So...You Believe America is "Still Here"???

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The result of the better part of a century of Leftist propaganda has produced Americans who believe this:
"...communism has died away and our way of govt. is still here.....
Thank you FDR and the other world leaders for your triumph ..."
This, an actual post, from yesterday.





No....our way of government is long gone...if 'our government' refers to the United States as defined by the Constitution.

Leftist dupes have accepted exactly what totalitarians were selling....hate of success, individual liberty, business, profits, big government in control of every aspect of one's life.

The following is designed to give proof of this, and insight into FDR's thinking, and his plans.





1. Professor Paul Kengor writes, in " Dupes: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century," "The progressive left, and the liberal left, while not themselves communists, share many of the same sympathies, such of redistribution of wealth, and worker’s rights, nationalizations of industry, etc, but are not quite as far left as the communists, and would not go to the same lengths as the communists to achieve their goals. This does not mean, though, that the help of these dupes is not necessary in order for the communists to achieve victory.

a. And, in "Witness," Whittaker Chambers, former communist spy, notes that liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs.

b. Based on the above analysis, it seems that identifying one as a Liberal, or progressive rather than a communist, is a distinction without a difference. That is what I saw in the post that I quoted.


2. Are the values, the policies above 'American' values? Redistribution? Nationalization?
Or...are they from....somewhere else?
How did they gain more than acceptance....predominance in some precincts?
While they were popular in university dining rooms and seminars for a century, it took the crisis of the Depression for them to be imposed, inserted into the American system.






3. One of the policy advisers recruited by FDR was a young economics professor, Rexford Tugwell. He became part of FDR's 'BrainTrust' even before FDR became President. He had all the requirements: doctorate from Columbia University, fervent admirer of the man who re-branded 'socialist' as 'liberal,' John Dewey, and devotee of big government central planning.

a. FDR was an egomaniac, very much like our current President....neither of whom takes on alternative views to his own, to learn from them.


4. FDR selected Tugwell for a reason: they both had the same views. Tugwell admired what was known as "the Soviet experiment." In 1927, Rexford Guy Tugwell and Paul Douglas, who would become two of America's leading New Deal economists, expressed their awe at the Soviet “experiment.” Said Tugwell, “There is a new life beginning there.” Progressive Support for Russia's Bolshevik Revolution - Discover the Networks

The ideas contained included putting government in total control of the economy, production controls, price controls, profit controls, everything. To a large degree, it has been accomplished.
Yet, intelligent folks say "communism has died away and our way of govt. is still here....."




5. In 1931, Tugwell predicted "Business will be logically required to disappear." Ciepley, "Liberalism in the Shadow of Totalitarianism," p. 76.

Pretty much a one sentence definition of Marxism.

a. The plan: the abolition of the free market:
"Tugwell Sees End of Laissez Faire," NYTimes, February 16, 1934, and 147. Rexford Guy Tugwell (1891-1979). Respectfully Quoted: A Dictionary of Quotations. 1989





6. FDR endorsed Tugwell's ideas...but at that time America was still America. Unlike today, yelling "I'm a Communist" would not have been a good idea....
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a. "[Harry] Hopkins [FDR's live-in adviser] tried to persuade Roosevelt to articulate a New Deal philosophy along Tugwell's lines, but the President was reluctant."
George McJimsey, " Harry Hopkins: Ally of the Poor and Defender of Democracy," p. 74-75

b. "No wonder. Congressional elections were coming up and the president didn't want to blow them by going completely Bolshevik. Better, I'm thinking, to preserve a good-cop (FDR), bad-cop (Tugwell) deniability."
Diana West, "American Betrayal," p. 144.





And while Lenin read a book on Marx
A quartet practiced in the park
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died
Now the halftime air was sweet perfume
While the sergeants played a marching tune
We all got up to dance
Oh, but we never got the chance
Don Mclean, "American Pie"

More accurately...the day the Constitution died.




So, no, my Leftist friend, our way of government is not 'still here'....
...not if it once included liberty, freedom, values like responsibility, and success.



Left, Right, Left, Right, Left......
 
