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You don’t know squat. This is right wing spin from someone who doesn’t have all the facts and hopes the facts don’t come out.Nothing on collusion? vague?Who has been indicted for being involved in Trump and Putin rigging the 2016 POTUS election and stealing it from Hillary?
I hear crickets.
Collusion with Russia is possible, Trump fans. Deal with it
Republicans think that the Mueller’s investigation has found no evidence of collusion with Russia and has accordingly shifted gears to process crimes like lying to the FBI or obstruction of justice. But this requires a lot of wishful thinking.
Consider the sentencing memos. Most of the attention has focused on the payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. But the Office of Special Counsel advised a federal judge that Michael Cohen had committed other serious crimes. He “withheld information material to the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.” He later came clean.
Mueller’s office recommended that Cohen be given some credit for this, and included this wording: Cohen “voluntarily provided the SCO with information about his own conduct and that of others on core topics under investigation by the SCO… the information he provided has been credible and consistent with other evidence obtained in the SCO’s continuing investigation.”
The “core topic” under investigation is Russian interference in the election. The “other evidence” is unknown to us at this point, but it’s safe to assume that it’s significant, because Mueller would not rely on Cohen’s word alone.
In the sentencing memo about Michael Flynn, Mueller’s office noted that he was cooperating on three criminal investigations. Three.
You know what's laughable? You actually think "core topic" means collusion with the Russian government to affect our elections! If it DID...that's how it would be described! Because it's described in such a vague manner tells me that the Mueller group has got nothing on collusion but don't want that to go public because it will reveal how much of witch hunt this has always been!
First, Trump Jr. admitted to colluding.
Then, from this evidence:
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump
in other news, a spherical earth is possible flat earthers. Deal with it.
In order to collude...you actually need to exchange something. What's ALWAYS been laughable about the Trump Tower meeting is that much was promised...AND NOTHING WAS DELIVERED! It Trump Jr. had been given information on Clinton in that meeting which did come from the Russian government you might be able to make a case for collusion! The meeting however did NOT provide anything like that! The Russian lawyer wasn't there with dirt on Clinton...she never had dirt on Clinton and didn't know a thing about what had been promised. As soon as that was apparent the meeting came to an abrupt halt.
What's interesting about the Trump Tower get together however is that the Russian lawyer met with Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS the day before the meeting and the day after the meeting. That was after she'd been given a special amnesty from the Obama State Department so that she could travel to the US. So what was REALLY going on with this meeting? How is it that a meeting that consisted of so little...was quickly leaked to the media and portrayed as "Russian collusion with the Trump Campaign" right before the election?
Trump tower meeting was just that, a meeting. Nothing necessarily needs to be delivered right then & there.Nothing on collusion? vague?Who has been indicted for being involved in Trump and Putin rigging the 2016 POTUS election and stealing it from Hillary?
I hear crickets.
Collusion with Russia is possible, Trump fans. Deal with it
Republicans think that the Mueller’s investigation has found no evidence of collusion with Russia and has accordingly shifted gears to process crimes like lying to the FBI or obstruction of justice. But this requires a lot of wishful thinking.
Consider the sentencing memos. Most of the attention has focused on the payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. But the Office of Special Counsel advised a federal judge that Michael Cohen had committed other serious crimes. He “withheld information material to the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.” He later came clean.
Mueller’s office recommended that Cohen be given some credit for this, and included this wording: Cohen “voluntarily provided the SCO with information about his own conduct and that of others on core topics under investigation by the SCO… the information he provided has been credible and consistent with other evidence obtained in the SCO’s continuing investigation.”
The “core topic” under investigation is Russian interference in the election. The “other evidence” is unknown to us at this point, but it’s safe to assume that it’s significant, because Mueller would not rely on Cohen’s word alone.
In the sentencing memo about Michael Flynn, Mueller’s office noted that he was cooperating on three criminal investigations. Three.
You know what's laughable? You actually think "core topic" means collusion with the Russian government to affect our elections! If it DID...that's how it would be described! Because it's described in such a vague manner tells me that the Mueller group has got nothing on collusion but don't want that to go public because it will reveal how much of witch hunt this has always been!
First, Trump Jr. admitted to colluding.
Then, from this evidence:
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump
in other news, a spherical earth is possible flat earthers. Deal with it.
