'Smothered' and 'shoved aside' in rural America

If the Marxist/Socialist/Communist LEFT is successful in dismantling the Electoral College, they will not need the "rural" voters. The very backbone of the nation will have been disenfranchised.

Many of Obama's actions, as are those of many of the liberals today, were treasonous. He should have been impeached, tried, convicted, and executed.

It won't be dismantled. Every time there is an election people have a knipshit about the electoral college. The problem is not the electoral college. The problem is that this generation doesn't know how the electoral college works. They were unhappy but had it gone their way they wouldn't have said jack.
The problem liberals have with it today is that more often than not, it saves us from being ruled over by a liberal. The EC generally goes against the liberal infested shitholes we call big cities.


I'm a liberal. The problem for the younger generation is that they didn't know what an electoral college was.
An equally ever present problem is that many think we should live in a true democracy. The United States is a democratic republic, not a democracy.

I am a conservative hawk with complete understanding that some things must be controlled by socialist principles. However, to parrot every liberal talking point generated by today's liberal 'leaders' is pure, unadulterated LUNACY! To blindly follow the principles of Marxism/Socialism/Communism is LUNACY! None of the three have ever in the history of mankind exhibited individual liberty and freedom from oppression as is available today in the Democratic Republic of the United States.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

I forget who the quote is attributed to, but there is a saying that a young emotional person can't help but be a liberal but will eventually become educated and become a conservative.

What is your age?

Democracy=mob rule. Nobody wants that. Rephrase----Nobody sane wants that. Too, that not knowing how the government functions, or more importantly, why it has to work that way is part of the problem.

Parroting anyone's talking points is lunacy. It demonstrates an inability to critically think. Liberals are supposed to be open minded but not so opened minded the brain falls out. I do hear what you are saying because I have run into that problem before. We can find conservatives doing the same thing here.

I think idealism is the culprit rather than liberalism. The part of the brain that deals with time and consequences doesn't fully grow in until much later.

I'm 47.
You're on the right path. I am 74.827....will celebrate the completion of my 75th trip around the sun on March 7th.

I posit that there are only four things one needs to do to survive: Eat, sleep, stay healthy, and work hard. If you add think independently, you thrive. One cannot think independently as a liberal.
 
It won't be dismantled. Every time there is an election people have a knipshit about the electoral college. The problem is not the electoral college. The problem is that this generation doesn't know how the electoral college works. They were unhappy but had it gone their way they wouldn't have said jack.
The problem liberals have with it today is that more often than not, it saves us from being ruled over by a liberal. The EC generally goes against the liberal infested shitholes we call big cities.


I'm a liberal. The problem for the younger generation is that they didn't know what an electoral college was.
An equally ever present problem is that many think we should live in a true democracy. The United States is a democratic republic, not a democracy.

I am a conservative hawk with complete understanding that some things must be controlled by socialist principles. However, to parrot every liberal talking point generated by today's liberal 'leaders' is pure, unadulterated LUNACY! To blindly follow the principles of Marxism/Socialism/Communism is LUNACY! None of the three have ever in the history of mankind exhibited individual liberty and freedom from oppression as is available today in the Democratic Republic of the United States.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

I forget who the quote is attributed to, but there is a saying that a young emotional person can't help but be a liberal but will eventually become educated and become a conservative.

What is your age?

Democracy=mob rule. Nobody wants that. Rephrase----Nobody sane wants that. Too, that not knowing how the government functions, or more importantly, why it has to work that way is part of the problem.

Parroting anyone's talking points is lunacy. It demonstrates an inability to critically think. Liberals are supposed to be open minded but not so opened minded the brain falls out. I do hear what you are saying because I have run into that problem before. We can find conservatives doing the same thing here.

I think idealism is the culprit rather than liberalism. The part of the brain that deals with time and consequences doesn't fully grow in until much later.

I'm 47.
You're on the right path. I am 74.827....will celebrate the completion of my 75th trip around the sun on March 7th.

I posit that there are only four things one needs to do to survive: Eat, sleep, stay healthy, and work hard. If you add think independently, you thrive. One cannot think independently as a liberal.

Sure you can. I think it's odd that conservatives a few short years ago could be drummed into fits of rage from talking heads on the radio and news shows don't recognize the same game being played in the opposite direction.
 
