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Anyone under psychiatric care or prescription psychiatric meds are restricted from gun ownership. It's not just an ex-military thing. Just look at what happens to the weapons of an ordinary citizen in the backwoods of Tennessee if you are stressed, have an anxiety attack, suicidal or have PTSD.
Anyone under psychiatric care or prescription psychiatric meds are restricted from gun ownership. It's not just an ex-military thing. Just look at what happens to the weapons of an ordinary citizen in the backwoods of Tennessee if you are stressed, have an anxiety attack, suicidal or have PTSD.
Let me say this loud and clear:
That is wrong!
Only somebody who has been ruled as being mentally incompetent in a court of law looses the right to possess firearms.
You had better do some research, and not simply make things up.
Possession of a Firearm by the Mentally Ill
Yup, it requires a Judgement from a Judge to declare someone unfit to own firearms.
What happens if someone with PTSD and a gun shoots themselves because they can't cope? Does everyone just shrug their shoulders and not care?
And what happens if anybody takes a gun and shoots themselves or somebody else?
Why the separation of veterans here?
Look, if you want to make this fair and equal, then make it apply for anybody with PTSD.
Any female that has been raped or sexually assaulted, anybody who has ever been in an accident, anybody who worked long hours with little sleep. All of those are prime PTSD candidates.
I am pretty much rejecting it because I see this as yet another anti military thread.
Anyone under psychiatric care or prescription psychiatric meds are restricted from gun ownership. It's not just an ex-military thing. Just look at what happens to the weapons of an ordinary citizen in the backwoods of Tennessee if you are stressed, have an anxiety attack, suicidal or have PTSD.
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First of all I do not agree with the current administration's opinion that American Military Veterans should be suspected of engaging in domestic terrorism. I do, however, believe that Veterans who have been determined to be so psychotic that they are awarded a disability pension related to their mental disorder should never be able to legally possess or purchase a firearm unless their specific psychiatric veterans administrator signs off on each forearm.
They should be allowed to possess firearms until adjudicated mentally incompetent in accordance with due process.
Anyone under psychiatric care or prescription psychiatric meds are restricted from gun ownership. It's not just an ex-military thing. Just look at what happens to the weapons of an ordinary citizen in the backwoods of Tennessee if you are stressed, have an anxiety attack, suicidal or have PTSD.
Let me say this loud and clear:
That is wrong!
Only somebody who has been ruled as being mentally incompetent in a court of law looses the right to possess firearms.
You had better do some research, and not simply make things up.
Possession of a Firearm by the Mentally Ill
Right. Because the design purpose of an automobile is as a deadly weapon? Automobile licenses are suspended if the driver poses a public safety threat. Automobiles are registered with the state.Guns! Guns for everyone! The mentally frazzled, the disturbed, the retarded, the anxiety riddled! Guns for children! Guns for the blind! After all, we have a RIGHT to guns! Public safety be damned! The innocent shou8ld have been armed themselves so they could exchange gun fire! Guns are fun! They make you feel like Rambo! You can't play Army without guns! The more powerful, the more deadly, the better! Guns are too cool to have the least restrictions placed on them.
We should have flamethrowers and rocket launchers and shoulder fired missile launchers too! Who cares if children get killed? Who cares if someone shoots up another church or temple or theater? Who cares if someone sees a husband playfully giving his wife a nuggy and then decides this is a case of assault and opens fire? Guns! Guns for everyone!
How about a little perspective, eh? More pedestrians are struck and killed by vehicles then people are killed by firearms.
There's your perspective.
Law enforcement could be aware of stolen guns easier. The more data from a crime scene the better.Right. Because the design purpose of an automobile is as a deadly weapon? Automobile licenses are suspended if the driver poses a public safety threat. Automobiles are registered with the state.
How about a little perspective, eh? More pedestrians are struck and killed by vehicles then people are killed by firearms.
There's your perspective.
The registration doesn't appear to be making them any safer than the unregistered guns.
Anyone under psychiatric care or prescription psychiatric meds are restricted from gun ownership. It's not just an ex-military thing. Just look at what happens to the weapons of an ordinary citizen in the backwoods of Tennessee if you are stressed, have an anxiety attack, suicidal or have PTSD.
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Let me say this loud and clear:
That is wrong!
Only somebody who has been ruled as being mentally incompetent in a court of law looses the right to possess firearms.
You had better do some research, and not simply make things up.
Possession of a Firearm by the Mentally Ill
Law enforcement could be aware of stolen guns easier. The more data from a crime scene the better.Right. Because the design purpose of an automobile is as a deadly weapon? Automobile licenses are suspended if the driver poses a public safety threat. Automobiles are registered with the state.
There's your perspective.
The registration doesn't appear to be making them any safer than the unregistered guns.
The "due process" is easy if the federal government, which administers the qualifications for obtaining a mental disability related to Military service, simply issues an order that persons on PTSD mental disability pensions cannot purchase firearms. That's what the discussion is about. It's not the "how" but the "why".
Yeah right. Everybody is a little crazy and we may have lost friends and we had accidents and we saw terrible things and we all have some problems that we are usually able to straighten out without the government interfering with our 2nd Amendment rights. We aren't talking about our drunken buddies who get stoned and shoot up the hunting lodge, we are talking about Veterans who may or may not have been in combat and who admit to being so mentally impaired that we have to support them with a disability pension. They didn't lose the ability to walk or the use of an arm or a leg, they claim to have lost the ability to reason and to follow the rules of society and society has a right to be protected from people who claim to be mentally incompetent.
