Should you even have the right to vote?

It's pretty easy, at least for those who don't get their news/current events from Murdoch or Limbaugh.

11 out of 12; I didn't know we needed to verify health insurance on our tax form (my wife files for us and our adult kids).
 
It's odd that Conservatives happily agree that voter's rights should be curtailed by imposing tests and quizzes while the seem to agree to a man that there should be no restrictions on who can own a deadly weapon.

Priorities?

Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

And now NK, the Dems have bought the black vote through entitlements, to reverse that situation.

The more things change the more they stay the same? lol
A rather cynical way to look at it, don't you think? If the motivation was to secure the Black vote, why do we see a voter turnout of less than 40%? Perhaps the actual motivation is to help provide a means of socio-economic advancement in the face of Conservative repression and preference for the wealthy.

And perhaps not, NK. :eusa_think:
I suppose it's all in the way one regards people. Some see people through a political prism, as chattel to turn out at the polls. Others see people as people who deserve a means out of the poverty and repression others have imposed on them.

But if people are only chattel for the polling place, what could motivate them to vote? The promise of a party giving advantages to the wealthy and corporate special interests, or the promise of a party to help erase repressive policies?

It really just depends on HOW one defines that word, helping. I believe in teaching a person to fish, not providing their sustenance. Nature makes no mistakes and the strong will survive, as nature intended.
 
It's odd that Conservatives happily agree that voter's rights should be curtailed by imposing tests and quizzes while the seem to agree to a man that there should be no restrictions on who can own a deadly weapon.

Priorities?

Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

And now NK, the Dems have bought the black vote through entitlements, to reverse that situation.

The more things change the more they stay the same? lol
A rather cynical way to look at it, don't you think? If the motivation was to secure the Black vote, why do we see a voter turnout of less than 40%? Perhaps the actual motivation is to help provide a means of socio-economic advancement in the face of Conservative repression and preference for the wealthy.

And perhaps not, NK. :eusa_think:
I suppose it's all in the way one regards people. Some see people through a political prism, as chattel to turn out at the polls. Others see people as people who deserve a means out of the poverty and repression others have imposed on them.

But if people are only chattel for the polling place, what could motivate them to vote? The promise of a party giving advantages to the wealthy and corporate special interests, or the promise of a party to help erase repressive policies?

It really just depends on HOW one defines that word, helping. I believe in teaching a person to fish, not providing their sustenance. Nature makes no mistakes and the strong will survive, as nature intended.

So an aged or infirm person not strong enough to fish ought to starve? That fits nicely in the platform of Callous Conservatives.
 
Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

And now NK, the Dems have bought the black vote through entitlements, to reverse that situation.

The more things change the more they stay the same? lol
A rather cynical way to look at it, don't you think? If the motivation was to secure the Black vote, why do we see a voter turnout of less than 40%? Perhaps the actual motivation is to help provide a means of socio-economic advancement in the face of Conservative repression and preference for the wealthy.

And perhaps not, NK. :eusa_think:
I suppose it's all in the way one regards people. Some see people through a political prism, as chattel to turn out at the polls. Others see people as people who deserve a means out of the poverty and repression others have imposed on them.

But if people are only chattel for the polling place, what could motivate them to vote? The promise of a party giving advantages to the wealthy and corporate special interests, or the promise of a party to help erase repressive policies?

It really just depends on HOW one defines that word, helping. I believe in teaching a person to fish, not providing their sustenance. Nature makes no mistakes and the strong will survive, as nature intended.

So an aged or infirm person not strong enough to fish ought to starve? That fits nicely in the platform of Callous Conservatives.

They ought not to be a burden upon those who are barely making a living or those who are making a lucrative one.
 
A rather cynical way to look at it, don't you think? If the motivation was to secure the Black vote, why do we see a voter turnout of less than 40%? Perhaps the actual motivation is to help provide a means of socio-economic advancement in the face of Conservative repression and preference for the wealthy.

And perhaps not, NK. :eusa_think:
I suppose it's all in the way one regards people. Some see people through a political prism, as chattel to turn out at the polls. Others see people as people who deserve a means out of the poverty and repression others have imposed on them.

But if people are only chattel for the polling place, what could motivate them to vote? The promise of a party giving advantages to the wealthy and corporate special interests, or the promise of a party to help erase repressive policies?

