CDZ So what happens when we hit 'Peak Oil' ???

something else will take it's place, and we will learn how to live with it, if it is limited or not as efficient, we will find a way to make it more efficient...

We are man/woman....we will survive! ;)
 
What makes you think oil is going anywhere?

We can even manufacture oil. It is not simply going to disappear. We will find an alternative long before that.
 
What makes you think oil is going anywhere?

We can even manufacture oil. It is not simply going to disappear. We will find an alternative long before that.

1) Where does oil come from?

2) How much energy does it take to manufacture oil?

1 - clarify your intent with this question. We are all well aware of where oil comes from.

2 - more than it takes to pull it out of the ground and less than you get from it. While the process is a net gain, it is more expensive than mining and that is why you don't see large operations doing this. It is not cost efficient and will not be until pulling it from the ground becomes much more difficult. By then, most uses for oil are likely to be replaced though.
 
What makes you think oil is going anywhere?

We can even manufacture oil. It is not simply going to disappear. We will find an alternative long before that.

1) Where does oil come from?

2) How much energy does it take to manufacture oil?

1 - clarify your intent with this question. We are all well aware of where oil comes from.

2 - more than it takes to pull it out of the ground and less than you get from it. While the process is a net gain, it is more expensive than mining and that is why you don't see large operations doing this. It is not cost efficient and will not be until pulling it from the ground becomes much more difficult. By then, most uses for oil are likely to be replaced though.

Do you think this finite earth contains an infinite quantity of oil, or enough oil to sustain 7 to 12 billion people for the next 100 years?
 
Peak oil?

What's that?

It's a very credible and expected crisis concerning oil production.

Too bad so many leftists, socialists and other marxist trash have rallied around this impending crisis as a means to use draconian measures to control the world population.

No amount of Communism will save us from this, best to let it happen (as it will anyway) and keep government out of it.

The question is what does civilization look like after oil? How do we restart?
 
What makes you think oil is going anywhere?

We can even manufacture oil. It is not simply going to disappear. We will find an alternative long before that.

1) Where does oil come from?

2) How much energy does it take to manufacture oil?

1 - clarify your intent with this question. We are all well aware of where oil comes from.

2 - more than it takes to pull it out of the ground and less than you get from it. While the process is a net gain, it is more expensive than mining and that is why you don't see large operations doing this. It is not cost efficient and will not be until pulling it from the ground becomes much more difficult. By then, most uses for oil are likely to be replaced though.

Do you think this finite earth contains an infinite quantity of oil, or enough oil to sustain 7 to 12 billion people for the next 100 years?
Is there a finite amount of trees? Are there enough trees to sustain the paper usage of 7 billion people? That would depend on how many we grow not wouldn't it?

The amount of oil that we have is a function of time. IOW, oil is not necessarily finite in that it is a product but there is a finite amount of oil at any given time. Is there enough to sustain 7 billion people for 100 years? That would depend on consumption and, as I stated earlier, production. It is a silly notion that oil is going to be the top energy source in 100 years as well. We already have alternatives that have merit. There will likely be entirely new energy sources in the next 100 years. We have only been trying to harness fusion for a short 50 years - in another 100 it is likely that we will be able to.

Technology is moving very fast in today's world and energy is chief among the concerns that everyone wants to address. I have no doubt that the energy infrastructure will be a very different place in the coming decades.
 
to 12 billion people for the next 100 years?
Is there a finite amount of trees? Are there enough trees to sustain the paper usage of 7 billion people? That would depend on how many we grow not wouldn't it?

The amount of oil that we have is a function of time.

We have only been trying to harness fusion for a short 50 years - in another 100 it is likely that we will be able to.[/QUOTE]

1) You can't grow oil. Ethanol is as close as you get and producing it is inefficient.

2) Yes it's a function of time...over tens of millions of years.

3) lol fusion
 
Is there a finite amount of trees? Are there enough trees to sustain the paper usage of 7 billion people? That would depend on how many we grow not wouldn't it?

The amount of oil that we have is a function of time.

We have only been trying to harness fusion for a short 50 years - in another 100 it is likely that we will be able to.

1) You can't grow oil. Ethanol is as close as you get and producing it is inefficient.

2) Yes it's a function of time...over tens of millions of years.

3) lol fusion
No, you don't grow it, you PRODUCE it. So does the earth.

Tens of millions of years is a process that has been going on for.... tens of millions of years.
 
More than 90% of mankind's population is only here because of oil (check global population growth over the last 100 years), what happens when the oil is gone?
I dunno. Not going to happen during our kids kids kids kids lifetimes at best.
 
More than 90% of mankind's population is only here because of oil (check global population growth over the last 100 years), what happens when the oil is gone?

Peak oil isn't the last drop of oil we are capable of extracting. It has to do with the cost of extraction. Once we pass through peak oil, it just means that it will get increasingly expensive to produce because we have drained the easy to reach/process stuff. Prices will always go up from that point forward.
 
I love hearing Learjet liberals worrying about peak oil. What is peak oil?

  1. the hypothetical point in time when the global production of oil reaches its maximum rate, after which production will gradually decline.

Keyword: hypothetical. That means it's not real. Why isn't it real? Because in order to know when you've hit peak, you must know how much you have. We have no idea how much oil is in the ground. I think we will have multiple "peaks" and drops as technology changes. 20 years ago, "peak oil" wouldn't have included anything from fracking because nobody knew what it was, or at the very least, it had yet to be implemented. What other technologies will we have in 20 years? Who knows?

But with oil at 40 bucks a barrel because of massive supply, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just keep flying around in your private jets telling everyone to eat lettuce and drive golf carts.
 
Likely population will drop considerably. One can consider a new study that shows data during the past four decades in light of forecasts made in Limits to Growth.
 
Peak oil is simply the point at which the costs of producing the oil exceed the amount that people can or are willing to pay for that oil. And, as 2nd stated, it is inevitable. It may come about because of a lack of affordable oil, or because of developments like the EV, but it is inevitable.
 
Peak oil is simply the point at which the costs of producing the oil exceed the amount that people can or are willing to pay for that oil. And, as 2nd stated, it is inevitable. It may come about because of a lack of affordable oil, or because of developments like the EV, but it is inevitable.
In which case the question of 'what will happen' is completely moot as essentially nothing will happen.
 
Peak oil is simply the point at which the costs of producing the oil exceed the amount that people can or are willing to pay for that oil. And, as 2nd stated, it is inevitable. It may come about because of a lack of affordable oil, or because of developments like the EV, but it is inevitable.

Actually, it refers to a maximum rate of production. The point when it peaks may be influenced by what you pointed out or by other factors.
 

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