So, I Guess Mishandling Classified Materials Isn't a Big Deal Anymore

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So, I Guess Mishandling Classified Materials Isn't a Big Deal Anymore​

So, I Guess Mishandling Classified Materials Isn't a Big Deal Anymore

townhall.com

11 Apr 2023 ~~ By Matt Vespa

The Biden White House is scrambling to conduct damage control as troves of classified materials about Russia and Ukraine were leaked online. Spokesperson John Kirby pleaded with the media not to cover these materials. That wasn’t heeded. But the overarching issue is mishandling classified materials and related leaks, which the liberal media tried to weaponize against Donald Trump when they raided Mar-a-Lago last summer. Then Joe Biden got caught leaving state secrets at multiple locations, including his Wilmington residence. The story met a quick death in the press and a slow-walking Department of Justice investigation that allegedly hung on the word of Biden’s personal attorneys. The endless cycle about classified materials, leaks, and their related dangers, all hyperbole, saturated the media to the point where we might have one that could impact national security, and no one cares (via The Guardian) [emphasis mine]:
~Snip~
The truth may be more worrying for the US and its allies than a Russian hack. The Washington Post cited a defence official as saying that many of the documents appear to have been put together over the winter for Gen Mark Milley, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, and other top military leaders, but they were available to other US personnel and contractors with the right security clearances.
~Snip~
According to the most recent figures published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, there were 1.25 million people with clearance and access to read top secret material in the US government in 2019. The figures have not been made public since then, but nothing suggests they have significantly diminished. The Pentagon has said it is reviewing its access policy.

Numbers that big make it almost a statistical certainty that, at some point, incredibly damaging top secret material will fall into the hands of someone willing to leak it, perhaps for ideological reasons, like Edward Snowden, in the case of his revelation of US mass surveillance.
~Snip~
So, given the Left’s rules set post-Trump raid, will the FBI pay a visit to these 1.25 million people who have access to sensitive materials? Of course, that’s not going to happen, but it highlights once again how anything Trump-related is treated as an unprecedented event when it’s not. The Left’s myopia for most of their attacks on the former president has been nothing short of stunning, almost comical. The allegations of Trump mishandling classified materials were treated as an unprecedented event until Biden’s state secret snafu, which suddenly led to multiple stories about how everyone in DC leaked these documents since the Kennedy presidency. The number of times the liberal media has cried wolf has led to multiple flocks of sheep being slaughtered.


Commentary:
It would have been fine under President Hillary, it should be fine under Joe Biden.
According to John Kirby its no bi deal...
In all of the articles about this I haven’t heard one word about investigating and finding out who “leaked” the documents. Maybe I missed it but no one in the Biden administration seems to be in the least bit concerned about the leaks. No harshly worded promises to “get to the bottom of it.”
I'm sure that They'll appoint one of their chosen transgender geniuses to get to the bottom of this.

 

[Captain Caveman]

So, I Guess Mishandling Classified Materials Isn't a Big Deal Anymore​

So, I Guess Mishandling Classified Materials Isn't a Big Deal Anymore

townhall.com

11 Apr 2023 ~~ By Matt Vespa

The Biden White House is scrambling to conduct damage control as troves of classified materials about Russia and Ukraine were leaked online. Spokesperson John Kirby pleaded with the media not to cover these materials. That wasn’t heeded. But the overarching issue is mishandling classified materials and related leaks, which the liberal media tried to weaponize against Donald Trump when they raided Mar-a-Lago last summer. Then Joe Biden got caught leaving state secrets at multiple locations, including his Wilmington residence. The story met a quick death in the press and a slow-walking Department of Justice investigation that allegedly hung on the word of Biden’s personal attorneys. The endless cycle about classified materials, leaks, and their related dangers, all hyperbole, saturated the media to the point where we might have one that could impact national security, and no one cares (via The Guardian) [emphasis mine]:
~Snip~
The truth may be more worrying for the US and its allies than a Russian hack. The Washington Post cited a defence official as saying that many of the documents appear to have been put together over the winter for Gen Mark Milley, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, and other top military leaders, but they were available to other US personnel and contractors with the right security clearances.
~Snip~
According to the most recent figures published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, there were 1.25 million people with clearance and access to read top secret material in the US government in 2019. The figures have not been made public since then, but nothing suggests they have significantly diminished. The Pentagon has said it is reviewing its access policy.