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You're on the right path. I am 74.827....will celebrate the completion of my 75th trip around the sun on March 7th.I posit that there are only four things one needs to do to survive: Eat, sleep, stay healthy, and work hard. If you add think independently, you thrive. One cannot think independently as a liberal.
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Or conservative.
 
small farmers are under attack from many foes....mostly large corp farms ....they are trying to make heirloom veggies illegal....heirlooms are ones you can grow from seed...your own seed

I agree. In this case it's the water supply. We should be looking at some heated debates with a shlew of propaganda this next year for the Farm Bill.
 
BUCKEYE, Iowa - "Come on! Come on! Go girls!" Annette Sweeney was on horseback, hollering at her chocolate-colored cows on a perfect Iowa morning, happy that her life is better since Donald Trump became president.



Sweeney, 60, raises Angus cows and corn on the flat, green farmland of central Iowa. Just 1 in 7 Americans live in places like this: Rural counties have 72 percent of the nation's land but a shrinking population as urban areas have ballooned in size and wealth.

In recent years, Sweeney has felt a growing "disconnect" between how people think in cities and in places like Buckeye, a town of 108. In her view, farmers were too often "shoved aside" during the presidency of Barack Obama, while environmentalists and conservationists, many of whom live nowhere near a farm, took over the national conversation.

Obama set aside millions of acres of undeveloped land as national monuments - more than any other president - preventing huge areas from being mined, logged or farmed. Obama also implemented more regulations with a significant economic impact than any president in three decades, according to the George Washington University Regulatory Studies Center. Those actions were cheered by many Americans but widely viewed in rural areas as killing jobs.

Incredibly, Sweeney said, Obama's Agriculture Department even started pushing "Meatless Mondays," an insult to Iowa's pork, beef and chicken producers. "I will eat more meat on Monday to compensate for stupid USDA recommendation abt a meatless Monday," Iowa Sen. Charles E. Grassley, R, tweeted in response. Meatless Mondays felt like a "slap in the face" to Sweeney, who has this bumper sticker on her Buick: "EAT BEEF: The West Wasn't Won on Salad."

But nothing galled Sweeney more than a regulation Obama issued in 2015 called "Waters of the United States" or WOTUS. The Environmental Protection Agency said it was aimed at keeping pollutants - including fertilizer, manure and other farm runoff - out of streams and creeks that feed the nation's waterways. Farm runoff is a leading cause of water pollution, contaminating drinking water, spawning toxic algal blooms and killing fish.

To Sweeney, WOTUS felt like the government's hands on her throat.

Was some bureaucrat now going to show up and police her puddles and tiniest ditches of water? She said that is what happened several years ago: A federal conservation official told Sweeney she had a half-acre of wetland in the middle of a 160-acre field. Wetlands are protected habitats for migrating birds and other wildlife and are important for healthy soil and water.

"Suddenly, this piece of land that we had been farming for 70 years was federally protected, and we had to stop everything," said Sweeney, who was born on the farm and raised two boys there.

In the end, Sweeney had to pay $5,000 to preserve a small parcel of wetland elsewhere so she could continue farming her own property. The experience contributed to a feeling that "we were smothered" by the federal government, Sweeney said.

'Smothered' and 'shoved aside' in rural America

This is a lengthy article and there is a Democrat farmer's views in there as well.

It's more of a story about how the world is passing by those who have chosen the more traditional life. As the speed with which our society evolves and grows is ever increasing, so to does the disconnect from traditional values and ways of seeing the world. It's time rural folks get up to speed or accept that they'll be left behind.
 
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Republicans helping farmers?

Really?

Helping them lost their land?

Helping them lose their healthcare?

Republicans love to help.

Eliminating regulation that allows big Agra business to further exploit the family farmer.
 
BUCKEYE, Iowa - "Come on! Come on! Go girls!" Annette Sweeney was on horseback, hollering at her chocolate-colored cows on a perfect Iowa morning, happy that her life is better since Donald Trump became president.



Sweeney, 60, raises Angus cows and corn on the flat, green farmland of central Iowa. Just 1 in 7 Americans live in places like this: Rural counties have 72 percent of the nation's land but a shrinking population as urban areas have ballooned in size and wealth.