In order to collude...you actually need to exchange something. What's ALWAYS been laughable about the Trump Tower meeting is that much was promised...AND NOTHING WAS DELIVERED! It Trump Jr. had been given information on Clinton in that meeting which did come from the Russian government you might be able to make a case for collusion! The meeting however did NOT provide anything like that! The Russian lawyer wasn't there with dirt on Clinton...she never had dirt on Clinton and didn't know a thing about what had been promised. As soon as that was apparent the meeting came to an abrupt halt.
What's interesting about the Trump Tower get together however is that the Russian lawyer met with Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS the day before the meeting and the day after the meeting. That was after she'd been given a special amnesty from the Obama State Department so that she could travel to the US. So what was REALLY going on with this meeting? How is it that a meeting that consisted of so little...was quickly leaked to the media and portrayed as "Russian collusion with the Trump Campaign" right before the election?
The IRS doesn't review backgrounds of any and all LLCs from which a person is paid, nor does the IRS concern itself with conflicts of interest.I don’t get the taxes thing.
The IRS already reviewed his taxes
Too many to choose from.you could browse them here and find one that you find interesting.Libs, list what specific Trump lies are his worst and I will respond to them.
I am asking you guys what bother YOU the most.
He is a liar, and he must be removed from office.
Which of his lies are the worst?
I will respond to the lies you deem the worst.
Trump tower meeting was just that, a meeting. Nothing necessarily needs to be delivered right then & there.Nothing on collusion? vague?Who has been indicted for being involved in Trump and Putin rigging the 2016 POTUS election and stealing it from Hillary?
I hear crickets.
Collusion with Russia is possible, Trump fans. Deal with it
Republicans think that the Mueller’s investigation has found no evidence of collusion with Russia and has accordingly shifted gears to process crimes like lying to the FBI or obstruction of justice. But this requires a lot of wishful thinking.
Consider the sentencing memos. Most of the attention has focused on the payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. But the Office of Special Counsel advised a federal judge that Michael Cohen had committed other serious crimes. He “withheld information material to the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.” He later came clean.
Mueller’s office recommended that Cohen be given some credit for this, and included this wording: Cohen “voluntarily provided the SCO with information about his own conduct and that of others on core topics under investigation by the SCO… the information he provided has been credible and consistent with other evidence obtained in the SCO’s continuing investigation.”
The “core topic” under investigation is Russian interference in the election. The “other evidence” is unknown to us at this point, but it’s safe to assume that it’s significant, because Mueller would not rely on Cohen’s word alone.
In the sentencing memo about Michael Flynn, Mueller’s office noted that he was cooperating on three criminal investigations. Three.
You know what's laughable? You actually think "core topic" means collusion with the Russian government to affect our elections! If it DID...that's how it would be described! Because it's described in such a vague manner tells me that the Mueller group has got nothing on collusion but don't want that to go public because it will reveal how much of witch hunt this has always been!
First, Trump Jr. admitted to colluding.
Then, from this evidence:
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump
in other news, a spherical earth is possible flat earthers. Deal with it.
In order to collude...you actually need to exchange something. What's ALWAYS been laughable about the Trump Tower meeting is that much was promised...AND NOTHING WAS DELIVERED! It Trump Jr. had been given information on Clinton in that meeting which did come from the Russian government you might be able to make a case for collusion! The meeting however did NOT provide anything like that! The Russian lawyer wasn't there with dirt on Clinton...she never had dirt on Clinton and didn't know a thing about what had been promised. As soon as that was apparent the meeting came to an abrupt halt.
What's interesting about the Trump Tower get together however is that the Russian lawyer met with Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS the day before the meeting and the day after the meeting. That was after she'd been given a special amnesty from the Obama State Department so that she could travel to the US. So what was REALLY going on with this meeting? How is it that a meeting that consisted of so little...was quickly leaked to the media and portrayed as "Russian collusion with the Trump Campaign" right before the election?
We know alot was delivered, such as the guccifer-2.0 dump to wikileaks, and the cyberattacks a trolling.
I'm just going to throw out some general reminders.
- There is no crime called 'collusion.' There is, however, a crime called 'conspiracy,' for which nothing tangible needs to physically change hands. For that matter, the premise can be absolute BS, and it can still be conspiracy if the "mark" believes it to be so.
- It is legal for a campaign to go out and hire someone to provide information on an opponent, even if the person hired is international, or the information comes from an international source. However, if someone comes to a campaign unsolicited and offers dirt from an international source, taking their meeting can legally be conspiracy. I know it's a really fine and often subjective line; the law can be weird like that.
