SHOULD the U.S. Be a Democracy? (Y/N)

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SHOULD the U.S. Be a Democracy

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  1. Dragon
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    This is the question that Amelia should have asked in her thread, in my opinion. It gets all confused to ask whether it IS one, because of the observable corruption of democracy by corporate money. Those of us who are part of Occupy or at least agree with the movements aims recognize (and bitch about) that no, the U.S. is not a democracy -- but we think it should be one and is supposed to be one.

    So here we go. SHOULD the U.S. be a democracy?

    Now, a definition: a government is a DEMOCRACY if its decisions are made with reference to the will of the majority of the people. Democracy takes two forms:

    1) Pure or direct democracy, in which the people vote directly on laws or policies.

    2) Representative democracy or democratic republic, in which the people elect representatives who then vote on laws or make policies.
     
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    No... I like the Representative Republic we have. I just don't care for Special Interests running the show, just because they fund elections.
     
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    Did you read my OP? A "representative republic" IS a democracy.
     
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    We are a form of democracy. We democratically elect our major representatives.
     
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    No, it should not. The Constitutional Republic we enjoy is the best defender of INDIVIDUAL rights you can have. A pure Democracy is mob rule, pure and simple. Look at the history of ancient Greece, it was better then the rule of kings, but it was no where near as good as what we enjoy.
     
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    nevermind I am confused on your definitions....need coffee....
     
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    Another one who didn't read the OP, even though you friggin' quoted it. Once more:

    Now, a definition: a government is a DEMOCRACY if its decisions are made with reference to the will of the majority of the people. Democracy takes two forms:

    1) Pure or direct democracy, in which the people vote directly on laws or policies.

    2) Representative democracy or democratic republic, in which the people elect representatives who then vote on laws or make policies.

    Comprendez-vous maintenant ? I am not talking exclusively about PURE or DIRECT democracy. A democratic republic IS a democracy.
     
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    Ok... I vote for a Representative Democracy. One where Constituents vote on their representation to be their voice.

    However, my issue still stands that as long as Special Interests fund elections, we will never be anything more than a Corporatist Plutocracy.
     
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    I voted no but I should have voted yes based on what you clarified above.
     
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    We have a form of democracy that works well. for us.
    We need the Constitutional Republic to provide the checks and balances or constitution uniquely provides.

    "The critical difference lies in the fact that a Constitutional Republic has a Constitution that limits the powers of the government. It also spells out how the government is structured, creating checks on its power and balancing power between the different branches."

    Ultimately, in our government, the power is always lead back to the people and no part of the government usurps the power over another.
     
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