Numbers that big make it almost a statistical certainty that, at some point, incredibly damaging top secret material will fall into the hands of someone willing to leak it, perhaps for ideological reasons, like Edward Snowden, in the case of his revelation of US mass surveillance.
~Snip~
So, given the Left’s rules set post-Trump raid, will the FBI pay a visit to these 1.25 million people who have access to sensitive materials? Of course, that’s not going to happen, but it highlights once again how anything Trump-related is treated as an unprecedented event when it’s not. The Left’s myopia for most of their attacks on the former president has been nothing short of stunning, almost comical. The allegations of Trump mishandling classified materials were treated as an unprecedented event until Biden’s state secret snafu, which suddenly led to multiple stories about how everyone in DC leaked these documents since the Kennedy presidency. The number of times the liberal media has cried wolf has led to multiple flocks of sheep being slaughtered.


Commentary:
It would have been fine under President Hillary, it should be fine under Joe Biden.
According to John Kirby its no bi deal...
In all of the articles about this I haven’t heard one word about investigating and finding out who “leaked” the documents. Maybe I missed it but no one in the Biden administration seems to be in the least bit concerned about the leaks. No harshly worded promises to “get to the bottom of it.”
I'm sure that They'll appoint one of their chosen transgender geniuses to get to the bottom of this.

Biden and his administration shouldn't feel and act that they're above the law.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Umm,.you know you are purposely confusing "mishandled" with "stolen". Why do this? It harms your credibility. No agency or official can be responsible for foreign spying activities unless they were not practicing their due dilligence in trying to protect such documents. There is nothing to suggest that Biden had ANY role in this. Please guys, the stakes are high, let's not play extreme partisan politics 24/7.

 

[JGalt]

Hillary Clinton set the precedence for mishandling classified documents. She wasn't prosecuted because the DOJ ruled "she didn't intend to."

 

[mak2]

Apparently someone took a camera of some sort into a skif. Someone way up the food chain of classified material is a traitor.

 

[Lesh]

Umm,.you know you are purposely confusing "mishandled" with "stolen". Why do this? It harms your credibility. No agency or official can be responsible for foreign spying activities unless they were not practicing their due dilligence in trying to protect such documents. There is nothing to suggest that Biden had ANY role in this. Please guys, the stakes are high, let's not play extreme partisan politics 24/7.

Everything is political to these creeps.

Everything I read indicates that the Biden Asmkn is taking this very seriously. It harms the admin and the nation… not to mention Ukraine.

I suspect that the nature of the docs will expose who took them.

 

[mak2]

Everything is political to these creeps.

Everything I read indicates that the Biden Asmkn is taking this very seriously. It harms the admin and the nation… not to mention Ukraine.

I suspect that the nature of the docs will expose who took them.

I have heard on both Fox and MSNBC while there might be a thousand high ranking govt types that would have access it would not be much more than a thousand that would have access to the multiple departments material. I bet they catch this guy.

 

[Independentthinker]

So, I Guess Mishandling Classified Materials Isn't a Big Deal Anymore​

So, I Guess Mishandling Classified Materials Isn't a Big Deal Anymore

townhall.com

11 Apr 2023 ~~ By Matt Vespa

The Biden White House is scrambling to conduct damage control as troves of classified materials about Russia and Ukraine were leaked online. Spokesperson John Kirby pleaded with the media not to cover these materials. That wasn’t heeded. But the overarching issue is mishandling classified materials and related leaks, which the liberal media tried to weaponize against Donald Trump when they raided Mar-a-Lago last summer. Then Joe Biden got caught leaving state secrets at multiple locations, including his Wilmington residence. The story met a quick death in the press and a slow-walking Department of Justice investigation that allegedly hung on the word of Biden’s personal attorneys. The endless cycle about classified materials, leaks, and their related dangers, all hyperbole, saturated the media to the point where we might have one that could impact national security, and no one cares (via The Guardian) [emphasis mine]:
~Snip~
The truth may be more worrying for the US and its allies than a Russian hack. The Washington Post cited a defence official as saying that many of the documents appear to have been put together over the winter for Gen Mark Milley, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, and other top military leaders, but they were available to other US personnel and contractors with the right security clearances.
~Snip~
According to the most recent figures published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, there were 1.25 million people with clearance and access to read top secret material in the US government in 2019. The figures have not been made public since then, but nothing suggests they have significantly diminished. The Pentagon has said it is reviewing its access policy.