America was hijacked in 1913 by the Federal Reserve Act then again about 1947 with the DOD Act. The Constitution hasn't counted for much since then.

But what happens when you bring up America's Political and Social decay? You get called "unpatriotic" or that you "don't support the Troops".

Listen, when the Corporate Bankers that control this country are done transferring all the jobs, wealth and power overseas, and then load up our budget with massive debt that can NEVER be repaid the Economy is gonna' implode.

And when it does the Politicians in DC are gonna' wanna' implement Martial Law. And if Americans let them do that we'll NEVER have a chance at Freedom again.

When the Corporatists and Bankers are done giving America a good a** raping and leave, Americans need to re-establish Constitutional Law and Nationalize the Federal Reserve Bank. America without a Constitution is just another Banana Republic.

We ALL can start doing that NOW at a local, city, town level.
 
has anyone actually recognized their own country since late 2008? especially when u compare it to the good old days of the 80's/90's that flourished because of republican policies?
 
PC's citations of opinion pieces are entertaining. If I had as much free time as PC (she is undoubtedly one of the many non-working right wingers), I might find a fistfull of opinion pieces that compare American conservatives to fascists. I'm sure there's plenty of them.

For me,

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution, take a bow for the new revolution
 
There are days when I want to say that the Socialists in the Country have won and all we are doing is delaying the inevitable slide into full blown Socialism/Marxism/Communism.

When we have politicians who can get up and say that there is plenty of money, it's just that the Government hasn't taken it all yet, and get away with such a statement without public uproar from 75% of the country.. When bribing Congresscritters with public funds becomes acceptable behavior to pass legislation... When there are Cities and even States considering allowing non-citizens to vote in "Local" elections... When the people of the country seem to want to reward those who entered the country illegally with citizenship...

To me those are signs that the country is lost.
 
I've been around since 1950.

If anything, life has gotten better.

I've been around since the 70's...no complaints. At it's worst, America is still the best. You'll note that none of the sourpusses under Obama or Bush for that matter left this "terrible" place.
 
I've been around since 1950.

If anything, life has gotten better.

I've been around since the 70's...no complaints. At it's worst, America is still the best. You'll note that none of the sourpusses under Obama or Bush for that matter left this "terrible" place.

except "this place" was exponentially better under Bush.
 
I've been around since 1950.

If anything, life has gotten better.

I've been around since the 70's...no complaints. At it's worst, America is still the best. You'll note that none of the sourpusses under Obama or Bush for that matter left this "terrible" place.

except "this place" was exponentially better under Bush.

Not really; we had soldiers coming home in boxes, banks ran by millionaires who needed emergency releif so they could pay some of their millionaire subordinates their bonues as it turns out, we rejected science in favor of religious theory etc...

Now those same banks are still too big to fail and we have a president who seems unwilling to use his office for extraordinary purposes during extraordinary times. Bush wouldn't have fixed either problem anyway.
 
The middle class has been in demise since the onset of "supply side economics" under the Reagan regime.
 
PC's citations of opinion pieces are entertaining. If I had as much free time as PC (she is undoubtedly one of the many non-working right wingers), I might find a fistfull of opinion pieces that compare American conservatives to fascists. I'm sure there's plenty of them.

For me,

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution, take a bow for the new revolution





1. " If I had as much free time as PC (she is undoubtedly one of the many non-working right wingers),..."

Now....don't hate me just because I hit the Powerball lottery.

Anyway, I have a job: I sit around being fantastic all day.




2. " I might find a fistfull of opinion pieces that compare American conservatives to fascists."
Now...how is that possible- fascists and communists as well as Liberals and Progressives are all on the same side of the political spectrum.

Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred.

A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010
Nazi...national socialism....based on nationalism and/or race... Communism....international socialism.
 
who would ever thought we would be living in a time where if anyone types "Very Peculiar Words" into the internet we would automatically be under liberal investigation.


Welcome to the board, Richie....


If you'll allow....I had a similar thought:
I never thought we be living in an America where the IRS would be monitoring groups simply because they had the word "Patriot" in their name.
 

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