In recent years, Sweeney has felt a growing "disconnect" between how people think in cities and in places like Buckeye, a town of 108. In her view, farmers were too often "shoved aside" during the presidency of Barack Obama, while environmentalists and conservationists, many of whom live nowhere near a farm, took over the national conversation.

Obama set aside millions of acres of undeveloped land as national monuments - more than any other president - preventing huge areas from being mined, logged or farmed. Obama also implemented more regulations with a significant economic impact than any president in three decades, according to the George Washington University Regulatory Studies Center. Those actions were cheered by many Americans but widely viewed in rural areas as killing jobs.

Incredibly, Sweeney said, Obama's Agriculture Department even started pushing "Meatless Mondays," an insult to Iowa's pork, beef and chicken producers. "I will eat more meat on Monday to compensate for stupid USDA recommendation abt a meatless Monday," Iowa Sen. Charles E. Grassley, R, tweeted in response. Meatless Mondays felt like a "slap in the face" to Sweeney, who has this bumper sticker on her Buick: "EAT BEEF: The West Wasn't Won on Salad."

But nothing galled Sweeney more than a regulation Obama issued in 2015 called "Waters of the United States" or WOTUS. The Environmental Protection Agency said it was aimed at keeping pollutants - including fertilizer, manure and other farm runoff - out of streams and creeks that feed the nation's waterways. Farm runoff is a leading cause of water pollution, contaminating drinking water, spawning toxic algal blooms and killing fish.

To Sweeney, WOTUS felt like the government's hands on her throat.

Was some bureaucrat now going to show up and police her puddles and tiniest ditches of water? She said that is what happened several years ago: A federal conservation official told Sweeney she had a half-acre of wetland in the middle of a 160-acre field. Wetlands are protected habitats for migrating birds and other wildlife and are important for healthy soil and water.

"Suddenly, this piece of land that we had been farming for 70 years was federally protected, and we had to stop everything," said Sweeney, who was born on the farm and raised two boys there.

In the end, Sweeney had to pay $5,000 to preserve a small parcel of wetland elsewhere so she could continue farming her own property. The experience contributed to a feeling that "we were smothered" by the federal government, Sweeney said.

'Smothered' and 'shoved aside' in rural America

This is a lengthy article and there is a Democrat farmer's views in there as well.

It's more of a story about how the world is passing by those who have chosen the more traditional life. As the speed with which our society evolves and grows is ever increasing, so to does the disconnect from traditional values and ways of seeing the world. It's time rural folks get up to speed or accept that they'll be left behind.

Some cancers also grow and evolve rapidly. Not all change is good.
 
BUCKEYE, Iowa - "Come on! Come on! Go girls!" Annette Sweeney was on horseback, hollering at her chocolate-colored cows on a perfect Iowa morning, happy that her life is better since Donald Trump became president.



Sweeney, 60, raises Angus cows and corn on the flat, green farmland of central Iowa. Just 1 in 7 Americans live in places like this: Rural counties have 72 percent of the nation's land but a shrinking population as urban areas have ballooned in size and wealth.

In recent years, Sweeney has felt a growing "disconnect" between how people think in cities and in places like Buckeye, a town of 108. In her view, farmers were too often "shoved aside" during the presidency of Barack Obama, while environmentalists and conservationists, many of whom live nowhere near a farm, took over the national conversation.

Obama set aside millions of acres of undeveloped land as national monuments - more than any other president - preventing huge areas from being mined, logged or farmed. Obama also implemented more regulations with a significant economic impact than any president in three decades, according to the George Washington University Regulatory Studies Center. Those actions were cheered by many Americans but widely viewed in rural areas as killing jobs.

Incredibly, Sweeney said, Obama's Agriculture Department even started pushing "Meatless Mondays," an insult to Iowa's pork, beef and chicken producers. "I will eat more meat on Monday to compensate for stupid USDA recommendation abt a meatless Monday," Iowa Sen. Charles E. Grassley, R, tweeted in response. Meatless Mondays felt like a "slap in the face" to Sweeney, who has this bumper sticker on her Buick: "EAT BEEF: The West Wasn't Won on Salad."