Numbers that big make it almost a statistical certainty that, at some point, incredibly damaging top secret material will fall into the hands of someone willing to leak it, perhaps for ideological reasons, like Edward Snowden, in the case of his revelation of US mass surveillance.
~Snip~
So, given the Left’s rules set post-Trump raid, will the FBI pay a visit to these 1.25 million people who have access to sensitive materials? Of course, that’s not going to happen, but it highlights once again how anything Trump-related is treated as an unprecedented event when it’s not. The Left’s myopia for most of their attacks on the former president has been nothing short of stunning, almost comical. The allegations of Trump mishandling classified materials were treated as an unprecedented event until Biden’s state secret snafu, which suddenly led to multiple stories about how everyone in DC leaked these documents since the Kennedy presidency. The number of times the liberal media has cried wolf has led to multiple flocks of sheep being slaughtered.


Commentary:
It would have been fine under President Hillary, it should be fine under Joe Biden.
According to John Kirby its no bi deal...
In all of the articles about this I haven’t heard one word about investigating and finding out who “leaked” the documents. Maybe I missed it but no one in the Biden administration seems to be in the least bit concerned about the leaks. No harshly worded promises to “get to the bottom of it.”
I'm sure that They'll appoint one of their chosen transgender geniuses to get to the bottom of this.

They are too busy going after Trump right now to take on anything new.

 

[multivita-man]

Hillary Clinton set the precedence for mishandling classified documents. She wasn't prosecuted because the DOJ ruled "she didn't intend to."

And because they concluded she wasn't grossly negligent, either. This would typically mean willfully and systemically disregarding security protocol -- much different than what Trump is accused of doing.

 

[multivita-man]

I have heard on both Fox and MSNBC while there might be a thousand high ranking govt types that would have access it would not be much more than a thousand that would have access to the multiple departments material. I bet they catch this guy.

He was easy to catch. Going on Discord and bragging about how he had stolen classified docs...he pretty much snitched on himself, lol.

In a weird way, despite the enormous damage his leaks have caused (at least diplomatically if nothing else), I'm not sure he deserves Aldrich Ames or Robert Hanssen type penalties. Maybe 10 years or so and time off with good behavior, though I kinda suspect the government won't agree with me.

But Ames and Hanssen were two highly knowledgeable, mature adults who made adult decisions to sell state secrets to enrich themselves - both very much deserved the life sentences they got. This is just a punk kid who wanted to impress people on the internet and he probably wouldn't have ever done this if the military had a more secure system of handling its sensitive information.

 

[mak2]

He was easy to catch. Going on Discord and bragging about how he had stolen classified docs...he pretty much snitched on himself, lol.

In a weird way, despite the enormous damage his leaks have caused (at least diplomatically if nothing else), I'm not sure he deserves Aldrich Ames or Robert Hanssen type penalties. Maybe 10 years or so and time off with good behavior, though I kinda suspect the government won't agree with me.

But Ames and Hanssen were two highly knowledgeable, mature adults who made adult decisions to sell state secrets to enrich themselves - both very much deserved the life sentences they got. This is just a punk kid who wanted to impress people on the internet and he probably wouldn't have ever done this if the military had a more secure system of handling its sensitive information.

I am not surprised he was caught so quickly, but I am surprised he was a National guard E3. Maybe there is a problem with classification of documents and access.

 

[multivita-man]

I am not surprised he was caught so quickly, but I am surprised he was a National guard E3. Maybe there is a problem with classification of documents and access.

Yeah, I'm wondering whatever happened to the phrase "need to know". How does some 21-year-old virgin know what the National Security Council is thinking, lol?

 

[mak2]

Yeah, I'm wondering whatever happened to the phrase "need to know". How does some 21-year-old virgin know what the National Security Council is thinking, lol?

Yes, back in the day I could see what I needed to. But nothing else. That is why I could not leave stuff on my desk and go to the head, even in a secured area. Anybody walking by did not need to know what I did.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So, I Guess Mishandling Classified Materials Isn't a Big Deal Anymore​