- There is a thing called 'whataboutism,' in which someone is asked about something, and they respond with "Well, what about (this), or what about (that)? Why aren't we talking about (those)?" It's an old USSR trick, intended to divert the conversation or muddy the waters, but it usually means that the person who does it has no basis to argue on the case's own merits.
This is actually much simpler. According to Trump biographer, the Trump campaign is a criminal conspiracy.I'm just going to throw out some general reminders.
- There is no crime called 'collusion.' There is, however, a crime called 'conspiracy,' for which nothing tangible needs to physically change hands. For that matter, the premise can be absolute BS, and it can still be conspiracy if the "mark" believes it to be so.
- It is legal for a campaign to go out and hire someone to provide information on an opponent, even if the person hired is international, or the information comes from an international source. However, if someone comes to a campaign unsolicited and offers dirt from an international source, taking their meeting can legally be conspiracy. I know it's a really fine and often subjective line; the law can be weird like that.
- There is a thing called 'whataboutism,' in which someone is asked about something, and they respond with "Well, what about (this), or what about (that)? Why aren't we talking about (those)?" It's an old USSR trick, intended to divert the conversation or muddy the waters, but it usually means that the person who does it has no basis to argue on the case's own merits.
What I find most amusing about this is that the Clinton campaign PAID an "international" agent to compile a series of "dossiers" that were supposed to look like they came from legitimate sources in Russia and were used to smear Hillary Clinton's opponent prior to the election! That seems to be fine with folks from the left yet they are up in arms because Donald Trump Jr. took a meeting to hear about information someone had about Hillary Clinton's dealings with Russia. Someone who was not in the Russian Government. Someone who it turned out had no information about Clinton at all and further swears that she never told anyone that she had such information! So what was the purpose of the meeting? Someone went to great lengths to bait this trap and then spring it right before the election. Is it far fetched to believe that the very same people that paid to have the Steele dossiers compiled and leaked to smear Trump would have had no problem at all setting up a meeting that they KNEW the Trump camp would be hard pressed not to take (Is there anyone here who thinks Hillary wouldn't have taken a meeting to get dirt on Trump?) and then use that meeting to accuse Trump of "collusion" with Russia right before the election?
This is actually much simpler. According to Trump biographer, the Trump campaign is a criminal conspiracy.I'm just going to throw out some general reminders.
- There is no crime called 'collusion.' There is, however, a crime called 'conspiracy,' for which nothing tangible needs to physically change hands. For that matter, the premise can be absolute BS, and it can still be conspiracy if the "mark" believes it to be so.
- It is legal for a campaign to go out and hire someone to provide information on an opponent, even if the person hired is international, or the information comes from an international source. However, if someone comes to a campaign unsolicited and offers dirt from an international source, taking their meeting can legally be conspiracy. I know it's a really fine and often subjective line; the law can be weird like that.
- There is a thing called 'whataboutism,' in which someone is asked about something, and they respond with "Well, what about (this), or what about (that)? Why aren't we talking about (those)?" It's an old USSR trick, intended to divert the conversation or muddy the waters, but it usually means that the person who does it has no basis to argue on the case's own merits.
What I find most amusing about this is that the Clinton campaign PAID an "international" agent to compile a series of "dossiers" that were supposed to look like they came from legitimate sources in Russia and were used to smear Hillary Clinton's opponent prior to the election! That seems to be fine with folks from the left yet they are up in arms because Donald Trump Jr. took a meeting to hear about information someone had about Hillary Clinton's dealings with Russia. Someone who was not in the Russian Government. Someone who it turned out had no information about Clinton at all and further swears that she never told anyone that she had such information! So what was the purpose of the meeting? Someone went to great lengths to bait this trap and then spring it right before the election. Is it far fetched to believe that the very same people that paid to have the Steele dossiers compiled and leaked to smear Trump would have had no problem at all setting up a meeting that they KNEW the Trump camp would be hard pressed not to take (Is there anyone here who thinks Hillary wouldn't have taken a meeting to get dirt on Trump?) and then use that meeting to accuse Trump of "collusion" with Russia right before the election?
dont forget, the dossier was started by conservatives.
If Trump went to jail, at least he would have a lot of friends there. It would be like OLD HOME WEEK.
Trump is getting it from every direction.
State court, federal court, FBI.
Imagine what's going to happen when Democrats have subpoena power after Jan. 3rd.
