So What Was the Logic of Forcing People to Get the Shot Against People’s Will?

[eagle1462010]

You started out spelling Fuck real good and then you lost it, home school.

Small phone big finger issue

 

[Fueri]

Weak minded fools got scared into compliance, then wanted everyone to comply.

The CDC did their bit with scare tactics, as they have been for nearly 2 decades, to push the vaccines and the FDA did their shill-best to get their sponsors' products approved - and it was deemed 'science'

People stopped thinking and blindly trusted the government. They were scared, and pushed further by the government's orchestrated tactics to terrify them further. And it worked. This was an utterly disgraceful period in our country's history, and it was all due to the fact that people's ability to think critically, and for themselves, seems to be largely gone.

Anyone with an IQ greater than that of a tomato armed with the most basic statistical analysis capabily could see we were being run. And it happened anyhow.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Reasonable to tell all my employees they must attend church once a week.

Sure, why not?
Just as long as they're on the clock.

It’s a violation of the US Constitution, Dufus.

Not a direct violation of the Constitution, but a violation of anti-discrimination laws that have a solid Constitutional basis.

Employers are not allowed to discriminate or harass employees on the basis of certain criteria, including religion. Compelling an employee to participate in a religious activity that is contrary to that employee's own religious beliefs would be a violation.

By the same laws, and by some other laws pertaining to medical privacy, it is equally illegal (if not more so) for employers to compel employees to participate as test subjects in dangerous medical experiments, or to discriminate against employees for declining to do so. Until such time (which I predict will never occur) that this dangerous experimental mRNA shit achieved proper FDA approval for general use, compelling any employee to take it, or discriminating against any employee for declining to take it, is absolutely illegal.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Not a direct violation of the Constitution, but a violation of anti-discrimination laws that have a solid Constitutional basis.

Employers are not allowed to discriminate or harass employees on the basis of certain criteria, including religion. Compelling an employee to participate in a religious activity that is contrary to that employee's own religious beliefs would be a violation.

By the same laws, and by some other laws pertaining to medical privacy, it is equally illegal (if not more so) for employers to compel employees to participate as test subjects in dangerous medical experiments, or to discriminate against employees for declining to do so. Until such time (which I predict will never occur) that this dangerous experimental mRNA shit achieved proper FDA approval for general use, compelling any employee to take it, or discriminating against any employee for declining to take it, is absolutely illegal.

Nor can employers discriminate on the basis of medical conditions……

 

[Bob Blaylock]

The CDC did their bit with scare tactics, as they have been for nearly 2 decades, to push the vaccines and the FDA did their shill-best to get their sponsors' products approved - and it was deemed 'science'

I'm in almost complete agreement, with you, except on one point.

Genuine vaccination is based on sound science; and has brought about tremendous benefits to humanity. We've almost completely rendered smallpox extinct, and rendered many other disease nearly extinct, that once were common. Many diseases that still remain common, we've managed to greatly mitigate.

This new, dangerous, experimental mRNA shit, is •NOT• the same thing as a genuine vaccine. The science behind it is dubious, at best, and the empirical data that are coming out from its use seem to be clearly casting serious doubts on both its safety and its efficacy. I do not know what motives there are behind the way it has been pushed on us, but very clearly, they are not good motives.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I'm in almost complete agreement, with you, except on one point.

Genuine vaccination is based on sound science; and has brought about tremendous benefits to humanity. We've almost completely rendered smallpox extinct, and rendered many other disease nearly extinct, that once were common. Many diseases that still remain common, we've managed to greatly mitigate.

This new, dangerous, experimental mRNA shit, is •NOT• the same thing as a genuine vaccine. The science behind it is dubious, at best, and the empirical data that are coming out from its use seem to be clearly casting serious doubts on both its safety and its efficacy. I do not know what motives there are behind the way it has been pushed on us, but very clearly, they are not good motives.

There’s good reason why the swamp creatures won’t let Big Pharma be sued over the clot shot.

 

[Fueri]

I'm in almost complete agreement, with you, except on one point.

Genuine vaccination is based on sound science; and has brought about tremendous benefits to humanity. We've almost completely rendered smallpox extinct, and rendered many other disease nearly extinct, that once were common. Many diseases that still remain common, we've managed to greatly mitigate.

This new, dangerous, experimental mRNA shit, is •NOT• the same thing as a genuine vaccine. The science behind it is dubious, at best, and the empirical data that are coming out from its use seem to be clearly casting serious doubts on both its safety and its efficacy. I do not know what motives there are behind the way it has been pushed on us, but very clearly, they are not good motives.

I don't disagree with any of that.

My point was the methodology used to push the covid shots.

In 2004 The CDC developed a "Seven-Step 'Recipe' for Generating Interest in, and Demand for, Flu (or any other) Vaccination,"

First thing they they did back then was massively pump flu death numbers to exaggerate the danger, then they implemented a fear campaign. They did all of the same with covid.

Some of the elements (from the CDC slideshow)

"Medical experts and public health authorities [should] publicly (e.g. via media) state concern and alarm (and predict dire outcomes) - and urge influenza vaccination." This recipe, his slide show indicated, would result in "Significant media interest and attention ... in terms that motivate behavior (e.g. as 'very severe,' 'more severe than last or past years,' 'deadly')." Other emotive recommendations included fostering "the perception that many people are susceptible to a bad case of influenza" and "Visible/tangible examples of the seriousness of the illness (e.g., pictures of children, families of those affected coming forward) and people getting vaccinated (the first to motivate, the latter to reinforce)."