It really just depends on HOW one defines that word, helping. I believe in teaching a person to fish, not providing their sustenance. Nature makes no mistakes and the strong will survive, as nature intended.

So an aged or infirm person not strong enough to fish ought to starve? That fits nicely in the platform of Callous Conservatives.

They ought not to be a burden upon those who are barely making a living or those who are making a lucrative one.


A burden? What do you suggest, Solyent Green?
 
It's pretty easy, at least for those who don't get their news/current events from Murdoch or Limbaugh.

11 out of 12; I didn't know we needed to verify health insurance on our tax form (my wife files for us and our adult kids).

Or MSNBC?? :rofl:

Hey....now that this thread is derailing I am off to help the hungry by going into work at noon. What are you doing to help the hungry today? :eusa_think:
 
No you should not. Actually we don't have such right at all. We have no alternatives to vote or elect. Having no variants makes no sense of this right to vote.
The reality: stupid voters having no real candidates to choose imagining that they enjoy their sacred right.
 
Yes, I should. ;)

This is a terrific test. And it shows results in a number of ways. It surely indicates that the majority of Americans don't know what's going on.

It's astonishing that so many people got less than half right. The results say that 80% of the (voting) public doesn't have a clue, and that's pretty scary.

There are no tricks here -- just a simple test to see if you are current on your information.
This is quite a good quiz and the results are somewhat shocking.

Test your knowledge with the challenge of 12 questions, then be ready to shudder when you see how others did:

If you get less than half correct, please cancel your voter registration.


The News IQ Quiz



Jim Crow much?
Should someone who doesn't know the name of the Vice President be allowed to elect the next?
 
I think we should go by the golden rule. If you are contributing the gold, you make the rules.
That's why the special interests rule. So don't complain when the same people keep getting elected and nothing changes. The special interests care about power, not party or ideology.
 
It's odd that Conservatives happily agree that voter's rights should be curtailed by imposing tests and quizzes while the seem to agree to a man that there should be no restrictions on who can own a deadly weapon.

Priorities?

Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

The more things change the more they stay the same.
Link?
 
Hmmm. According to the demographics and answers, the correlation should be that only males fifty years or older who are college graduates should vote as they are told to by any woman.
 
It's odd that Conservatives happily agree that voter's rights should be curtailed by imposing tests and quizzes while the seem to agree to a man that there should be no restrictions on who can own a deadly weapon.

Priorities?

Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

And now NK, the Dems have bought the black vote through entitlements, to reverse that situation.

The more things change the more they stay the same? lol
A rather cynical way to look at it, don't you think? If the motivation was to secure the Black vote, why do we see a voter turnout of less than 40%? Perhaps the actual motivation is to help provide a means of socio-economic advancement in the face of Conservative repression and preference for the wealthy.
What Liberals can't seem to wrap their heads around is the fact that wealthy Conservatives want everyone to be wealthy. We make our wealth by selling goods and services to consumers. Poor people make shitty customers.
The difference of opinion here is how to make people good customers.
For the last 50 years, Liberals have been fighting their "war on poverty" to what end?
There are more people living at an ever widening level of poverty than ever before.
Throwing the money of the producers at the poor and uneducated/motivated has not and will not work.
What will, is finding a way to make the poor WANT to be rich enough to get them to get a good education, a strong work ethic and the desire to stop bearing children they can't afford to support.

Government can't motivate. They can provide education, training and structure, but they can't make anyone take advantage.
 
I think we should go by the golden rule. If you are contributing the gold, you make the rules.
That's why the special interests rule. So don't complain when the same people keep getting elected and nothing changes. The special interests care about power, not party or ideology.
I agree...

So how about giving up the freebies, and actually think about what's best for the country???




















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It's pretty easy, at least for those who don't get their news/current events from Murdoch or Limbaugh.

11 out of 12; I didn't know we needed to verify health insurance on our tax form (my wife files for us and our adult kids).

Or MSNBC?? :rofl:

Hey....now that this thread is derailing I am off to help the hungry by going into work at noon. What are you doing to help the hungry today? :eusa_think:
I have to head in to Doc's to sate the thirsty.... :D
 
It's odd that Conservatives happily agree that voter's rights should be curtailed by imposing tests and quizzes while the seem to agree to a man that there should be no restrictions on who can own a deadly weapon.

