soccer OT

The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.


And in football, unlike soccer, scoring actually happens.
 
108 minutes for 3 goals = 36 minutes of back and forth for 1 goal
 
The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.

And again, because the games are played so differently, such a comparison is almost meaningless. What is done in football for the act of "moving the ball across a line" is very different from what is done in soccer, both in how the ball gets there and what must be done for moving it across the line to count as a score.
 
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Plus football is so 20th century and soccer is cutting edge. :5_1_12024:


Say what?


I said, "football is so 20th century and soccer is cutting edge."

For example, the top selling appeal and footwear is the athleisure category.

This category is based around the soccer influence. The Nigeria and USA soccer jerseys can't be had for example.

I am sure you are TOTALLY clueless to what I am even talking about but business is business and fact is fact.

(although I am sure you have some made up, "alternative fact."
 
The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.


And in football, unlike soccer, scoring actually happens.
And yet there were people whining about a 13-0 game score.
 
The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.


And in football, unlike soccer, scoring actually happens.
And yet there were people whining about a 13-0 game score.

To be fair, I think most of the complaints were about the celebration of later goals in the 13-0 game.
 
The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.

And again, because the games are played so differently, such a comparison is almost meaningless. What is done in football for the act of "moving the ball across a line" is very different from what is done in soccer, both in how the ball gets there and what must be done for moving it across the line to count as a score.

If they have 6 points for a goal in soccer, you’d see fewer morons complaining about the low scores even though an 18-12 match had just as much scoring as a 3-2 match
 
..so AUS vs NOR they played an hour and a half with only 2 goals-- game tied
now they are playing 30 more minutes game still tied
!!!!!
this is STUPID
why don't they play ANOTHER 90 minutes??!!
they should do like NHL and take 2 or 3 players off each team for OT

I believe it would have something to do with endurance. In high level soccer, you’re allowed 3 substitutes; that’s it. Usually, one is reserved by smart coaches for injuries because if you’ve subbed 3 times and then you have an injury…you play with 10 players.

Usually (not sure about WWC) there are two 30 minute periods followed by PK’s if memory serves.

The idea of taking 2 or 3 players off is, well, dumb.
works in the NHL

Play 9v9 or less in overtime on a field that size when players are already exhausted? I don't think that would work well. Extra overtime then P-kicks seems to be the best way.
 
The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.

And again, because the games are played so differently, such a comparison is almost meaningless. What is done in football for the act of "moving the ball across a line" is very different from what is done in soccer, both in how the ball gets there and what must be done for moving it across the line to count as a score.

If they have 6 points for a goal in soccer, you’d see fewer morons complaining about the low scores even though an 18-12 match had just as much scoring as a 3-2 match

Well, since soccer games are 90 minutes rather than the 60 of football, a football game with 5 TDs would have more scoring per minute than a soccer game with 5 goals. ;)
 
The truly hilarious thing about this entire argument is that there is almost as much goal scoring in Soccer as there is American Football—if you eliminate the field goal and the extra point which are fine for American Football (which I used to eat, sleep and breathe—not so much now that we can’t decide what a catch is).

The difference is that the Americans award 6 points for getting the ball passed a line and Soccer does the logical thing…awards one point for crossing the line. Soccer doesn’t forgive half successes by allowing someone to kick the ball from near mid field and score points that way. Its not cheating that American Football does this—that is the rules of the game. It does, however, cheapen the touchdowns by having 2 field goals equal a touch down. You can win a game without never getting the ball passed the goal line.

Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.

And again, because the games are played so differently, such a comparison is almost meaningless. What is done in football for the act of "moving the ball across a line" is very different from what is done in soccer, both in how the ball gets there and what must be done for moving it across the line to count as a score.

If they have 6 points for a goal in soccer, you’d see fewer morons complaining about the low scores even though an 18-12 match had just as much scoring as a 3-2 match

Well, since soccer games are 90 minutes rather than the 60 of football, a football game with 5 TDs would have more scoring per minute than a soccer game with 5 goals. ;)

Thats true.

The biggest problem I have with American Football currently is the “official reviews” (the replay rules) where every single play is reviewed. Soccer has it right (for the most part) and especially the EPL. 90 minutes of soccer is about 90 minutes of soccer. There is no downtime. And I’ve grown (it was a long process) to really admire what these people can do with their feet. Hearing the OP chastise the sport for low scoring is close to the most ignorant thing ever.
 
Scoring a goal is very different from scoring a touchdown. It's not really a good direct comparison. Soccer, hockey, even basketball can be much better compared. Football is played so much differently than those sports that direct comparisons often fail.

The comparison is how the NFL awards 6 points for moving the ball across a line. Soccer awards one goal for the same act.

And again, because the games are played so differently, such a comparison is almost meaningless. What is done in football for the act of "moving the ball across a line" is very different from what is done in soccer, both in how the ball gets there and what must be done for moving it across the line to count as a score.

If they have 6 points for a goal in soccer, you’d see fewer morons complaining about the low scores even though an 18-12 match had just as much scoring as a 3-2 match

Well, since soccer games are 90 minutes rather than the 60 of football, a football game with 5 TDs would have more scoring per minute than a soccer game with 5 goals. ;)

Thats true.

The biggest problem I have with American Football currently is the “official reviews” (the replay rules) where every single play is reviewed. Soccer has it right (for the most part) and especially the EPL. 90 minutes of soccer is about 90 minutes of soccer. There is no downtime. And I’ve grown (it was a long process) to really admire what these people can do with their feet. Hearing the OP chastise the sport for low scoring is close to the most ignorant thing ever.

There's downtime in soccer, just not in the same way as timed American sports. The clock doesn't stop, but play does on many occasions. It's a lot less than in football, of course. Hockey and basketball are similar to soccer in the sense that 60 minutes of hockey is largely 60 minutes of hockey, or 48 minutes of basketball is largely 48 minutes of basketball.

As far as scoring, the OP isn't ignorant for saying soccer is low scoring. It is. The Premier League averaged 2.68 goals per game in 2018. MLB averaged 8.9 runs per game that same year. The NHL averaged 3.01 goals per game that year. And the NFL averaged 2.68 touchdowns and 1.57 field goals per game the same year. The NBA, obviously, had far more scoring than any of them. :p But Premier League soccer had less scoring than all 4 of the major American sports leagues.

My Football Facts & Stats | Premier League | Goal Statistics 1992-93 to 2017-18
Major League Baseball Miscellaneous Year-by-Year Averages and Totals | Baseball-Reference.com
NHL League Averages | Hockey-Reference.com
NFL Season By Season Scoring Summary | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Just a quick note: MLS had more scoring than Premier League in 2018, at 3.19 goals per game. That was more than the NHL.

USA - MLS table, stats, form and results | SoccerSTATS.com - historical 2018
 

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