitioner, resorted to DIY.
Her case is the latest of many to highlight the dwindling availability of NHS dental treatment.
Days of agony: Elizabeth Green resorted to pulling her own teeth out after failing to find an NHS dentist
Mrs Green, a former chef, said it was made plain to her that if she could pay for treatment she would have been welcomed.
"I feel so angry," she said. "I've worked all my life and paid taxes and then when I need help I can't get it."
Last night she explained how she took matters into her own hands.
"Two of my front teeth started getting loose and became more and more painful.
"My gum became very sore so I contacted a dentist that I had been to in the past, but they said they were not taking on new patients.
"The problem was getting worse so I started ringing round the dentists in the Yellow Pages.
"I phoned about 12 but they all said they same thing - 'Sorry, we are not taking on any new NHS patients'.
"I also phoned a dental helpline but they couldn't offer a solution either. The teeth got more and more painful and one evening I couldn't take it any longer so I moved the teeth back and forwards and twisted them and eventually they came out."
That is simply not the case. You make assumptions based on a faulty belief that a socialized medicine would provide good healthcare to eveyone. Not true as you can see below.
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That is simply not the case. You make assumptions based on a faulty belief that a socialized medicine would provide good healthcare to eveyone. Not true as you can see below.
chris has stated in the past that he does NOT buy insurance because he doesn't believe in it, not because he can't afford it.
The comment was directed at Chris, no one else.
Chris pays for insurance if he works.
He pays about 6% of his income into medicade.
Ergo he is NOT freeloading, he is merely an as-yet unenrolled participant in the medicade system.
which is something you and I will have to pay for if he needs an operation.
Give me some examples of developed, prosperous democratic nations that follow the tenets of your rightwing republican conservative ideology.
That is simply not the case. You make assumptions based on a faulty belief that a socialized medicine would provide good healthcare to eveyone. Not true as you can see below.
You realize that that's an anecdotal example that's not a sufficient substitute for legitimate statistical data, right? That said, I'll forgive you if you can prove your claim that your avatar is a picture of you.
Exactly.
There'a a reason people from Canada come to the US for treatment.
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That is simply not the case. You make assumptions based on a faulty belief that a socialized medicine would provide good healthcare to eveyone. Not true as you can see below.
And for every example of 'socialised' medicine failing, I give you an example of 'capitalised' medicine failing. I'm sure there is a point in there somewhere...
Exactly.
There'a a reason people from Canada come to the US for treatment.
The problem isn't technology.
The problem is access.
We have probably the best technology and specialists in the world. Rich people from around the world may come here for heart transplants, or procedures.
The problem is, not every one has access to adequate, affordable healthcare here. Because we don't cover all of our citizens with universal coverage.
Exactly.
There'a a reason people from Canada come to the US for treatment.
The problem isn't technology.
The problem is access.
We have probably the best technology and specialists in the world. Rich people from around the world may come here for heart transplants, or procedures.
The problem is, not every one has access to adequate, affordable healthcare here. Because we don't cover all of our citizens with universal coverage.
We all know what a prosperous and successful democratic nation is. Its self evident.
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That is simply not the case. You make assumptions based on a faulty belief that a socialized medicine would provide good healthcare to eveyone. Not true as you can see below.
And for every example of 'socialised' medicine failing, I give you an example of 'capitalised' medicine failing. I'm sure there is a point in there somewhere...
Nobody in this country is proposing "socialize medicine".
that's just what Boss Limbaugh ordered you to believe.
If you want to debate this topic, you really should spend more than 30 seconds listening to the Limbaugh show, and at least learn what you're talking about.
Socialized medicine is where the government owns the hospitals, and doctors, nurses, and medical professionals are government employees.
There's not a single person in a position of authority in this country that has proposed that.
I'm not sure why wingnuts are afraid of having the same government financed healthcare that John Boehner and Dick Cheney use, made available to all americans. It seems to work well for Dick and the Boner. I don't see them complaining about it.