But nothing galled Sweeney more than a regulation Obama issued in 2015 called "Waters of the United States" or WOTUS. The Environmental Protection Agency said it was aimed at keeping pollutants - including fertilizer, manure and other farm runoff - out of streams and creeks that feed the nation's waterways. Farm runoff is a leading cause of water pollution, contaminating drinking water, spawning toxic algal blooms and killing fish.

To Sweeney, WOTUS felt like the government's hands on her throat.

Was some bureaucrat now going to show up and police her puddles and tiniest ditches of water? She said that is what happened several years ago: A federal conservation official told Sweeney she had a half-acre of wetland in the middle of a 160-acre field. Wetlands are protected habitats for migrating birds and other wildlife and are important for healthy soil and water.

"Suddenly, this piece of land that we had been farming for 70 years was federally protected, and we had to stop everything," said Sweeney, who was born on the farm and raised two boys there.

In the end, Sweeney had to pay $5,000 to preserve a small parcel of wetland elsewhere so she could continue farming her own property. The experience contributed to a feeling that "we were smothered" by the federal government, Sweeney said.

'Smothered' and 'shoved aside' in rural America

This is a lengthy article and there is a Democrat farmer's views in there as well.

It's more of a story about how the world is passing by those who have chosen the more traditional life. As the speed with which our society evolves and grows is ever increasing, so to does the disconnect from traditional values and ways of seeing the world. It's time rural folks get up to speed or accept that they'll be left behind.

Some cancers also grow and evolve rapidly. Not all change is good.

Improving land management is a cancer?
 
Republicans helping farmers?

Really?

Helping them lost their land?

Helping them lose their healthcare?

Republicans love to help.

And it drives you nuts that you can't convince anyone.
 
BUCKEYE, Iowa - "Come on! Come on! Go girls!" Annette Sweeney was on horseback, hollering at her chocolate-colored cows on a perfect Iowa morning, happy that her life is better since Donald Trump became president.



Sweeney, 60, raises Angus cows and corn on the flat, green farmland of central Iowa. Just 1 in 7 Americans live in places like this: Rural counties have 72 percent of the nation's land but a shrinking population as urban areas have ballooned in size and wealth.

In recent years, Sweeney has felt a growing "disconnect" between how people think in cities and in places like Buckeye, a town of 108. In her view, farmers were too often "shoved aside" during the presidency of Barack Obama, while environmentalists and conservationists, many of whom live nowhere near a farm, took over the national conversation.

Obama set aside millions of acres of undeveloped land as national monuments - more than any other president - preventing huge areas from being mined, logged or farmed. Obama also implemented more regulations with a significant economic impact than any president in three decades, according to the George Washington University Regulatory Studies Center. Those actions were cheered by many Americans but widely viewed in rural areas as killing jobs.

Incredibly, Sweeney said, Obama's Agriculture Department even started pushing "Meatless Mondays," an insult to Iowa's pork, beef and chicken producers. "I will eat more meat on Monday to compensate for stupid USDA recommendation abt a meatless Monday," Iowa Sen. Charles E. Grassley, R, tweeted in response. Meatless Mondays felt like a "slap in the face" to Sweeney, who has this bumper sticker on her Buick: "EAT BEEF: The West Wasn't Won on Salad."

But nothing galled Sweeney more than a regulation Obama issued in 2015 called "Waters of the United States" or WOTUS. The Environmental Protection Agency said it was aimed at keeping pollutants - including fertilizer, manure and other farm runoff - out of streams and creeks that feed the nation's waterways. Farm runoff is a leading cause of water pollution, contaminating drinking water, spawning toxic algal blooms and killing fish.

To Sweeney, WOTUS felt like the government's hands on her throat.

Was some bureaucrat now going to show up and police her puddles and tiniest ditches of water? She said that is what happened several years ago: A federal conservation official told Sweeney she had a half-acre of wetland in the middle of a 160-acre field. Wetlands are protected habitats for migrating birds and other wildlife and are important for healthy soil and water.

"Suddenly, this piece of land that we had been farming for 70 years was federally protected, and we had to stop everything," said Sweeney, who was born on the farm and raised two boys there.

In the end, Sweeney had to pay $5,000 to preserve a small parcel of wetland elsewhere so she could continue farming her own property. The experience contributed to a feeling that "we were smothered" by the federal government, Sweeney said.

'Smothered' and 'shoved aside' in rural America

This is a lengthy article and there is a Democrat farmer's views in there as well.