First of all I do not agree with the current administration's opinion that American Military Veterans should be suspected of engaging in domestic terrorism. I do, however, believe that Veterans who have been determined to be so psychotic that they are awarded a disability pension related to their mental disorder should never be able to legally possess or purchase a firearm unless their specific psychiatric veterans administrator signs off on each forearm.
The "due process" is easy if the federal government, which administers the qualifications for obtaining a mental disability related to Military service, simply issues an order that persons on PTSD mental disability pensions cannot purchase firearms. That's what the discussion is about. It's not the "how" but the "why".
If you watch the video & listen you will hear David Sarti say that he went before Judge John Gwen while at the hospital. That ended his gun rights.
I have been held at gunpoint by 7 different assholes. 3 were mentally deficient or impaired assholes & one of them pulled the trigger. The other 4 were criminal thugs. Many US soldiers haven't stared down the business end of a gun that many times. I have also seen mentally unstable shoot people because they yelled at them. So don't tell me crazy people & criminals should be allowed to have guns! As per my experience crazy people are far more likely to pull the trigger than a criminal is. If you can't control your emotions, you should not control a deadly weapon. Crazy people should not fly planes, drive cars or have guns.
Should every cop who has ever been in a firefight also lose his right to own firearms? PTSD is exactly what it says, and not just a military malfunction. How about firefighters or paramedics who despite all their efforts can't save someone?
Some people should not be allowed to own weapons, firearms or otherwise. Now define "weapon".
This is just another case of desiring to legislate punishment of the masses for the actions of the few. A majority of our legislation does exactly that.
"Individual" liberty is self-explanatory as well. Its content precludes one-size-fits all legislation.
Should every cop who has ever been in a firefight also lose his right to own firearms? PTSD is exactly what it says, and not just a military malfunction. How about firefighters or paramedics who despite all their efforts can't save someone?
Some people should not be allowed to own weapons, firearms or otherwise. Now define "weapon".
This is just another case of desiring to legislate punishment of the masses for the actions of the few. A majority of our legislation does exactly that.
"Individual" liberty is self-explanatory as well. Its content precludes one-size-fits all legislation.
Interestingly enough, my worst PTSD came from a vehicle accident. I had flashbacks from that for years afterwards. And it took me 2 years to get back onto a motorcycle, and the first time I rode I had to pull over after 5 minutes and shook like a leaf for 15 minutes.
And to this day, almost 24 years later I am often times almost a wreck, and feel that every single car driver on the road is out to run me over. But that does not make me want to get my gun and go around shooting people in cars who do stupid things that almost get me killed on the freeway.
This thread really is not about guns at all, but about persecuting veterans.
No one ever said that registering cars makes them safer. Where did you ever get such a stupid idea? What registering car does is the creation of a chain of custody, a legal notice of ownership that makes crimes committed by the operation of cars easier to investigate and prosecute. Registration does not make the car stop faster or steer more accurately. Registration could reduce harmful emissions from that car and show ownership should that car get stolen.Law enforcement could be aware of stolen guns easier. The more data from a crime scene the better.The registration doesn't appear to be making them any safer than the unregistered guns.
So since registration doesn't make cars safer now it's about having a list of guns for law enforcement. What is step one in confiscation?
I think it's "make a list."
Should every cop who has ever been in a firefight also lose his right to own firearms? PTSD is exactly what it says, and not just a military malfunction. How about firefighters or paramedics who despite all their efforts can't save someone?
Some people should not be allowed to own weapons, firearms or otherwise. Now define "weapon".
This is just another case of desiring to legislate punishment of the masses for the actions of the few. A majority of our legislation does exactly that.
"Individual" liberty is self-explanatory as well. Its content precludes one-size-fits all legislation.
Interestingly enough, my worst PTSD came from a vehicle accident. I had flashbacks from that for years afterwards. And it took me 2 years to get back onto a motorcycle, and the first time I rode I had to pull over after 5 minutes and shook like a leaf for 15 minutes.
And to this day, almost 24 years later I am often times almost a wreck, and feel that every single car driver on the road is out to run me over. But that does not make me want to get my gun and go around shooting people in cars who do stupid things that almost get me killed on the freeway.
This thread really is not about guns at all, but about persecuting veterans.
Should every cop who has ever been in a firefight also lose his right to own firearms? PTSD is exactly what it says, and not just a military malfunction. How about firefighters or paramedics who despite all their efforts can't save someone?
Some people should not be allowed to own weapons, firearms or otherwise. Now define "weapon".
This is just another case of desiring to legislate punishment of the masses for the actions of the few. A majority of our legislation does exactly that.
"Individual" liberty is self-explanatory as well. Its content precludes one-size-fits all legislation.
Interestingly enough, my worst PTSD came from a vehicle accident. I had flashbacks from that for years afterwards. And it took me 2 years to get back onto a motorcycle, and the first time I rode I had to pull over after 5 minutes and shook like a leaf for 15 minutes.
And to this day, almost 24 years later I am often times almost a wreck, and feel that every single car driver on the road is out to run me over. But that does not make me want to get my gun and go around shooting people in cars who do stupid things that almost get me killed on the freeway.
This thread really is not about guns at all, but about persecuting veterans.
More specifically veterans who receive a disability check. I think Whitehall believes they should be punished by having their guns taken away for getting a disability check.