Full presentation available for download here:

Seven-Step Recipe for Generating Interest in, and Demand for, Flu (or any other) Vaccination

Glen Nowak, then-acting director of media relations at the CDC. Nowak gave the presentation at the National Influenza Vaccine Summit in 2004, co-sponsored by the CDC and the American Medical Associ…

vaccinationinfo.wordpress.com

They've been stoking the fear to push shots for years and just followed the same playbook with covid. Problem this time around is that it spun way out of control and broke people.

The truth is always better. Unfortunately, the CDC abandoned that many years ago, opted instead to go with an end justifies the means approach, effectively granting themselves license to dictate and manipulate the truth to tell people whatever they'd like if they decide it is for their own good, ie, lie, and the result here was/is utter disaster.

 

[Smokin' OP]

So now you change your tune.

Topic is companies FORCING EMPLOYEES TO UNDERGO MEDICAL PROCEDURES

WTF?
So, now you change YOUR tune?

"Good point! Reasonable to tell all my employees they must attend church once a week".
"Glad to know Budweiser can force all its employees to attend satanic ritual training 60 hours a week".

When it's convenient.

 

[Smokin' OP]

There’s good reason why the swamp creatures won’t let Big Pharma be sued over the clot shot.

Yep, republicans protecting corporations, as usual.

In February, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar invoked the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act. The 2005 law empowers the HHS secretary to provide legal protection to companies making or distributing critical medical supplies, such as vaccines and treatments, unless there’s “willful misconduct” by the company. The protection lasts until 2024.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Yep, republicans protecting corporations, as usual.

In February, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar invoked the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act. The 2005 law empowers the HHS secretary to provide legal protection to companies making or distributing critical medical supplies, such as vaccines and treatments, unless there’s “willful misconduct” by the company. The protection lasts until 2024.

I had no idea Republicans had a supermajority in 21

 

[Smokin' OP]

I had no idea Republicans had a supermajority in 21

WTF?
"There’s good reason why the swamp creatures won’t let Big Pharma be sued over the clot shot".

Senate Republicans Reject Cloture to Proceed to Medicare ...​

The Commonwealth Fund
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Bill would reduce prescription drug prices, too bad GOP is ...​

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Dec 6, 2019 — And after giving billions in tax breaks to the biggest drug companies last year, Republicans voted against Medicare drug price negotiations in ...

Senate Republican bill would repeal Democratic drug ...​

The Hill
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Oct 7, 2022 — Senate Republicans on Friday introduced a bill that would roll back the drug pricing reforms included in the sweeping Inflation Reduction ...

 

[Weatherman2020]

WTF?
"There’s good reason why the swamp creatures won’t let Big Pharma be sued over the clot shot".

Senate Republicans Reject Cloture to Proceed to Medicare ...​

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Bill would reduce prescription drug prices, too bad GOP is ...​

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Senate Republican bill would repeal Democratic drug ...​

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Oct 7, 2022 — Senate Republicans on Friday introduced a bill that would roll back the drug pricing reforms included in the sweeping Inflation Reduction ...

Funny, every Republican voted against Obamacare.

Democrats ignored it and passed it.

Selective outrage.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Funny, every Republican voted against Obamacare.

That's true and every republican said they had a better plan too.
The same old plan..........private, for-profit insurance.
Where profits are king, like prescription drugs.

Democrats ignored it and passed it.

So?
Teabaggers do that with corporate tax cuts.

Selective outrage.

 

[Weatherman2020]

That's true and every republican said they had a better plan too.
The same old plan..........private, for-profit insurance.
Where profits are king, like prescription drugs.

So?
Teabaggers do that with corporate tax cuts.

You keep on demanding that the government conduct medical tests on people against their will.

You validate you’re no better than the NAZIS.

 

[Smokin' OP]

You keep on demanding that the government conduct medical tests on people against their will.

You're FOS.
The government doesn't do that to people, against their will.

You validate you’re no better than the NAZIS.

You're projecting again.

 

[HeyNorm]

You're FOS.
The government doesn't do that to people, against their will.

You're projecting again.

Because some never made it past 4th grade:

What Is Coercion Law? - FindLaw

Coercion involves the use of threats or intimidation. Learn about coercion laws and more at FindLaw's Criminal Charges section.

www.findlaw.com

Coercion is force.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Because some never made it past 4th grade:

It would seem so.

What Is Coercion Law? - FindLaw

Coercion involves the use of threats or intimidation. Learn about coercion laws and more at FindLaw's Criminal Charges section.

www.findlaw.com

Coercion is force.

No, it isn't, not for a shot.
Who filed a coercion claim against any government?

 

[Weatherman2020]

You're FOS.
The government doesn't do that to people, against their will.

You're projecting again.

Bullshit. Tell that to the blacks in Tuskegee the government experimented on.

There’s good reason the government will not let the victims of the clot shot sue.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Bullshit. Tell that to the blacks in Tuskegee the government experimented on.

Oh' well...........THEY were black and that experiment didn't include a shot.

There’s good reason the government will not let the victims of the clot shot sue.

That's true.
Thanks republicans.

Bush seeking to protect vaccine manufacturers from lawsuits​

SouthCoastToday.com
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Nov 2, 2005 — WASHINGTON -- President Bush said Tuesday that granting vaccine manufacturers protection from civil lawsuits would go a long way to spur the ...


Except for willful misconduct, a covered person is immune from lawsuits and liability under federal and state law with respect to all claims for loss resulting from the administration or use of a covered countermeasure, such as a COVID-19 vaccine, if they meet criteria stated in a declaration under the PREP Act issued ...

PREP Act Immunity from Liability for COVID-19 Vaccinators​

 

[HeyNorm]

It would seem so.



No, it isn't, not for a shot.
Who filed a coercion claim against any government?

^^^^^ what nonsense