It's more of a story about how the world is passing by those who have chosen the more traditional life. As the speed with which our society evolves and grows is ever increasing, so to does the disconnect from traditional values and ways of seeing the world. It's time rural folks get up to speed or accept that they'll be left behind.

I disagree. It is arrogant to assume that people who live in rural areas are not up to "speed" or less educated and that your view is somehow far more important and correct based on where you live. I promise you there are jackasses in the city, the desert, the mountains, ocean side, island and in the country.

Different communities have different needs. There is no one size fits all. This divisive shit has to stop.
 
Urban folks need to remember that they would starve were it not for rural areas and the people that live there.

Iowa contributes very little compared to California.

If Iowa disappeared tomorrow, we'd be fine. One less welfare state.

They got a welfare check for decades -- ethanol tax credit.
 
Urban folks need to remember that they would starve were it not for rural areas and the people that live there.
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They would also freeze to death if the Heartland didn't provide the oil and gas to keep them warm when Global Warming sends those Noreasters to New York, Boston, Philadelphia and other rotting cities in Shitholia. But, they still want to put the oil and gas producers out of business, I suppose because most of them are Republicans.

They don't think ahead. Its just a question of: what would Marx do.
 
BUCKEYE, Iowa - "Come on! Come on! Go girls!" Annette Sweeney was on horseback, hollering at her chocolate-colored cows on a perfect Iowa morning, happy that her life is better since Donald Trump became president.



Sweeney, 60, raises Angus cows and corn on the flat, green farmland of central Iowa. Just 1 in 7 Americans live in places like this: Rural counties have 72 percent of the nation's land but a shrinking population as urban areas have ballooned in size and wealth.

In recent years, Sweeney has felt a growing "disconnect" between how people think in cities and in places like Buckeye, a town of 108. In her view, farmers were too often "shoved aside" during the presidency of Barack Obama, while environmentalists and conservationists, many of whom live nowhere near a farm, took over the national conversation.

Obama set aside millions of acres of undeveloped land as national monuments - more than any other president - preventing huge areas from being mined, logged or farmed. Obama also implemented more regulations with a significant economic impact than any president in three decades, according to the George Washington University Regulatory Studies Center. Those actions were cheered by many Americans but widely viewed in rural areas as killing jobs.

Incredibly, Sweeney said, Obama's Agriculture Department even started pushing "Meatless Mondays," an insult to Iowa's pork, beef and chicken producers. "I will eat more meat on Monday to compensate for stupid USDA recommendation abt a meatless Monday," Iowa Sen. Charles E. Grassley, R, tweeted in response. Meatless Mondays felt like a "slap in the face" to Sweeney, who has this bumper sticker on her Buick: "EAT BEEF: The West Wasn't Won on Salad."

But nothing galled Sweeney more than a regulation Obama issued in 2015 called "Waters of the United States" or WOTUS. The Environmental Protection Agency said it was aimed at keeping pollutants - including fertilizer, manure and other farm runoff - out of streams and creeks that feed the nation's waterways. Farm runoff is a leading cause of water pollution, contaminating drinking water, spawning toxic algal blooms and killing fish.

To Sweeney, WOTUS felt like the government's hands on her throat.

Was some bureaucrat now going to show up and police her puddles and tiniest ditches of water? She said that is what happened several years ago: A federal conservation official told Sweeney she had a half-acre of wetland in the middle of a 160-acre field. Wetlands are protected habitats for migrating birds and other wildlife and are important for healthy soil and water.

"Suddenly, this piece of land that we had been farming for 70 years was federally protected, and we had to stop everything," said Sweeney, who was born on the farm and raised two boys there.

In the end, Sweeney had to pay $5,000 to preserve a small parcel of wetland elsewhere so she could continue farming her own property. The experience contributed to a feeling that "we were smothered" by the federal government, Sweeney said.

'Smothered' and 'shoved aside' in rural America

This is a lengthy article and there is a Democrat farmer's views in there as well.

It's more of a story about how the world is passing by those who have chosen the more traditional life. As the speed with which our society evolves and grows is ever increasing, so to does the disconnect from traditional values and ways of seeing the world. It's time rural folks get up to speed or accept that they'll be left behind.