So, I Guess Mishandling Classified Materials Isn't a Big Deal Anymore

townhall.com

11 Apr 2023 ~~ By Matt Vespa

The Biden White House is scrambling to conduct damage control as troves of classified materials about Russia and Ukraine were leaked online. Spokesperson John Kirby pleaded with the media not to cover these materials. That wasn’t heeded. But the overarching issue is mishandling classified materials and related leaks, which the liberal media tried to weaponize against Donald Trump when they raided Mar-a-Lago last summer. Then Joe Biden got caught leaving state secrets at multiple locations, including his Wilmington residence. The story met a quick death in the press and a slow-walking Department of Justice investigation that allegedly hung on the word of Biden’s personal attorneys. The endless cycle about classified materials, leaks, and their related dangers, all hyperbole, saturated the media to the point where we might have one that could impact national security, and no one cares (via The Guardian) [emphasis mine]:
~Snip~
The truth may be more worrying for the US and its allies than a Russian hack. The Washington Post cited a defence official as saying that many of the documents appear to have been put together over the winter for Gen Mark Milley, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, and other top military leaders, but they were available to other US personnel and contractors with the right security clearances.
~Snip~
According to the most recent figures published by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, there were 1.25 million people with clearance and access to read top secret material in the US government in 2019. The figures have not been made public since then, but nothing suggests they have significantly diminished. The Pentagon has said it is reviewing its access policy.

Numbers that big make it almost a statistical certainty that, at some point, incredibly damaging top secret material will fall into the hands of someone willing to leak it, perhaps for ideological reasons, like Edward Snowden, in the case of his revelation of US mass surveillance.
~Snip~
So, given the Left’s rules set post-Trump raid, will the FBI pay a visit to these 1.25 million people who have access to sensitive materials? Of course, that’s not going to happen, but it highlights once again how anything Trump-related is treated as an unprecedented event when it’s not. The Left’s myopia for most of their attacks on the former president has been nothing short of stunning, almost comical. The allegations of Trump mishandling classified materials were treated as an unprecedented event until Biden’s state secret snafu, which suddenly led to multiple stories about how everyone in DC leaked these documents since the Kennedy presidency. The number of times the liberal media has cried wolf has led to multiple flocks of sheep being slaughtered.


Commentary:
It would have been fine under President Hillary, it should be fine under Joe Biden.
According to John Kirby its no bi deal...
In all of the articles about this I haven’t heard one word about investigating and finding out who “leaked” the documents. Maybe I missed it but no one in the Biden administration seems to be in the least bit concerned about the leaks. No harshly worded promises to “get to the bottom of it.”
I'm sure that They'll appoint one of their chosen transgender geniuses to get to the bottom of this.

Partisan politics. It's okay when my side does it, it's treason when the other side does it.

 

[multivita-man]

Yes, back in the day I could see what I needed to. But nothing else. That is why I could not leave stuff on my desk and go to the head, even in a secured area. Anybody walking by did not need to know what I did.

There's a serious problem with DoD's internal security. Ironically, it's DoD that's now taking over clearances, background investigations, polygraphs, and all that shit. Used to be OPM and individual agencies. Not anymore, or so I understand.

This episode doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the DoD, eh? lol

 

[mak2]

There's a serious problem with DoD's internal security. Ironically, it's DoD that's now taking over clearances, background investigations, polygraphs, and all that shit. Used to be OPM and individual agencies. Not anymore, or so I understand.

This episode doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the DoD, eh? lol

I just don't know what to think, except I don't this this should be partisan. We need to get our intel under control of our intel for our country, not our party.

 

[multivita-man]

I just don't know what to think, except I don't this this should be partisan. We need to get our intel under control of our intel for our country, not our party.

Oh, absolutely. Sorry, didn't mean to suggest I was being partisan about it.

It's absolutely not a partisan thing.

 

[mak2]

Oh, absolutely. Sorry, didn't mean to suggest I was being partisan about it.

It's absolutely not a partisan thing.

Oh I was not talking about you, I was talking about MTG praising the guy.

 

[whitehall]

You got it backwards Doc. Judging by the use of the APC and military clad FBI agents to arrest a N.G. soldier for sharing confidential information with a freaking chat room, it seems that the government takes the issue seriously when a democrat is in office. It wasn't a big deal during Nixon when the Pentagon Papers were heroic and it wasn't a big deal when they offered a pervert soldier a sex change operation.

 

[mak2]

You got it backwards Doc. Judging by the use of the APC and military clad FBI agents to arrest a N.G. soldier for sharing confidential information with a freaking chat room, it seems that the government takes the issue seriously when a democrat is in office. It wasn't a big deal during Nixon when the Pentagon Papers were heroic and it wasn't a big deal when they offered a pervert soldier a sex change operation.

In all honesty, I am three beers in so it might be me, but what are you talking about?