Priorities?

Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

The more things change the more they stay the same.
Link?
Here's a link regarding the Jim Crow literacy tests of the Southern States ...like those given in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama:
Think You Can Pass The Impossible Literacy Test African Americans Once Had To Take Before They Could Vote? Try Now
 
And perhaps not, NK. :eusa_think:
I suppose it's all in the way one regards people. Some see people through a political prism, as chattel to turn out at the polls. Others see people as people who deserve a means out of the poverty and repression others have imposed on them.

But if people are only chattel for the polling place, what could motivate them to vote? The promise of a party giving advantages to the wealthy and corporate special interests, or the promise of a party to help erase repressive policies?

It really just depends on HOW one defines that word, helping. I believe in teaching a person to fish, not providing their sustenance. Nature makes no mistakes and the strong will survive, as nature intended.

So an aged or infirm person not strong enough to fish ought to starve? That fits nicely in the platform of Callous Conservatives.

They ought not to be a burden upon those who are barely making a living or those who are making a lucrative one.


A burden? What do you suggest, Solyent Green?
I would suggest that families take care of their aged and infirm.
 
It's odd that Conservatives happily agree that voter's rights should be curtailed by imposing tests and quizzes while the seem to agree to a man that there should be no restrictions on who can own a deadly weapon.

Priorities?

Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

The more things change the more they stay the same.
Link?
Here's a link regarding the Jim Crow literacy tests of the Southern States ...like those given in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama:
Think You Can Pass The Impossible Literacy Test African Americans Once Had To Take Before They Could Vote? Try Now
A movie and a lying congressman's 50 year old memories?
 
I think we should go by the golden rule. If you are contributing the gold, you make the rules.
That's why the special interests rule. So don't complain when the same people keep getting elected and nothing changes. The special interests care about power, not party or ideology.
I agree...So how about giving up the freebies, and actually think about what's best for the country?
The question is, who gets the most freebies? I think you've got it wrong. The people you're blaming don't have money to influence the system. They're just getting the leftovers to keep them quiet. The ones getting the real freebies are those that can influence the system with cash and rake in billions in return, not the petty handouts you're worried about.
 
It's odd that Conservatives happily agree that voter's rights should be curtailed by imposing tests and quizzes while the seem to agree to a man that there should be no restrictions on who can own a deadly weapon.

Priorities?

Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

The more things change the more they stay the same.
Link?
Here's a link regarding the Jim Crow literacy tests of the Southern States ...like those given in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama:
Think You Can Pass The Impossible Literacy Test African Americans Once Had To Take Before They Could Vote? Try Now

Obviously lopsided.

Why not a standard 7th grade test.

Should be easy enough for 18+ year olds.


(Unless they're still in the 6th grade)
 
It's odd that Conservatives happily agree that voter's rights should be curtailed by imposing tests and quizzes while the seem to agree to a man that there should be no restrictions on who can own a deadly weapon.

Priorities?

Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

Back when Conservatives held sway in the Deep South, they used tests and quizzes to maintain their grip on power. Blacks were asked to read Chinese menus, answer questions like 'how many bubbles are in a bar of soap' and other humiliating ways to repress their vote.

And now NK, the Dems have bought the black vote through entitlements, to reverse that situation.

The more things change the more they stay the same? lol
A rather cynical way to look at it, don't you think? If the motivation was to secure the Black vote, why do we see a voter turnout of less than 40%? Perhaps the actual motivation is to help provide a means of socio-economic advancement in the face of Conservative repression and preference for the wealthy.

And perhaps not, NK. :eusa_think:
I suppose it's all in the way one regards people. Some see people through a political prism, as chattel to turn out at the polls. Others see people as people who deserve a means out of the poverty and repression others have imposed on them.

But if people are only chattel for the polling place, what could motivate them to vote? The promise of a party giving advantages to the wealthy and corporate special interests, or the promise of a party to help erase repressive policies?

It really just depends on HOW one defines that word, helping. I believe in teaching a person to fish, not providing their sustenance. Nature makes no mistakes and the strong will survive, as nature intended.
Teaching fishing techniques are all well and good and noble unless you start out by defunding the schools, segregate folks who are different away from others and provide a fishing hole stocked with puny fish incapable of providing sustenance.
 

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