I disagree. It is arrogant to assume that people who live in rural areas are not up to "speed" or less educated and that your view is somehow far more important and correct based on where you live. I promise you there are jackasses in the city, the desert, the mountains, ocean side, island and in the country.

Different communities have different needs. There is no one size fits all. This divisive shit has to stop.

No doubt.

I was speaking to the woman in your post who is bitching about the gubmint. Since they had worked the land for 70 years they somehow don't need to conform to current laws? Farm runoff is a huge problem that has grown tremendously in the last several decades. Poor or out of date farming practices need to be updated to address these issues.

I said nothing disparaging at all. I simply said they need to get up to speed.
 
I sure like my breakfast potatoes smothered and pushed aside so that I can eat the eggs on the plate first.
 
BUCKEYE, Iowa - "Come on! Come on! Go girls!" Annette Sweeney was on horseback, hollering at her chocolate-colored cows on a perfect Iowa morning, happy that her life is better since Donald Trump became president.



Sweeney, 60, raises Angus cows and corn on the flat, green farmland of central Iowa. Just 1 in 7 Americans live in places like this: Rural counties have 72 percent of the nation's land but a shrinking population as urban areas have ballooned in size and wealth.

In recent years, Sweeney has felt a growing "disconnect" between how people think in cities and in places like Buckeye, a town of 108. In her view, farmers were too often "shoved aside" during the presidency of Barack Obama, while environmentalists and conservationists, many of whom live nowhere near a farm, took over the national conversation.

Obama set aside millions of acres of undeveloped land as national monuments - more than any other president - preventing huge areas from being mined, logged or farmed. Obama also implemented more regulations with a significant economic impact than any president in three decades, according to the George Washington University Regulatory Studies Center. Those actions were cheered by many Americans but widely viewed in rural areas as killing jobs.

Incredibly, Sweeney said, Obama's Agriculture Department even started pushing "Meatless Mondays," an insult to Iowa's pork, beef and chicken producers. "I will eat more meat on Monday to compensate for stupid USDA recommendation abt a meatless Monday," Iowa Sen. Charles E. Grassley, R, tweeted in response. Meatless Mondays felt like a "slap in the face" to Sweeney, who has this bumper sticker on her Buick: "EAT BEEF: The West Wasn't Won on Salad."

But nothing galled Sweeney more than a regulation Obama issued in 2015 called "Waters of the United States" or WOTUS. The Environmental Protection Agency said it was aimed at keeping pollutants - including fertilizer, manure and other farm runoff - out of streams and creeks that feed the nation's waterways. Farm runoff is a leading cause of water pollution, contaminating drinking water, spawning toxic algal blooms and killing fish.

To Sweeney, WOTUS felt like the government's hands on her throat.

Was some bureaucrat now going to show up and police her puddles and tiniest ditches of water? She said that is what happened several years ago: A federal conservation official told Sweeney she had a half-acre of wetland in the middle of a 160-acre field. Wetlands are protected habitats for migrating birds and other wildlife and are important for healthy soil and water.

"Suddenly, this piece of land that we had been farming for 70 years was federally protected, and we had to stop everything," said Sweeney, who was born on the farm and raised two boys there.

In the end, Sweeney had to pay $5,000 to preserve a small parcel of wetland elsewhere so she could continue farming her own property. The experience contributed to a feeling that "we were smothered" by the federal government, Sweeney said.

'Smothered' and 'shoved aside' in rural America

This is a lengthy article and there is a Democrat farmer's views in there as well.
This is my favorite part from your link:

But nothing galled Sweeney more than a regulation Obama issued in 2015 called "Waters of the United States" or WOTUS. The Environmental Protection Agency said it was aimed at keeping pollutants - including fertilizer, manure and other farm runoff - out of streams and creeks that feed the nation's waterways. Farm runoff is a leading cause of water pollution, contaminating drinking water, spawning toxic algal blooms and killing fish.

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Now get this. This is Soooooo FUKING hilarious!

Sweeney thinks all the talk about polluted water is overblown. Decades ago, when she was growing up, the snow banks sometimes turned gray because of pollution. It's far better now, she said.

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You see what I mean? Republicans from the land of tard? It's better now because of the rules and regulations she is complaining about. Get it? It was bad then, but it's better now, so the solution is to go back to then.




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